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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 10:50:07 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/01/what-elon-musk-told-tesla-after-the-car-maker-met-its-model-3-goal.html

On Sunday, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said the company managed to meet a self-imposed deadline to produce 5,000 Model 3 cars in a week.

The car maker had been under intense pressure to deliver on the sedan, something seen by analysts as integral to Tesla breaking into the mainstream.

Tesla has repeatedly missed production targets and failed to reach profitability. Despite those factors, the company pulled out all the stops to produce 7000 cars in total last week.

On Sunday, Musk sent an effusively worded communication to all employees, thanking them for their hard work, adding that the company became "a real car company" in the process.

CNBC obtained a copy of the email Musk sent to Tesla staffers, which can be read in full below:

Subj. 7000

Jul. 1, 12:37 PM

We did it!! What an incredible job by an amazing team. Couldnt be more proud to work with you. It is an honor.

The level of dedication and creativity was mind-blowing. We either found a way or, by will and inventiveness, created entirely new solutions that were thought impossible.

Intense in tents. Transporting entire production lines across the world in massive cargo planes. Whatever. It worked.

Not only did we factory gate over 5000 Model 3s, but we also achieved the S & X production target for a combined 7000 vehicle week!

Whats more, with the widespread productivity gains throughout Tesla and the new production lines spooling up, we are on track to reach 6k/week for Model 3 next month.

I think we just became a real car company

Thank you for your hard work and dedication,

Elon


Damn, and all the haters were saying they wouldn't. This is phenomenal news. Making me emotional enough to weep tears of joy.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 10:51:05 AM
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Let's see if he can hold onto that rate of production.
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Burgess
07/02/18 10:51:12 AM
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Okay so they built some cars.
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iHuman
07/02/18 10:51:14 AM
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Hopefully we ca get more like it and kill off coal for good before its too late.
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DeadSite
07/02/18 10:52:19 AM
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This circlejerk of Elon needs to stop tbh
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 10:53:18 AM
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DeadSite posted...
This circlejerk of Elon needs to stop tbh
The Cult of Elon is as strong as the Cult of Steve Jobs.

We all know that they worship their Lord Savior Elon.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 10:59:20 AM
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Imagine hating Elon Musk or what his companies are doing.
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Krojen
07/02/18 11:08:53 AM
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He warned all yall shorts!
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 11:25:39 AM
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Krojen posted...
He warned all yall shorts!


Shorts got bodied lmfao
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Muffinz0rz
07/02/18 11:26:29 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
Intense in tents.

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darkjedilink
07/02/18 11:33:25 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Imagine hating Elon Musk or what his companies are doing.

Like, manufacturing death traps that explode into flames if you look at them funny?
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 11:34:58 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Imagine hating Elon Musk or what his companies are doing.

Like, manufacturing death traps that explode into flames if you look at them funny?


You're dangerously close to getting tagged as "Dishonest" broseph
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lesidesi
07/02/18 11:44:01 AM
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there's a lot to admire about elon musk but there is plenty to criticize him for as well
the man never really ceases to impress me, personally
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Burgess
07/02/18 11:46:30 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Imagine hating Elon Musk or what his companies are doing.

Like, manufacturing death traps that explode into flames if you look at them funny?


You're dangerously close to getting tagged as "Dishonest" broseph


Why would he care what you tag him as since you're the only one that can see the tag.
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butthole666
07/02/18 11:50:52 AM
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iHuman posted...
Hopefully we ca get more like it and kill off coal for good before its too late.

Its been too late for about 20 years
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Burgess
07/02/18 11:51:21 AM
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butthole666 posted...
iHuman posted...
Hopefully we ca get more like it and kill off coal for good before its too late.

Its been too late for about 20 years


Coal cars.
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Were_Wyrm
07/02/18 11:53:42 AM
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What are they doing that is so radically different from other car manufacturers that they can't build cars at a reasonable pace? I thought Musk toured a few plants to see how they build cars before building his own, did he just not pay attention to anything they were doing?
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 11:53:50 AM
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butthole666 posted...
iHuman posted...
Hopefully we ca get more like it and kill off coal for good before its too late.

Its been too late for about 20 years


No it hasn't, you can stop shitposting.
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Burgess
07/02/18 11:54:13 AM
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How are they powering the car plants.
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butthole666
07/02/18 11:55:05 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
butthole666 posted...
iHuman posted...
Hopefully we ca get more like it and kill off coal for good before its too late.

Its been too late for about 20 years


No it hasn't, you can stop shitposting.

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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 12:11:18 PM
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Wait a second, how did butthole666 get off of my ignore list? Could do with less of some people's fearmongering and delusional negativity tbqh
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SK8T3R215
07/02/18 12:31:47 PM
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Is this a sustainable 5,000 that can continue going forward or a 5,000 that was done in a unsustainable way that will fall to a lower rate going forward?
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 12:32:19 PM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
Is this a sustainable 5,000 that can continue going forward or a 5,000 that was done in a unsustainable way that will fall to a lower rate going forward?


Which one do you want it to be? Have a feeling you'd love for it to be the latter tbqh
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Burgess
07/02/18 12:32:26 PM
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Are they even going to be able to sell them at this rate.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 12:34:23 PM
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Burgess posted...
Are they even going to be able to sell them at this rate.


They are swamped with demand, so yes.
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TheRealDill2000
07/02/18 12:36:52 PM
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butthole666 posted...
iHuman posted...
Hopefully we ca get more like it and kill off coal for good before its too late.

Its been too late for about 20 years

Why kill coal now? Just as the focus has shifted to clean coal...
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 12:39:18 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
butthole666 posted...
iHuman posted...
Hopefully we ca get more like it and kill off coal for good before its too late.

Its been too late for about 20 years

Why kill coal now? Just as the focus has shifted to clean coal...


How can coal be clean? Genuine question, haven't researched clean coal before. I drive a 2004 Honda Accord and I also have a 2013 Nissan Leaf so I've only really paid attention to electric vehicles.
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Doom_Art
07/02/18 12:42:00 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
DeadSite posted...
This circlejerk of Elon needs to stop tbh
The Cult of Elon is as strong as the Cult of Steve Jobs.

We all know that they worship their Lord Savior Elon.

I think the circlejerk over him is a bit annoying but I don't get the people who hate him.

Like oh wow this guy wants to make affordable electric cars. Fuck him, right?
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 12:43:43 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
DeadSite posted...
This circlejerk of Elon needs to stop tbh
The Cult of Elon is as strong as the Cult of Steve Jobs.

We all know that they worship their Lord Savior Elon.

I think the circlejerk over him is a bit annoying but I don't get the people who hate him.

Like oh wow this guy wants to make affordable electric cars. Fuck him, right?


The hate is a part of a well-funded character assassination attempt. Big oil is funding massive amounts of propaganda on both the left and the right.

The left hates him because of exaggerated and often made-up claims about workplace abuses and safety violations. The right hates him because of profitability and the threat to the automotive status quo which has made a lot of people wealthy.
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SK8T3R215
07/02/18 12:43:50 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
SK8T3R215 posted...
Is this a sustainable 5,000 that can continue going forward or a 5,000 that was done in a unsustainable way that will fall to a lower rate going forward?


Which one do you want it to be? Have a feeling you'd love for it to be the latter tbqh


Well which one is it? Just going crazy with hours and ramping machines past their recommended capacity to hit the target that isn't going to be sustained going forward doesn't really help much but if they are able to produce them at this pace and increase it then it's more meaningful.

They also missed their total delivery target by 10K for the quarter which is concerning since that kinda says this was a one-time burst just to hit that target.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 2:34:17 PM
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I actually like his cars, I hate the auto-pilot feature, how it's implemented, and the vast number of people it has killed in the short time.

The "Scarifices for Auto-Pilot" to get better is complete and utter BS and he used the public as a giant Beta Test group.

The work / life balance and potential work place incidents are also atrocious and needs some serious investigation and regulation from OSHA and a few other government Bureaus.

His Tony Stark-ish Arrogant Rich Arse attitude is a hit or miss depending on what he says and what day.

So he's really a mixed bag in my book.

BTW, I loved what SpaceX has accomplished so far.

His usage of Solar City is complete and utter Hot Flaming Dumpster Fire in action.

The way it was handled is a complete joke.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 2:37:27 PM
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Lots of bullshit in that post, KamenRiderBlade.

1) Auto-pilot repeatedly warns you to keep your hands on the wheel at all times since it's in beta.

2) Those are all exaggerated, often times by people who were not good enough to hold a job there or people who were just there for corporate espionage. You definitely work harder at those companies than at other companies, but it is all voluntary.

3) He acquired Solar City for the energy storage technology, which is absolutely vital to the future of Tesla and basically every other company that does anything with energy storage.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 2:37:42 PM
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Spooking posted...
Another home run for Mr. Musk. I sure do love capitalism!


Amen brother
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prince_leo
07/02/18 2:38:18 PM
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Do people really hate him though? I mostly see people disagreeing with him on the whole Union/labour stuff
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 2:38:58 PM
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prince_leo posted...
Do people really hate him though? I mostly see people disagreeing with him on the whole Union/labour stuff


i mean the amount of vitriol published against him in the last year has been substantial
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MarqueeSeries
07/02/18 2:39:20 PM
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I'm curious about his means of production as well

How many hours a week do the workers pull in these factories?
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CruelBuffalo
07/02/18 2:43:15 PM
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His cult is annoying and his haters are annoying.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 3:50:24 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
1) Auto-pilot repeatedly warns you to keep your hands on the wheel at all times since it's in beta.
But the name "Auto-Pilot" makes average owners thinks it's far more capable than it really is. The average consumer won't know what Aircraft "Auto-Pilot" is and how it's analogous to vehicular "Auto-Pilot".

Being a "Beta" and having a warning label doesn't excuse the "Deaths that happened" while Auto-Pilot was engaged.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-autopilot-lawsuit/tesla-settles-class-action-lawsuit-over-dangerous-autopilot-system-idUSKCN1IQ1SH

The fact that they had to settle speaks volumes.

2) Those are all exaggerated, often times by people who were not good enough to hold a job there or people who were just there for corporate espionage. You definitely work harder at those companies than at other companies, but it is all voluntary.
That's a bunch of "Company Said versus Ex-Employee Said". I'm not foolish enough to take a company at it's word. You'd best not take it either.

3) He acquired Solar City for the energy storage technology, which is absolutely vital to the future of Tesla and basically every other company that does anything with energy storage.


https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/06/23/more-bad-news-for-tesla-solar.aspx
https://insideevs.com/tesla-solar-layoffs-home-depot-deals-ends/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimcollins/2018/06/22/teslas-constant-turmoil-cant-hide-the-fact-that-solarcity-is-dying/#47fb352648ec

He acquired the wrong "Solar Panel & Energy Storage Company" and most likely acquired it to save his Cousin from financial ruin instead of buying a more solid Company that is in the "Solar Field". It's complete corruption & nepotism that is hurting Tesla stock. And the "Solar City" acquisition is a fiasco for Tesla. Especially when they don't need more controversy.

And "Solar City" doesn't have the best Panel efficiency, or reliability, or most advanced tech for Solar Panels, or sales staff, or economies of scale.

"Sun Power" has the best commercially sold retail efficiency & reliability as well as most advanced tech that is sold to regular folks.
They aren't the cheapest or have the best sales staff though.
However, they're the company to watch out for in the Solar Panel Market.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 3:59:02 PM
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What a pile of bullshit.

When you turn on the Autopilot system, you get verbal cues that (loudly) tell you to keep your hands on the steering wheel if you remove them. And when you buy the car, they tell you that as well. It is literally impossible to not know ahead of time.

They settle these cases because it's cheaper than losing time and energy in court. They also settled because:

Tesla said in a statement it wanted to do right by its customers and, as part of the proposed deal, agreed to compensate car owners who had purchased the 2.0 version of Autopilot and had to wait longer than we expected for the driving features to become active.

And why in the fuck are you going to trust random disgruntled employees or publishings rather than the company itself, when the company gets hundreds of thousands of resumes and people who work there can literally work at any other company in the world due to the prestige of having that on your resume? Is it because those specific people's claims are good for your narrative?

Elon didn't need to acquire SolarCity in order to save his cousin if he wanted to save his cousin, dude. He acquired it because the two companies worked really closely together anyway and it made sense to consolidate. SpaceX and Tesla also work closely together.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 4:11:34 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
When you turn on the Autopilot system, you get verbal cues that (loudly) tell you to keep your hands on the steering wheel if you remove them. And when you buy the car, they tell you that as well. It is literally impossible to not know ahead of time.
That doesn't stop people from doing stupid shit with their "Auto Pilot".
Let me ask you, how many times do you hit "OK" on the EULA every time you install a piece of software? The VAST majority of people outright ignore it along with any warnings that may come with it.
They literally just click "OK" to get it to shut up and get to work.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/28/tesla-owner-turned-cars-autopilot-sat-passenger-seat-travelling/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/29/17298750/tesla-autopilot-british-driver-charged-driving-sleeping

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/01/tesla-driver-killed-autopilot-self-driving-car-harry-potter

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-autopilot-crash-utah-fire-truck-driver-elon-musk-bemoans-attention/
http://www.newsweek.com/tesla-model-s-crash-car-autopilot-sped-just-utah-firetruck-944251

And of course, it's never "Tesla's Fault" in all the numerous accidents, deaths, injuries related to "Auto Pilot".
It's always the drivers fault, right!

And why in the fuck are you going to trust random disgruntled employees or publishings rather than the company itself, when the company gets hundreds of thousands of resumes and people who work there can literally work at any other company in the world due to the prestige of having that on your resume? Is it because those specific people's claims are good for your narrative?
Or is it because not all large companies are cracked up to be what they claim to be? Maybe you don't have enough life experience working for a large multi-national corporation, but I do. Things aren't always how they present themselves on the outside. Ask anybody who used to work for one of these large multi-national corporations. Part of growing up is experiencing the reality behind the doors. I used to be just like you, blindly believe the Press Releases and PR teams. Then I went behind the curtain and became realistically cynical and jaded about how things work.

Elon didn't need to acquire SolarCity in order to save his cousin if he wanted to save his cousin, dude. He acquired it because the two companies worked really closely together anyway and it made sense to consolidate. SpaceX and Tesla also work closely together.
And according to most Wall Street analysts, he could've bought any number of "OTHER Solar Companies" that had better situations than his cousins. Most people are crying Nepotism, and it's starting to ring true. He could've chosen any other "Solar Panel company" to work with, it didn't have to be the one that his Cousin literally owned.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 4:13:17 PM
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sorry, not gonna bother with your word salad, brother
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 4:14:56 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
sorry, not gonna bother with your word salad, brother
Then we have nothing to discuss.

You're a loyal cult member of Elon.

I'm not 100% behind him.
I like some of his stuff, and I'll give credit where it's due.

But as it stands, he's "Hit or Miss" in my books and not some "Golden Boy" as you would paint him out to be.
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marthsheretoo
07/02/18 4:15:01 PM
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The guy asked every one of his employees to volunteer in the factories after hours. My girlfriend's brother is a higher up at Tesla and when his workday was over, he went down to the factory and spent all night there. Sounded hellish tbh.
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50Blessings
07/02/18 4:19:16 PM
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I feel bad for his workers tbqh
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 4:22:42 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
sorry, not gonna bother with your word salad, brother
Then we have nothing to discuss.

You're a loyal cult member of Elon.

I'm not 100% behind him.
I like some of his stuff, and I'll give credit where it's due.

But as it stands, he's "Hit or Miss" in my books and not some "Golden Boy" as you would paint him out to be.


it's not like that at all. you're just being entirely unreasonable, assuming shit about my experience and basically arguing exaggerated bullshit that you later contradict when trying again. (you initially argued that people were dying because they didn't know how autopilot is supposed to work, now you're arguing that they knew how it is supposed to work but just didn't care. that's dishonest)

so that shows that you're not reasonable.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 4:23:17 PM
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50Blessings posted...
I feel bad for his workers tbqh


having Tesla or SpaceX on your resume opens up basically any door you want, dude. don't feel bad for them, they definitely work hard but the vast majority of them are happy to do so because they believe in the mission. the rest get burned out and leave for a cushy government job in some back office because they're too lazy to do real work.

if someone hates it at Tesla or SpaceX, all they need to do is update their LinkedIn profile and say they're searching for something new and a deluge of recruiters will be offering them access to basically any brand name they want
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 4:27:06 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
it's not like that at all. you're just being entirely unreasonable, assuming shit about my experience and basically arguing exaggerated bullshit that you later contradict when trying again. (you initially argued that people were dying because they didn't know how autopilot is supposed to work, now you're arguing that they knew how it is supposed to work but just didn't care. that's dishonest)

so that shows that you're not reasonable.
Some of the victims literally don't know how Auto-Pilot is supposed to work, some other victims are willfully ignoring it and treating it as some magic device that does more than it really is supposed to. There are plenty of cases already for either situation that both turns out to be true on several cases each. All you have to do is read each news article / case report and see for yourself.

Either way, Beta Testing with their "Lives on the line should something go wrong" isn't something I'm comfortable with and having the lives of either the user or other people at large isn't cool IMO.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 4:33:07 PM
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it literally verbally and visually warns you to put your hands back on the steering wheel if you take them off

and when you buy the car they literally give you a schpiel about how it's in beta, how you can't just go to sleep while driving, etc

the only way i could see someone legitimately not knowing is if they are using their friend's car and turn on the autopilot on their own and get in an accident before any of the warnings go off
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