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IHeartRadiation 07/02/18 4:34:00 PM #51: |
This topic is reeks of boring.
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darkjedilink 07/02/18 4:37:04 PM #52: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Doom_Art posted...KamenRiderBlade posted...DeadSite posted...This circlejerk of Elon needs to stop tbhThe Cult of Elon is as strong as the Cult of Steve Jobs. What 'profitability?' --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 4:44:04 PM #53: |
darkjedilink posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...Doom_Art posted...KamenRiderBlade posted...DeadSite posted...This circlejerk of Elon needs to stop tbhThe Cult of Elon is as strong as the Cult of Steve Jobs. That the shareholders are being taken along for a ride and that it's all a bankrupt scam that will collapse due to a lack of profit. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 4:46:11 PM #54: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
it literally verbally and visually warns you to put your hands back on the steering wheel if you take them offHave you not been reading every case of Tesla Auto-Pilot related death? It's called: people will be either "Stupid" about it, or "Willfully Ignorant" about it. In one ear, out the other. You can give all the long lectures that you want, the new owner will LITERALLY forget it the next day and proceed to do what they want to do. https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/29/17298750/tesla-autopilot-british-driver-charged-driving-sleeping Bhavesh Patel was spotted by a fellow driver sitting in the passenger seat while his Autopilot was engaged on the M1 near Hemel Hempstead on May 21st, 2017. The Hertfordshire Police note that the car was set to drive at 40 MPH, and that Patel had left the steering wheel and controls unattended, and that there was heavy traffic on the road at the time of the incident. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/01/tesla-driver-killed-autopilot-self-driving-car-harry-potter The Tesla driver killed in the first known fatal crash involving a self-driving car may have been watching a Harry Potter movie at the time of the collision in Florida, according to a truck driver involved in the crash. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-autopilot-crash-utah-fire-truck-driver-elon-musk-bemoans-attention/ South Jordan police said the Tesla Model S was going 60 mph when it slammed into the back of a fire truck stopped at a red light. The car appeared not to brake before impact, police said. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 4:46:44 PM #55: |
literally spewing more diarrhea without actually addressing the points I'm making
wtf bro are you that bored at work or something? --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 4:47:34 PM #56: |
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-autopilot-crash-utah-fire-truck-driver-elon-musk-bemoans-attention/
In April, Musk was asked by "CBS This Morning" co-host Gayle King, "what's the purpose of having autopilot if you still have to put your hands on the wheel?"This is what your "AVERAGE PERSON" thinks when they hear of "Auto-Pilot". And remember, most of these "Rich Owners" will literally have the warning go in 1 ear, out the other. They'll tune out any warning like it's a typical EULA you find on a App install or click past it like it's a nuisance. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragon239 07/02/18 4:49:11 PM #57: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
the rest get burned out and leave for a cushy government job in some back office because they're too lazy to do real work. Huh. Aren't you a programmer, or something? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 07/02/18 4:49:24 PM #58: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
The fact that they had to settle speaks volumes. Nobody has to settle, they choose to do so. The fact they did so doesn't speak volumes about them. Just like the fact that people suing him agreed to settle doesn't speak volumes about them. Some of the victims literally don't know how Auto-Pilot is supposed to work, some other victims are willfully ignoring it and treating it as some magic device that does more than it really is supposed to. If people are putting control of their vehicles into machines they haven't read the basic instructions for, they are idiots, and dangerous drivers, and should have their driving licence revoked. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 4:49:36 PM #59: |
Dragon239 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...the rest get burned out and leave for a cushy government job in some back office because they're too lazy to do real work. haw haw haw --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 4:54:05 PM #60: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
literally spewing more diarrhea without actually addressing the points I'm makingI did address it, you're just not bothering to read & understand it. You think that many adults would read all warning labels and follow it perfectly. That's not how reality works. Most adults, they literally will read it once, and "In one ear, out the other". You just think the "I gave you all the warnings" and that should clear my company of any wrong doing and everything should be honky dory. The reality is that people are still dying in large numbers for given how short of a life "Auto Pilot" has been in existence. The only solution to it is to have systems to literally observe the driver and verify if they are paying attention. That means more than just steering wheel grab sensors. You need Visual Observation, IR observation, weight sensors, sensors to detect if the person is awake. Sensors to actually SEE if the hands are on the wheels instead of just relying on pressure pads or magnetic field sensors in the steering wheels. There is a whole host of technologies he can literally implement. But that would cost a lot of $ to do that to ensure human driver proper compliance. If the humans aren't compliant, the computer must find a way to pull onto the shoulder, stop the vehicle, and find a way to alert the driver repeatedly until they wake back up or get back to their senses and drive as designed. Otherwise, these fatalities will continue. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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electricbugs2 07/02/18 4:55:31 PM #61: |
Imagine actually buying a Tesla, smh.
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 4:55:35 PM #62: |
JE19426 posted...
If people are putting control of their vehicles into machines they haven't read the basic instructions for, they are idiots, and dangerous drivers, and should have their driving licence revoked. https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/29/17298750/tesla-autopilot-british-driver-charged-driving-sleeping You mean like this jack ass who got caught on Video? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 07/02/18 4:58:34 PM #63: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/29/17298750/tesla-autopilot-british-driver-charged-driving-sleeping Yeah. An 18 month revocation seems a little lenient. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 5:00:29 PM #64: |
JE19426 posted...
Yeah. An 18 month revocation seems a little lenient.I agree, they need to reverse the 1 and 8 on how many months revocation. That would be a more apt punishment given how dangerous of a person he is behind the wheels of a Tesla. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 07/02/18 5:04:14 PM #65: |
Whoa Elon finally met a production goal even though it took two years of people getting on his ass for it to happen
Haters get btfo! Point out something else he failed to deliver on and get ready to get btfo again years later, dummies! --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fuparulez 07/02/18 5:04:55 PM #66: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Imagine hating Elon Musk or what his companies are doing. Sponging taxpayer dollars? Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. --- It's the fat upper kitty area, and if you got one I wanna marry ya! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lordgold666 07/02/18 5:05:04 PM #67: |
The real question is are they all going to be bought or collect space in a lot for the next several decades?
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 5:07:03 PM #68: |
Lordgold666 posted...
The real question is are they all going to be bought or collect space in a lot for the next several decades?I have no question that they're going to be bought. "The Cult of Elon Musk" is as strong as the "Cult of Steve Jobs" His product will literally fly off the Show Floor like Hot Cakes. You don't get 500,000 pre-orders on a expensive unproven EV without having a strong "Cult Following". --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryangrad 07/02/18 5:07:16 PM #69: |
I feel like your entire argument is pure garbage for the simple fact that you're claiming that even though the driver has been repeatedly warned and lectured not do something, they do it anyway and it's somehow Tesla's fault.
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 5:08:42 PM #70: |
Ryangrad posted...
I feel like your entire argument is pure garbage for the simple fact that you're claiming that even though the driver has been repeatedly warned and lectured not do something, they do it anyway and it's somehow Tesla's fault.Or the system can have multiple internal sensors to monitor the driver and literally pull the vehicle over onto the shoulder when the driver isn't complying with their part of the responsibility. But no, a warning message each time is all that is needed. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 5:18:06 PM #71: |
MacadamianNut3 posted...
Whoa Elon finally met a production goal even though it took two years of people getting on his ass for it to happen Guaranteed you wouldn't last at SpaceX or Tesla, but you should try it out anyway so you can see what kind of work they're doing and why it's so complex. It's all revolutionary. Nothing like it on the planet. Completely uncharted territory. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryangrad 07/02/18 5:18:57 PM #72: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
But no, a warning message each time is all that is needed. Yes. Being told not to do it. Then being earned when you are doing it is sufficient. The fact that a few people don't listen is 100% the fault of the driver. The fact that they ignore warnings makes the driver a worse person. Not the company. And you mentioned a vast number of people killed by autopilot. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_autonomous_car_fatalities Are there more deaths than the 3 listed here attributed to Tesla autopilot? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Burgess 07/02/18 5:19:00 PM #73: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
MacadamianNut3 posted...Whoa Elon finally met a production goal even though it took two years of people getting on his ass for it to happen It's building a car. --- Burgess [Z?] ...follow the Mod that failed. "All that typing made me have to crap."~Dark Magic Vixen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 5:22:19 PM #74: |
Burgess posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...MacadamianNut3 posted...Whoa Elon finally met a production goal even though it took two years of people getting on his ass for it to happen The automotive and aerospace industries are amongst the most challenging, especially when you're a brand new car company. (Tesla hasn't even been around 20 years, whereas the giants have been around for closer to 75-100 by this point). There's a shit ton of challenging and interesting and brand new work to be done in electric autonomous vehicles and space travel. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 07/02/18 5:26:18 PM #75: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
darkjedilink posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...Doom_Art posted...KamenRiderBlade posted...DeadSite posted...This circlejerk of Elon needs to stop tbhThe Cult of Elon is as strong as the Cult of Steve Jobs. They are, because they aren't profiting. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Burgess 07/02/18 5:27:08 PM #76: |
darkjedilink posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...darkjedilink posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...Doom_Art posted...KamenRiderBlade posted...DeadSite posted...This circlejerk of Elon needs to stop tbhThe Cult of Elon is as strong as the Cult of Steve Jobs. Quick let's build stupid flame throwers. --- Burgess [Z?] ...follow the Mod that failed. "All that typing made me have to crap."~Dark Magic Vixen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 5:30:05 PM #77: |
darkjedilink posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...darkjedilink posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...Doom_Art posted...KamenRiderBlade posted...DeadSite posted...This circlejerk of Elon needs to stop tbhThe Cult of Elon is as strong as the Cult of Steve Jobs. lmao keep cranking my child --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 5:30:42 PM #78: |
Burgess posted...
Quick let's build stupid flame throwers. They made $10 million in seed funding because of that. It was awesome. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 07/02/18 5:33:42 PM #79: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Guaranteed you wouldn't last at SpaceX or Tesla This shit talking would be more effective if you took a different route because I have both more degrees in CS and overall more experience in it than you, but Elon shills have never proven themselves to be that sharp But yeah anyway it's guaranteed I wouldn't last at Tesla because I don't want to work for some lamer version of Jeff Bezos who can barely run a car company. Fortunately a PhD in a tech field gives you a ton of options, so I have better things to than to humor a snake oil salesman I hope this message didn't invite a "if you have better things to do why are you posting here" while I'm strutting a rock solid 10 AMP :( --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 5:35:05 PM #80: |
Ryangrad posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_autonomous_car_fatalities https://twitter.com/Shinracapital/status/1007967952308760577 The other incidents requires investigations as to the cause of the accidents. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lesidesi 07/02/18 5:37:52 PM #81: |
To be fair Tesla is far from profitable
Also to be fair, shorting tesla thus far has been an expensive lesson --- If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 5:50:37 PM #82: |
MacadamianNut3 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...Guaranteed you wouldn't last at SpaceX or Tesla why so defensive? LMAO Let me teach you something. If you told me that you're smarter than me, it wouldn't bother me one iota. But what if I'm smarter than you? All the evidence shows that you'd be trembling in your boots. I'm not saying I'm smarter than you, I just wanted that thought to cross your mind so that you could see the repulsive feelings you feel when you consider the possibility. Maybe you are overly confident in yourself and maybe that shuts you off from learning new things. The truth is that neither of us is smarter than the other - we just know different amounts of different things, and we could both learn from the other. I was joking about you not being able to survive at SpaceX or Tesla, but I totally meant that you should work there if you have a chance to do so. It'll show you that it isn't the credentials or the length of experience that matter. It's the quality of the experience. Having SpaceX on my resume for even just a bit opened up all kinds of doors and taught me a shit ton. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryangrad 07/02/18 5:51:59 PM #83: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Ryangrad posted...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_autonomous_car_fatalities So, maybe don't attribute them to autopilot without evidence of that being the case? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 5:52:28 PM #84: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Having SpaceX on my resume for even just a bit opened up all kinds of doors and taught me a shit ton.If SpaceX is "Soo Great", then why aren't you still there? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 07/02/18 5:53:04 PM #85: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
why so defensive? LMAO It's called addressing a point, champ --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 5:56:20 PM #86: |
Ryangrad posted...
So, maybe don't attribute them to autopilot without evidence of that being the case?Fair enough. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 5:57:21 PM #87: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...Having SpaceX on my resume for even just a bit opened up all kinds of doors and taught me a shit ton.If SpaceX is "Soo Great", then why aren't you still there? Because I burned out while juggling SpaceX and full-time college. I was still a full-time student at the time which I don't advise doing if you're going to work at one of those companies. So I moved back to Chicago to be near friends and family while I finished off college and enjoyed a very cushy job elsewhere. I had a full-time offer from SolarCity (on a team that is now at Tesla) as well but I didn't take it since I wanted a nice opportunity in Chicago more. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 5:58:36 PM #88: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Because I burned out while juggling SpaceX and full-time college. I was still a full-time student at the time which I don't advise doing if you're going to work at one of those companies. So I moved back to Chicago to be near friends and family while I finished off college and enjoyed a very cushy job elsewhere.Couldn't you have "Paused" your time at "College" to do SpaceX? Wasn't that your opportunity to "Change the World"? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 5:59:22 PM #89: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...Because I burned out while juggling SpaceX and full-time college. I was still a full-time student at the time which I don't advise doing if you're going to work at one of those companies. So I moved back to Chicago to be near friends and family while I finished off college and enjoyed a very cushy job elsewhere.Couldn't you have "Paused" your time at "College" to do SpaceX? Yes, but I didn't want to do that because I wanted to be done with college. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lesidesi 07/02/18 6:00:38 PM #90: |
Why would he lie about that
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 6:02:32 PM #91: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Yes, but I didn't want to do that because I wanted to be done with college.Are you done with College now? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 6:04:00 PM #92: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...Yes, but I didn't want to do that because I wanted to be done with college.Are you done with College now? Yup! I was accepted into the graduate program at both of the colleges I'm most interested in (both have an online variant of their program so I could do it without quitting my job) but I've deferred signing up for classes for the last year and I might defer again lol. Not sure if I actually give a damn about doing a master's or not. If I do it I might end up like @MacadamianNut3 so idk if it's worth it :P --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 07/02/18 6:07:27 PM #93: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Maybe you are overly confident in yourself and maybe that shuts you off from learning new things Do you not know what a PhD is. Who the fuck would try to (and inevitably fail at) earning a PhD just so they could do research and learn new things if they wanted to shut themselves off from learning new things Don't interpret my posts towards you as arrogance. More like addressing a shitposter who got tired of his religious gimmick and now keeps Elon's dick in his mouth 24/7 --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lesidesi 07/02/18 6:09:23 PM #94: |
I know a number of PhDs who were unsuccessful in industry because they were wrapped up in theory and basically unwilling to learn how the "real world" works
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 6:09:31 PM #95: |
MacadamianNut3 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...Maybe you are overly confident in yourself and maybe that shuts you off from learning new things It's no secret that PhDs get arrogant because they think their useless degree actually means more than it does. Let's not pretend that PhDs are the paragon of interest in learning just because they got a PhD lol. Cry moar bro, your tears are delicious. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 07/02/18 6:10:20 PM #96: |
MacadamianNut3 posted...
now keeps Elon's dick in his mouth 24/7Hey, that position is filled by Amber Heard. I'm sure Elon doesn't swing that way. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 6:11:54 PM #97: |
The best way to solve this beef would be to do some competitive programming so we can see who writes cleaner and more performant code. And who builds shit that's actually cool.
@MacadamianNut3 What say you? Surely your PhD wasn't just reading books and you wrote some code. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 6:12:15 PM #98: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
MacadamianNut3 posted...now keeps Elon's dick in his mouth 24/7Hey, that position is filled by Amber Heard. What a lucky woman --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 07/02/18 6:13:13 PM #99: |
lesidesi posted...
I know a number of PhDs who were unsuccessful in industry because they were wrapped up in theory and basically unwilling to learn how the "real world" works Same. I also know a good number of PhDs who jump jobs like it's going out of style because one minor thing at a company doesn't suit them That hasn't applied to me yet tho so..... --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 07/02/18 6:17:13 PM #100: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
What say you? Surely your PhD wasn't just reading books and you wrote some code. I say I have no interest in entertaining this, easy as that. I'm not even going to bother linking my Github for you or any papers I've written. What a twist Yes a PhD in CS includes reading books and writing code among other things. If you have any other questions, just shoot or use Google.com --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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