Board 8 > Blade Mafia 6: I'm really the third strongest cow! I'll destroy moo now!

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i didn't withdraw anything

i just regretted getting involved

and then i got distracted elsewhere

the records exist corrik but its on mafia board january i think

that's all i can give you because i don't want to get involved in this role stuff

chris, if by any chance you're still around:

what time do you go to work tomorrow, and are you able to get on beforehand? and what timezone are you in?
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Jesus 24 hour day? So I probably will wake up like an hour before deadline and have to catch up fast :/

I'm going to be up late watching the World Cup too... bah
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I too find it pretty difficult to believe the N0 part of Chris' claim

though that technically has no bearing on his n2 claim, so I would like to see Leo's response either way

that said, Chris is acting wildly different from his previous game, which is good
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wait what?

is someone messing with time?

...
Moo????
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death, i take it you're caught up now or are catching up now?

if so, can you offer some more input on the day so far?

i'd like some more takes on my line of thought regarding the night kills so far and how that relates to chris' claim here.
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actually I woke up like fifteen minutes ago
but I caught the big lines and felt like focusing on Chris' posts first

honestly my first thought after seeing Han flip was that scum used their poison on Colzach, not red
but it seems to be the second way around now
IGCD probably did save Colzach

which post has your thoughts?
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actually i'm going to go through that again because i never quite finished the train of thought, i think. and it's, in my mind, a pretty big deal and i need more clarity on it.

so, night 1: scare dead, claimed by zach's axe cop. zyzxyxwhatever, occum's razor says it's scare because she was a claimed jinjo. FD, who hid behind han and died for it.

night 2: red, who if we go by chris' claim, was poisoned. and the bodyguard whose name is escaping me, who chris claims was protecting zach, who was also targetted by leo

so, in the scenario chris sets up: zach, claimed axe cop was allowed to live night 1. okay, maybe they thought he would hit town and help them out. sure. red is poisoned. zach shoots scare, scare eats zyzyz, fd dies to hiding behind scum...where's the scum kill? we had previously assumed zach was targetted and protected. but the presence of a bodyguard changes this assumption. do we believe there are two protection roles? along with all the other powers claimed so far?

so, missing kill night 1 that's hard to explain in this scenario.

the other scenario is, zach was poisoned night 1. bodyguard absorbed this, which causes him to die night 2, leaving red as the scum kill. throwing chris' claim into question again

but the more i think about this now the more questions it raises and the less sure i am of this. one of them being, how does bodyguard typically interact with poison?
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htaeD posted...

actually I woke up like fifteen minutes ago
but I caught the big lines and felt like focusing on Chris' posts first

honestly my first thought after seeing Han flip was that scum used their poison on Colzach, not red
but it seems to be the second way around now
IGCD probably did save Colzach

which post has your thoughts?

it was one of my few posts with a lot of lines in it a couple pages back, but i went over it again just now for my own clarity
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corrik you aren't around any more are you?
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sorry I didn't do much tonight, going to sleep now. see you all tomorrow!

I see
hmm
I have no idea how poison interacts with BGs
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Most likely scum shot either FD or zzyzyzx N1 (or Scare I guess but as I said before I don't think so) Or hit a bulletproof

OR maybe Super bodyguard can eat two kills?
That's what makes him super?
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why would scum shoot FD, who claimed the only person he trusted was han, a scum member?

other two options are possible at least
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I believe BG usually can't stop poison. But God was a Super Bodyguard so maybe he could?
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also possible. but that begs the question what does super poison do.

ultimately this speculation about roles is not going to get us anywhere unfortunately. am rereading stuff from previous topics now.

would be interested to hear thoughts from you two (death and mzero) about stuff unrelated to the chris/leo situation in the mean time!
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but Han was a SUPER poisoner too
I cant imagine the super modifier doing the same thing for each role though
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I will get to that once I am at my workstation, lol
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no worries!

i am aware how pushy and impatient i am. i would say i'm working on it, but...
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You are also a bit mean to poor old Chris.
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sorry, not sorry!

could you answer my question about when you go to work/what timezone you're in (i wanna say EST) and if you'll be available at all beforehand?
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1 est but I have stuff to do before that. I can be around a bit.
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alright. thank you. sleep well and all that
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htaeD posted...

that said, Chris is acting wildly different from his previous game, which is good

Does the fact that he's outright stated he's deliberately acting wildly different not make you question how good it really is?
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also this is just pointless speculation but i wonder if scum doesn't have some role that allows them to shorten the next day if the previous day doesn't end early or something, given han's insistence on not letting it end early.

meaningless thought but i want validation in my confusion yesterday!!
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That sounds like a weird role, which granted can't be ignored due to this being Blade mafia and all, but I would imagine Han yesterday was just him being a good sport about keeping up the act until the end. Insisting on not ending day early would if anything bait some of our more impatient players into hammering out of spite. I think if he was really desperate to keep the day going all the way he'd probably go into full Effort Posting mode and try to post a ton of WIFOM that would keep us wanting to poke at him until deadline.
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yeah that's fair, i suppose it would give more opportunity to give his buddies fuel to pin on people as scummy, like an afformentioned hammer

actually.

this line of thought leads me to suspect red *was* poisoned.

red's vote right at the end of day looked pretty bad. i was highly suspicious of him up until he flipped town this morning, and that vote right at the end of day when it didnt change anything was a big part of my suspicion. surely i'm not the only one who would have felt that way. why would scum kill him after doing something that looks so bad?

unless, of course, they poisoned him night 1.
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thank you panthera for turning what i felt a useless aside into something with potential!!
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wait.

damnit. i'm tired again.

at first i thought that played into the theory i had been messing around with in my head but now i realize that it doesn't.

sadface
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if a bodyguard is targetted for a kill, what happens?

obviously, if someone targets the person they guard, they die. but what happens if they're targetted directly?
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mafia wiki doesn't seem to cover this. i assume they die like normal, barring some other intervention.

the wiki does however, bring to light a variant of bodyguard that kills the person who attacked who they protected.

meta is dangerous and all but i do feel this is worth mentioning re: what is a super bodyguard
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pxlated posted...

if a bodyguard is targetted for a kill, what happens?

obviously, if someone targets the person they guard, they die. but what happens if they're targetted directly?

They just die
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pxlated posted...

the wiki does however, bring to light a variant of bodyguard that kills the person who attacked who they protected.

That is called an elite bodyguard around here iirc
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yeah that's what the wiki called it. it's mostly worthless speculation.

given all the other supers though, keeping in line with the flavor might make sense.

there is a good chance however the super is just a flavor trap, as chris points out
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mzero: maybe i missed this earlier, i was pretty focused on the chris stuff earlier but how do you feel about BCT?
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Hmm, but his 'actual' role was Perfect Protector with super bodyguard in parenthesis. I may be overthinking but that makes me think it's not a flavor trap
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oh.

huh.

i don't want to dive too deep into this but it's something, anyway
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Deep dives into the details are the wmafia irbaout
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...are what mafia is about

I might be too tired
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pxlated posted...

mzero: maybe i missed this earlier, i was pretty focused on the chris stuff earlier but how do you feel about BCT?

BCT is pretty scummy but unfortunately he's scummy in the same way many newbie town are, which often results in a mislynch. Basically he looks very paranoid and he's counter-voting basically everyone.

I'm about to start a reread since most of the game is sleeping anyway
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that was pretty much my take too. hard to get a good read but he definitely stands out.

Panthera posted...

Deep dives into the details are the wmafia irbaout

well, yeah, but deep diving into role meta in a game designed to fuck with role meta isn't something i'm eager to do beyond what we've already done.

it was worth noting but there's no way to make any solid claim either way beyond "this is a thing"
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Panthera posted...

htaeD posted...

that said, Chris is acting wildly different from his previous game, which is good

Does the fact that he's outright stated he's deliberately acting wildly different not make you question how good it really is?

I missed that part
okay that does make me question it, but then I think he'd not make a big deal about it if he wanted to look town
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the fact that red was also pretty suspected day2 makes me think scum poisoned him night1, rather then killed night2
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oh and

Internet in the remote rural northern village I live went down after lightning struck our tower. We never have cell service either. I've driven two hours to the nearest town so I have cell service while I grab supplies. I'm not one of the replacements, just temporarily stranded. Is Han still claiming scum?

This was Leo's latest post from 2 days ago.

Sure hope the issues were fixed.
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oh damnit

._.

sigh. i'm going to sleep for a few hours.

in the meantime: anyone that's reading, what do you think about corrik?
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he started a bit too mellow, but I liked his interactions with Han and his attitude towards Chris

Though it does weird me out that he's claimed just one role so far. Heh
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Hmm, looking back I found 3 instances on day 1 of Han helping BCT

HanOfTheNekos posted...

And andy - if you're Town, don't let yourself get caught into having to react to every thing people throw at you. You're just going to go on tilt, and Scum will push for your easy lynch.

But if you're Scum, feel free to go crazy with your reactions!

(note: I do not think andy is Scum)

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Tear(andy), I want you to throw every crazy idea out you come up with.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Andy - take your suspicions, and go reread on them.

These interactions with Andy are unusual, and the only player Han interacted with in this way. It looks like he's trying to help him out, which of course he could do on the scumboard as well if they're on a team, but maybe he was just doing it subconsciously?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Still don't like Panthera, or FD. Would be ok with a dowolf or IGCD lynch as well.

I'd say it's unlikely Han put all Town in this list. A common scum tactic is 3 town and 1 scum in a list of four. FD and IGCD already flipped town... his pressure of dowolf was pretty weak, calling him obvscum but voting Shad and then going after Panthera. Seemed kind of fake. Might be some light bussing?

I think I'll take a closer look at BCT and dowolf next. Based on reading Han's day 1, his interactions with those two look the most fishy imo
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wait dowolf being scum doesn't really make sense because he pointed out the FD post. doh
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htaeD posted...

he started a bit too mellow, but I liked his interactions with Han and his attitude towards Chris

Though it does weird me out that he's claimed just one role so far. Heh

you consider his behavior day 1 mellow?
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pxlated posted...

in the meantime: anyone that's reading, what do you think about corrik?

I think Corrik is town. His interactions with Han yesterday didn't look like teammates, and he has been actively trying to solve the game
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