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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/18 12:11:24 AM
#151:


Ah then what did you get?

Quack.
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:11:58 AM
#152:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Indies scan as scum.

pxlated posted...
i asked this yesterday. response from multiple people is that independent killing roles show up as scum

Alright, good to know, then. Thanks, guys.

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so you just willingly believe chris?
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BlueCrystalTear
07/02/18 12:11:59 AM
#153:


Corrik posted...
I am not a watcher, Chris. I do an unexpected action every night. Which your role seems to be not very different far off from mine.

Only difference is his action is expected.

Are you insinuating that Chris turned up as scum on a cop scan?
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/18 12:12:34 AM
#154:


Interesting. Thanks for sharing corrik.
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:12:40 AM
#155:


pxlated posted...
also corrik, leo, and any one else that has already claimed power (i think only you two right now aside from chris)

did you get any kind of n0 action

No. I also doubt his is real. If Leo went to Colzach, he is confirmed to have used a watch though. We will see.

If Leo is scum, he is confirmed to be town.

There is some discrepancy here though on how a super bodyguard works.
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:12:55 AM
#156:


yall, stop making me do a big think my brain is going to explode from all this thonkery
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BlueCrystalTear
07/02/18 12:13:19 AM
#157:


pxlated posted...
so you just willingly believe chris?

No. I'm questioning everything. I still don't trust Corrik, but I'm taking my vote off of him for now for no reason.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/18 12:13:32 AM
#158:


Leo is confirmed scum get hyped.
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:13:50 AM
#159:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Leo is confirmed scum get hyped.

I hate to break it to you...
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:14:02 AM
#160:


Corrik posted...
pxlated posted...
also corrik, leo, and any one else that has already claimed power (i think only you two right now aside from chris)

did you get any kind of n0 action

No. I also doubt his is real. If Leo went to Colzach, he is confirmed to have used a watch though. We will see.

If Leo is scum, he is confirmed to be town.

There is some discrepancy here though on how a super bodyguard works.


i'm not following the logic behind those two confirmed statements though

i feel like i can come up with reasonable scenarios where either result doesn't confirm anything
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/18 12:14:25 AM
#161:


Corrik posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Leo is confirmed scum get hyped.

I hate to break it to you...


???
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:14:36 AM
#162:


But if IGCD only takes all negative effects, he could have taken the poison from colzach on night 1.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/18 12:15:00 AM
#163:


...

:(

True...
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:15:15 AM
#164:


Corrik posted...
But if IGCD only takes all negative effects, he could have taken the poison from colzach on night 1.


uhm

what makes you think he was poisoned
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BlueCrystalTear
07/02/18 12:15:31 AM
#165:


I got no N0 action.

And Chris, may I ask the full result of your watch?
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:15:41 AM
#166:


oh, i misread "could" as "would"
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:16:07 AM
#167:


pxlated posted...
Corrik posted...
But if IGCD only takes all negative effects, he could have taken the poison from colzach on night 1.


uhm

what makes you think he was poisoned

I don't know. I thought red was poisoned initially and that colzach got shot last night. But, if superbodyguard works the way chris is saying it does, then it could be the reverse.
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:16:18 AM
#168:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
I got no N0 action.

And Chris, may I ask the full result of your watch?


uhhhhhhhh
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:16:38 AM
#169:


Andy has softclaimed power like 34 times this game, just for the record.
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:17:12 AM
#170:


oh, has he?

seriously y'all my head can't take all this thonking
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:17:44 AM
#171:


I didn't have a n0 action implies he has had actions every other night.

I think it's claim time, Andy.
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:19:45 AM
#172:


The way I see it is.

Super Bodyguard means nothing at all besides regular bodyguard. And Leo is scum.
Super Bodyguard works the way Chris says it does. And Leo just went to Colzach but it doesn't mean he shot him though he could have.
Super Bodyguard works the way Dels says it does. And Chris is caught lying.
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:22:29 AM
#173:


okay this raises a question in my mind, and maybe it's a misunderstanding but

so

n1 kills: scare, claimed by zach's axe cop. zyzzyzyzyzyzyxxyzyzy, occum's razor suggests scare did this. FD, who hid behind han and died for it.

n2: red, a vanilla, initially presumed poisoned. and IGCD, a bodyguard whom chris claims saved zach from leo.

why was zach not killed n1? if he was poisoned, as has been suggested, why would scum let a cop live night 1, and if he was poisoned, and the bodyguard absorbed it, would he get a second action to save someone n2 if he was dying? and if so, how did red die?

there was further steps to this logic i'm blanking on right now, give me a bit to regather my thoughts here
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MZero11
07/02/18 12:22:47 AM
#174:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
How amazing would it be if all three of red/corrik/scare were not town this game and my inactive gambit was super successful.

Could you even imagine?


so wait was this a gambit or did you actually scan them n0

I took this post as you admitting it was fake >_>
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:23:09 AM
#175:


also, no, i don't think andy should claim just yet.

we have enough power claims right now. give people time to show up and respond first. this day is shorter but we aren't in any rush.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/18 12:24:00 AM
#176:


MZero11 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
How amazing would it be if all three of red/corrik/scare were not town this game and my inactive gambit was super successful.

Could you even imagine?


so wait was this a gambit or did you actually scan them n0

I took this post as you admitting it was fake >_>


I went inactive to read my scans.
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MZero11
07/02/18 12:25:02 AM
#177:


pxlated posted...
and the bodyguard absorbed it, would he get a second action to save someone n2 if he was dying? and if so, how did red die?


Well the bodyguard has to actually target red, it's not like he just protects everyone

The logical thing is that Zach was poisoned and IGCD took it, scum figured Zach was dying for poison tonight and shot red. Assuming that's how Super BG works
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:25:40 AM
#178:


@Panthera

what's up, you were here a little while ago. gimme some thoughts
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MZero11
07/02/18 12:25:55 AM
#179:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
MZero11 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
How amazing would it be if all three of red/corrik/scare were not town this game and my inactive gambit was super successful.

Could you even imagine?


so wait was this a gambit or did you actually scan them n0

I took this post as you admitting it was fake >_>


I went inactive to read my scans.


ohh right I actually forgot you did that whole inactive thing d1 >_>
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:26:37 AM
#180:


MZero11 posted...
pxlated posted...
and the bodyguard absorbed it, would he get a second action to save someone n2 if he was dying? and if so, how did red die?


Well the bodyguard has to actually target red, it's not like he just protects everyone

The logical thing is that Zach was poisoned and IGCD took it, scum figured Zach was dying for poison tonight and shot red. Assuming that's how Super BG works


okay, that follows, but it still makes me wonder why they would let the axe cop live to day 2?
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:27:23 AM
#181:


also i wasnt suggesting that the bodyguard targetted red at any point
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:28:31 AM
#182:


or that the bodyguard would have saved red, my question was, if zach was poisoned night 1, and bodyguard protected leo night 2 (as chris is claiming), how did red die? he wasn't poisoned in this scenario, and IGCD wasn't killed protecting zach

chris. yo. explain.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/18 12:30:21 AM
#183:


Then Leo has a good reason to be on zach and he will let us know?
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:30:37 AM
#184:


pxlated posted...
okay this raises a question in my mind, and maybe it's a misunderstanding but

so

n1 kills: scare, claimed by zach's axe cop. zyzzyzyzyzyzyxxyzyzy, occum's razor suggests scare did this. FD, who hid behind han and died for it.

n2: red, a vanilla, initially presumed poisoned. and IGCD, a bodyguard whom chris claims saved zach from leo.

why was zach not killed n1? if he was poisoned, as has been suggested, why would scum let a cop live night 1, and if he was poisoned, and the bodyguard absorbed it, would he get a second action to save someone n2 if he was dying? and if so, how did red die?

there was further steps to this logic i'm blanking on right now, give me a bit to regather my thoughts here

Zach claimed a vig shot and scans. If Zach thought he would die night 1, he had to use his vig shot night 1. Unless scum felt Zach was going to shoot them, it was beneficial to them to let him shoot not scum.

Where it gets tricky is, it seems scum had a blocked regular shot night 1. Where did this shot go? If our protection is a bodyguard, then IGCD didn't stop it. Which we presume he would have used on Colzach night 1.

We still have no idea where this shot went. Whether it overlapped with another nightkill, went to FD and missed, or was blocked.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/18 12:31:05 AM
#185:


Wait I didnt say bg was on Leo.
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:32:10 AM
#186:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Oops wrong topic.

This is mafia.

##vote: leo

He was a bad boy and targeted our cop along with igcd last night.


yes you did
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:32:33 AM
#187:


or, sorry, you said he targetted zach.

if i said leo it was a typo
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:33:18 AM
#188:


yeah, sorry. typo. i meant to say the bodyguard targetted zach
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MZero11
07/02/18 12:34:22 AM
#189:


pxlated posted...
MZero11 posted...
pxlated posted...
and the bodyguard absorbed it, would he get a second action to save someone n2 if he was dying? and if so, how did red die?


Well the bodyguard has to actually target red, it's not like he just protects everyone

The logical thing is that Zach was poisoned and IGCD took it, scum figured Zach was dying for poison tonight and shot red. Assuming that's how Super BG works


okay, that follows, but it still makes me wonder why they would let the axe cop live to day 2?


poison might be their only way to bypass protection, with Zach being the obvious save target

also we don't know what Super Poison is, so it's possible there was an added benefit from poisoning Zach instead of killing him outright

or Zach is scum but I doubt that
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:34:58 AM
#190:


why do you doubt zach is scum?
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:37:34 AM
#191:


MZero11 posted...
pxlated posted...
MZero11 posted...
pxlated posted...
and the bodyguard absorbed it, would he get a second action to save someone n2 if he was dying? and if so, how did red die?


Well the bodyguard has to actually target red, it's not like he just protects everyone

The logical thing is that Zach was poisoned and IGCD took it, scum figured Zach was dying for poison tonight and shot red. Assuming that's how Super BG works


okay, that follows, but it still makes me wonder why they would let the axe cop live to day 2?


poison might be their only way to bypass protection, with Zach being the obvious save target

also we don't know what Super Poison is, so it's possible there was an added benefit from poisoning Zach instead of killing him outright

or Zach is scum but I doubt that

What do you mean by added benefit?
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:38:02 AM
#192:


Corrik posted...
MZero11 posted...
pxlated posted...
MZero11 posted...
pxlated posted...
and the bodyguard absorbed it, would he get a second action to save someone n2 if he was dying? and if so, how did red die?


Well the bodyguard has to actually target red, it's not like he just protects everyone

The logical thing is that Zach was poisoned and IGCD took it, scum figured Zach was dying for poison tonight and shot red. Assuming that's how Super BG works


okay, that follows, but it still makes me wonder why they would let the axe cop live to day 2?


poison might be their only way to bypass protection, with Zach being the obvious save target

also we don't know what Super Poison is, so it's possible there was an added benefit from poisoning Zach instead of killing him outright

or Zach is scum but I doubt that

What do you mean by added benefit?


please don't answer this question until we hear from zach
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:38:12 AM
#193:


please.
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:38:35 AM
#194:


pxlated posted...
Corrik posted...
MZero11 posted...
pxlated posted...
MZero11 posted...
pxlated posted...
and the bodyguard absorbed it, would he get a second action to save someone n2 if he was dying? and if so, how did red die?


Well the bodyguard has to actually target red, it's not like he just protects everyone

The logical thing is that Zach was poisoned and IGCD took it, scum figured Zach was dying for poison tonight and shot red. Assuming that's how Super BG works


okay, that follows, but it still makes me wonder why they would let the axe cop live to day 2?


poison might be their only way to bypass protection, with Zach being the obvious save target

also we don't know what Super Poison is, so it's possible there was an added benefit from poisoning Zach instead of killing him outright

or Zach is scum but I doubt that

What do you mean by added benefit?


please don't answer this question until we hear from zach

How the hell would he know the answer actually unless he is scum? You are acting very weird.
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Corrik
07/02/18 12:38:58 AM
#195:


Pxlated is trying so hard to appear as scum despite being literally confirmed town.
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:39:04 AM
#196:


i don't want to feed zach any potential responses.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/18 12:39:56 AM
#197:


Pxl is super cute town.
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:41:27 AM
#198:


it's not about mzero knowing the answer, it's that speculating about something like this presents options for people to latch onto later. it gives them a potential out that's already on the table.
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pxlated
07/02/18 12:41:58 AM
#199:


having to explain it this much kind of defeats the whole purpose though
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MZero11
07/02/18 12:42:38 AM
#200:


pxlated posted...
why do you doubt zach is scum?


I haven't read him as scum so far and his claim would be pretty wild coming from mafia

also scum had no reason to kill Scare so it makes more sense if Zach is town and vig'd him
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