Board 8 > Blade Mafia 6: I'm really the third strongest cow! I'll destroy moo now!

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Pxl is super cute town.

and you're an egotist who's majority contribution to the game has been a series of increasingly questionable claims.

see, i can be condescending too!
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MZero11 posted...

pxlated posted...

why do you doubt zach is scum?

I haven't read him as scum so far and his claim would be pretty wild coming from mafia

also scum had no reason to kill Scare so it makes more sense if Zach is town and vig'd him

eh, i have at least one scenario in my mind as to why scare would get scum killed and not zach. sitting on that one for a bit though.
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Not my fault I am better than you tbh.
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cool story.

anyway, we really need the rest of the game to show up before much more progress can be made
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Kind of rude to call me an egotist when all I did was call you town by the way. You are a bit of a troublesome guy.
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MZero11 posted...

pxlated posted...

why do you doubt zach is scum?

I haven't read him as scum so far and his claim would be pretty wild coming from mafia

also scum had no reason to kill Scare so it makes more sense if Zach is town and vig'd him

Uh, why would mafia have no reason to kill Scare? He wasn't mafia? What???
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Kind of rude to call me an egotist when all I did was call you town by the way. You are a bit of a troublesome guy.

It is a girl. And, yeah, she likes to be a little rash at times.
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Troublesome girl, sorry.
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Corrik do you think she knows I call people 'my cute little kouhais' it isn't meant to be rude :(
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik do you think she knows I call people 'my cute little kouhais' it isn't meant to be rude :(

No I don't think she knows that.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Kind of rude to call me an egotist when all I did was call you town by the way. You are a bit of a troublesome guy.

eh. given how rude you generally are to people while playing mafia it doesn't really bother me!

and when a large majority of your posts have been either the increasingly ridiculous claims, or short quips either tooting your own horn or very short statements about how so and so is likely scum with very little explanation (at least one of which was, again, tooting your own horn), i think it's justified!

especially coming from someone that values active participation as much as you do
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i'm not interested in being another person that blindly praises everything you do!
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pxlated posted...

i'm not interested in being another person that blindly praises everything you do!

Okay. Pxlated is my favorite person to play mafia with. Sorry everyone.
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When have I been rude? <_<
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pxlated posted...

it's not about mzero knowing the answer, it's that speculating about something like this presents options for people to latch onto later. it gives them a potential out that's already on the table.

I think you should wonder why Mzero said that. If there is an added benefit, he may have scumslipped there.

I figured it just meant the poison was unblockable. What he is talking about seems to be of a different vein.
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in this game, you haven't really. because you really haven't done much of anything substantial aside from, again, a series of claims intentionally designed to be unbelievable.
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Corrik posted...

pxlated posted...

it's not about mzero knowing the answer, it's that speculating about something like this presents options for people to latch onto later. it gives them a potential out that's already on the table.

I think you should wonder why Mzero said that. If there is an added benefit, he may have scumslipped there.

I figured it just meant the poison was unblockable. What he is talking about seems to be of a different vein.

this is possible, yes. i don't think it's unreasonable to think there might be something else going on ( i had similar thoughts), but you are absolutely right.
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Chris' night 0 claim is a complete lie btw. Just fyi if you are considering believing it. Tho scare has flipped what would make that correct.

There is zero chance in the world that a host would confirm 3 town players right off the bat of the game if he had selected all town.

If you believe that this is possible, you are nuts.
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Corrik posted...

Chris' night 0 claim is a complete lie btw. Just fyi if you are considering believing it. Tho scare has flipped what would make that correct.

There is zero chance in the world that a host would confirm 3 town players right off the bat of the game if he had selected all town.

If you believe that this is possible, you are nuts.

well, chris' wording was "at least one" is scum, which doesn't confirm anything about the other two.

i do think it's most likely bullshit though.
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pxlated posted...

Corrik posted...

Chris' night 0 claim is a complete lie btw. Just fyi if you are considering believing it. Tho scare has flipped what would make that correct.

There is zero chance in the world that a host would confirm 3 town players right off the bat of the game if he had selected all town.

If you believe that this is possible, you are nuts.

well, chris' wording was "at least one" is scum, which doesn't confirm anything about the other two.

i do think it's most likely bullshit though.

No you misunderstand. It is not possible at all. Because if he had selected all 3 town, he would have got no scum were in the 3. Then the game would have broken by having 3 confirmed town alrdy.

That is why his scan can't possibly be real at all.
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Corrik posted...

MZero11 posted...

pxlated posted...

why do you doubt zach is scum?

I haven't read him as scum so far and his claim would be pretty wild coming from mafia

also scum had no reason to kill Scare so it makes more sense if Zach is town and vig'd him

Uh, why would mafia have no reason to kill Scare? He wasn't mafia? What???

Scare was nearly lynched D1. From scum's perspective that's a mislynch since they wouldn't have know he was SK. So I don't think scum would throw away a potential mislynch with better targets available
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...oh

oh
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i'm a little disappointed i hadn't put that together corrik. thank you!
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I mean, if you were a player pulling double duty who thrives off data in a very large game and often are murdered very early before your data analysis can be put to use, what would you do to alter your fate? Act like a complete idiot for 3+ days until the game unfolds, scum has spent any extra killing power they may have, and then with more information than you've had in over 5+ years in a game on board 8 dissect scum as they desperately try to kill power roles other than you and leave you to feast on their corpses?

I mean, yeah you're right I am just being silly and bad.
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i'm not saying you're being bad, chris. i'm just saying you haven't done much substantial.

your tactic, as you would frame it, is certainly a believable ploy to remain off of scum radar.

i do however think it's a plausible tactic to explain why you haven't been killed by scum yet! as i've stated before.
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Corrik posted...

pxlated posted...

it's not about mzero knowing the answer, it's that speculating about something like this presents options for people to latch onto later. it gives them a potential out that's already on the table.

I think you should wonder why Mzero said that. If there is an added benefit, he may have scumslipped there.

I figured it just meant the poison was unblockable. What he is talking about seems to be of a different vein.

Unblockable would indeed fall under 'added benefit'

I wasn't talking about anything in particular, just that I assume Super Poison is bettet than regular poison
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MZero11 posted...

Corrik posted...

pxlated posted...

it's not about mzero knowing the answer, it's that speculating about something like this presents options for people to latch onto later. it gives them a potential out that's already on the table.

I think you should wonder why Mzero said that. If there is an added benefit, he may have scumslipped there.

I figured it just meant the poison was unblockable. What he is talking about seems to be of a different vein.

Unblockable would indeed fall under 'added benefit'

I wasn't talking about anything in particular, just that I assume Super Poison is bettet than regular poison

I misread your post slightly. I thought you were saying something else tbqh.
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But anyway that's not the truth the truth is I AM A PROUD TOWN DUCK, and Leo is scum. Mafia is all about having fun after all and even though you were man to me Pxl-chan I will let it go~
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mean to me*
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pxl I know you like that mention feature a lot but it's cool, I'll get caught up and post when I can. I'm too cool to come when called though

(so we're clear I prefer to not get mentioned in topics unless something is actually urgent, the rest is just bad humour)

I'm inclined to think the most likely explanation is that Han poisoned Red and scum...left Zach unchecked...that's weird but given what we know I don't see what else happened. Zach looked suspicious to people, hence why he claimed, so if they really feared a doctor they might leave him alone? If Chris' action is legit, scumLeo tried to off him last night. Red was under some suspicion day 1 (granted in this scenario some of it was from scum, but Chris did worry his dick wasn't as big as usual) but is a threat when he's on and probably a hard mislynch if he's putting up a fight, so he would seem a logical choice to poison. IGCD took the shot aimed at Zach, and that's about all.

I'm really worried about Corrik at this point, although if Chris' whole rule of three power is right that rules him out (assuming I believe a n0 "one of three guys is scum lol" scan exists, which I am skeptical about for what I should hope are obvious reasons). He really feels like he's been trying to fake his usual aggravating behavior, kind of lacks the focus he normally has. I don't care for what BCT has been doing, he's kind of using Corrik as an excuse to have something to post about while not doing much with the rest of the game, but he seemed genuine to me the first two days. I'd say I'm not sold on him being town anymore, not sold on him being scum.

Dels' post about letting other people decide the end of day bugged me but he's seemed okay to me otherwise so that's most likely a false alarm, leaning town on him. dowolf is probably town for what he did with Han yesterday but dowolf can be tricky (actually I don't know dowolf's playstyle at all but I'm going to be nice and assume he's a genius, it's not like scum would hesitate to bus a used up poisoner if they felt town would eventually notice the obvious hint FD dropped anyway). He's probably town but it's worth noting not confirmed.

Given the likeliest theory is that Chris is telling us something accurate (Chris what happened to waiting until day 4), Leo is probably scum.

##Vote: Leo
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except we've already discussed how leo, as scum, targetting zach to kill him is highly questionable something you've agreed to!

why you're doubling down on that after admitting this point is odd.
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When did I agree on that?
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Panthera posted...

pxl I know you like that mention feature a lot but it's cool, I'll get caught up and post when I can. I'm too cool to come when called though

(so we're clear I prefer to not get mentioned in topics unless something is actually urgent, the rest is just bad humour)

I'm inclined to think the most likely explanation is that Han poisoned Red and scum...left Zach unchecked...that's weird but given what we know I don't see what else happened. Zach looked suspicious to people, hence why he claimed, so if they really feared a doctor they might leave him alone? If Chris' action is legit, scumLeo tried to off him last night. Red was under some suspicion day 1 (granted in this scenario some of it was from scum, but Chris did worry his dick wasn't as big as usual) but is a threat when he's on and probably a hard mislynch if he's putting up a fight, so he would seem a logical choice to poison. IGCD took the shot aimed at Zach, and that's about all.

I'm really worried about Corrik at this point, although if Chris' whole rule of three power is right that rules him out (assuming I believe a n0 "one of three guys is scum lol" scan exists, which I am skeptical about for what I should hope are obvious reasons). He really feels like he's been trying to fake his usual aggravating behavior, kind of lacks the focus he normally has. I don't care for what BCT has been doing, he's kind of using Corrik as an excuse to have something to post about while not doing much with the rest of the game, but he seemed genuine to me the first two days. I'd say I'm not sold on him being town anymore, not sold on him being scum.

Dels' post about letting other people decide the end of day bugged me but he's seemed okay to me otherwise so that's most likely a false alarm, leaning town on him. dowolf is probably town for what he did with Han yesterday but dowolf can be tricky (actually I don't know dowolf's playstyle at all but I'm going to be nice and assume he's a genius, it's not like scum would hesitate to bus a used up poisoner if they felt town would eventually notice the obvious hint FD dropped anyway). He's probably town but it's worth noting not confirmed.

Given the likeliest theory is that Chris is telling us something accurate (Chris what happened to waiting until day 4), Leo is probably scum.

##Vote: Leo

Damn this post is bad
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Then Leo has a good reason to be on zach and he will let us know?

okay, "agreed" is not the right word i suppose but you don't deny my train of thought
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If scum left Zach "unchecked" night 1 cuz a doctor or watcher or whatever presumably exists. Why did they not leave Zach unchecked with all those roles still out there night 2?
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Corrik posted...

Damn this post is bad

why is it that i still just want to agree with everything you say

even when you were proven wrong twice

And what does your train of thought have against getting Leo to come in here and claim his action? Same reuslt if you think he is scum or not, no? If I am right he is scum and he claims. If you're right he isn't scum (or maybe scum roleblocker! Let us know, Zach!) and he has a viable reason and we discuss it.
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Corrik posted...

Panthera posted...

pxl I know you like that mention feature a lot but it's cool, I'll get caught up and post when I can. I'm too cool to come when called though

(so we're clear I prefer to not get mentioned in topics unless something is actually urgent, the rest is just bad humour)

I'm inclined to think the most likely explanation is that Han poisoned Red and scum...left Zach unchecked...that's weird but given what we know I don't see what else happened. Zach looked suspicious to people, hence why he claimed, so if they really feared a doctor they might leave him alone? If Chris' action is legit, scumLeo tried to off him last night. Red was under some suspicion day 1 (granted in this scenario some of it was from scum, but Chris did worry his dick wasn't as big as usual) but is a threat when he's on and probably a hard mislynch if he's putting up a fight, so he would seem a logical choice to poison. IGCD took the shot aimed at Zach, and that's about all.

I'm really worried about Corrik at this point, although if Chris' whole rule of three power is right that rules him out (assuming I believe a n0 "one of three guys is scum lol" scan exists, which I am skeptical about for what I should hope are obvious reasons). He really feels like he's been trying to fake his usual aggravating behavior, kind of lacks the focus he normally has. I don't care for what BCT has been doing, he's kind of using Corrik as an excuse to have something to post about while not doing much with the rest of the game, but he seemed genuine to me the first two days. I'd say I'm not sold on him being town anymore, not sold on him being scum.

Dels' post about letting other people decide the end of day bugged me but he's seemed okay to me otherwise so that's most likely a false alarm, leaning town on him. dowolf is probably town for what he did with Han yesterday but dowolf can be tricky (actually I don't know dowolf's playstyle at all but I'm going to be nice and assume he's a genius, it's not like scum would hesitate to bus a used up poisoner if they felt town would eventually notice the obvious hint FD dropped anyway). He's probably town but it's worth noting not confirmed.

Given the likeliest theory is that Chris is telling us something accurate (Chris what happened to waiting until day 4), Leo is probably scum.

##Vote: Leo

Damn this post is bad

the rule of 3 scan is literally impossible, as corrik pointed out a short bit ago. i was willing to believe it when it sounded like chris was handed a list of 3 people and told one of them at least is scum, but then he said that he was able to *chose* which 3 people to scan, which is impossible.

will address some of these other points in a bit
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Clearly none of you have played in a Blade game before. Crazy Blade.
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Dels posted...

Corrik posted...

Damn this post is bad

why is it that i still just want to agree with everything you say

even when you were proven wrong twice

I dunno it is really bothering my that you keep saying this tho cuz usually your are down my throat telling me how much I fucking sake basically all the time lol.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

And what does your train of thought have against getting Leo to come in here and claim his action? Same reuslt if you think he is scum or not, no? If I am right he is scum and he claims. If you're right he isn't scum (or maybe scum roleblocker! Let us know, Zach!) and he has a viable reason and we discuss it.

i mean, i have no issue with leo coming to defend himself against this. in fact, i asked for this not long ago.

but he's not confirmed scum, even from your point of view (unless you want to retroactively debunk what i said, which please, do!)
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yeah I know, right?

LOL

that was years ago though so who knows

for now i think you're on point with everything

(except the claim-forcing shit)

so whatever

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Clearly none of you have played in a Blade game before. Crazy Blade.

blade is not so stupid as to offer a scenario where you get 3 confirmed town members before the game even starts.
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Corrik posted...

If scum left Zach "unchecked" night 1 cuz a doctor or watcher or whatever presumably exists. Why did they not leave Zach unchecked with all those roles still out there night 2?

I don't know. The problem is, it seems dumb, but we know Zach survived night 1, we know he wasn't blocked night 1 thanks to your watch, if Chris is right then it pretty much guarantees Leo is scum who shot at him. What explains that scenario? It's weird that scum wouldn't deal with the murdercop night 1 and then turn around and try on night 2 without flips that would make it look safer, but that looks like what happened.
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Panthera posted...

Corrik posted...

If scum left Zach "unchecked" night 1 cuz a doctor or watcher or whatever presumably exists. Why did they not leave Zach unchecked with all those roles still out there night 2?

I don't know. The problem is, it seems dumb, but we know Zach survived night 1, we know he wasn't blocked night 1 thanks to your watch, if Chris is right then it pretty much guarantees Leo is scum who shot at him. What explains that scenario? It's weird that scum wouldn't deal with the murdercop night 1 and then turn around and try on night 2 without flips that would make it look safer, but that looks like what happened.

I mean, we have alrdy explained why that scenario doesn't have to work. If super bodyguard works the way Chris says, they could have poisoned Colzach night 1 and IGCD absorbed it. Meaning they regular killed red last night.
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Panthera posted...

Corrik posted...

If scum left Zach "unchecked" night 1 cuz a doctor or watcher or whatever presumably exists. Why did they not leave Zach unchecked with all those roles still out there night 2?

I don't know. The problem is, it seems dumb, but we know Zach survived night 1, we know he wasn't blocked night 1 thanks to your watch, if Chris is right then it pretty much guarantees Leo is scum who shot at him. What explains that scenario? It's weird that scum wouldn't deal with the murdercop night 1 and then turn around and try on night 2 without flips that would make it look safer, but that looks like what happened.

there's a super obvious explaination: chris is lying
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anyway.

i really hesitate to keep discussing this much further without leo showing up to offer his own insight.
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I am not sure Chris is lying here as I don't see the basis for it. Tho if Dels is right about how it works he absolutely is lying and it is undebatable. He would have only seen Leo on igcd.
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Corrik posted...

I am not sure Chris is lying here as I don't see the basis for it. Tho if Dels is right about how it works he absolutely is lying and it is undebatable. He would have only seen Leo on igcd.

er, can you explain this? i saw the dels explanation but i guess i'm not following the only seeing leo bit.

anyway, i'm not certain chris is lying about this specific claim of having a watch on zach last night

we do know he is lying at least partially though.
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Corrik you do realize Dels already withdrew his statement because it is pretty obvious (I mean maybe I just know Blade) that the super stuff is just blade being silly.
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