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Gafemage
06/30/18 3:26:15 AM
#1:


Where do you stand - Results (41 votes)
Proud pizza elitist - chain pizzas just don't compare to quality small/independent joints.
34.15% (14 votes)
14
Anti-pizza-elitist - chain pizzas are just as good - if not better - than pizzas from small.independent restaurants.
19.51% (8 votes)
8
Neutral/undecided
39.02% (16 votes)
16
I don't like pizza...
7.32% (3 votes)
3
Something that has divided CE for years...
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PhazonReborn
06/30/18 3:30:46 AM
#2:


Chain Pizza like Pizza Hut and Dominos is absolutely fucking disgusting and putrid.

Local, independent places that hand toss and actually use wood burning ovens are the only mother fucking way to eat Pizza.

We ate Pizza Hut the other day. I hadn't eaten it for about 2 years. It made me nauseated and I had the shits from the manufactured grease they inject into the dough after 20 mins of eating it.
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Reis
06/30/18 3:33:43 AM
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The only people who would vote for chain pizza are the people who live in shitholes where local pizza isn't easily accessible
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PhazonReborn
06/30/18 3:43:52 AM
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Reis posted...
The only people who would vote for chain pizza are the people who live in shitholes where local pizza isn't easily accessible

This
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Sphyx
06/30/18 4:08:56 AM
#5:


It's not the same, and definitely not as good as a half-decent homemade, but chain restaurant food still has its place.

You can watch a brilliantly written, deep and meaningful mindbender of a movie one day, and then be just as entertained by a ham/cheese action movie the next day.

It's possible to like both despite seeing that one is better than the other, and even occasionally have a preference for the lesser. Sadly, a lot of people dont seem to get that.
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Mal_Fet
06/30/18 4:11:39 AM
#6:


Some chain pizzas are good, but the most popular chains are terrible, like Pizza Hut
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MrMallard
06/30/18 4:13:34 AM
#7:


I don't fucking care. I don't doubt that there's better pizza, but I just want some flavoursome toppings on some spongy bread

...Pizza Hut does suck though. Domino's is alright, but Pizza Hut tastes like cardboard and is too expensive
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BloodyNate
06/30/18 4:14:43 AM
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i like chain pizza when i need an affordable fix or if its the most convenient

but the best pizza is obviously gonna be handled with the love and care that corporate pizza cant hope to match
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Darkrobotisback
06/30/18 4:15:13 AM
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I mean some chain pizza joints can be good (Pizza Hut).
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southcoast09
06/30/18 4:15:49 AM
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I am not particular, if the pizza is actually cooked. I think that dominos is finally leaning that people dont like pizza thats cooked for three minutes in a sandwich oven.

It was just like everybody forgot how to make a pizza overnight. Dominos and Pizza Hut both stopped cooking their pizzas, unless you tell them to leave it in until its finished. You shouldnt have to tell them.

Dominos even went so far as to show photos of their own bad pizzas and publicly apologize. Geanted, they just started to paint garlic on the crust (another unwanted change that you have to tell them not to do unless you want it).
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Reis
06/30/18 4:16:29 AM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
I mean some chain pizza joints can be good (Pizza Hut).

MrMallard posted...
..Pizza Hut does suck though. Domino's is alright, but Pizza Hut tastes like cardboard and is too expensive

You never get conflicting answers like this with local
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BloodyNate
06/30/18 4:17:16 AM
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Reis posted...
You never get conflicting answers like this with local


wtf yes you do people always see shit with rose colored glasses
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MrMallard
06/30/18 4:17:45 AM
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Reis posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
I mean some chain pizza joints can be good (Pizza Hut).

MrMallard posted...
..Pizza Hut does suck though. Domino's is alright, but Pizza Hut tastes like cardboard and is too expensive

You never get conflicting answers like this with local

True, but it's also regional differences. Aussie Pizza Hut is probably miles away from murican Pizza Hut
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Darkrobotisback
06/30/18 4:19:18 AM
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Reis posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
I mean some chain pizza joints can be good (Pizza Hut).

MrMallard posted...
..Pizza Hut does suck though. Domino's is alright, but Pizza Hut tastes like cardboard and is too expensive

You never get conflicting answers like this with local

Probably the best pizza place I've been to was "Charlie's Trio"...
But that place is pretty far...
Pizza Hut is close by from where I live and it's a lot cheaper too
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Aristoph
06/30/18 4:21:07 AM
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I've had some really great local or independent places. But I've noticed that the smaller places have a much wider range of quality. You could go one day and get a 10/10 perfect pizza. Then when you show up the next day and order the same pizza, it will be absolute garbage-tier disgusting inedible trash.

My personal favorite pizza place near my house is a chain. Georgio's Oven Fresh Pizza. It's not amazing, but it's pretty good and probably an 8/10 on average. And they're consistent as fuck. You'll never get a 10/10 from there, but you'll never get a 3/10, either. You can expect that it will be between a 7 and a 9 every single time, and you will always be satisfied with the meal. And that's worth something.

Papa John's sucks. So does Pizza Hut. Hungry Howie's is pretty solid, but there sadly isn't one near me. I miss getting Howie's pretty regularly in college and they were another one that was pretty consistent in terms of always being above average without ever being "the best pizza you've ever had."
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Gafemage
06/30/18 4:21:30 AM
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@southcoast09 posted...
I am not particular, if the pizza is actually cooked. I think that dominos is finally leaning that people dont like pizza thats cooked for three minutes in a sandwich oven.

http://betosoriginalpizza.com/about-betos/2894113

https://www.foodbeast.com/news/betos-pizza/

https://imgur.com/OhxKIVE
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Aristoph
06/30/18 4:22:55 AM
#17:


Reis posted...

You never get conflicting answers like this with local


I've seen conflicting answers like that with a local place from the same person before. It's like I said in my last post, local places struggle with consistency because they don't have a real system in place. They go by feel more often than not, and depending on who's cooking or how busy they are the results can be on wildly different spectrums.
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FL81
06/30/18 4:30:13 AM
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On a related note, while being completely different from authentic Mexican food, Chipotle is actually pretty good >_>
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BloodyNate
06/30/18 4:31:00 AM
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FL81 posted...
On a related note, while being completely different from authentic Mexican food, Chipotle is actually pretty good >_>

agreed, i enjoy a good chipotle burrito & some of them lime chips from time to time
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Gafemage
06/30/18 4:32:37 AM
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FL81 posted...
On a related note, while being completely different from authentic Mexican food, Chipotle is actually pretty good >_>

Id disagree with you, but also Im pretty sure I live near the two worst Chipotle locations in the country, so idk if I have a truly informed opinion on the matter.
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OwlRammer
06/30/18 4:45:33 AM
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don't care, people care way too much about this and are willing to go as far as to say every other pizza because their favorite local pizza place is garbaaj, meanwhile I'm sitting here, the enlightened pizza guru I am, and know that all pizza is at least decent as long as it isn't burnt
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MadDewg
06/30/18 6:07:08 AM
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My favorite chain is marco's pizza. They make some really on-point pizza. Local places is definitely better than the rest. (Althrough I do admit, I like getting a stuffed crust from pizza hut whenever there is a sale going on......which feels like once every year or so).
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Kineth
06/30/18 6:10:45 AM
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PhazonReborn posted...
Reis posted...
The only people who would vote for chain pizza are the people who live in shitholes where local pizza isn't easily accessible

This

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myzz7
06/30/18 6:23:26 AM
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PhazonReborn posted...
Chain Pizza like Pizza Hut and Dominos is absolutely fucking disgusting and putrid.

no it's not. shut the fuck up. there might be some better pizza joints out there, not many, but it doesn't make main line pizza "disgusting" or whatever. its fine or even good if u know how to take advantage of their customization options. again, shut the fuck up.
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Dragonblade01
06/30/18 6:42:58 AM
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I'll get Dominos in Japan for when I want some American comfort food.

But when I'm actually back visiting the US, I always go straight to the local Original Ginos near my house. That shit is too good.
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clearaflagrantj
06/30/18 7:04:40 AM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Not only is Chicago-style pizza real pizza, it's the best kind of pizza there is.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH you are fucking delusional

New York style pizza is the only pizza that matters. GTFO out of here with your calzone/lasagna looking shit
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MajorasMaskMoon
06/30/18 7:05:32 AM
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I don't give a fucking shit...Consume is consume if you ask me
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MajorasMaskMoon
06/30/18 7:06:07 AM
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New York style...does that come with gunshots?
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DrizztLink
06/30/18 7:06:52 AM
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MajorasMaskMoon posted...
New York style...does that come with gunshots?

I don't think Chiraq really has the moral high ground when it comes to violent crime.
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MajorasMaskMoon
06/30/18 7:06:52 AM
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Chicago pizza comes with beatings if you voted for trump...and gunshots.
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MajorasMaskMoon
06/30/18 7:08:09 AM
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I'm willing to try new things......but you know....I'm really...really...fucking tired of getting shot with sniper rifles....that's NOT AT ALL how moons work! We don't change size like that!
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DrizztLink
06/30/18 7:10:08 AM
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cjsdowg
06/30/18 7:10:25 AM
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I am not an elitist; I think people can like what they want. However just to be personally. Smaller local places are better than others. And Papa Johns is the worst pizza around .
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Error1355
06/30/18 7:11:21 AM
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Local stores are way better, but the cheapness of Dominos can't be beat sometimes.
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MajorasMaskMoon
06/30/18 7:26:02 AM
#37:


DrizztLink posted...
dude either be on gimmick or don't


Grrr......I....*growls*....I am above you! do NOT question me!.....Allright.....apparently some jerk is playing that damn song again...I'll spare you for now....
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Second_Chances
06/30/18 7:26:40 AM
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the best pizzas I've had have been from local places, but the worst were also from local places, so the whole "local is always better than chains" thing some preach seems silly to me

the only wide chain I really like these days is Domino's but only like half of the employees at a given store seem to know what they're doing with the bad ones either undercooking it or going super overkill with the cheese, Papa Johns was just old Domino's but worse when I last had it, Pizza Hut used to be good but went to shit but maybe it was only good because I was younger and dumber, Little Caesar's is cheap cardboard but cheap cardboard is preferable to PJ or PH, Costco's "Combo" pizza is good but their cheese is awful

the local pizza places in my current area can usually do good with plain cheese pizza but most seem incapable of making a good pizza with any toppings that aren't pepperoni, the only places that seem to use fresh, quality ingredients are primarily regular sit-in restaurants that also happen to make pizzas
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MajorasMaskMoon
06/30/18 7:29:06 AM
#39:


Error1355 posted...
Local stores are way better, but the cheapness of Dominos can't be beat sometimes.


You..know who I am....For that..I shall....not consume you...but...tell me of this...."Dominos"....are they really that good now?
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Capital_Tenant
06/30/18 8:21:22 AM
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Don't care about that shit. Good pizza is good pizza. I've had some good ones on both sides.

DrizztLink posted...
dude either be on gimmick or don't

lmfao
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creativerealms
06/30/18 8:39:10 AM
#41:


Is it elitism when it's true?
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PhazonReborn
06/30/18 12:33:37 PM
#42:


myzz7 posted...
PhazonReborn posted...
Chain Pizza like Pizza Hut and Dominos is absolutely fucking disgusting and putrid.

no it's not. shut the fuck up. there might be some better pizza joints out there, not many, but it doesn't make main line pizza "disgusting" or whatever. its fine or even good if u know how to take advantage of their customization options. again, shut the fuck up.

Lol
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Gafemage
06/30/18 12:34:59 PM
#43:


Highwind07 posted...
The "local pizza are always better" statement is wrong for me. I have had gone to local places before in many areas that I have lived in and the busier ones are usually the ones that follow chains almost to a t because they have to produce them fast. I even worked in both independent and chain before and they both have had pretty much the same ingredients, same methods, same whatever just on different scales. Hell, I was even mind blown when I had pizza made by genuine Italians that tasted not too different from chain pizza.

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averagejoel
06/30/18 12:42:26 PM
#44:


big chain pizza places are literally never even on my radar. I'm pretty sure the only one anywhere near me is Greco. they sometimes have great deals on, but generally they're the worst pizza place in town. they're also well outside of normal walking distance, and there are like 4 really good local places within really easy walking distance
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Raikuro
06/30/18 12:44:19 PM
#45:


I'd eat local more if they actually delivered. None of them are even on ubereats around here.
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creativerealms
06/30/18 12:44:19 PM
#46:


The chain places just don't use as high quality ingredients in my experience. Now I can still eat and enjoy a chain place pizza but I do believe local places are better.
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12amMadman
06/30/18 12:58:39 PM
#49:


I like it all, even the shittiest 7/11 pizza taste pretty good to me.

Although, after my recent trip to NY, I'm low-key jelly of the pizza selection there.
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SMAP-
06/30/18 1:04:33 PM
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Local places tend to better by quite a bit, but basically all pizza is good

Except Papa Johns.
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