Board 8 > Blade Mafia 5 Topic 4: The host has actually mood a topic! MOO YEAH!

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It's easy to forget I played LOTRO too isn't it?
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Also pretty sure Han was on our team in that game too.

I checked. he was. Eventually(We brought him back as scum)
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

It's easy to forget I played LOTRO too isn't it?

nah we all played lotro. I try my hardest to not remember the waterfall.
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Was that not it?
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19. Han
20. Corrik
3. Death
14. Suprak

i felt like shutting my brain off and throwing darts. I tossed these.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Was that not it?

Oh no, that was definitely it.
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Corrik posted...

There is zero percent chance Han is town. The demeanor is all wrong in his responses. Fuck the info itself. That's enough.

Nah, I get very mad when I get caught as Scum.

I'm fine now because I've literally never been mislynched. Today won't be the first time.

I'm off to bed, but I'll dig in more tomorrow.

red13n posted...

Also pretty sure Han was on our team in that game too.

I checked. he was. Eventually(We brought him back as scum)

What game was this?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

What game was this?

Disney
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Nah, I get very mad when I get caught as Scum.

You weren't mad when caught last game.
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Corrik posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Nah, I get very mad when I get caught as Scum.

You weren't mad when caught last game.

lol

No wonder we won last game. You didn't even pay attention xD
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Trying to catch up but super busy at work. Is there anything super important I need to know. Can anyone summarise what is happening with these topics being all over the place.
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5tarscream posted...

Trying to catch up but super busy at work. Is there anything super important I need to know. Can anyone summarise what is happening with these topics being all over the place.

Corrik came out with a scan that said you are scum for sure.
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(real story i have no idea who you are)
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he replaced suprak mid d1, has done nothing since.
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When talking jinjos (dear god why) Corrik noted Shad claimed right first of all of them, making him likelier town. To remind everyone, Shad was the guy who got host-confirmed (or, well, Crescent-confirmed, same thing) as showing up late. He didn't exactly have a choice about claiming first of all the Jinjos. Can someone think you're towny for claiming early when your role pretty much forces you to? I wonder what that means? No really, someone tell me something, no one tells me shit around here.

5tarscream posted...

Trying to catch up but super busy at work. Is there anything super important I need to know. Can anyone summarise what is happening with these topics being all over the place.

There are jinjos, some people died, some guy lost his mind, Han is scum that FD died for hiding behind and we know your little secret
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Yeah I replaced Suprak but I got confused because the host wasn't the same and Suprak's name is still in the first posts. I also had a graduation ceremony for the kids leaving my school yesterday so was really busy.
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Corrik posted...

Mzero
IGCD
And either Shad/Eaed.

A jinjo has to be scum. No way all are town and one indy to hunt them all. Imbalanced.

Where are you getting the idea I'm a jinjo?
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If I call you Starscream will you know who I'm talking about or does the 5 need to be in there?

MZero11 posted...

Where are you getting the idea I'm a jinjo?

Corrik's a nobody, and nobody expects Jinjo
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Yeah Starscream is fine just use the 5 if your tagging me.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm fine now because I've literally never been mislynched. Today won't be the first time.

Well yeah cause you're scum

##Vote: Han

That FD post couldn't be more clear tbh
Now let's see who phones it in today. Personally I'd like to see more from dowolf cause he's a strong player but kind of coasting
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Man, no way does a scum andy whose buddy is caught comes in here and votes you like that.

BCT is basically a newbie though right? I'm not so sure he thinks things through that thoroughly as scum tbh he might just be flailing. Regardless he has basically counter-voted everyone who has voted him so far
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Mzero dowolf coasting so hard he is the one who pointed out fd's post.

Mzero please.

Also newbie town counter voting makes sense.
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Trying to catch up. Panthera's wallposts dont make it easy.

So the assumption is that FD hid behind Han because hiders cant be shot directly?
(I dont see Hiders enough to know if this is how their role always works)
I suppose that does all add up
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Fence posts, Death. Fence posts.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Mzero dowolf coasting so hard he is the one who pointed out fd's post.

Mzero please.

Also newbie town counter voting makes sense.

"Oh"
Well i had a hunch from the FD post from the moment he posted it so I didn't really notice who pointed it out first today >_> my bad

Yes, it makes sense as either alignment. But you said 'no way' does he do it as scum!
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Fence has a different connotation to me, but alright.
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htaeD posted...

Trying to catch up. Panthera's wallposts dont make it easy.

So the assumption is that FD hid behind Han because hiders cant be shot directly?
(I dont see Hiders enough to know if this is how their role always works)
I suppose that does all add up

Hiders can be shot directly if they choose not to act I believe. If they hide behind scum or someone who is night killed, they die. It would be kind of a useless power if they could be shot directly >_>

But no one knows what a SUPER Hider is
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Well seeing that FD post that Dowolf quoted, I cant imagine FD would NOT have used his hide action (on Han) last night.
And it does imply that he dies if he targets scum.

Can hiders get roleblocked? Maybe thats what the SUPER is for?
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I would assume hiders get roleblocked, but then you're left with a roleblock and kill both going to FD. When there was a claimed murdercop who we know went unblocked. When there are a lot of players you'd expect to be killed ahead of a low activity FD (Chris, Red, Han since he could be town in this scenario, Leo maybe, anyone else that may have hinted power). Surely there's someone else scum would target? We can conclude Scare didn't do it because he was Jinjo hunting. We know it wasn't Zach. Scum blocks FD and a vigilante exists and shot FD night 1 for no adequately explored reason? Scum is just so terrified of being watched on anyone else that they block *and* kill FD despite having no reason to think he'd be anything more worth blocking than, you know, the murdercop? Unless you think Zach is scum, it doesn't make a lot of sense. And even then it's kind of hard to see the reason for it.
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Wait what does fence mean to you Death. I say fence because it's not as thick as a wall. It has holes in it. My logic has no holes but my text sure does. Is fence some sort of mysterious European slang for unmentionable depravity?
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Panthera posted...

Wait what does fence mean to you Death. I say fence because it's not as thick as a wall. It has holes in it. My logic has no holes but my text sure does. Is fence some sort of mysterious European slang for unmentionable depravity?

I can't speak for death, but fence in mafia tends to refer to being indecisive I think. Like 'on the fence'

It's possible a town roleblocker exists and they blocked FD and scum shot him, but like that would be pretty wild and I can't imagine why anyone would block FD of all players
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yeah thats the context I remember more, Panth
'fencesitting'

I got what you meant though
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also hmm
maybe scum found out that FD was hinting hider, like dowolf did (or dowolf is scum!)
but thats a big leap, and we still dont know what SUPER means anyway
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htaeD posted...

also hmm
maybe scum found out that FD was hinting hider, like dowolf did (or dowolf is scum!)
but thats a big leap, and we still dont know what SUPER means anyway

Even if they did, would they really let Zach go unblocked to frame Han? Doesn't seem like a very good trade (unless Zach is also scum, but that's a big stretch)
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Also going all in on a hider (if they picked up on that) is a bad play because it's a potential free extra kill for scum

The only way I see Han as town is if FD was blocked by town and scum happened to shoot FD for whatever reason
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I was surprised to see Zach unblocked and apparently untargeted for a kill
one I suppose could be explained by scums docfear, but its not as if they had better RB targets

scum could have been really sure Colzach would never shoot them, which does make me like Corrik more

nut while one cant rule out zach being scum, I feel he wouldnt have shot Scare if he was
and a role like his is not one scum can keep alive for long anyway
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MZero11 posted...

Also going all in on a hider (if they picked up on that) is a bad play because it's a potential free extra kill for scum

The only way I see Han as town is if FD was blocked by town and scum happened to shoot FD for whatever reason

What?

I can see a couple of scenarios Han is town, but the fact remains his reaction doesn't strike me as town. So it is unlikely any of those are true. But, I assume scum picked up on the breadcrumb as we had two people alive today which surely knew about it yesterday and we don't know if either is actually scum or not.
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I feel, the fact that we're thinking about it more than Han himself, speaks miles about him anyway.
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One thing I have considered was that scum picked up on the breadcrumb. Chris or red. Then scum purposely busdrove FD into scum so he would die and Han would look scum, but I am not sure hider is even targetable by a bus drive. So, I think that rules that out. In fact, I am not sure anything could target him.

FD has to be smart enough to realize that he couldn't change his target after his post or he could be fucking the game over.

Like, I am pretty sure Han is just scum. The only scenarios I could think of where he would be town include snap claims like. Nope I am PGO or something of the sort. That has not happened here.

You have to do way too many jumps and hurdles to try to maybe find him town.
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Yeah thats likely the way to go today, but I do want Han to claim

Is 6 votes too much?
i dont think 6 is too much

##Vote: Han
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Corrik posted...

Mzero
IGCD
And either Shad/Eaed.

A jinjo has to be scum. No way all are town and one indy to hunt them all. Imbalanced.

I'm not a jinjo
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik posted...

Mzero
IGCD
And either Shad/Eaed.

A jinjo has to be scum. No way all are town and one indy to hunt them all. Imbalanced.

I'm not a jinjo

It's like you and Mzero can't read.
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htaeD posted...

Yeah thats likely the way to go today, but I do want Han to claim

Is 6 votes too much?
i dont think 6 is too much

##Vote: Han

I dont know if I want to put Han at -2, so please claim Han

Corrik posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik posted...

Mzero
IGCD
And either Shad/Eaed.

A jinjo has to be scum. No way all are town and one indy to hunt them all. Imbalanced.

I'm not a jinjo

It's like you and Mzero can't read.

I've never claimed to be able to.
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MZero11 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Man, no way does a scum andy whose buddy is caught comes in here and votes you like that.

BCT is basically a newbie though right? I'm not so sure he thinks things through that thoroughly as scum tbh he might just be flailing. Regardless he has basically counter-voted everyone who has voted him so far

The first few counter-votes were jokes when nobody was taking the game seriously. The other two were for people who were acting shady. I was thinking of voting Corrik before he voted me, simply because I didn't like how he was forcing me to claim on Day 1. I've thought he was scum since. Eaed brought outside perceptions into the game as means for justification. I don't like that either. And once he personally attacked me and tried to make ME the one who was bringing outside things in (lol), I knew he was scum... though I'm uncertain if that's in the game or just in real life.

htaeD posted...

I was surprised to see Zach unblocked and apparently untargeted for a kill

Unless they couldn't block his kill?
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I dont think Colzach said his kill was unblockable...

but its possible

a town RBer could have hit the scumRB, is that what you are thinking?

(in any case, no townpower should come forward today)
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Han is done and dusted, and I missed the part of the game where he pretends that's not the case and we all gloat until he gives up officially. :(

Going through a quick review of Han's D1, the main thing that stuck out to me was that he reallllly didn't like people buying ColZach. To the point he made a high effort post about people's opinions. He also didn't want to lynch Red end of day, but I haven't found why. He also said he wanted Panthera all day, but still just stuck to Donk (I think, no votals is hell)

Han posted...

People who voted ColZach:

IGCD
Death
Scare
Corrik
eaed

I think Zach was only at 5 votes before claiming?

Corrik: "PS: Anyone lynching an uncountered cop claim day 1 is bad. If he is lying, it works itself out... though he is claiming an extra kill also."
Leo: "Zach is probably Town"
Zam: "Yeah if there's a strong man you dead"
Chris: "I love when weak players get power."
Scare: "Pending on who flips scum can leave zach for now"
Scare: "So yeah zach is just town I don't need fo jump through hoops here with doubt"
Corrik: "Just be known,I am not sold at all you are town. But, I also ain't lynching no fucking cop claim day 1 unless someone counters it. So, you will figure yourself out."
Chris: "Feeling better now that zach will die for me."
Donker: "Is evry power and their grandma gonna claim today? Ffs"
Scare: "So I'm not voting the cop claim"

Then I showed up.

Donker still looks bad, but I think Chris looks the worst from this. Scare's reaction feels natural. Zam is worrisome, although I liked his claim. Corrik is null. Don't like that Leo said "probably".

Corrik unvoted Zach immediately.
Scare unvoted fast.
IGCD took awhile to unvote Zach, posting a few times before.
eaed hasn't posted since Zach's claim.
Death hasn't posted since Zach's claim.

Donker flipped town. Scare flipped Indie. Liked Zam because of his claim (?), Liked Chris the least, neutral on Corrik, doesn't like me either. Could be scum had some kind of risky plan to try and get people to paranoia lynch Zach. I still thinknewbie scum claiming vig/cop makes 0 sense, but if Zach had made a questionable shot and hit town power instead of an indie role scum maybe could have got something going.

On first blush, I like Chris better and Corrik less, because they had basically the same reaction of "snap town" and yet Corrik is merely a neutral opinion but Chris (and me) are scummy for it. I like Red and Panthera less for his end of day avoidance, although I will say Panthera's posts are indeed hilarious and I don't think scum tends to be that motivated to pre-write all that stuff.
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Too lazy to track down these posts, but I'm pretty sure my paraphrasing will be close enough.

Red said "Can we confirm that we aren't all jinjos" and a lot of people confirmed anti-Jinjo. Then once the whole game had more or less chimed in, he said "oops I wasn't thinking, there might be a role that cares about jinjos, my bad"

Han also said there might be a Banjo role hunting jinjos, which seems to be pretty close to the truth. I'm not exactly sure what to make of it all, but I think at the very least Han's suggests that the scum team had some kind of clue or hint about Scare's role. Not 100% Han and Red are connected, but it's possible.
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I'm bored. Someone hammer
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Nobody hammer, unless town losing is your goal.
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