Board 8 > Waluigi has been a playable character in 47 games.

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StealThisSheen
06/26/18 6:06:30 PM
#101:


Zigzagoon posted...
I will agree that there's the argument that all of this has started only because Waluigi was confirmed as an AT while characters like King K. Rool and Decidueye still have a chance at being playable. But the fact that Bomberman was even close to Waluigi (even ahead) in terms of people wanting him playable is actually probably the biggest thing.


Are you still referring to the same numbers you posted? Because you said that was before the Direct, so I'm not sure how Bomberman being an AT correlates.
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Underleveled
06/26/18 6:08:26 PM
#102:


StealThisSheen posted...
Zigzagoon posted...
I will agree that there's the argument that all of this has started only because Waluigi was confirmed as an AT while characters like King K. Rool and Decidueye still have a chance at being playable. But the fact that Bomberman was even close to Waluigi (even ahead) in terms of people wanting him playable is actually probably the biggest thing.


Are you still referring to the same numbers you posted? Because you said that was before the Direct, so I'm not sure how Bomberman being an AT correlates.

I THINK his argument is that Bomberman fans aren't being so vocal now that he is deconfirmed compared to Waluigi's.
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Zigzagoon
06/26/18 6:09:30 PM
#103:


StealThisSheen posted...
Zigzagoon posted...
I will agree that there's the argument that all of this has started only because Waluigi was confirmed as an AT while characters like King K. Rool and Decidueye still have a chance at being playable. But the fact that Bomberman was even close to Waluigi (even ahead) in terms of people wanting him playable is actually probably the biggest thing.


Are you still referring to the same numbers you posted? Because you said that was before the Direct, so I'm not sure how Bomberman being an AT correlates.

Yeah the same numbers. It correlates because Bomberman is also in the Waluigi camp of being an AT instead of playable.

So basically more people wanted Bomberman as a playable character than Waluigi and both of them are ATs.

Yeah the sample size isn't the biggest and with more people Waluigi could pull ahead, but the fact that they are even close at all says a decent amount.

What I'm getting at is where are all the Bomberman memes or all the people being upset that Bomberman is not playable and is only an AT?
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StealThisSheen
06/26/18 6:09:55 PM
#104:


Underleveled posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Zigzagoon posted...
I will agree that there's the argument that all of this has started only because Waluigi was confirmed as an AT while characters like King K. Rool and Decidueye still have a chance at being playable. But the fact that Bomberman was even close to Waluigi (even ahead) in terms of people wanting him playable is actually probably the biggest thing.


Are you still referring to the same numbers you posted? Because you said that was before the Direct, so I'm not sure how Bomberman being an AT correlates.

I THINK his argument is that Bomberman fans aren't being so vocal now that he is deconfirmed compared to Waluigi's.


Oh, that makes sense

Doesn't seem all that logical, though. Bomberman didn't seem likely to begin with, and Bomberman was never an AT before, so Bomberman fans don't have as much reason to be vocal. Waluigi had much higher chances to be playable than Bomberman had, and was one of the most likely to be upgraded from an AT to playable, so they have more reason to be vocal. Especially since Daisy was added.
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Zigzagoon
06/26/18 6:09:56 PM
#105:


Basically what dark said yeah
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Bane_Of_Despair
06/26/18 6:10:28 PM
#106:


I just think Waluigi wouldn't be that interesting compared to potential other characters but if they could make him as fun and whimsical as he's built up to be then sure why not
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Zigzagoon
06/26/18 6:11:48 PM
#107:


Why did Waluigi have much higher chances to be playable than Bomberman? The only thing that could really prove that is Sakurai specifically saying he wanted to have Waluigi as playable before but ran out of time or something like that. (IE. Geno)
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StealThisSheen
06/26/18 6:13:32 PM
#108:


Zigzagoon posted...
Why did Waluigi have much higher chances to be playable than Bomberman? The only thing that could really prove that is Sakurai specifically saying he wanted to have Waluigi as playable before but ran out of time or something like that. (IE. Geno)


Just literally by actually being a Nintendo character, for one

Also Super Bomberman R was announced for non-Nintendo systems not too long ago, which also should have made his chances seem less likely since it takes away the "He's in an exclusive Switch game" logic.
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ExThaNemesis
06/26/18 6:15:50 PM
#109:


Waluigi became my favorite Mario character after this piece of complete art

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9oVqRjUvqA" data-time="

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Zigzagoon
06/26/18 6:15:52 PM
#110:


If you want to argue that Waluigi would be next in line if they were to add a new Mario character. Then sure, that could be an argument, but Kirby had 0 new playables added from Brawl to Smash 4 so we can't always expect series to have new playable characters from them.
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StealThisSheen
06/26/18 6:17:37 PM
#111:


Zigzagoon posted...
If you want to argue that Waluigi would be next in line if they were to add a new Mario character. Then sure, that could be an argument, but Kirby had 0 new playables added from Brawl to Smash 4 so we can't always expect series to have new playable characters from them.


No, but that wasn't what I said.

I said that Waluigi logically would be perceived as more likely to get in than Bomberman.
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Zigzagoon
06/26/18 6:21:43 PM
#112:


Well I'll give you that then. Waluigi being playable was more logical than Bomberman sure.
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StealThisSheen
06/26/18 6:22:36 PM
#113:


That's mainly my argument. Waluigi fans have more reason to be vocal because they had more hope than Bomberman fans, and thus more likely to be disappointed.
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Zigzagoon
06/26/18 6:30:30 PM
#114:


I'm fine with that. The people who actually wanted Waluigi in from the start totally can be upset. Heck I get upset every smash when I don't get someone I love. The only thing I've been saying from the start is that the huge outburst of memes with him have made thousands and thousands of people want him to actually be playable rather than an AT when these numbers just did not exist before.

I'm not saying Waluigi wasn't requested at all, all I'm saying is that this outburst is making it seem like there was absolutely no question that he was by far the most requested character and the fact that he's not playable is the travesty of the year.
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Underleveled
06/26/18 6:32:32 PM
#115:


How many people are really even saying this? I saw this for like maybe 3 days after the announcement and then it ended.
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Zigzagoon
06/26/18 6:35:12 PM
#116:


At least half of the Smash Reddit was Waluigi topics for like a week. Even though they've died down in terms of topics, you can usually see some sort of Waluigi meme post in other topics that don't even have anything to do with him.

I still see many Waluigi meme pics and whatnot in the discord servers I'm in as well.
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LeonhartFour
06/26/18 7:03:27 PM
#117:


yeah I love Bomberman and I never would've expected him in a million years to be in a Smash Bros. game

the fact that he's in at all is pretty cool to me honestly
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ninkendo
06/26/18 9:42:44 PM
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HanOfTheNekos
06/26/18 10:14:59 PM
#119:


Waluigi is just some guy that Wario found so that he could annoy Mario and gang by bringing an uninvited person to the tennis games.

They've invited him to their gatherings ever since.
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Underleveled
06/26/18 10:26:59 PM
#120:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Waluigi is just some guy that Wario found so that he could annoy Mario and gang by bringing an uninvited person to the tennis games.

They've invited him to their gatherings ever since.

I actually like this story.
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digiiiiiiiii
06/26/18 10:31:24 PM
#121:


Zigzagoon posted...
I don't hate Waluigi and think a lot of the memes involving him are pretty funny. I'm not sure why you gathered that from what I've been saying.

I don't see hate anywhere in my post.
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CherryCokes
06/26/18 10:47:52 PM
#122:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
47 games
And I didn't play a single game from that list
Don't really care about Mario Party/Kart/Sports


sounds like you don't care about having a good time


Nanis23 posted...
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eaedwards6400
06/27/18 11:43:40 AM
#123:


Zigzagoon posted...
I was curious so I went to a topic on the Smash Ultimate boards to see what people's most requested newcomers were (Before the direct). Across around 80ish? posts these were some of the highest scorers.

King K. Rool 25
Ridley 16
Decidueye 14
Bandana Dee 14
Isaac 14
Bomberman 13
Waluigi 12
Rex / Pyra 9
Dixie 9
Banjo Kazooie 8
Geno 7
Captain Toad 7
Lyn 6

Note: There might be a couple others with slightly higher scores than the Geno/Toad group but nothing stood out that much.

Anyways, this illustrates my point fairly well. Waluigi does not make the top 5 and he even loses out to BOMBERMAN who was also confirmed as an assist trophy. Where's all the people whining about him not being playable?

Also I'm glad to see my boy Bandana Dee doing well among the fans!


There is a surprising lack of Goku
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AxemRedRanger
06/27/18 11:50:37 AM
#124:


Is Goku for Smash actually a popular thing or is that just Funimation and a few loud anime fans?
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Zigzagoon
06/27/18 11:54:02 AM
#125:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Zigzagoon posted...
I was curious so I went to a topic on the Smash Ultimate boards to see what people's most requested newcomers were (Before the direct). Across around 80ish? posts these were some of the highest scorers.

King K. Rool 25
Ridley 16
Decidueye 14
Bandana Dee 14
Isaac 14
Bomberman 13
Waluigi 12
Rex / Pyra 9
Dixie 9
Banjo Kazooie 8
Geno 7
Captain Toad 7
Lyn 6

Note: There might be a couple others with slightly higher scores than the Geno/Toad group but nothing stood out that much.

Anyways, this illustrates my point fairly well. Waluigi does not make the top 5 and he even loses out to BOMBERMAN who was also confirmed as an assist trophy. Where's all the people whining about him not being playable?

Also I'm glad to see my boy Bandana Dee doing well among the fans!


There is a surprising lack of Goku

I wasn't tracking Gokus but I don't think he was that high anyways.
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eaedwards6400
06/27/18 11:56:37 AM
#126:


AxemRedRanger posted...
Is Goku for Smash actually a popular thing or is that just Funimation and a few loud anime fans?


He's just one of those people that if he got added I think would blow people away kind of like when Cloud go added
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ninkendo
06/27/18 12:01:00 PM
#127:


I think it was because Namco helped develop the game and they have all the anime licenses so people figure they could make it work if they really wanted it to happen
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Zigzagoon
06/27/18 12:04:41 PM
#128:


I really hope they put Goku in but make him bottom tier
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Zigzagoon
06/27/18 12:05:33 PM
#129:


Though if any of the more recent DLC for Smash 4 is any indication of what new characters will be like... Goku would be topping the charts.
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eaedwards6400
06/27/18 2:53:36 PM
#130:


Idk, I feel like Cloud's hit range was much smaller that I thought it would be I anticipated him being closer to Ike.
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