Poll of the Day > PS1 vs N64 Survival: Final Fantasy VIII vs Goldeneye 007

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The rules are simple: The best of N64 vs the best of PS1. Each battle will have one victor, the winner survives and fights again until they are eliminated. Should be a good match up. Vote for whichever game you like best.

New Rule: If a combatant wins 5 rounds, it will take a 5 round rest.

Misfit Opinion: I never played goldeneye until last year. Obviously it doesn't hold up today, but I have to admit it did a lot for its genre and would have been a blast if I played it when it came out

N64
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Super Mario 64
The Legend of Zelda: Majoras Mask
Goldeneye 007

VS

PS1
Final Fantasy VII
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Metal Gear Solid
Resident Evil
Crash Bandicoot
Spyro the Dragon
Silent Hill
Chrono Cross
Xenogears
Tekken 3
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy VIII

Defeated:
Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories (PS1)
Bomberman 64 (N64)
Pilot Wings 64 (N64)
F-Zero X (N64)
Yoshi's Story (N64)
Harvest Moon 64 (N64)
Kirby 64 (N64)
Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber (N64)
Mario Golf (N64)
Pokemon Puzzle League (N64)
Pokemon Snap (N64)
Mario Tennis (N64)
Crash Team Racing (PS1)
Grand Theft Auto 2 (PS1)
Rayman (PS1)
Parasite Eve (PS1)
Diddy Kong Racing (N64)
Suikoden 2 (PS1)
Dragon Quest VII (PS1)
Dance Dance Revolution (PS1)
Conker's Bad Fur Day (N64)
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (N64)
Spyro: Year of the Dragon (PS1)
PaRappa the Rapper (PS1)
Donkey Kong 64 (N64)
Twisted Metal 2 (PS1)
Tomb Raider (PS1)
Dance Dance Revolution (PS1)
Banjo Kazooie (N64)
Star Fox 64 (N64)
Perfect Dark (N64)
Mario Party 2 (N64)
Paper Mario (N64)
Ape Escape (PS1)
Gran Turismo 2 (PS1)
Mario Kart 64 (N64)
Super Smash Bros. (N64)
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Goldeneye is the better game despite having aged much worse.
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I played this with cousins and friends all the time. We were even talking about this very recently at my shadowrun game. Im talking about Goldeneye 007, btw. That definitely gets my vote.
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Neither game is good, but FF VIII is better.

Outside of the super overhyped tier of FF 7 and OoT, Goldeneye has got to be one of the all-time most overrated games there ever was. It's not a good shooter at all, but it had a lot of charm and was the first console FPS game to really take off, so the nostalgia is thick.

Can't believe Smash lost its first round...

streamofthesky posted...

Outside of the super overhyped tier of FF 7 and OoT, Goldeneye has got to be one of the all-time most overrated games there ever was. It's not a good shooter at all, but it had a lot of charm and was the first console FPS game to really take off, so the nostalgia is thick.

I agree with this 100%. I'm glad I don't have nostalgia for it cause it was terrible even back when it was new.
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VIII by miles.
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Goldeneye 007 easily for me. I have tons of memories with that game whereas, once again, FF8 is in a genre I don't really care for.

AllstarSniper32 posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Outside of the super overhyped tier of FF 7 and OoT, Goldeneye has got to be one of the all-time most overrated games there ever was. It's not a good shooter at all, but it had a lot of charm and was the first console FPS game to really take off, so the nostalgia is thick.

I agree with this 100%. I'm glad I don't have nostalgia for it cause it was terrible even back when it was new.

You guys can just say you dont like it. Most people I knew had a lot of fun with the game. Which is kind of all that matters...
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ff8 may be bad but goldeneye is just unplayable trash. Quake 2 came out around the same time for god's sake.
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Damn N64 down to just 3 titles, though Ocarina of Time will probably sweep the remaining PS1 games since that game is tremendously over-hyped.
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i would like to play goldeneye with modern controls. thats the roughest thing about going back and replaying it

AllstarSniper32 posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Outside of the super overhyped tier of FF 7 and OoT, Goldeneye has got to be one of the all-time most overrated games there ever was. It's not a good shooter at all, but it had a lot of charm and was the first console FPS game to really take off, so the nostalgia is thick.

I agree with this 100%. I'm glad I don't have nostalgia for it cause it was terrible even back when it was new.

If it wasnt for GE, games like Halo and CoD probably wouldnt exist (though in coDs case, maybe that would be a good thing...)
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Wonder who would win
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TyVulpine posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Outside of the super overhyped tier of FF 7 and OoT, Goldeneye has got to be one of the all-time most overrated games there ever was. It's not a good shooter at all, but it had a lot of charm and was the first console FPS game to really take off, so the nostalgia is thick.

I agree with this 100%. I'm glad I don't have nostalgia for it cause it was terrible even back when it was new.

If it wasnt for GE, games like Halo and CoD probably wouldnt exist (though in coDs case, maybe that would be a good thing...)

Sure, this would be true if Goldeneye was the only FPS game ever.
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TheFalseDeity posted...

VIII by miles.

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VIII gets my vote, one of my favorite games ever
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goldeneye

was fun and actually had a comprehendable story.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

TyVulpine posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Outside of the super overhyped tier of FF 7 and OoT, Goldeneye has got to be one of the all-time most overrated games there ever was. It's not a good shooter at all, but it had a lot of charm and was the first console FPS game to really take off, so the nostalgia is thick.

I agree with this 100%. I'm glad I don't have nostalgia for it cause it was terrible even back when it was new.

If it wasnt for GE, games like Halo and CoD probably wouldnt exist (though in coDs case, maybe that would be a good thing...)

Sure, this would be true if Goldeneye was the only FPS game ever.

And if only it were true that GE was overrated, but it isnt. Its usually the Halo fanboys that claim it is, to support their own mediocre game.
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streamofthesky posted...

Neither game is good, but FF VIII is better.

Outside of the super overhyped tier of FF 7 and OoT, Goldeneye has got to be one of the all-time most overrated games there ever was. It's not a good shooter at all, but it had a lot of charm and was the first console FPS game to really take off, so the nostalgia is thick.

Can't believe Smash lost its first round...

Smash lost to FF8 XD.

Wow one of the worst FF games defeated a Game that has the most popular characters at the time.
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TyVulpine posted...

If it wasnt for GE, games like Halo and CoD probably wouldnt exist (though in coDs case, maybe that would be a good thing...)

GoldenEye was released in 1997.

Halo was the direct spiritual successor to the Marathon games, the first of which was released in 1994.

So hell fucking no.


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TyVulpine posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

TyVulpine posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Outside of the super overhyped tier of FF 7 and OoT, Goldeneye has got to be one of the all-time most overrated games there ever was. It's not a good shooter at all, but it had a lot of charm and was the first console FPS game to really take off, so the nostalgia is thick.

I agree with this 100%. I'm glad I don't have nostalgia for it cause it was terrible even back when it was new.

If it wasnt for GE, games like Halo and CoD probably wouldnt exist (though in coDs case, maybe that would be a good thing...)

Sure, this would be true if Goldeneye was the only FPS game ever.

And if only it were true that GE was overrated, but it isnt. Its usually the Halo fanboys that claim it is, to support their own mediocre game.

Yeah...the only Halo game I like is the first one. It's funny that you're calling other games mediocre when you're defending Goldeneye.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

TyVulpine posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

TyVulpine posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Outside of the super overhyped tier of FF 7 and OoT, Goldeneye has got to be one of the all-time most overrated games there ever was. It's not a good shooter at all, but it had a lot of charm and was the first console FPS game to really take off, so the nostalgia is thick.

I agree with this 100%. I'm glad I don't have nostalgia for it cause it was terrible even back when it was new.

If it wasnt for GE, games like Halo and CoD probably wouldnt exist (though in coDs case, maybe that would be a good thing...)

Sure, this would be true if Goldeneye was the only FPS game ever.

And if only it were true that GE was overrated, but it isnt. Its usually the Halo fanboys that claim it is, to support their own mediocre game.

Yeah...the only Halo game I like is the first one. It's funny that you're calling other games mediocre when you're defending Goldeneye.

Because GE is not overrated IMO. You may think it is and that's your opinion, but the MetaCritic score here on GFAQs is 96. So I'm not the only one that thinks GE is awesome. If you have a problem with that, that's your problem.
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FF8 is an adventure game with graphics that were not blocky like ff7 was. GE007 had multi player and unlockable cheat codes. The problem I had with FF8 was that Squalls leveling increases the level of the enemies. However I do like you draw magic from enemies and sometimes enemies are weak to the same magic you drew from them.
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TyVulpine posted...

Because GE is not overrated IMO. You may think it is and that's your opinion, but the MetaCritic score here on GFAQs is 96. So I'm not the only one that thinks GE is awesome. If you have a problem with that, that's your problem.

Cause in the history of video games there's never been games that aren't good that get good scores....
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

TyVulpine posted...

Because GE is not overrated IMO. You may think it is and that's your opinion, but the MetaCritic score here on GFAQs is 96. So I'm not the only one that thinks GE is awesome. If you have a problem with that, that's your problem.

Cause in the history of video games there's never been games that aren't good that get good scores....

Sure. But you're just saying it wasn't good game because you didn't like. But lots of other people actually liked it and wouldn't think it's overrated. It's a good game that some people just didn't like.
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LinkPizza posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

TyVulpine posted...

Because GE is not overrated IMO. You may think it is and that's your opinion, but the MetaCritic score here on GFAQs is 96. So I'm not the only one that thinks GE is awesome. If you have a problem with that, that's your problem.

Cause in the history of video games there's never been games that aren't good that get good scores....

Sure. But you're just saying it wasn't good game because you didn't like. But lots of other people actually liked it and wouldn't think it's overrated. It's a good game that some people just didn't like.

Uhm no, I said it's not a good game cause it's not. Not because I don't like it.
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RFC22 posted...

Wow one of the worst FF games defeated a Game that has the most popular characters at the time.

It's just a fighting game though.

FF8 was the first FF game I bought. It was fun for a while. Smash is only fun with multiplayer due to its limited characters. Theres more to do in FF8. The single player mode gets tedious.
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TyVulpine posted...

Because GE is not overrated IMO. You may think it is and that's your opinion, but the MetaCritic score here on GFAQs is 96.

MetaCritic is a score aggregator, not really an objective measure of quality (or even an objective measure of popularity, because of the quirks of how aggregators work).

If anything, having a score of 96 really only supports the argument that it's overrated (literally).


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AllstarSniper32 posted...

TyVulpine posted...

Because GE is not overrated IMO. You may think it is and that's your opinion, but the MetaCritic score here on GFAQs is 96. So I'm not the only one that thinks GE is awesome. If you have a problem with that, that's your problem.

Cause in the history of video games there's never been games that aren't good that get good scores....

Except for "Breath of the Wild".
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

TyVulpine posted...

Because GE is not overrated IMO. You may think it is and that's your opinion, but the MetaCritic score here on GFAQs is 96. So I'm not the only one that thinks GE is awesome. If you have a problem with that, that's your problem.

Cause in the history of video games there's never been games that aren't good that get good scores....

Sure. But you're just saying it wasn't good game because you didn't like. But lots of other people actually liked it and wouldn't think it's overrated. It's a good game that some people just didn't like.

Uhm no, I said it's not a good game cause it's not. Not because I don't like it.

But what makes it a bad game. Everyone I knew and even people i rarely know said they had fun with it. They have fond memories of playing it with family/friends. So, what exactly makes it a bad game. Because if people had fun, thats all that matters. Thats the point of a game...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

TyVulpine posted...

Because GE is not overrated IMO. You may think it is and that's your opinion, but the MetaCritic score here on GFAQs is 96. So I'm not the only one that thinks GE is awesome. If you have a problem with that, that's your problem.

Cause in the history of video games there's never been games that aren't good that get good scores....

There a re also good games that get good scores, too...
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I had fun painting the fence with friends when I was a kid. Painting the fence is not that fun by itself. You have to be blinded by nostalgia to find GE good. It looks terrible and controls even worse. People like to give it so much credit when it comes to console fps but it was twin sticks that made the console fps. Even without GE people would find a way to utilize twin sticks to mimic mouse and keyboard.
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LinkPizza posted...

But what makes it a bad game. Everyone I knew and even people i rarely know said they had fun with it. They have fond memories of playing it with family/friends. So, what exactly makes it a bad game. Because if people had fun, thats all that matters. Thats the point of a game...

I don't really want to explain the bad parts of it.

And yes, I have some fond memories of playing it with friends, but even with that I can tell it's not a great game.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

But what makes it a bad game. Everyone I knew and even people i rarely know said they had fun with it. They have fond memories of playing it with family/friends. So, what exactly makes it a bad game. Because if people had fun, thats all that matters. Thats the point of a game...

I don't really want to explain the bad parts of it.

And yes, I have some fond memories of playing it with friends, but even with that I can tell it's not a great game.

Well, that explains nothing. The whole point of a video game is to have fun. So, as long as people had fun, the game is most likely good. It doesnt matter if it aged well, or made sense, or anything. If you had fun while playing the game, it did its job. And I dont hear many people say that it wasnt fun. Or that they didnt like it. That sounds like it was a good game, then...
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LinkPizza posted...

Well, that explains nothing. The whole point of a video game is to have fun. So, as long as people had fun, the game is most likely good. It doesnt matter if it aged well, or made sense, or anything. If you had fun while playing the game, it did its job. And I dont hear many people say that it wasnt fun. Or that they didnt like it. That sounds like it was a good game, then...

You're assuming having fond memories means I also had fun while playing it. And no, just cause a game is fun, doesn't mean it's a good game. But if you have that low of standards, power to you.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Well, that explains nothing. The whole point of a video game is to have fun. So, as long as people had fun, the game is most likely good. It doesnt matter if it aged well, or made sense, or anything. If you had fun while playing the game, it did its job. And I dont hear many people say that it wasnt fun. Or that they didnt like it. That sounds like it was a good game, then...

You're assuming having fond memories means I also had fun while playing it. And no, just cause a game is fun, doesn't mean it's a good game. But if you have that low of standards, power to you.

Then what makes a game a good game? Because I assumed if a game was fun, that was good. Mostly because it did what it was suppose to. I dont understand how thats a low standard... It doesnt mean it has to be fun for everybody, but for most people. So, then what makes a good game. Why buy a good game if its not for fun? Also, I didnt assume you had fun. I said people I talked to had fond memories. And always talked about how much fun they had with the people around at the time while playing it.
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fun =/= good

fun = fun
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

fun =/= good

fun = fun

Then what makes a good game? And what makes this one bad?
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LinkPizza posted...

Then what makes a good game? And what makes this one bad?

AllstarSniper32 posted...

I don't really want to explain the bad parts of it.

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AllstarSniper32 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Then what makes a good game? And what makes this one bad?

AllstarSniper32 posted...

I don't really want to explain the bad parts of it.

I saw that. But I cant accept it bad just because you and a few others say it is. Especially when most people that I ever talk to about it love it. It just sounds like you one of the people who hate something because its popular...
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

But what makes it a bad game. Everyone I knew and even people i rarely know said they had fun with it. They have fond memories of playing it with family/friends. So, what exactly makes it a bad game. Because if people had fun, thats all that matters. Thats the point of a game...

I don't really want to explain the bad parts of it.

Of course you don't.
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LinkPizza posted...

It just sounds like you one of the people who hate something because its popular...

You sound like someone who thinks everyone has to like something just because you and "all the people you know" like it.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

It just sounds like you one of the people who hate something because its popular...

You sound like someone who thinks everyone has to like something just because you and "all the people you know" like it.

Wrong. Because I literally said that not everybody has to like it. But I never really hear people complain about. That is true. But its not just people I know, btw...
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VeeVees posted...

I had fun painting the fence with friends when I was a kid. Painting the fence is not that fun by itself. You have to be blinded by nostalgia to find GE good. It looks terrible and controls even worse. People like to give it so much credit when it comes to console fps but it was twin sticks that made the console fps. Even without GE people would find a way to utilize twin sticks to mimic mouse and keyboard.

Seriously controls even worse?? Its not the controls. Controls are spot-on, and theres even auto-aim.

Metal_Mario99 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

But what makes it a bad game. Everyone I knew and even people i rarely know said they had fun with it. They have fond memories of playing it with family/friends. So, what exactly makes it a bad game. Because if people had fun, thats all that matters. Thats the point of a game...

I don't really want to explain the bad parts of it.

Of course you don't.

Its bad because I said so! seems to be all the proof they think they need.
Anyone that says it is bad has probably never tried speedrunning it or done LTK/DLTK.
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TyVulpine posted...

Anyone that says it is bad has probably never tried speedrunning it or done LTK/DLTK.

If I did any of those things, I'd probably badmouth it worse.


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

TyVulpine posted...

Anyone that says it is bad has probably never tried speedrunning it or done LTK/DLTK.

If I did any of those things, I'd probably badmouth it worse.

Probably because you would suck at it and blame the game instead of yourself? Thats okay, go ahead and blame the game instead of accepting reality.
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TyVulpine posted...

Seriously controls even worse?? Its not the controls. Controls are spot-on, and theres even auto-aim.

LMFAO
Every control scheme was complete shit, and that's on top of a garbage controller. Pretty much every PC FPS that came out around the same time was just flat out better.
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VeeVees posted...

TyVulpine posted...

Seriously controls even worse?? Its not the controls. Controls are spot-on, and theres even auto-aim.

LMFAO
Every control scheme was complete shit, and that's on top of a garbage controller. Pretty much every PC FPS that came out around the same time was just flat out better.

Yeah, no. Its not the controls, its you. Funny how even the speedrunners dont have issues with the controls. But hey, keep going, you are making me laugh.
But it is a shame how some people just have no respect for classics.
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Goldeneye. FFVIII is a crap story.
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LOL, only a fanboy completely blinded by nostalgia would defend that primitive shit ass control. And using speedrunners as a defense is just laughable. Speedrunners can work with superman 64 controls. I guess that game controls fine too.
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