Poll of the Day > I miss carbs

(+) Yeah! (+)

I just want a pancake, or a potato, or even just a sandwich.
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Why aren't you eating carbs?
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I am trying the keto diet. It is working well so far, but it is hard to keep the food varied.
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Keto isn't for everyone. I've always hated how there's zero room for good sweet stuff in that diet (you can get some gross low carb desserts but blegh). I personally can't function in ketosis- any sort of job or study that requires brainpower doesn't mix well with this diet.
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Fad diets are bullshit.

Eat a healthy balanced diet, and balanced includes healthy carbs, and you will lose the weight.

Potatoes are not bad for you. Eating one potato is not going to make you fat. What makes you fat is when you overload it with a ton of toppings. The toppings are what turns a healthy 150 calorie potato into a very unhealthy 1,000 calorie potato.

I used to miss carbs, but now that I know how to work with it, fuel injection is much more versatile, tuneable, and reliable.
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dancer62 wrote:

I used to miss carbs, but now that I know how to work with it, fuel injection is much more versatile, tuneable, and reliable.

That's the same thing that I thought when I saw the topic title ^.~
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I couldn't do it. I love bread. A couple of my friends had success with it. I just cut back on sodas and started lifting weights.
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slacker03150 posted...

I am trying the keto diet. It is working well so far, but it is hard to keep the food varied.

Shit's tough, but the gains are strong so keep that in mind.
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JanwayDaahl posted...

Keto isn't for everyone. I've always hated how there's zero room for good sweet stuff in that diet (you can get some gross low carb desserts but blegh). I personally can't function in ketosis- any sort of job or study that requires brainpower doesn't mix well with this diet.

The loss of sweets isn't too big of a deal, although it is ice cream season. It's all the other stuff.

rogerskg1979 posted...

Fad diets are bullshit.

Eat a healthy balanced diet, and balanced includes healthy carbs, and you will lose the weight.

Potatoes are not bad for you. Eating one potato is not going to make you fat. What makes you fat is when you overload it with a ton of toppings. The toppings are what turns a healthy 150 calorie potato into a very unhealthy 1,000 calorie potato.

I actually don't like my potatoes with too many toppings. Just a pad of butter.

It is probably not the healthiest way to lose weight, but it is working so far, it is not something I would do long term though.

TheCyborgNinja posted...

I couldn't do it. I love bread. A couple of my friends had success with it. I just cut back on sodas and started lifting weights.

I average one soda every 3 months for the last 2 years and I have picked up biking. They helped, but not getting to where I want.
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slacker03150 posted...

It is probably not the healthiest way to lose weight, but it is working so far, it is not something I would do long term though.

Then stop now. When you get off keto you are going to gain that weight back and slow your metabolism.

It's just not worth it.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

slacker03150 posted...

It is probably not the healthiest way to lose weight, but it is working so far, it is not something I would do long term though.

Then stop now. When you get off keto you are going to gain that weight back and slow your metabolism.

It's just not worth it.

Fuck off, you know fuck all about keto.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

slacker03150 posted...

It is probably not the healthiest way to lose weight, but it is working so far, it is not something I would do long term though.

Then stop now. When you get off keto you are going to gain that weight back and slow your metabolism.

It's just not worth it.

Fuck off, you know fuck all about keto.

I did keto successfully twice. The overemphasis and gluttony of animal products within that diet was so disgusting I gave them up entirely. Doctors saying it's not healthy or recommended cemented that.

When you stop keto that weight lost comes right back and your insulin resistance can get messed up
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

slacker03150 posted...

It is probably not the healthiest way to lose weight, but it is working so far, it is not something I would do long term though.

Then stop now. When you get off keto you are going to gain that weight back and slow your metabolism.

It's just not worth it.

Fuck off, you know fuck all about keto.

I did keto successfully twice. The overemphasis and gluttony of animal products within that diet was so disgusting I gave them up entirely. Doctors saying it's not healthy or recommended cemented that.

When you stop keto that weight lost comes right back and your insulin resistance can get messed up

Remember that time you dumped citations that actually supported keto because you know so damn little? And how you didn't reference doing keto prior, only conveniently now to try BS some more "evidence"?

Vegan, gtfo with that propaganda.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Remember that time you dumped citations that actually supported keto because you know so damn little? And how you didn't reference doing keto prior, only conveniently now to try BS some more "evidence"?

Keto was a large part of what pushed me to go vegan, it's so nasty. I've mentioned it before in other topics if not in that topic. It's not evidence it's my anecdotes. I have actual experiences with that diet.

You've misremembered the articles. You dismissed them as not "real keto" when the results did not support the diet as healthy or sustainable for weight loss long term.
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Damn, vegans really trigger Kyuubi.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Remember that time you dumped citations that actually supported keto because you know so damn little? And how you didn't reference doing keto prior, only conveniently now to try BS some more "evidence"?

Keto was a large part of what pushed me to go vegan, it's so nasty. I've mentioned it before in other topics if not in that topic. It's not evidence it's my anecdotes. I have actual experiences with that diet.

You've misremembered the articles. You dismissed them as not "real keto" when the results did not support the diet as healthy or sustainable for weight loss long term.

Literally said eating lots of carbs was keto, that was blatantly false and if that's the shit you were doing, I'm not surprised you chugged the weight back on.

But let's be serious, a person who's aggressive about vegan ethics isn't going to be somebody who ever actually done keto.

Again, begone Vegan.
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Sarcasthma posted...

Damn, vegans really trigger Kyuubi.

Fuckin' scamming idiots trigger me.
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I'll pray for you.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Then stop now. When you get off keto you are going to gain that weight back and slow your metabolism.

It's just not worth it.

If my health and gym class knowledge holds up the reason people gain it all back is a combination of some muscle loss which slows the metabolism and not actually fixing their eating habits, so they eat like they are still at their heavier weights and they gain it right back.

This can be combated by slowly increasing your calories to their new level and doing some muscle building while eating carbs and protiens to gain muscle.

Doctor Foxx posted...

When you stop keto that weight lost comes right back and your insulin resistance can get messed up

I have read a lot of negatives of keto, but that one never came up. Source?
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Literally said eating lots of carbs was keto, that was blatantly false and if that's the shit you were doing, I'm not surprised you chugged the weight back on.

But let's be serious, a person who's aggressive about vegan ethics isn't going to be somebody who ever actually done keto.

Again, begone Vegan.

I did keto for a while and seeing how wasteful it was sparked the action for me to give it up entirely. No one needs to eat as many animal products as this diet promotes. It's an environmental and health disaster. It was realizing how poorly aligned that diet was to my values that pushed me over.

Under 50 grams of carbs a day is considered a low carbohydrate diet. You can do keto with up to 50 a day. I understand the range is usually under 25 and that's what my personal macros were at. It's untenable to eat that way for life. As soon as you go over the weight comes back.

No one that practices vegan can continue keto. Plenty of people have done keto and wised up about the negative environmental impact that diet has. Some people are capable of reflection and personal growth. Don't worry, you might get there!

slacker03150 posted...

I have read a lot of negatives of keto, but that one never came up. Source?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2980360/

In conclusion, the present study shows that a high-fat KD causes hepatic insulin resistance in mice, which can be attributed to an increase in hepatic DAG content, leading to PKC activation and subsequent impaired insulin signaling. Moreover, this study found that a KD increases energy expenditure, which results in weight loss. Given the widespread use of KD in the treatment of obesity and the role of NAFLD and hepatic insulin resistance in promoting type 2 diabetes, these results may have important clinical implications, as obese patients on such diets could lose weight but develop NAFLD and hepatic insulin resistance.

The good thing is it does seem to reverse itself over time, but it does mean that yes your insulin resistance gets fucked up and you will put that weight right back on

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/keto-diet-is-gaining-popularity-but-is-it-safe-121914

Sarcasthma posted...

Damn, vegans really trigger Kyuubi.

https://imgur.com/fB4HcRe
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slacker03150 posted...

If my health and gym class knowledge holds up the reason people gain it all back is a combination of some muscle loss which slows the metabolism and not actually fixing their eating habits, so they eat like they are still at their heavier weights and they gain it right back.

This can be combated by slowly increasing your calories to their new level and doing some muscle building while eating carbs and protiens to gain muscle.

Most of the initial weight lost on keto is not fat. It's water weight and the glycogen in your muscles, as well as muscle loss. When you have the carbohydrates in your diet to replace your body's fuel reserves that puts on a large amount of weight quickly. We're talking 15 or 20 pounds for a person would be a typical range.

People may also continue to overeat and put on weight after that.

More studies are being done that are suggesting that high carb low fat diet are great for athletic performance, overall health, weight loss, and sustainability.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5384055/

Long-term LCHF diets appear to be safe and may even improve several metabolic risk factors for chronic diseases in the general population. LCHF diets provide a promising way to help control body weight and fat mass while maintaining lean body mass in athletes engaged in weight-sensitive sports. There is emerging evidence that LCHF diets could be beneficial, particularly for performance in ultra-endurance sports. Their effect on field-based sports that require repeated high-intensity activities is also promising. It appears that at least several months of adaptation to a LCHF diet are required for the metabolic changes and restoration of muscle glycogen to occur.

So eat your potatoes. Just don't add the butter!
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Under 50 grams of carbs a day is considered a low carbohydrate diet. You can do keto with up to 50 a day. I understand the range is usually under 25 and that's what my personal macros were at. It's untenable to eat that way for life. As soon as you go over the weight comes back.

Keto isn't 50gs.
I do keto long term without being obese like you.
Fuckin' citation needed.

Doctor Foxx posted...

No one that practices vegan can continue keto.

You don't recover from brain damage.

Doctor Foxx posted...

obese patients on such diets could lose weight but develop NAFLD and hepatic insulin resistance.

* post diet

Obese people can't be trusted to not chug fructose, shocker.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Most of the initial weight lost on keto is not fat. It's water weight and the glycogen in your muscles, as well as muscle loss. When you have the carbohydrates in your diet to replace your body's fuel reserves that puts on a large amount of weight quickly. We're talking 15 or 20 pounds for a person would be a typical range.

The point of keto is to run on ketones so you obviously missed the fucking point.

Doctor Foxx posted...

People may also continue to overeat and put on weight after that.

Welcome to fat fuckers eat cake 101.

Doctor Foxx posted...

More studies are being done that are suggesting that high carb low fat diet are great for athletic performance, overall health, weight loss, and sustainability.

Electrolyte drinks are also good for athletes, but you are not an athlete and such diets and drinks lead to excessive sugar and salt intake which doctors blame for virtually every dietary illness.
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I mean, a little butter is probably ok. But probably not a lot. And my too many times since youre trying to diet, I guess. Haha. But Idk because I dont ever diet. I have a fast metabolism... too fast, sometimes...
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I'm down 35 pounds on keto since the year started and I've been cheating like crazy and barely gained a pound back
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slacker03150 posted...

It is probably not the healthiest way to lose weight, but it is working so far, it is not something I would do long term though.

And that's where you're going to fail.

Short term thinking = failure
Long term thinking = success

A lot of people think of a diet as a short term fix. It's not. People who only think of the short term are just going to gain the weight back once they stop the diet and go back to their unhealthy ways. Permanent weight loss comes from making a permanent lifestyle change. There is no short term. You have to keep it up forever by completely changing your lifestyle forever.

I tried eating only almonds for a couple days so that I can lose weight and that shit is brutal on your asshole!!!! lol the amount of fiber almonds have is crazy. So just imagine having that feeling of needing to take a fat dump but only almond crumbs explode out. Dont know how all these Keto people take dumps but for me it was too much lol.
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solid_kush posted...

I tried eating only almonds for a couple days so that I can lose weight and that shit is brutal on your asshole!!!! lol the amount of fiber almonds have is crazy. So just imagine having that feeling of needing to take a fat dump but only almond crumbs explode out. Dont know how all these Keto people take dumps but for me it was too much lol.

Well, your first mistake was eating nothing but almonds for a day. That's as dumb as eating nothing but ice cream for a day.

Balanced diet, people. A balanced diet is the key to permanent success. Fad diets, detox diets, etc are bullshit and won't lead to permanent weight loss since they're not sustainable long term.

rogerskg1979 posted...

solid_kush posted...

I tried eating only almonds for a couple days so that I can lose weight and that shit is brutal on your asshole!!!! lol the amount of fiber almonds have is crazy. So just imagine having that feeling of needing to take a fat dump but only almond crumbs explode out. Dont know how all these Keto people take dumps but for me it was too much lol.

Well, your first mistake was eating nothing but almonds for a day. That's as dumb as eating nothing but ice cream for a day.

Balanced diet, people. A balanced diet is the key to permanent success. Fad diets, detox diets, etc are bullshit and won't lead to permanent weight loss since they're not sustainable long term.

Yea I guess youre right. Now I just eat less, nothing greasy loaded with carbs and exercise. Seem to lose weight just fine without having to torture myself with some extreme diet.
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I've started a keto diet as well, but after some research I think cyclical keto better suits my needs since I work out a lot
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joemodda posted...

I've started a keto diet as well, but after some research I think cyclical keto better suits my needs since I work out a lot

Good luck!

rogerskg1979 posted...

And that's where you're going to fail

I am going to choose to think positively, but thank you for the advice.

Doctor Foxx posted...

We're talking 15 or 20 pounds for a person would be a typical range

I am expecting about a 15 pound bump. But I have a scale that measures weight, bmi, fat, visceral fat, muscle, bone, hydration, and estimates the calories you need in a day. So I will be watching that closely while introducing carbs back in.

I am drinking more water to keep the hydration up, but it is still lower than it was pre diet, so I am expecting some from that, but I have lost both percent body fat and visceral fat, so yay.
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Damn anorexics and their fad diets, exercise and eat healthy ya lazy bums
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

slacker03150 posted...

It is probably not the healthiest way to lose weight, but it is working so far, it is not something I would do long term though.

Then stop now. When you get off keto you are going to gain that weight back and slow your metabolism.

It's just not worth it.

Fuck off, you know fuck all about keto.

I did keto successfully twice. The overemphasis and gluttony of animal products within that diet was so disgusting I gave them up entirely. Doctors saying it's not healthy or recommended cemented that.

When you stop keto that weight lost comes right back and your insulin resistance can get messed up

fox looking down on meat once again.
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You do want some carbs. A juice before work and some starches before bed is fine.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

slacker03150 posted...

It is probably not the healthiest way to lose weight, but it is working so far, it is not something I would do long term though.

Then stop now. When you get off keto you are going to gain that weight back and slow your metabolism.

It's just not worth it.

Fuck off, you know fuck all about keto.

I did keto successfully twice. The overemphasis and gluttony of animal products within that diet was so disgusting I gave them up entirely. Doctors saying it's not healthy or recommended cemented that.

When you stop keto that weight lost comes right back and your insulin resistance can get messed up

fox looking down on meat once again.

I guess that makes sense. She is vegan...
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