Poll of the Day > California Voters will decide this fall if it should be THREE STATES!!!

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A Vote to divide California into THREE STATES will be put to the voters in November's Mid-Term elections after securing enough signtuares to be put on the ballot!!

The proposal was started by billionaire venture capitalist, 59 y/o Tim Draper who made his fortune as an investor of Skype and Hotmail and launched the "Cal 3" ballot that will now be put to the voters this Fall

With this, the central state of California would consist of counties of LA, Ventura, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Monterey and San Benito while the southern state would have Orange County, Riverside, San Bernadino, San Diego, Imperial, Kern, Kings, Fresno, Tulare, Inyo, Madera and Mono while the North would have 40 counties from Santa Cruz to the Oregon Border including San Fran, Sacramento.

But even if the voters approve, Congress and Senate would still have the final say to go ahead.

California's economy has overtaken that of the UK to become the world's 5th largest economy with 39 million people, more than the entire population of Canada

The GDP rose to 127 billion, surpassing 2.7 trillion driven by strong productivity.

Draper insists California would allow regional communities to make better and more sensible decisions such as schools, taxes and deteriorating infrastructure. This would resemble that of the Dakotas, Carolinas and Virginias

He said this unprecedented show of support of every corner of California to create 3 states has gotten bigger for better representation and reliability and regional identity

This isn't the first time that Draper tried to split California as he unsuccessfully tried for 6 states back in 2013

Robert Preston put forward of splitting California into Two because the state became "ungovernable" because of high taxes as it splits between city and rural.

If California splits, this would also make it harder for Democrats to ever make it into office as it's a solid Democratic State that they can count on for 55 electoral college votes and a split would lower their chances. The Southern Half of California is reliably Republican and would also give Republicans an easier path to victory in a election..

Texas remains the only state in the US to have never gone Democrat

Would you vote California to be split?

New California proposal -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/13/12/4D2EE1FF00000578-5839143-image-a-17_1528890513732.jpg

Draper -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/13/12/4D2E93E700000578-5839143-image-m-19_1528890993270.jpg

Preston -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/13/12/4D2E905C00000578-5839143-image-a-20_1528891124964.jpg
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bro you're late; there's already a fucking topic about this

Full Throttle posted...

Texas remains the only state in the US to have never gone Democrat

I respect those convictions.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Full Throttle posted...

Texas remains the only state in the US to have never gone Democrat

I respect those convictions.

1968 election, it went to incumbent Vice President Democrat Hubert Humphrey....
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It'll never happen but it's kind of cool to think about. I've always hoped that NY would vote to chop off Long Island and let it be its own state.
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What a moron, ok?
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TyVulpine posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Full Throttle posted...

Texas remains the only state in the US to have never gone Democrat

I respect those convictions.

1968 election, it went to incumbent Democrat Vice President Hubert Humphrey....

And for Jimmy Carter in 1976. Not to mention that it went Democrat for the first 18 Presidential elections in was a part of and 23 of its first 24. It's actually voted Democrat almost twice as many times as it's voted Republican at 27 to 14.
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Northern California is more Republican really. Were upset that Moonbeam Jerry Brown is sending our water down there and basically only catering to their every want.
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Northern California is more Republican really. Were upset that Moonbeam Jerry Brown is sending our water down there and basically only catering to their every want.

But the way that split looks, Northen California would include San Francisco, so it could potentially still be Democrat. I don't support a split because that just means more Democrats in Congress.
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New California is better than this. This is more of a middle ground, which may not solve all of California's issues. We'll have to see.
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Northern California is more Republican really. Were upset that Moonbeam Jerry Brown is sending our water down there and basically only catering to their every want.

Are the streets also littered with shit and is it legal to knowingly give people STDs there as well?
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Look at the map of how they want to split the state then look at a map of Hispanic population percentage in the state. It's an attempt by the Democrats and Republicans to not only separate themselves from one another but an attempt by both to get rid of the illegal immigrant tax burden.

I'm in favor of it given California's size leads to poor representation. It's never going to happen, though, and American schoolkids have a hard enough time remembering 50 states.
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Zeus posted...

I'm in favor of it given California's size leads to poor representation. It's never going to happen, though, and American schoolkids have a hard enough time remembering 50 states.

No one cares, ok?
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I'll suport it but only if they split Texas too...
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C'mon duckbear, this is like the 10th topic about this...

I wonder how this would effect the number of seats each party holds in congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Current_composition_and_election_results
According to this California has 2 seats going to the democrats. Someone must have thought that by splitting California it would mean more democrat representatives.

http://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-political-geography/
However looking at this it appears liberal ideology is concentrated along the coast, especial in the north. While conservatism is much stronger throughout.

Conclusion:
This change might result in pushing the democratic party to become more moderate, if not outright free the new states to lean republican.
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The us should split into like 5 countries.
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Yes. The majority of the state, geographically has a very different set of needs and ideals than the most densely-populated areas of So. Cal, and many people there, especially farmers feel like their needs are glossed over by metropolitan elitism and the like.
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VeeVees posted...

The us should split into like 5 countries.

This, really.

Form the United Nation-States of America.
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make each state it's own nation and let's see what happens

if all states were represented equally
the nation would be pretty obtuse