Poll of the Day > Only 26% of Americans believe Kim Jung Un will DISARM HIS NUKES!! Do you???

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Just over half of Americans say they approve of Trump's handling of North Korea but only 26% believe North Korea would actually get rid of their nukes after this week where the President said he TRUSTS that Un will get rid of his nukes after signing a declaration that he will "work towards denuclearization"

The Reuters/Ipsos poll showed that 40% of those said they did not believe the countries would stick to their comittments while another 26% said that he would and 34% said they don't know whether he would follow through

39% said they believe the summit has lowered the threat of a nuclear war while 37% said nothing has changed.

Trump hailed the meeting as a success which is a sharp contrast in the past where they had a tit for tat insults from rocket man to dotard comments.

Trump said that Kim Jung Un is a "talented" and "great" man who truly loves his people as he vowed to stop the "expensive" military drills in south korea which has South Korea and Japan worried about the drills ending and american presence leaving the country. He also said these drills will SAVE america a lot of money as he works to cut more government spending to pay for his expensive tax cut bill and border wall..

Do you trust Kim Jung Un?

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Considering that Kim more or less begged and pleaded for Donald Trump to go to his summit, when he threatened to cancel it...

No of course he won't, things are just going to carry on business as usual, because Trump is a fucking pushover when it comes right down to it.
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I don't know what to believe at this juncture although I hope for the best.

papercup posted...

No of course he won't, things are just going to carry on business as usual, because Trump is a fucking pushover when it comes right down to it.

I expect that he'll at least make token gestures to drag out this process for the benefits. And, quite frankly, getting them to the table might help move the ball in the right direction regardless.
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Kim realizes that the nukes don't serve him any good anymore. his only hope is to appease the world. also, rumor is their nuke program is ruined. some kind of accident killed a bunch of scientists and blew up a facility. and it would cost too much money to restart. they are fucked. that's why they are giving up

Easy to disarm your nukes when they don't actually work to begin with.
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papercup posted...

No of course he won't, things are just going to carry on business as usual, because Trump is a fucking pushover when it comes right down to it.

Trump is not a pushover.

This guy however, is.

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Unless Kim wants the "Libya solution" that professional idiot John Bolton offered NK, he's gonna hold onto the nukes.

Trump is a fucking idiot he gave them no timetable for denuclearization he will be long out of office by the time they ever did get rid of them and the next president will just tear the deal up
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streamofthesky posted...

he's gonna hold onto the nukes.

nukes that don't work and no money to repair them. read my post above

Zikten posted...

Kim realizes that the nukes don't serve him any good anymore. his only hope is to appease the world. also, rumor is their nuke program is ruined. some kind of accident killed a bunch of scientists and blew up a facility. and it would cost too much money to restart. they are fucked. that's why they are giving up

Yeah, I don't remember where i read it though.
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Zikten posted...

streamofthesky posted...

he's gonna hold onto the nukes.

nukes that don't work and no money to repair them. read my post above

Even if that's true, why would he give them up?
Smarter to just act like he's being peaceful now, but insist on keeping the stockpile. He just won't do any testing now in return for some trade/relief. Then at least other countries can't be sure they don't work and he keeps the lie alive. Makes others think twice about taking military action against him.

I don't think Kim Jong Un SHOULD disarm his nukes. I think that he should fight US imperialist aggression.

I'd trust Kim before I'd ever trust Trump. And I don't trust Kim any further than I can see him.
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TyVulpine posted...

I'd trust Kim before I'd ever trust Trump. And I don't trust Kim any further than I can see him.

As crazy as this is lol I agree hahaha but mainly because trump just loses interest, like a cat.
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I trust Kim over Justin Trudeau

This shit wouldn't happen for a decade or more anyway who cares

This should be about him being a horrible dictator and not understanding human rights.

SpeeDLeemon posted...

This shit wouldn't happen for a decade or more anyway who cares

This should be about him being a horrible dictator and not understanding human rights.

Are you talking about Kim or Trump?
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Ha!

Everybody should disarm their nukes

streamofthesky posted...

Unless Kim wants the "Libya solution" that professional idiot John Bolton offered NK, he's gonna hold onto the nukes.

Again, I should point out that Libya disarmed long before the upheaval and the threat of nukes would have likely done little to stop the upheaval (other than possibly discouraging outsiders from provoking it)

streamofthesky posted...

Even if that's true, why would he give them up?
Smarter to just act like he's being peaceful now, but insist on keeping the stockpile. He just won't do any testing now in return for some trade/relief. Then at least other countries can't be sure they don't work and he keeps the lie alive. Makes others think twice about taking military action against him.

If we can convince him to discontinue further activity, that's a huge net win.

TyVulpine posted...

I'd trust Kim before I'd ever trust Trump. And I don't trust Kim any further than I can see him.

SpeeDLeemon posted...

This shit wouldn't happen for a decade or more anyway who cares

This should be about him being a horrible dictator and not understanding human rights.

One battle at a time.
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TyVulpine posted...

SpeeDLeemon posted...

This shit wouldn't happen for a decade or more anyway who cares

This should be about him being a horrible dictator and not understanding human rights.

Are you talking about Kim or Trump?

ZING!
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Zeus posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Unless Kim wants the "Libya solution" that professional idiot John Bolton offered NK, he's gonna hold onto the nukes.

Again, I should point out that Libya disarmed long before the upheaval and the threat of nukes would have likely done little to stop the upheaval (other than possibly discouraging outsiders from provoking it)

Well yeah, just keeping outside nations from getting involved at all is a pretty major consideration.

Zeus posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Even if that's true, why would he give them up?
Smarter to just act like he's being peaceful now, but insist on keeping the stockpile. He just won't do any testing now in return for some trade/relief. Then at least other countries can't be sure they don't work and he keeps the lie alive. Makes others think twice about taking military action against him.

If we can convince him to discontinue further activity, that's a huge net win.

Definitely, it is. But actually giving up his nukes completely and/or admitting they're unusable anymore would be pretty dumb on Kim's part.
I'm fine w/ turning NK into another "mutually assured destruction" sort of peace situation. Not as good as no nuclear threat at all, but better than remaining hostile.

If it does happen b/c NK ran into such issues w/ their nuclear program, then it came about as a fluke and nothing more. I'm fine w/ that. But don't you dare go claiming Trump is to thank for the peace deal if so.

streamofthesky posted...

Zeus posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Unless Kim wants the "Libya solution" that professional idiot John Bolton offered NK, he's gonna hold onto the nukes.

Again, I should point out that Libya disarmed long before the upheaval and the threat of nukes would have likely done little to stop the upheaval (other than possibly discouraging outsiders from provoking it)

Well yeah, just keeping outside nations from getting involved at all is a pretty major consideration.

Zeus posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Even if that's true, why would he give them up?
Smarter to just act like he's being peaceful now, but insist on keeping the stockpile. He just won't do any testing now in return for some trade/relief. Then at least other countries can't be sure they don't work and he keeps the lie alive. Makes others think twice about taking military action against him.

If we can convince him to discontinue further activity, that's a huge net win.

Definitely, it is. But actually giving up his nukes completely and/or admitting they're unusable anymore would be pretty dumb on Kim's part.
I'm fine w/ turning NK into another "mutually assured destruction" sort of peace situation. Not as good as no nuclear threat at all, but better than remaining hostile.

If it does happen b/c NK ran into such issues w/ their nuclear program, then it came about as a fluke and nothing more. I'm fine w/ that. But don't you dare go claiming Trump is to thank for the peace deal if so.

We do have to thank him for not screwing up something that was handed to him on a silver platter.
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TheWorstPoster posted...

Considering that Kim more or less begged and pleaded for Donald Trump to go to his summit, when he threatened to cancel it...

Zikten posted...

Kim realizes that the nukes don't serve him any good anymore. his only hope is to appease the world. also, rumor is their nuke program is ruined. some kind of accident killed a bunch of scientists and blew up a facility. and it would cost too much money to restart. they are fucked. that's why they are giving up

You both are in Trumps inner circle?
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Shit no I don't believe it. He made another empty promise, just like all the times he and his dad had before, but he got Trump to commit to pulling U.S. forces out of SK, which is going to fuck things up.
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