Poll of the Day > Sakurai - We made the impossible, possible

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Even if it was a straight port, with the DLC added in like Mario Kart 8, that wouldn't be a bad thing.

But they're clearly doing a LOT of changes. Game Informer did an article about it, and I was shocked at how many characters are having changes made to their moves or to their Final Smashes.
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I'm not really sure why people are so bent on insisting this one's a port. It's an engine rewrite with improved graphics and a few new characters, stages, and items. That's all Smash sequels have ever been. The fact that there aren't many brand new characters doesn't mean they aren't putting any work into it when they've got so many existing characters to update and balance for the new engine.
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adjl posted...

I'm not really sure why people are so bent on insisting this one's a port. It's an engine rewrite with improved graphics and a few new characters, stages, and items. That's all Smash sequels have ever been. The fact that there aren't many brand new characters doesn't mean they aren't putting any work into it when they've got so many existing characters to update and balance for the new engine.

before the conference, i was convinced it would be a port as well. i'm still not sure how they managed to make a brand new game in the amount of time they did, plus they typically like to have more time between games, ok?

either way, i'm definitely convinced it's not a port, and i'm excited as hell to play it, ok?

Aculo posted...

before the conference, i was convinced it would be a port as well.

Me too, honestly. This has been a very short inter-smash period; the fact that they were suggesting a 2018 release when they first announced it made me think we would be seeing another WiiU remake.
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adjl posted...

I'm not really sure why people are so bent on insisting this one's a port. It's an engine rewrite with improved graphics and a few new characters, stages, and items. That's all Smash sequels have ever been

That's pretty much all fighting game sequels ever are.

I mean, Mortal Kombat 10 is, at its core, the exact same game as Mortal Kombat 1. Yes, combat is now much smoother, there are some new mechanics, the roster is bigger, but at the end of the day you're still pressing back-back-low punch to toss a spear at some dude and get him over here.

Yeah, every new entry tweaks things and adds a few bells and whistles - much like Smash Ultimate is doing - but rare is the fighting game that rebuilds itself from the ground up every sequel.
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adjl posted...

I'm not really sure why people are so bent on insisting this one's a port. It's an engine rewrite with improved graphics and a few new characters, stages, and items. That's all Smash sequels have ever been. The fact that there aren't many brand new characters doesn't mean they aren't putting any work into it when they've got so many existing characters to update and balance for the new engine.

I think the sudden announcement and the same-year release (in contrast with the usual long-Smash hype cycle) coupled with the lesser amount of time between games than normal is why.
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It's pretty obviously a port. Not a straight port, but a port nonetheless.
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Kinda weird how so many people praised the Mario Kart 8 DX port for the Switch.
And yet people bash SSBU for being a port despite having way more new features and adjustments (plus all characters that has ever been in a Smash game Did MK8DX have all previously cut characters from the earlier games?) as well as new visuals, unlike Mario Kart 8 DX.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

It's pretty obviously a port. Not a straight port, but a port nonetheless.

What makes this a port more so than any prior Smash sequel (or fighting game sequel in general, really)?
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EvilMegas posted...

My opinion is law!

No, but Im entitled to it and to discuss it on a video game message board.

Not that hard of a concept, is it.
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adjl posted...

Metalsonic66 posted...

It's pretty obviously a port. Not a straight port, but a port nonetheless.

What makes this a port more so than any prior Smash sequel (or fighting game sequel in general, really)?

The fact that it's literally Smash 4 with extra content and enhancements.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

adjl posted...

Metalsonic66 posted...

It's pretty obviously a port. Not a straight port, but a port nonetheless.

What makes this a port more so than any prior Smash sequel (or fighting game sequel in general, really)?

The fact that it's literally Smash 4 with extra content and enhancements.

How is that any more true than saying that Smash 4 was Brawl with extra content and enhancements?
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Viking_Mudcrap posted...

EvilMegas posted...

My opinion is law!

No, but Im entitled to it and to discuss it on a video game message board.

Not that hard of a concept, is it.

Don't back peddle on me now, boyo.
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adjl posted...

Metalsonic66 posted...

It's pretty obviously a port. Not a straight port, but a port nonetheless.

What makes this a port more so than any prior Smash sequel (or fighting game sequel in general, really)?

Maybe it depends on show much changes. I feel that fighting games can probably be a little harder to disguise sometimes. Like in cases like this. Because it could be a port. But it could be considered a sequel with the roster and stuff. Like just tweaking a little or adding a couple character would be fine for a port. But addinglike EVERYONE back in, a bunch of old levels, reworking all characters, and maybe a bunch of new modes could probably make it a new game... maybe... IDK.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

adjl posted...

Metalsonic66 posted...

It's pretty obviously a port. Not a straight port, but a port nonetheless.

What makes this a port more so than any prior Smash sequel (or fighting game sequel in general, really)?

The fact that it's literally Smash 4 with extra content and enhancements.

Every sequel ever is a port.
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We call the blooper in MK8 the Sakurai because it's pointless and just makes the game less fun.
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Well if they really did literally everything from scratch then we would have had to wait at least two more years for this game.
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adjl posted...

How is that any more true than saying that Smash 4 was Brawl with extra content and enhancements?

Because Brawl was a completely different game. This shit isn't that complicated.

EvilMegas posted...

Every sequel ever is a port.

No.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

Because Brawl was a completely different game.

What made Brawl a completely different game more so than Ultimate?
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Ultimate is a port

Please try to keep up Adjl you're going in circles
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What can I say? I'm a well-rounded guy.
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adjl posted...

Metalsonic66 posted...

Because Brawl was a completely different game.

What made Brawl a completely different game more so than Ultimate?

It was developed as its own game and not ported from a previous installment.
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So far, I'm getting a whole lot of "it's a port because it's a port," and not much else. Shall I interpret this as you not actually having an answer to the question asked?
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I think I'm being pretty clear while you just don't want to admit the obvious. I already said it's not a STRAIGHT port.
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So it's a port where they changed a bunch of stuff, which makes it different from previous entries which changed a similar amount of stuff but weren't ports.
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Port or not I'm fine with it. I like the changes and additions shown so far and I will probably only be disappointed with it if they screw up the other modes such as the singleplayer again like they did in Smash 4.
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Meh, Let the haters hate, whiners whine and so on and so forth, I personally am looking forward to this game, Can't wait for December to roll around!.
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adjl posted...

So it's a port where they changed a bunch of stuff, which makes it different from previous entries which changed a similar amount of stuff but weren't ports.

That's exactly what I've been saying!
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Metalsonic66 posted...

adjl posted...

So it's a port where they changed a bunch of stuff, which makes it different from previous entries which changed a similar amount of stuff but weren't ports.

That's exactly what I've been saying!

So a game can be a port even if it changes as much stuff as other entries in the series that somehow aren't ports?
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Yes, if you understand what a port is...
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I can main Pichu again = dreams do come true
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Yeah, clones are terrible and a detriment to the fighting genre

*Mains Ryu, Ken, akuma, Dan, Sakura, sagat*

Metalsonic66 posted...

Yes, if you understand what a port is...

Man, if only I'd given you one or more opportunities to actually specify what you're considering a port to be.
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Facts: people who complain this much about a video game have a shitty life.
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PPPPLAASSUMA posted...

Facts: people who complain this much about a video game have a shitty life.

>Assuming others have a shitty life
>Is posting on a video game message board

lol
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I just took that line as a joke to explain Ridley in the game hahahaha but even then, having every single character in a smash bros game including bringing back snake is fuckin awesome. Having every character, I consider clones skins, is a dream come true. This will make me by a switch honestly.
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yutterh posted...

I just took that line as a joke to explain Ridley in the game hahahaha but even then, having every single character in a smash bros game including bringing back snake is fuckin awesome. Having every character, I consider clones skins, is a dream come true. This will make me by a switch honestly.

I was thinking that, too. Since it was always said how it would be impossible to have Ridley as a character.
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Before Ridley he said it was impossible to have Villager as a character.

He can make anyone a character if he really wants, it's just a question of what he prioritizes. Saying "we could have added Ridley but chose not to" is asking to be crucified by the fans, so he just dodges the question with an excuse.

Goku and Shrek could be in Smash if Nintendo really wanted them, the "rules" the fans make up are more like guidelines.
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adjl posted...

Man, if only I'd given you one or more opportunities to actually specify what you're considering a port to be.

I've already specified. Not sure what's so hard to figure out. I'm not even saying that it being a port is a bad thing; in my first post of this thread I pointed out that I would have been fine with it if it had been literally Smash 4 + DLC like they did with Mario Kart, and being impressed with all the changes, tweaks, and additions.

It's basically the same situation as MHFU or MH4U. They added a ton of new content, but the base game is the same. Which is GOOD, because Smash 4 was fantastic.
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That makes no sense and you're dumb.
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EvilMegas posted...

That makes no sense and you're dumb.

No u
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It has a new main theme, as per the smash website. This confirms it as a new title.
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