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SciFi 06/03/18 5:51:41 PM #1: |
https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2018/06/03/giuliani-trump-can-probably-pardon-himself-but-has-no-plan-to/
WASHINGTON President Donald Trump, under pressure from special counsel Robert Muellers investigation into Russias role in the 2016 U.S. election, probably has the power to pardon himself but does not plan to do so, his attorney Rudy Giuliani said on Sunday. --- Imagine Greater ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 06/03/18 5:52:57 PM #2: |
The only reason he isn't planning to pardon himself is because his ego won't let him believe he'll be charged with anything.
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Doom_Art 06/03/18 5:53:25 PM #3: |
I feel like the President can't pardon himself
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BLAKUboy 06/03/18 5:54:00 PM #4: |
Giuliani has proven time and again he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about, so this probably means Trump doesn't have the power to pardon himself and he has absolutely been trying to do it.
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Doe 06/03/18 5:55:49 PM #5: |
I love that, he can "probably." Like, "I dunno maybe he's only shown 80% of his power"
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BLAKUboy 06/03/18 5:56:55 PM #6: |
Doe posted...
I love that, he can "probably." Like, "I dunno maybe he's only shown 80% of his power" "This isn't even my final form." Trump, probably --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 06/03/18 5:57:22 PM #7: |
...why would his own fuckin lawyer even make this comment publicly?
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Mr_Biscuit 06/03/18 5:58:41 PM #8: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
...why would his own fuckin lawyer even make this comment publicly? Giuliani has been hilarious. Like. Almost worse than SEZ HOO --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 06/03/18 5:59:22 PM #9: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
...why would his own fuckin lawyer even make this comment publicly? Because the dude is a fucking loon. Remember this is the same guy that got the job and immediately went on the literal Trumpeter safe space that is Hannity's show and admitted to like 3 crimes that Trump and his cronies committed. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 06/03/18 5:59:30 PM #10: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
...why would his own fuckin lawyer even make this comment publicly? If Trump can't see it on fox news, he won't know it happened --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 06/03/18 6:03:59 PM #11: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
...why would his own fuckin lawyer even make this comment publicly? Rudy isn't his real lawyer. He's just the TV lawyer Trump sends out to get people on his side. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ElatedVenusaur 06/03/18 6:05:19 PM #12: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
TheVipaGTS posted......why would his own fuckin lawyer even make this comment publicly? Rudy is terrible at that though. Also probably not much worse at lawyering than Trump's actual lawyers, considering they're already resorting to the Nixon defense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrueRepublican 06/03/18 6:05:47 PM #13: |
If Trump can't pardon himself and his family and his friends and me then democracy is truly dead thanks to Clinton and Obama.
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RaptorLC 06/03/18 6:06:08 PM #14: |
pegusus123456 posted...
The only reason he isn't planning to pardon himself is because his ego won't let him believe he'll be charged with anything. That plus the Supreme Court has held that accepting a pardon constitutes an admission of guilt, which Trump is literally incapable of doing. Granted, someone would have to drive that point through his thick skull, as the odds are almost zero that Trump actually knows that. --- Never trust a snake. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 06/03/18 6:06:35 PM #15: |
ElatedVenusaur posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...TheVipaGTS posted... I never said he was good at it. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 06/03/18 6:07:35 PM #16: |
RaptorLC posted...
pegusus123456 posted...The only reason he isn't planning to pardon himself is because his ego won't let him believe he'll be charged with anything. I don't think he has any understanding of that whole "pardon is an admission of guilt" thing His understanding of the concept probably is only about as deep as "pardon=get out of jail free" --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RaptorLC 06/03/18 6:08:38 PM #17: |
Yeah, that's what I was saying. Someone would need to make him aware of that concept first.
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Hexenherz 06/03/18 6:10:30 PM #18: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
...why would his own fuckin lawyer even make this comment publicly? There was a really good article about how Giuliani operates and basically it's to throw all these absurd baseless claims out there so that the real stories get overshadowed by his dumb BS, and also sets really weird public expectations for things (like people literally now anticipate that the Mueller investigation is going to be done by 1 September even though no one ever said that except Giuliani). --- RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/99 FISH/ 73/99 Cooking ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 06/03/18 6:13:20 PM #19: |
RaptorLC posted...
Granted, someone would have to drive that point through his thick skull, as the odds are almost zero that Trump actually knows that. I mean, the fact he keeps giving them out to people that he fully believes "did nothing wrong" kinda proves he doesn't. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ElatedVenusaur 06/03/18 6:13:39 PM #20: |
Hexenherz posted...
TheVipaGTS posted......why would his own fuckin lawyer even make this comment publicly? Yeah, he is actually good at creating chaff, because the media slavishly reports on everything he says and does even though it's all really dumb and/or intentionally in bad faith, and they usually don't do a great job at conveying just how dumb it all is. Of course, I doubt anyone other than Trumpists buy it, but, then again, lots of people don't realize that the investigation has delivered a lot of indictments and a few guilty pleas already, so maybe it works better than I, some one who follows this stuff closely, realize. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRealDill2000 06/03/18 6:14:57 PM #21: |
This topic is pointless. There's no reason that Trump would have to pardon himself or anyone in his family. There haven't been any crimes committed (outside of Obama planting spies).
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gunplagirl 06/03/18 6:24:44 PM #22: |
TheRealDill2000 posted...
This topic is pointless. There's no reason that Trump would have to pardon himself or anyone in his family. There haven't been any crimes committed (outside of Obama planting spies). The spies (that don't exist) clearly found crimes or the probe wouldn't have already got convictions from people in Trump's campaign and such. --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 06/03/18 7:33:29 PM #23: |
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/390486-giuliani-if-trump-shot-comey-he-still-couldnt-have-been
President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said in a new interview on Sunday that even if Trump had shot former FBI Director James Comey, he still couldn't have been indicted. what the fuck --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 06/03/18 7:34:17 PM #24: |
"the president could've murdered the former fbi director he fired and would've gotten away with it"
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Ray_Dorset 06/03/18 7:34:38 PM #25: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/390486-giuliani-if-trump-shot-comey-he-still-couldnt-have-beenPresident Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said in a new interview on Sunday that even if Trump had shot former FBI Director James Comey, he still couldn't have been indicted. This really is the worst timeline. --- Owner of https://imgtc.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRealDill2000 06/03/18 7:37:28 PM #26: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/390486-giuliani-if-trump-shot-comey-he-still-couldnt-have-beenPresident Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said in a new interview on Sunday that even if Trump had shot former FBI Director James Comey, he still couldn't have been indicted. This doesn't indicate that Trump would take such steps. There's no reason to overreact to these comments. --- CE's source of sagely advice #BLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CW_McGraw 06/03/18 9:13:55 PM #27: |
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VTBM 06/03/18 9:16:57 PM #29: |
Trump is finished.
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thronedfire2 06/03/18 9:17:20 PM #30: |
Too bad Nixon didn't think of this first
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prince_leo 06/03/18 9:19:36 PM #31: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/390486-giuliani-if-trump-shot-comey-he-still-couldnt-have-beenPresident Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said in a new interview on Sunday that even if Trump had shot former FBI Director James Comey, he still couldn't have been indicted. jesus --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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furb 06/03/18 9:26:10 PM #32: |
Could Obama secretly run for President as a Kenyan and then pardon himself for violating election laws the constitution after winning?
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Mr_Biscuit 06/03/18 9:48:02 PM #33: |
prince_leo posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/390486-giuliani-if-trump-shot-comey-he-still-couldnt-have-beenPresident Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said in a new interview on Sunday that even if Trump had shot former FBI Director James Comey, he still couldn't have been indicted. This is the administration CEs usual suspects love with all their hearts --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthGravid 06/03/18 9:59:03 PM #34: |
You have to be convicted to be pardoned. A conviction in an impeachment trial means removal from office. That would mean that he would lose the power to pardon the moment that the conviction is handed down.
Sources : The US Constitution Article II, Section 2 The US Constitution Article II Section 4 It would require an Amendment for a President to self-pardon. Try reading this, you might learn something : https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/articles/article-ii --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DavidWong 06/03/18 10:01:53 PM #36: |
No President would because it implies he is guilty.
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RoboLaserGandhi 06/03/18 10:04:28 PM #37: |
Doom_Art posted...
I feel like the President can't pardon himself I feel like it's less of a rule set in stone and more of a completely ridiculous action that has no good outcome. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 06/03/18 10:08:04 PM #39: |
Anyone who has had any part in this witch hunt against Trump should be in prison.
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YoungMutual 06/03/18 10:09:01 PM #40: |
ElatedVenusaur posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...TheVipaGTS posted......why would his own fuckin lawyer even make this comment publicly? Being Trump's lawyer must be a nightmare, fees aside. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/03/18 10:09:34 PM #41: |
DarthGravid posted...
You have to be convicted to be pardoned. A conviction in an impeachment trial means removal from office. That would mean that he would lose the power to pardon the moment that the conviction is handed down. This administration ain't bright enough to understand this simple concept. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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