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Parappa09
06/01/18 6:41:11 PM
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The word is notably more offensive in the US than it is in the UK. While still not common parlance in Britain, it is used far more frequently, in pop culture and casual conversation, than it is across the Atlantic. In Australia, theyre even more relaxed about it. In Australia its not strictly a term of opprobrium, but can be neutral or even positive. Calling someone a good **** means theyre a decent person.

Part why its considered so much more outrageous in the US than in other English-speaking countries could be down to Americas puritanical streak. Swearing, in general, is arguably not as socially acceptable in the US as elsewhere. In 2008, for example, swearwords that had been bleeped out in the original version of Gordon Ramsays Kitchen Nightmares USA, were inserted back in for a British audience.

Another reason Americans are so uneasy with the word may be that it is more gendered in the US than elsewhere. In the UK and Australia, the term is unisex. See for example, Irvine Welshs Trainspotting: He really is a **** ay the first order. Or Samuel Becketts novel Malone Dies: They think they can confuse me Proper ***** whoever they are.

In America, however, it is almost exclusively associated with female sexuality. As the feminist writer Kate Millett once said, **** reduces women to the one essential our essence our offence.

It is not just a profanity in America; it is a slur. Like racial or homophobic epithets, it is designed to uphold existing power structures. This means that who is wielding the word, and who it is leveled against, are immensely important. Samantha Bee and Ivanka Trump are both white women. What Bee said to Trump is very different from, say, Ted Nugent calling Hillary Clinton a toxic ****. (The singer described the then-first lady in those terms in an interview with Denvers Westword magazine in 1994.)


https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/jun/01/samantha-bee-ivanka-trump-c-word-america
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3khc
06/01/18 6:41:57 PM
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Why is so bad. Just means pussy, right?
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Axiom
06/01/18 6:43:42 PM
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Yeah as a man it's basically the one word you don't want to ever use towards or around women. I think it's stupid that it's so taboo but whatever. I never use it anyway
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Funkydog
06/01/18 6:44:13 PM
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I always find it odd when they call anyone other than Donald Trump as just "Trump".

But yeah, is kinda curious how offensive yanks take the word.
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DrizztLink
06/01/18 6:44:32 PM
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3khc posted...
Why is so bad. Just means pussy, right?

In the same way that there are multiple slurs for black people but one stands out.
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mario2000
06/01/18 6:45:06 PM
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conservatives are just pretending to be offended over the word so they can virch
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Irony
06/01/18 6:45:15 PM
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Isn't poppycock basically the British equivalent of fuck?
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scorpion41
06/01/18 6:47:19 PM
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I mean calling a woman that implies that they are nothing more than whats between their legs, and that they offer nothing else. Its pretty degrading when you think about it.
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LightningAce11
06/01/18 6:48:15 PM
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In Australia it's a term of endearment.
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Funkydog
06/01/18 6:48:18 PM
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Irony posted...
Isn't poppycock basically the British equivalent of fuck?

What.

Not even close. It just means rubbish basically.
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Irony
06/01/18 6:48:19 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
I mean calling a woman that implies that they are nothing more than whats between their legs, and that they offer nothing else. Its pretty degrading when you think about it.

But what if you call a guy that?
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Hexenherz
06/01/18 6:48:46 PM
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I think the C word is the worst word in American English, just because of how hard it sounds, how rare it is, and how spiteful people are when they say it.
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Irony
06/01/18 6:49:02 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Irony posted...
Isn't poppycock basically the British equivalent of fuck?

What.

Not even close. It just means rubbish basically.

Then what is rubbish? Is it loo?
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 6:49:45 PM
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literally the most offensive sexist slur to use towards a woman
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thronedfire2
06/01/18 6:49:53 PM
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Yeah it sucks, its my favorite swear

My whole group of friends uses it all the time and people give us dirty looks in public
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Funkydog
06/01/18 6:51:14 PM
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Irony posted...
Funkydog posted...
Irony posted...
Isn't poppycock basically the British equivalent of fuck?

What.

Not even close. It just means rubbish basically.

Then what is rubbish? Is it loo?

Yes.Although poppycock is used in reference to someone talking nonsense/rubbish, rather than "rubbish" in general.
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Parappa09
06/01/18 6:51:19 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
I think the C word is the worst word in American English, just because of how hard it sounds, how rare it is, and how spiteful people are when they say it.

oh man in britain we say it all the time

which is why im wondering why people want her fired for saying it
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FaultyGourry
06/01/18 6:51:28 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
I mean calling a woman that implies that they are nothing more than whats between their legs, and that they offer nothing else. Its pretty degrading when you think about it.

Kinda like calling a guy a dick, prick, dickhead, bellend or any other insult based on their genitalia. Nobody bats an eye at those though. >_>
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 6:51:52 PM
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the word for fuck is "bloody" basically
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 6:52:29 PM
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FaultyGourry posted...
Kinda like calling a guy a dick, prick, dickhead, bellend or any other insult based on their genitalia. Nobody bats an eye at those though. >_>

it's not the same thing. you think it is, but it's not
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CarlGrimes
06/01/18 6:52:30 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
I think the C word is the worst word in American English, just because of how hard it sounds, how rare it is, and how spiteful people are when they say it.

It is the only swear we have left that has any bite to it. Fuck is so commonplace no one even bats an eye anymore.
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Southernfatman
06/01/18 6:52:32 PM
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I'm still salty/triggered/mad over getting a fucking warning for calling someone a non-user and terrible human being that word. I was told it's like a racial slur towards women.
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Funkydog
06/01/18 6:53:00 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
the word for fuck is "bloody" basically

No it isn't.

Bloody and fuck are very much different.
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FaultyGourry
06/01/18 6:53:19 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
Kinda like calling a guy a dick, prick, dickhead, bellend or any other insult based on their genitalia. Nobody bats an eye at those though. >_>

it's not the same thing. you think it is, but it's not

It really is.
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 6:54:06 PM
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well, I mean for certain emphasis. you're right, fuck has more uses
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 6:54:33 PM
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FaultyGourry posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
Kinda like calling a guy a dick, prick, dickhead, bellend or any other insult based on their genitalia. Nobody bats an eye at those though. >_>

it's not the same thing. you think it is, but it's not

It really is.

you're actually wrong, sorry MAN
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Hexenherz
06/01/18 6:55:26 PM
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Poppycock would probably be most offensive in the Netherlands since it's probably derived from Dutch and would have meant "soft feces".
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FaultyGourry
06/01/18 6:55:34 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
Kinda like calling a guy a dick, prick, dickhead, bellend or any other insult based on their genitalia. Nobody bats an eye at those though. >_>

it's not the same thing. you think it is, but it's not

It really is.

you're actually wrong, sorry MAN

By all means, tell me how I'm wrong.
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 6:58:28 PM
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Because in the instance of calling a man a dick, you are referring to him thinking like a dick and being inconsiderate of others and pushing your way in rudely etc. When you call a woaman the c word, it's pretty much saying her only value is her crotch area, and has no value as a person. Not the same thing.
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Funkydog
06/01/18 6:59:56 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Because in the instance of calling a man a dick, you are referring to him thinking like a dick and being inconsiderate of others and pushing your way in rudely etc. When you call a woaman the c word, it's pretty much saying her only value is her crotch area, and has no value as a person. Not the same thing.

Or the person is being a c word.
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 7:01:10 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Or the person is being a c word.

you don't understand so we're gonna have to agree to disagree
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Parappa09
06/01/18 7:01:48 PM
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Zurkon posted...
Axiom posted...
Yeah as a man it's basically the one word you don't want to ever use towards or around women. I think it's stupid that it's so taboo but whatever. I never use it anyway

i don't think its gendered over here, at least not as much as in the states
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Funkydog
06/01/18 7:02:01 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Funkydog posted...
Or the person is being a c word.

you don't understand so we're gonna have to agree to disagree

I mean, I'm a brit, and that is how we use the word. It's not really gendered at all, and I wouldn't be terribly surprised if people in America were starting to use it in the same sort of way.
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FaultyGourry
06/01/18 7:02:26 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Because in the instance of calling a man a dick, you are referring to him thinking like a dick and being inconsiderate of others and pushing your way in rudely etc. When you call a woaman the c word, it's pretty much saying her only value is her crotch area, and has no value as a person. Not the same thing.

I think you're the one putting that kind of meaning behind the word. The only time I see people actually use the insult against a woman is when she is acting arrogant, inconsiderate or down right mean. You know, the same way the dick insult is used against a guy.
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 7:02:53 PM
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Funkydog posted...
I mean, I'm a brit, and that is how we use the word.

I know what you mean, but the undertone and history of the word kind of goes there.
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AvantgardeAClue
06/01/18 7:03:09 PM
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The fact that it's probably the only swear we still can't say here should say a lot
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Milkman5
06/01/18 7:03:39 PM
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it's almost the n-word for women in the US

who cares though, I don't mind when people say it
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 7:03:45 PM
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FaultyGourry posted...
I think you're the one putting that kind of meaning behind the word. The only time I see people actually use the insult against a woman is when she is acting arrogant, inconsiderate or down right mean. You know, the same way the dick insult is used against a guy.

actually, I used to think the way you do. but now I know better
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Peter_Giffyndor
06/01/18 7:04:13 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
I mean calling a woman that implies that they are nothing more than whats between their legs, and that they offer nothing else. Its pretty degrading when you think about it.


Exactly! Just when a girl calls a guy a dick...o wait, double standards. Carry on.
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MARKINGRAM22
06/01/18 7:04:17 PM
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It was never that offensive until recently when feminists wanted to get their own n word so they could get people fired and act offended. Why is the n word offensive? History. The c word has way less use in a degrading and violent scenario than tons of words. On paper it should be less offensive than dick, but people placate to these people.
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Funkydog
06/01/18 7:04:55 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Funkydog posted...
I mean, I'm a brit, and that is how we use the word.

I know what you mean, but the undertone and history of the word kind of goes there.

I guess it just goes to show how different America is to Britain/Australia in this regard.
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 7:05:41 PM
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I've used the C word a lot thinking otherwise. But trust me, that's how women feel when you use it. Well some women I guess punk women wouldn't.
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FaultyGourry
06/01/18 7:07:07 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
I think you're the one putting that kind of meaning behind the word. The only time I see people actually use the insult against a woman is when she is acting arrogant, inconsiderate or down right mean. You know, the same way the dick insult is used against a guy.

actually, I used to think the way you do. but now I know better

Considering you didn't argue against my point, you obviously don't know better.
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catboy0_0
06/01/18 7:08:01 PM
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FaultyGourry posted...
Considering you didn't argue against my point, you obviously don't know better.

don't care tbh sorry
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thronedfire2
06/01/18 7:08:02 PM
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Idk, I dont gender it and I use it interchangeably with asshole/dick/bitch etc etc

If a woman is acting in a way that I want to really be mean I dont need a slur to do it, Ill insult her personally just like I would with a guy
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Pillowpantz
06/01/18 7:08:36 PM
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Eh, if a woman acts like one, I see nothing wrong with calling her one. Its not a word I use often though.

*is American*

Also, Russell Peters has a bit on this.
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06/01/18 7:11:29 PM
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Parappa09
06/01/18 7:13:26 PM
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Milkman5 posted...
it's almost the n-word for women in the US

who cares though, I don't mind when people say it

i'm still mindblown about this

but also now i understand why some americans are calling for her to be fired, knowing the history and tone of the word in the US

thronedfire2 posted...
Idk, I dont gender it and I use it interchangeably with asshole/dick/bitch etc etc

you sure you're not british?
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Funkydog
06/01/18 7:14:51 PM
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Parappa09 posted...
Milkman5 posted...
it's almost the n-word for women in the US

who cares though, I don't mind when people say it

i'm still mindblown about this

but also now i understand why some americans are calling for her to be fired, knowing the history and tone of the word in the US

Yeah, it does make sense. Here it is a word you can hear on the tv fine and no one cares.

Heck, most people would agree if we called May one tbh.
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