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I am absolutely miserable

I hate work

I cannot do it

I physically, literally, cannot do this anymore

You physically, literally can.

Nevertheless, what's the problem? I assume it's not a job within your intended career plan? Are you working towards correcting that?

Bro everyone just had a 4 day weekend. You already need a holiday?
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JustMyOpinion posted...

It's 5 pm. Shut the fuck up and go home.

No it's 4

ArchiePeck posted...

You physically, literally can.

Nevertheless, what's the problem? I assume it's not a job within your intended career plan? Are you working towards correcting that?

It is within my career path

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Bro everyone just had a 4 day weekend. You already need a holiday?

I think that's what makes it worse

Office jobs are rough. While Im not thrilled at where I am in my life, bartending has been the least stressful, one of the more lucrative, and probably the most entertaining job Ive had. Consider a career switch, maybe when youve got enough money invested that you can maintain your lifestyle. Bartending, for instance, can earn you a decent salary if youre in a good area for it.
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EnragedSlith posted...

Consider a career switch, maybe when youve got enough money invested that you can maintain your lifestyle.

I'll be a 70 year old bartender

Seriously though I don't understand how people do this

I need to retire

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Bro everyone just had a 4 day weekend. You already need a holiday?

here in America we had a 3-day weekend.
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clearaflagrantj posted...

EnragedSlith posted...

Consider a career switch, maybe when youve got enough money invested that you can maintain your lifestyle.

I'll be a 70 year old bartender

A lot of people dont retire because theyre through working. They do it because their bodies break down and they arent useful anymore.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

here in America we had a 3-day weekend.

My America gave me 4 days off
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#ShitLibertariansSay

clearaflagrantj posted...

Seriously though I don't understand how people do this

I need to retire

Most people don't hate their job as much as you do.
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Logged into my computer this morning to discover that my boss removed outlook from my windows desktop to force me to use the mac laptop. He's a mac fanboy.

There was no reason to dothis.

Am I right to feel pissed off about this?

COVxy posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

Seriously though I don't understand how people do this

I need to retire

Most people don't hate their job as much as you do.

A lot of people are brainwashed idiots.

clearaflagrantj posted...

A lot of people are brainwashed idiots.

Or, alternatively, they chose a career that matched them better than you did.
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It's possible to have a fitting career but your boss is still an incompetent

COVxy posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

A lot of people are brainwashed idiots.

Or, alternatively, they chose a career that matched them better than you did.

I absolutely loved engineering in school, it's the American work culture that's the problem.

Rexdragon125 posted...

It's possible to have a fitting career but your boss is still an incompetent

Yeah it's like that adage you don't leave a job you leave a boss

clearaflagrantj posted...

I absolutely loved engineering in school, it's the American work culture that's the problem.

That's cuz you took it ez-street.

If 75% of your time is spent metaphorically jacking off, why wouldn't you 'enjoy' it? The real question is whether or not you actually enjoyed the studies, rather than your time in school.
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Godnorgosh posted...

Apple sucks.

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clearaflagrantj posted...

Logged into my computer this morning to discover that my boss removed outlook from my windows desktop to force me to use the mac laptop. He's a mac fanboy.

There was no reason to dothis.

Am I right to feel pissed off about this?

COVxy posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

Seriously though I don't understand how people do this

I need to retire

Most people don't hate their job as much as you do.

A lot of people are brainwashed idiots.

Actually, most people do hate their jobs. I wouldn't argue with covxy because, once again, he thinks his experience and attitude with things is final.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-so-many-americans-hate-their-jobs/
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DoctorVader posted...

Actually, most people do hate their jobs. I wouldn't argue with covxy because, once again, he thinks his experience and attitude with things is final.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-so-many-americans-hate-their-jobs/

You must have trouble reading because that link doesn't contradict what I've said.
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COVxy posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

I absolutely loved engineering in school, it's the American work culture that's the problem.

That's cuz you took it ez-street.

If 75% of your time is spent metaphorically jacking off, why wouldn't you 'enjoy' it? The real question is whether or not you actually enjoyed the studies, rather than your time in school.

You made a lot of assumptions with this post and they are all wrong

JustMyOpinion posted...

Can't you just log in from office365.com for email?

Tried, didn't work

Godnorgosh posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

Logged into my computer this morning to discover that my boss removed outlook from my windows desktop to force me to use the mac laptop. He's a mac fanboy.

If your boss won't let you do your work without using Apple products, unless it's actually necessary, I'd be looking for another job. Apple sucks.

Agreed, it doesn't even run the cad software I use for 95% of the time at work so it's literally useless too

clearaflagrantj posted...

You made a lot of assumptions with this post and they are all wrong

They weren't assumptions, exaggerations likely, but still. You've posted about how you miss your college days and why.
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clearaflagrantj posted...

Seriously though I don't understand how people do this

I need to retire

Because people need to put food on the tables?
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COVxy posted...

DoctorVader posted...

Actually, most people do hate their jobs. I wouldn't argue with covxy because, once again, he thinks his experience and attitude with things is final.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-so-many-americans-hate-their-jobs/

You must have trouble reading because that link doesn't contradict what I've said.

It does. 67% of people don't like their jobs. I know you said he hates it more then others, but that means jack shit. He hates it like most people.

You're in some My Hero Academia bullshit. Of course you're gonna delude yourself into believing you love what you do.

Also you said you're from LI. What college do you even work at? Highly doubt it's NYU or Columbia. The rest are trash in comparison, so it really speaks a lot about how smug you act.
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Time to find another job.
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DoctorVader posted...

It does. 67% of people don't like their jobs. I know you said he hates it more then others, but that means jack shit. He hates it like most people.

It talks about engagement and disengagement. Clear has been posting for half a decade about how much he hates his work, and every job he's had that he's posted about. That's beyond disengagement at work. I'd have said off the bat that a majority of people are disengaged with their work.

But he clearly is an outlier here lol.
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COVxy posted...

It talks about engagement and disengagement. Clear has been posting for half a decade about how much he hates his work, and every job he's had that he's posted about. That's beyond disengagement at work. I'd have said off the bat that a majority of people are disengaged with their work.

But he clearly is an outlier here lol.

Lmao. If you're not engaged at work, you don't like it.

I get your point, he seems to hate it more than others, but let's not get caught up on the words like or hate. If a person is not engaged at work, they don't like their job.

You'll NEVER understand this because you've stated several times that you love your career and are so passionate, you end up sounding delusional.

Also, once again, what college do you work at so I can laugh a bit.
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I lost motivation at work. What do?
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clearaflagrantj posted...

COVxy posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

I absolutely loved engineering in school, it's the American work culture that's the problem.

That's cuz you took it ez-street.

If 75% of your time is spent metaphorically jacking off, why wouldn't you 'enjoy' it? The real question is whether or not you actually enjoyed the studies, rather than your time in school.

You made a lot of assumptions with this post and they are all wrong

JustMyOpinion posted...

Can't you just log in from office365.com for email?

Tried, didn't work

Godnorgosh posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

Logged into my computer this morning to discover that my boss removed outlook from my windows desktop to force me to use the mac laptop. He's a mac fanboy.

If your boss won't let you do your work without using Apple products, unless it's actually necessary, I'd be looking for another job. Apple sucks.

Agreed, it doesn't even run the cad software I use for 95% of the time at work so it's literally useless too

Couple of things.

1. They should have Outlook installed on your Mac for you to use.
2. Why does he even have the power/access to log onto your computer?
3. If he's doing this for no other reason than him being an Apple fan and it's hindering you getting stuff done then no wonder you hate your job. Your work environment is awful and you need to go somewhere else. I felt the same drag as you until I went to my current job. Current place actually respects me enough to let me work in whatever way I find most efficient. That doesn't mean chaining me to a desk for a set number of hours.
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DoctorVader posted...

Lmao. If you're not engaged at work, you don't like it.

Naw, I liked my old cashier job, certainly didn't hate it, but i was pretty damn disengaged after a year of doing it. If you are working a job for a long time and the demands don't change, it becomes old hat.

All I'm saying is that clear is an outlier, but when approached about it, he just claims everyone else is delusional.
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COVxy posted...

DoctorVader posted...

It does. 67% of people don't like their jobs. I know you said he hates it more then others, but that means jack shit. He hates it like most people.

It talks about engagement and disengagement. Clear has been posting for half a decade about how much he hates his work, and every job he's had that he's posted about. That's beyond disengagement at work. I'd have said off the bat that a majority of people are disengaged with their work.

But he clearly is an outlier here lol.

only 16% are actively disengaged which is what they would describe clear as
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COVxy posted...

Naw, I liked my old cashier job, certainly didn't hate it, but i was pretty damn disengaged after a year of doing it. If you are working a job for a long time and the demands don't change, it becomes old hat.

Gonna need more then anecdotal experience here because my own anecdotal experience shows that when things become routine and old hat, you don't like the job like you once did anymore or pretend you do.

And since that happens to most everybody that works more than a year at a job, it shows that most people don't really enjoy it.
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I mean, you made a strict logical statement. All that's required to contradict either the logic or definitions is a singe counter example. We are clearly defining "like" or "engagement" differently.

I was happy to show up to work, but it's not like I was getting active reward from the actual work. I'd say like in that case, and I'm guessing you would say dislike.
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COVxy posted...

I mean, you made a strict logical statement. All that's required to contradict either the logic or definitions is a singe counter example. We are clearly defining "like" or "engagement" differently.

I was happy to show up to work, but it's not like I was getting active reward from the actual work. I'd say like in that case, and I'm guessing you would say dislike.

So, you're gonna stick to your anecdotal experiences because you have nothing concrete?

Got it. This is where my OP comes into play. You think your experiences are final and make tons of assumptions about everybody else, but can hardly ever back it up.
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DoctorVader posted...

COVxy posted...

I mean, you made a strict logical statement. All that's required to contradict either the logic or definitions is a singe counter example. We are clearly defining "like" or "engagement" differently.

I was happy to show up to work, but it's not like I was getting active reward from the actual work. I'd say like in that case, and I'm guessing you would say dislike.

So, you're gonna stick to your anecdotal experiences because you have nothing concrete?

Got it. This is where my OP comes into play. You think your experiences are final and make tons of assumptions about everybody else, but can hardly ever back it up.

...no, i see the disagreement to be definitional in nature, requiring logic, not evidence, to clear up.
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DoctorVader posted...

So, you're gonna stick to your anecdotal experiences because you have nothing concrete?

Got it. This is where my OP comes into play.

the OP where you link to something that makes a clear distinction between being disengaged and actively hating your job? and shows that while most americans are the former, only a small subset are of the latter?

it isn't about getting caught up on 'the words like or hate,' it is the objective difference in those things that is meaningful. trying to pretend its a semantic disagreement is a tactic for you to move your goalpost without admitting it
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COVxy posted...

...no, i see the disagreement to be definitional in nature, requiring logic, not evidence, to clear up.

"I don't know how to respond to you because I'm going off my experiences only. So I'm just gonna bow out by uttering something about evidence vs logic"

Predictable as ever.
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Balrog0 posted...

DoctorVader posted...

So, you're gonna stick to your anecdotal experiences because you have nothing concrete?

Got it. This is where my OP comes into play.

the OP where you link to something that makes a clear distinction between being disengaged and actively hating your job? and shows that while most americans are the former, only a small subset are of the latter?

it isn't about getting caught up on 'the words like or hate,' it is the objective difference in those things that is meaningful. trying to pretend its a semantic disagreement is a tactic for you to move your goalpost without admitting it

"meaning they feel no real connection to their jobs, and thus they tend to do the bare minimum."

Sugarcoat that as whatever you guys want.
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DoctorVader posted...

COVxy posted...

...no, i see the disagreement to be definitional in nature, requiring logic, not evidence, to clear up.

"I don't know how to respond to you because I'm going off my experiences only. So I'm just gonna bow out by uttering something about evidence vs logic"

Predictable as ever.

Let's be clear here: under your definitions where disengagement = dislike, we are in agreement.

I think this definition misses a lot of nuance, where i can be disengaged with my work and still be happy to go to work, or where can be engaged with my work but hate every second of it.

So with respect to these definitions, i dont know if we agree or not because you've refused to discuss this, labeling this as my attempt to label my anecdotes as universal.
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DoctorVader posted...

"meaning they feel no real connection to their jobs, and thus they tend to do the bare minimum."

Sugarcoat that as whatever you guys want.

what is their to sugarcoat? here's what happened

I literally cannot physically work any more
you hate your job more than most people
no he doesn't, here is a link
the link proves that most people do the bare minimum and a smaller amount of people dislike their job enough to complain about it constantly

maybe you just want to win an argument with covxy for some reason?
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Balrog0 posted...

DoctorVader posted...

"meaning they feel no real connection to their jobs, and thus they tend to do the bare minimum."

Sugarcoat that as whatever you guys want.

what is their to sugarcoat? here's what happened

I literally cannot physically work any more
you hate your job more than most people
no he doesn't, here is a link
the link proves that most people do the bare minimum and a smaller amount of people dislike their job enough to complain about it constantly

maybe you just want to win an argument with covxy for some reason?

I mean, if you think having no connection to the job and doing the bare minimum somehow means you still like the job, you're free to believe that.

In the real world, most people do not like their jobs. There's no one outside the first month or two where people are like "man, I fucking love my job". That's rare at best (not saying I don't know people that do love it). Most people are simply going through the motions and getting their paycheck.
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DoctorVader posted...

I mean, if you think having no connection to the job and doing the bare minimum somehow means you still like the job, you're free to believe that.

I don't.

DoctorVader posted...

In the real world, most people do not like their jobs.

And it is still true that clear hates his job more than they do.
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Balrog0 posted...

I don't.

Ok, then there's no argument.

Balrog0 posted...

And it is still true that clear hates his job more than they do.

I conceded to that several posts ago.
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Ask your IT department to install Parallels so you can do your job...
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DoctorVader posted...

I conceded to that several posts ago.

So then why are you arguing, exactly?
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COVxy posted...

DoctorVader posted...

I conceded to that several posts ago.

So then why are you arguing, exactly?

Go back and re-read those posts and you'll have your answer.
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DoctorVader posted...

COVxy posted...

DoctorVader posted...

I conceded to that several posts ago.

So then why are you arguing, exactly?

Go back and re-read those posts and you'll have your answer.

Seems like your only arguing to argue with me, since the post you are combating literally is the point you supposedly conceded on.
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