Board 8 > Phoenix Wright Mafia: Topic 3: Look, a Ladder!

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Han has been unimpressive. Sceptile seemed to go out of his way to find a different reason to vote Chris, which I found "interesting" but unsure of if it's more town or scum to do so
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[6] Prof - Shad, (MI), (Sceptile), (Leo), (Chris), (Alakazam), (Puns), (Corrik), NewDonker, Death, Leo, Arti, foolmo
[5] Chris - (Corrik), (Puns), Scare, (Corrik), Puns, (foolmo), (Leo), (Alakazam), Sceptile, Alakazam, Corrik
[4] Alakazam - Red, (Scare), (Han), (NewDonker), (Arti), FD, prof, (Corrik), (MI), DYL
[1] DYL - Han, (Leo)
[1] Sceptile - Chris, (MI)
[0] Foolmo - (Chris)
[0] Han - ((Alakazam), (Chris)
[0] Corrik - (Puns,) (Shad,), (Prof), (Alakazam)
[0] No Lynch - (Arti)
[0] FD - (Chris)
[0] Shad - (Han)
[0] Scare - (MI)
[0] Leo - (Puns)
[0] Chris - (Scare)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Day Ends at 11 PM EDT (2.5 hours), or when lynch reaches a majority
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My Immortal posted...

##Unvote:

I'm really torn on who I want to lynch.

I'd venture to guess it won't be Chris. Wonder why!
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Corrik posted...

So call his bluff. You have a vote. Vote for fucking Chris, instead of talking about ppl not having balls to vote him. I'll vote him every game phase for the rest of the game if I decide it worthy. I could give fuck less about your stupid mislynching bullshit you are all on aboutm

Exactly what reason is there to believe Zam is town at the moment? No "Oh he's new/bad so just ignore all that bullshit earlier" nonsense either. I really don't like you trying to buddy up to him either, Corrik.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

So call his bluff. You have a vote. Vote for fucking Chris, instead of talking about ppl not having balls to vote him. I'll vote him every game phase for the rest of the game if I decide it worthy. I could give fuck less about your stupid mislynching bullshit you are all on aboutm

Exactly what reason is there to believe Zam is town at the moment? No "Oh he's new/bad so just ignore all that bullshit earlier" nonsense either. I really don't like you trying to buddy up to him either, Corrik.

I don't like you reading 50 posts all game and acting like you have any clue wtf is going on. Go figure.
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RogueNoble posted...

Zam is 1000% scum's mislynch horse in tonight's race

"Hey look at that guy he said things that don't make sense let's gittem!!! Who needs a scummy motive when you have a guy who no write so good"

Who is your money on for scum there?

830. Peace. Lynch chris. Finish the fight.

FINISH HIM.
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I wonder what it is that makes me get voted more often as town than scum early game. It's really the weirdest pattern of my long term play here.
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Corrik posted...

My Immortal posted...

##Unvote:

I'm really torn on who I want to lynch.

I'd venture to guess it won't be Chris. Wonder why!

It probably won't be!
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

My Immortal posted...

##Unvote:

I'm really torn on who I want to lynch.

Why aren't we applying more heat to Sceptile?

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Honestly though dyl voting zam there instead of Chris is very ??? To me
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burning a grass type seems particularly cruel.

Also MI trying to latch harder onto chris is really bothersome.
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red13n posted...

burning a grass type seems particularly cruel.

Also MI trying to latch harder onto chris is really bothersome.

I mean, if he is scum isn't cruelty more fun, red?
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or you get a critical hit and kill town before you meant to.
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Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

So call his bluff. You have a vote. Vote for fucking Chris, instead of talking about ppl not having balls to vote him. I'll vote him every game phase for the rest of the game if I decide it worthy. I could give fuck less about your stupid mislynching bullshit you are all on aboutm

Exactly what reason is there to believe Zam is town at the moment? No "Oh he's new/bad so just ignore all that bullshit earlier" nonsense either. I really don't like you trying to buddy up to him either, Corrik.

I don't like you reading 50 posts all game and acting like you have any clue wtf is going on. Go figure.

So... no actual reasoning for Zam being town then?
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Red you are in a very good mood, aren't you?
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yes.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Excuse me.

I SAID I WANT OPINIONS ON SCEPTILE AND HAN. HELP THE UNDISPUTED BEST PLAYER IN THIS BOARD'S HISTORY GATHER INFORMATION TO RAPE SCUM WITH. THANK YOU.

Sceptile: sketchy. but has at least offered up some unique thoughts, putting him ahead of like 20% of the game in that regard. I do tend to misread him because he speaks very frankly and reserved. time will tell but he's a definite suspect. Just not enough activity or information to pin anything down.

Han: he's been playful which I attribute to town han usually. I don't have an urge to hang him because he's one of those who he rubs people the wrong way because he is super arrogant. Doesn't make him scum.

I got that feeling with how playful you have been.

Okay so you know Han like I do. Is this within his wheelhouse iyo?
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Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

So call his bluff. You have a vote. Vote for fucking Chris, instead of talking about ppl not having balls to vote him. I'll vote him every game phase for the rest of the game if I decide it worthy. I could give fuck less about your stupid mislynching bullshit you are all on aboutm

Exactly what reason is there to believe Zam is town at the moment? No "Oh he's new/bad so just ignore all that bullshit earlier" nonsense either. I really don't like you trying to buddy up to him either, Corrik.

I don't like you reading 50 posts all game and acting like you have any clue wtf is going on. Go figure.

So... no actual reasoning for Zam being town then?

You really think that a claim of Trucy Wright, is a fake claim given the flavor?
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

So call his bluff. You have a vote. Vote for fucking Chris, instead of talking about ppl not having balls to vote him. I'll vote him every game phase for the rest of the game if I decide it worthy. I could give fuck less about your stupid mislynching bullshit you are all on aboutm

Exactly what reason is there to believe Zam is town at the moment? No "Oh he's new/bad so just ignore all that bullshit earlier" nonsense either. I really don't like you trying to buddy up to him either, Corrik.

I don't like you reading 50 posts all game and acting like you have any clue wtf is going on. Go figure.

So... no actual reasoning for Zam being town then?

You really think that a claim of Trucy Wright, is a fake claim given the flavor?

could easily be a fake claim

as with every flavor that could possibly be in the game
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turbopuns2 posted...

RogueNoble posted...

Zam is 1000% scum's mislynch horse in tonight's race

"Hey look at that guy he said things that don't make sense let's gittem!!! Who needs a scummy motive when you have a guy who no write so good"

Who is your money on for scum there?

DYL was the worst, but MI's vote cost him any goodwill I may have had
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Okay so you know Han like I do. Is this within his wheelhouse iyo?

ehhh, cant recall han playing mafia in awhile(This could be my mind blanking).

My gut was saying he was probably town honestly, but its not a strong gut.
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Hm, okay.

I think you're town btw. I think I've got a good read on your head space and scum red has never been this reserved at trying to end me. I think you go for the jugular by now as scum.
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if this were a scum red vs town chris scenario, you are indeed in the floor already.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

I think you go for the jugular by now as scum.

Source?

turbopuns2 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I think you go for the jugular by now as scum.

Source?

FF7 Mafia
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That said, zam actually seems somewhat aggressive this game.

Alakazamtrainer posted...

##Unvote
##Vote: profDeadpool

Claim. Your looking just as bad as I supposedly am. Yet your unclaimed. Do so please.

Granted, this is a "claim vote" not "die vote"

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Prof is literally a garbage tier player in a game full of heavyweights. You'd have a hard time getting me to lynch him day 1.

Speak of the devil... Here's a question for you Sir. Like Rogue said earlier, if your so convinced I'm scum why tunnel, and not look for other scum?

One thing at a time?

That's a weak excuse. That's literally saying I found scum so I'm not going to look till the next day. Aka, being lazy.

Whats.your opinions of Nana? Corrik? Scare? Chris? Surly you have some other reads that you wish to pursue

Okay I actually like this interaction with red. I'd absolutely love it if he bothered to vote red, but it takes a while to build up that bloodlust.

The thing that bothered me about Zam...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

I understand and see the point of voting for Chris, however you literally tied my hands on the vote, I cannot nor will I vote at someone's beck and call. However I consider it more towards the end of day

He later restates that he doesn't want to switch to Chris because it will look like he's bandwagoning, Corrik argues that "Town shouldn't care how their vote looks".

Alakazamtrainer posted...

##Unvote
##Vote: Chris

Happy Corrik?

Quit being needy and let people vote how they want

And then this shit right here. He buckles to Corrik just like that. If I was dayvig I'd be super tempted to shoot him on that alone.

He then bickers a bit with Corrik. ...
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

FF7 Mafia

Literally like 17 years ago, though. What makes red town that isn't about you?

Posted in the wrong topic AGAIN

Sceptile's play seems very bad but not scummy right now. I don't think the time-based argument means much. BUT in 2.433 he mentioned the time thing is a symptom of a weirdly defensive Chris that doesn't feel like town. That is quite a valid argument. There are much more scummy things Chris is doing now. He was also wrong about why Chris voted for me (3.54). But he is right that Chris is literally fishing for a lynch right now (3.40). Chris acknowledges this and has no defense.

My Immortal is also weirdly anti-Sceptile (2.422). It seems like MI overreacted a bit to Sceptile's attack on Chris. Sceptile explained his theory pretty nicely but If Chris and MI are scum, it wouldn't be too weird for them to coordinate an anti-Sceptile attack like that. MI makes a sheepish joke about scum link in 3.7 when he votes for Sceptile. This reads hella insecure and unnecessary. That, plus Chris acknowledging MI's vote afterwards seems like the kind of self aware play they would do.

The timeline:
Sceptile attacks Chris
MI attacks Sceptile's attack
Chris doesn't really say anything
Then Chris votes Sceptile
Later, MI votes Sceptile

tl;dr MI and Chris seem too coordinated against Sceptile. From what we see in the topic, MI should've voted Sceptile way before Chris since he started the line of attack. But he only did it after Chris gave a sort of green light.

Another interesting thing is that MI questioned why people were jumping off Deadpool before the claim to attack other people in 2.416, and that was a big reason he attacked Sceptile. But then he literally did that same thing in 3.7 by voting Sceptile. It seems he is with Chris in claiming to be anti-Deadpool but actually has no interest in killing him.

I am willing to chalk this up to bad-but-not-scummy play IF My Immortal ends up back on Deadpool.
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turbopuns2 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

FF7 Mafia

Literally like 17 years ago, though. What makes red town that isn't about you?

I need one of those?
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red13n posted...

Hes certainly not helping his cause any, but knowing prof, he may be doing more good for himself not being here than actually trying to do anything.

Probably true

But what about Chris?
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foolm0r0n posted...

Posted in the wrong topic AGAIN

Sceptile's play seems very bad but not scummy right now. I don't think the time-based argument means much. BUT in 2.433 he mentioned the time thing is a symptom of a weirdly defensive Chris that doesn't feel like town. That is quite a valid argument. There are much more scummy things Chris is doing now. He was also wrong about why Chris voted for me (3.54). But he is right that Chris is literally fishing for a lynch right now (3.40). Chris acknowledges this and has no defense.

My Immortal is also weirdly anti-Sceptile (2.422). It seems like MI overreacted a bit to Sceptile's attack on Chris. Sceptile explained his theory pretty nicely but If Chris and MI are scum, it wouldn't be too weird for them to coordinate an anti-Sceptile attack like that. MI makes a sheepish joke about scum link in 3.7 when he votes for Sceptile. This reads hella insecure and unnecessary. That, plus Chris acknowledging MI's vote afterwards seems like the kind of self aware play they would do.

The timeline:
Sceptile attacks Chris
MI attacks Sceptile's attack
Chris doesn't really say anything
Then Chris votes Sceptile
Later, MI votes Sceptile

tl;dr MI and Chris seem too coordinated against Sceptile. From what we see in the topic, MI should've voted Sceptile way before Chris since he started the line of attack. But he only did it after Chris gave a sort of green light.

Another interesting thing is that MI questioned why people were jumping off Deadpool before the claim to attack other people in 2.416, and that was a big reason he attacked Sceptile. But then he literally did that same thing in 3.7 by voting Sceptile. It seems he is with Chris in claiming to be anti-Deadpool but actually has no interest in killing him.

I am willing to chalk this up to bad-but-not-scummy play IF My Immortal ends up back on Deadpool.

Confirmation bias at this point if you are town tbh
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Also weird how when I go scum hunting for Sceptile it leads me back to Chris...
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So yeah.

Arguments for Alakazam being town, anyone? Because his interaction with Corrik really killed any confidence I had in him, and Corrik suddenly being really friendly with him makes me reluctant to trust any lynch he's on.
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foolm0r0n posted...

I am willing to chalk this up to bad-but-not-scummy play IF My Immortal ends up back on Deadpool.

What a weird thing to say
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My Immortal posted...

What a weird thing to say

Why? You were very adamant about people staying on Deadpool, and then you jumped off

And now you're unvoted wondering where to go... uhhh, Deadpool?
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My Immortal posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

I am willing to chalk this up to bad-but-not-scummy play IF My Immortal ends up back on Deadpool.

What a weird thing to say

it was honestly a very foolmo thing to say.
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Okay I'm back from work and caught up and therefore is claim time.

Wendy Oldbag - Vanilla.

No real talents means I can only yell at people.

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

So call his bluff. You have a vote. Vote for fucking Chris, instead of talking about ppl not having balls to vote him. I'll vote him every game phase for the rest of the game if I decide it worthy. I could give fuck less about your stupid mislynching bullshit you are all on aboutm

Exactly what reason is there to believe Zam is town at the moment? No "Oh he's new/bad so just ignore all that bullshit earlier" nonsense either. I really don't like you trying to buddy up to him either, Corrik.

I don't like you reading 50 posts all game and acting like you have any clue wtf is going on. Go figure.

So... no actual reasoning for Zam being town then?

You really think that a claim of Trucy Wright, is a fake claim given the flavor?

Why would the flavor be a possible reason to think it isn't fake? This argument makes no sense to me.

I also really don't like the flip flopping on whether you can vote Chris or not after Corrik told you to.

But Corrik's looking pretty town right now tbh. He's afraid of Chris in a way I don't think scum Corrik is. The amount of pushing feels like him geniunely thinking Chris is scum and worried about how hard Chris is to lynch. I'd think scum Corrik is more likely to shoot Town Chris, and not quite so aggro on scumbuddy Chris.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

FF7 Mafia

Literally like 17 years ago, though. What makes red town that isn't about you?

I need one of those?

I mean, only if you're town I guess.

Shaduln posted...

Shaduln posted...

I really don't like all of the people that have said "I still think deadpool is scum" and have unvoted.

prof is literally idling out on purpose to hope that another lynch will gather enough steam that he doesn't need to claim.

(Which seems to be working btw)

This is the *resounding* feeling I am currently getting. I've also liked what I've read from Shad in my catchup in general.

##Vote: Deadpool

I feel like we're losing sight that this is a likely scum that's trying to idle out the day, and a lot of people are making excuses to dodge it. Deadpool was once well in the lead and he has done nothing since.

Especially comparing him to Alakazam: Alakazam claimed and has stuck around. He hasn't looked great, but he's been steadily posting. Deadpool's gone flat out inactive and has contributed very little. I would like people who seem comfortable letting that go elaborate with more than "Oh Deadpool is just a bad player" for a reason why. Chris could be scum, but I think Deadpool is more likely because he feels like he's been in hiding. There's barely more than 2 hours left in the day; we should flush him out.

DYL, what are your full reasons for voting Alakazam? What's your read on Chris and Deadpool? You seem to be hinging your argument more on "There's no reason to call him town" than "This is why I think he's scum".

Also VI I hope you are regretting putting prof in the game. (And will replace him after this day if hes alive hopefully).
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Oh he posted right before I did

turbopuns2 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

FF7 Mafia

Literally like 17 years ago, though. What makes red town that isn't about you?

I need one of those?

I mean, only if you're town I guess.

OK.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

I feel like we're losing sight that this is a likely scum that's trying to idle out the day, and a lot of people are making excuses to dodge it. Deadpool was once well in the lead and he has done nothing since.

being bad and then being afk is par for the course for both town and scum deadpool.
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

You really think that a claim of Trucy Wright, is a fake claim given the flavor?

I'm not familiar enough with the series to really meta claims.

Also safelists exist.

Also meta traps exist, and anyone putting 100% faith in flavor would deserve to get blown up by one.

Again, looking for reasons Zam is town.
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how many companion girls do we have now? Is it 3, or is it 4? I'm not familiar enough with the more recent games.
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also prof is here hurray.
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I see Deadpool is now back. I hope that he will be willing to provide some more thoughts now since the last time he said he would he didn't.
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Prof who are your top 3 scums and towns?
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