Board 8 > Phoenix Wright Mafia: Topic 3: Look, a Ladder!

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 7:16:46 PM
#51:


Sceptilesolar posted...
Shaduln posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Shaduln posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Chris seems to think everyone is scum at this point.

Who all has Chris called scum? Or is it just because he called you scum?


Well, me, Pool, foolmoron, and Han have all been voted within the last few hours, so no, it's not just me. Actually it was obvious before he voted me that he's looking for an alternative that will stick.

Four people is everyone?


It is as close to it as I need it to be
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So do you know why I don't claim and put myself on the line day one?

So scum get stupid on me.

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Dark Young Link
05/27/18 7:17:10 PM
#52:


The thing that worries me about Chris isn't his lack of claim, it's that all of his votes has been thus far weak. Over the hill or not, Chris is someone that has a lot of force with his votes isn't he? Here he seems unconcerned, I don't think he's gone for the kill on anyone yet. There's not exactly a lot of time left...
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:17:10 PM
#53:


foolm0r0n posted...
My Immortal posted...
To be fair deadpool hasn't logged in for 6.5 hours so pressure on him kind of is pointless.

If his timestamp was updating I'd be less likely to have moved my vote and still expect a claim from him when he's back

Damn is this the kind of meta forum mafia has?

Timestamp arguments are bush league and something bad players do. They are taboo. Should never be used. And every player using them should be embarrassed. You are using information outside of the game to play the game. Clearly against the rules but unenforceable.
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Sceptilesolar
05/27/18 7:17:15 PM
#54:


Arti posted...
I think it's obvious Chris just voted foolmo because his reasoning was off


Was it? That doesn't seem like what you normally vote someone for.
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:17:44 PM
#55:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hey Corrik let's say there is a terrible world where you and I were both town and had to be on the same page.

Deadpool/Han/Sceptile. Most likely scum, gun to your head?

Deadpool. Probably all town tho.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 7:18:21 PM
#56:


Corrik posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hey Corrik let's say there is a terrible world where you and I were both town and had to be on the same page.

Deadpool/Han/Sceptile. Most likely scum, gun to your head?

Deadpool. Probably all town tho.

And here I'd say they are more likely all scum.
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Arti
05/27/18 7:18:21 PM
#57:


Dark Young Link posted...
The thing that worries me about Chris isn't his lack of claim, it's that all of his votes has been thus far weak. Over the hill or not, Chris is someone that has a lot of force with his votes isn't he? Here he seems unconcerned, I don't think he's gone for the kill on anyone yet. There's not exactly a lot of time left...


there's almost four hours left

that's plenty in board 8 time
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 7:18:22 PM
#58:


Dark Young Link posted...
The thing that worries me about Chris isn't his lack of claim, it's that all of his votes has been thus far weak. Over the hill or not, Chris is someone that has a lot of force with his votes isn't he? Here he seems unconcerned, I don't think he's gone for the kill on anyone yet. There's not exactly a lot of time left...


Might want to see what I am about to do to poor Sceptile.
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Alakazamtrainer
05/27/18 7:18:52 PM
#59:


Corrik posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
##Unvote

I don't think Chris is the right move. In fact I need to relook at things before I vote

You know what. Fine.

##unvote:
##vote: alakazam


You are not playing for town's best interest.

Towns interest or Corrik's intrest?
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My Immortal
05/27/18 7:18:57 PM
#60:


I think my vote should actually be of some consequence and not be on someone who is afk. Sorry that it bothers you two so much.
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:19:19 PM
#61:


Shaduln posted...
Corrik posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hey Corrik let's say there is a terrible world where you and I were both town and had to be on the same page.

Deadpool/Han/Sceptile. Most likely scum, gun to your head?

Deadpool. Probably all town tho.

And here I'd say they are more likely all scum.

That is why I am better than you.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 7:20:11 PM
#62:


Hey Arti. You seem ENTERPRISING. May I interest you in a Sceptile lynch? He voted me for bullshit readsons, and hen tried to deflect that I think 'everyone' is scum when I have more town reads than scum. Benefits include pleasing me (:D) and also exerting pressure on someone who has SOME skill in mafia and isn't just a poor overall player.

Also I will give you a hug.
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Arti
05/27/18 7:20:40 PM
#63:


My Immortal posted...
I think my vote should actually be of some consequence and not be on someone who is afk. Sorry that it bothers you two so much.


That's fine.

##Vote: prof

It's a not good reason to stop. He's probably scum and is my strongest scum read right now.
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:21:11 PM
#64:


Can't wait til everyone wants to be chris' friend and he just railroads town as scum for the like 17th time I have played. Can't fucking wait.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 7:21:52 PM
#65:


Don't worry Corrik I'll post a respect topic on the scum board for your ability to always soul read me and never be wrong you are my hero xoxo
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:23:07 PM
#66:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Don't worry Corrik I'll post a respect topic on the scum board for your ability to always soul read me and never be wrong you are my hero xoxo

Like I have always said, if you played on a board where people didn't line up to suck up to you then you are just a mediocre player.

Obviously I can't talk any common sense into this player base so I am just afking. Later.
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My Immortal
05/27/18 7:23:53 PM
#67:


I like how Corrik is saying all this when Chris is in the lead for being lynched AND he already unvoted Chris.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 7:24:01 PM
#68:


My Immortal posted...
I like how Corrik is saying all this when Chris is in the lead for being lynched AND he already unvoted Chris.

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Shaduln
05/27/18 7:24:22 PM
#69:


Oh god Chris and Corrik are scum together aren't they?
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:24:22 PM
#70:


My Immortal posted...
I like how Corrik is saying all this when Chris is in the lead for being lynched AND he already unvoted Chris.

No he isn't. Now stop saying stupid shit to try and keep me here longer than I want.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 7:24:54 PM
#71:


Corrik posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Don't worry Corrik I'll post a respect topic on the scum board for your ability to always soul read me and never be wrong you are my hero xoxo

Like I have always said, if you played on a board where people didn't line up to suck up to you then you are just a mediocre player.

Obviously I can't talk any common sense into this player base so I am just afking. Later.


I mean I won player of the year on another board my first full year there. And I am highly regarded over at Mafia Universe as well.

But sure!
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 7:25:07 PM
#72:


Shaduln posted...
Oh god Chris and Corrik are scum together aren't they?


@foolm0r0n
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Dark Young Link
05/27/18 7:25:11 PM
#73:


Corrik posted...
Obviously I can't talk any common sense into this player base


Wasn't Chris the lynch lead for a while? Just because people are considering other options, doesn't mean Chris gets a free pass until endgame.

Corrik posted...
I am just afking


I recommend this target theoretical town vig.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 7:25:59 PM
#74:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Don't worry Corrik I'll post a respect topic on the scum board for your ability to always soul read me and never be wrong you are my hero xoxo

Like I have always said, if you played on a board where people didn't line up to suck up to you then you are just a mediocre player.

Obviously I can't talk any common sense into this player base so I am just afking. Later.


I mean I won player of the year on another board my first full year there. And I am highly regarded over at Mafia Universe as well.

But sure!

You don't 100%% agree with his positions, so you get called bad. /shrug
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Alakazamtrainer
05/27/18 7:26:52 PM
#75:


##Vote: Corrik

Let's just counter vote. I don't like Corrik, I never have, and Corrik is never interested in anyone but Corrik's opinion
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Sceptilesolar
05/27/18 7:27:14 PM
#76:


I think Chris is still in the lead, tied with Prof now? Not that it necessarily matters at this stage.
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RogueNoble
05/27/18 7:28:05 PM
#77:


I enjoy the little subplot of Zam getting in trouble for @ing Corrik to help him out, Corrik later @ing Zam to sheep vote with him, Zam backing off and getting stabbed by Corrik for his defiance.
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Leafeon13N
05/27/18 7:28:05 PM
#78:


Zam why are you making intentionally bad votes.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 7:28:17 PM
#79:


Alakazamtrainer posted...
Vote: Corrik

Let's just counter vote. I don't like Corrik, I never have, and Corrik is never interested in anyone but Corrik's opinion

While your points are valid, where in there does it say that you think he's scum?
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Shaduln
05/27/18 7:28:36 PM
#80:


Also, poor ing.
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Leafeon13N
05/27/18 7:29:00 PM
#81:


Also at some point we should discourage pinging of people. It's annoying.
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:29:01 PM
#82:


Sceptilesolar posted...
I think Chris is still in the lead, tied with Prof now? Not that it necessarily matters at this stage.

Cool. Finish the fight.

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##unvote:
##vote: Chris

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My Immortal
05/27/18 7:29:27 PM
#83:


Alakazamtrainer posted...
##Vote: Corrik

Let's just counter vote. I don't like Corrik, I never have, and Corrik is never interested in anyone but Corrik's opinion

You literally said in this game day that Corrik is one of the best players and is very valuable to have around.
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RogueNoble
05/27/18 7:30:01 PM
#84:


My Immortal posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
##Vote: Corrik

Let's just counter vote. I don't like Corrik, I never have, and Corrik is never interested in anyone but Corrik's opinion

You literally said in this game day that Corrik is one of the best players and is very valuable to have around.


I loled
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 7:30:04 PM
#85:


My Immortal posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
##Vote: Corrik

Let's just counter vote. I don't like Corrik, I never have, and Corrik is never interested in anyone but Corrik's opinion

You literally said in this game day that Corrik is one of the best players and is very valuable to have around.


... Okay so I mean sure, maybe Alakazam is scum AND bad <_<
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Dark Young Link
05/27/18 7:30:05 PM
#86:


Alakazamtrainer posted...
Let's just counter vote. I don't like Corrik, I never have


Alakazamtrainer posted...
You sir are far too valuable to lose this early. If it was day 2 or further if have to really think about it


Consider my vote on Zam tbh. Just need the votals to make sure it isn't a hammer.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 7:30:32 PM
#87:


My Immortal posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Vote: Corrik

Let's just counter vote. I don't like Corrik, I never have, and Corrik is never interested in anyone but Corrik's opinion

You literally said in this game day that Corrik is one of the best players and is very valuable to have around.

lol was that him?
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:31:44 PM
#88:


Told you you killed yourself Alakazam. All you had to literally do was follow my lead and Lynch scum. Grats on your mislynch.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 7:31:54 PM
#89:


Starting to think all that talk of 'caution' and 'bad doesn't mean scum' may have been a lot of wasted breath with Alakazam.
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foolm0r0n
05/27/18 7:32:37 PM
#90:


Oops posted in the wrong topic

I'm curious about Chris' claim that he totally thinks Prof is scum and has been attacking him this whole time, so I went back to analyze his reactions to Prof.

He initially jumped on Prof as the 5th vote after Prof made a somewhat bad but not really post about Zam's claim (1.369). He made a really big deal out of it even though Prof's reaction wasn't too bad This reeks of a scumbud voting another scumbud for doing something mildly stupid but not really that bad.

People had already started a train on Prof at that point, but Chris never said anything about Prof at all before 1.369. But when he saw the train building speed he found a BS reason to jump on.

2.4 DoomTheGyarados posted...
Anyone in the house want to defend Deadpool?

2.135 DoomTheGyarados posted...
Prof is awful on tone (my vote reasoning) but I notice people who are gathering momentum are people who can't defend themselves well. If we keep going after those it is like 28% or whatever success rate randomly. Possible bad means scum, puns is right about that, but exerting pressure on people who make sound arguments is a really good idea day one to make better players work for their safety even as town - it increases the fluidity of the game.

This is all he said about Prof after his vote. First post is extremely passive. He doesn't want to offer up any arguments against Prof himself, even though he is "totes scum"?? In the next post he outright defends Prof as "bad, not scum". Even though the post that made him vote for Prof was just bad, not scummy at all.

Next he jumped off to Han in 2.262 the instant everyone else started laying off pressure. The reason was because Han attacked Scare, who just made his "big case" against Chris. Scare is rightfully wary about this sudden support in 282.

This is especially weird because Chris likely thinks Scare is scum. He doesn't think the bad play in this game is scum, which means the scum is playing well. He highlighted Scare and Red specifically as good players with his backhanded "scum Chris" comment. Defending Scare against Han in 262 gives him good favor with a town-telling person, makes him seem less scummy for working with someone who is attacking him, and most importantly, gives him a reason to jump off Prof.

DYL in 323 agrees that Chris' votes for Prof and Han seemed reactionary and weak.

After that he jumped off Han onto me very easily. He later mentioned how Han is passive today, which is true and why I really want Han to talk. But he might just be gone or something (forum mafia sux).

Still, he is not on Han OR on Prof. He is on me. This is not an indication that he thinks Prof is scum and should die.

tl;dr No matter what Chris says, I'm treating him as a Prof defender
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Shaduln
05/27/18 7:34:53 PM
#91:


Corrik posted...
Told you you killed yourself Alakazam. All you had to literally do was follow my lead and Lynch scum. Grats on your mislynch.

Corrik posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Unvote

I don't think Chris is the right move. In fact I need to relook at things before I vote

You know what. Fine.

unvote:
vote: alakazam


You are not playing for town's best interest.

So if he's town why were you voting him?
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:35:13 PM
#92:


Don't hold it against, Alakazam. I baited him into that response. He didn't mean it. We are still, Bros.
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Alakazamtrainer
05/27/18 7:35:24 PM
#93:


Shaduln posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Vote: Corrik

Let's just counter vote. I don't like Corrik, I never have, and Corrik is never interested in anyone but Corrik's opinion

While your points are valid, where in there does it say that you think he's scum?


Corrik plays the same, regardless of alignment easier.
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:35:50 PM
#94:


Shaduln posted...
Corrik posted...
Told you you killed yourself Alakazam. All you had to literally do was follow my lead and Lynch scum. Grats on your mislynch.

Corrik posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Unvote

I don't think Chris is the right move. In fact I need to relook at things before I vote

You know what. Fine.

unvote:
vote: alakazam


You are not playing for town's best interest.

So if he's town why were you voting him?

When did I say he was scum? I also voted Deadpool who is town just for his claim. What is your point?
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Shaduln
05/27/18 7:36:10 PM
#95:


Alakazamtrainer posted...
Shaduln posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Vote: Corrik

Let's just counter vote. I don't like Corrik, I never have, and Corrik is never interested in anyone but Corrik's opinion

While your points are valid, where in there does it say that you think he's scum?


Corrik plays the same, regardless of alignment easier.

You still aren't calling him scum.
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foolm0r0n
05/27/18 7:36:24 PM
#96:


Shaduln posted...
lol was that him?

He called Corrik sir
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 7:36:29 PM
#97:


I do not think Scare is scum. That entire post is just not very correct.

I jumped to you because you kept stating lies, voting is fun.

Anyway I have pretty much made it clear in my intent that I think prof is scum. I have said, outright, that prof is someone I want to die. I also do not like Sceptile now for his bandwagon as fuck vote on me and his loose language on things. Han for reasons stated already

And maybe Alakazam because I don't even know how to add his posts together and come up with what he has said anymore.
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:36:59 PM
#98:


Sceptile, I said to finish the fight.
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turbopuns2
05/27/18 7:38:30 PM
#99:


Alright so far I think there is no way foolmo is scum. He signed up saying like "it's been long enough for me to forget how boring this game is", which I had in mind the whole like 24 hours he was afk, but this content storm does not fit in with scum foolmo. No way. Unless he is just super unhinged evil genius which I don't think makes any sense.
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Corrik
05/27/18 7:38:52 PM
#100:


Alakazam is town. Leave him be. I am yttering him. He is my adorable little whatever you called people that sounded dumb as hell.
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