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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 10:03:16 PM
#401:


Foolmo it was a thinking exercise to not tunel my scum reads for a moment and think of the game as if I am completely wrong. Perspective shift to adjust my thinking.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/27/18 10:03:20 PM
#402:


Shaduln posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I have not once said "lol" you disingenuous Scum.

No you just keep saying that you already said it. I don't understand your point of view. Thanks for still not explaining it though.


This is an example of a bad defense. I don't need to explain it to Shad. I'm not trying to convince him to lynch himself.
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Dark Young Link
05/27/18 10:03:22 PM
#403:


RogueNoble posted...
##Unvote

##Vote: Nana

red13n posted...
##unvote
##vote: nana


fine. I cant get zam lynched cause hes not even here to talk. There is no fun in that.


Oh, it's starting a bit early I see.
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VeryInsane
05/27/18 10:03:22 PM
#404:


[6] Chris - (Corrik), (Puns), Scare, (Corrik), Puns, (foolmo), (Leo), (Alakazam), Sceptile, Alakazam, Corrik, foolmo
[6] Prof - Shad, (MI), (Sceptile), (Leo), (Chris), (Alakazam), (Puns), (Corrik), NewDonker, Death, (Leo), Arti, (foolmo), Crescent, Chris
[3] Alakazam - (Red), (Scare), (Han), (NewDonker), (Arti), FD, prof, (Corrik), (MI), DYL
[2] Nana - Leo, Red
[1] Shad - (Han), Han
[0] Foolmo - (Chris)
[0] Han - ((Alakazam), (Chris)
[0] Corrik - (Puns,) (Shad,), (Prof), (Alakazam)
[0] DYL - (Han), (Leo)
[0] No Lynch - (Arti)
[0] FD - (Chris)
[0] Scare - (MI)

[0] Sceptile - (Chris), (MI), (Leo)
[0] Leo - (Puns)
[0] Chris - (Scare)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Day Ends at 11 PM EDT (1 hour), or when lynch reaches a majority

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Forceful_Dragon
05/27/18 10:03:59 PM
#405:


Im caught up and have a few minutes left before break ends.

Zam - the correct choice for lynch today. The underpinning perspective that carries across his posts reeks of scum.

Prof - not a terrible choice, but he's not in the same category as zam. Prof seems scummish, but zam just seems scum. That said a prof lynch is not underserved.

Chris - if scum it would be an incredible d1 lynch. But if town we are just saving scum the effort and executing their n1 kill during d1. I don't have a confident enough read to commit to that kind of risky play, not with much better options available.

Sceptile - made some not great posts, but honestly has not played enough today. More posts pls.

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My Immortal
05/27/18 10:04:00 PM
#406:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Shaduln posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I have not once said "lol" you disingenuous Scum.

No you just keep saying that you already said it. I don't understand your point of view. Thanks for still not explaining it though.


This is an example of a bad defense. I don't need to explain it to Shad. I'm not trying to convince him to lynch himself.

What about me?

I don't know your case against Shad.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 10:04:09 PM
#407:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Shaduln posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I have not once said "lol" you disingenuous Scum.

No you just keep saying that you already said it. I don't understand your point of view. Thanks for still not explaining it though.


This is an example of a bad defense. I don't need to explain it to Shad. I'm not trying to convince him to lynch himself.

Can anyone else tell me why Han originally voted me?
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Arti
05/27/18 10:04:10 PM
#408:


Chris gets two lines huh
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Crescent-Moon
05/27/18 10:04:16 PM
#409:


profDEADPOOL posted...
My Immortal posted...
What do you recall from Eaed?

Forgot was playing.

My Immortal posted...
From Shad?

Shad's very difficult for me to read.

My Immortal posted...
From Scare?

I know they've made posts, I don't really recall the details but they were content IIRC.

So... "Nothing"

"Nothing"

and

"Nothing"
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Corrik
05/27/18 10:04:22 PM
#410:


Vote for fucking Chris. He is only voting Deadpool to save himself. Vote for Chris. Now.
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My Immortal
05/27/18 10:04:28 PM
#411:


oh hey we're back to a juicy 6-6 split

-gif of ema eating-
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foolm0r0n
05/27/18 10:05:25 PM
#412:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Foolmo it was a thinking exercise to not tunel my scum reads for a moment and think of the game as if I am completely wrong. Perspective shift to adjust my thinking.

Ok, and the conclusion was you still think Prof/Scep/Han are scum?
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HanOfTheNekos
05/27/18 10:05:33 PM
#413:


Shaduln posted...
Wow Han when did you get to just be nasty while playing mafia? This is Corrik levels of being an ass.


This happens literally every time I say "I think 2+2 is 4" and people respond "WHAT THIS IS CRAZY WHAT DO YOU MEAN HAN I DONT AGREE AT ALL YOU'RE DOING SUBTRACTION WRONG".

It's aggravating to have to explain things.

That said, I am definitely heated right now and I will try to calm down as this is not fun for me or others.

Sorry Cres.
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Dark Young Link
05/27/18 10:05:34 PM
#414:


Actually no to be fair, Leo got off a Sceptile splinter vote so there's no issue with that.

But what's the reasoning behind starting a push on Nana now?
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Shaduln
05/27/18 10:05:53 PM
#415:


Corrik posted...
Vote for fucking Chris. He is only voting Deadpool to save himself. Vote for Chris. Now.

How does that make him scum? This is a terrible call to vote Chris.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 10:06:10 PM
#416:


foolm0r0n posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Foolmo it was a thinking exercise to not tunel my scum reads for a moment and think of the game as if I am completely wrong. Perspective shift to adjust my thinking.

Ok, and the conclusion was you still think Prof/Scep/Han are scum?


Yes. I can't find enough scum outside of that trio.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/27/18 10:06:11 PM
#417:


My Immortal posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Shaduln posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I have not once said "lol" you disingenuous Scum.

No you just keep saying that you already said it. I don't understand your point of view. Thanks for still not explaining it though.


This is an example of a bad defense. I don't need to explain it to Shad. I'm not trying to convince him to lynch himself.

What about me?

I don't know your case against Shad.


What are the things I said both times I said anything about Shad?
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foolm0r0n
05/27/18 10:06:12 PM
#418:


Corrik posted...
He is only voting Deadpool to save himself

This

I can't believe there's a plurality lynch on forum mafia... I guess it makes sense based on the idlers
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My Immortal
05/27/18 10:06:14 PM
#419:


VeryInsane posted...
[6] Chris - (Corrik), (Puns), Scare, (Corrik), Puns, (foolmo), (Leo), (Alakazam), Sceptile, Alakazam, Corrik, foolmo
[6] Prof - Shad, (MI), (Sceptile), (Leo), (Chris), (Alakazam), (Puns), (Corrik), NewDonker, Death, (Leo), Arti, (foolmo), Crescent, Chris


On Chris

Scare - Neutral
Puns - Positive
Sceptile - Negative
Alakazam - Negative
Corrik - ...slightly positive?
foolmo - negative

On Prof

Shad - Neutral
NewDonk - Slightly negative
Death - Slightly positive?
Arti - Neutral
Crescent - Positive
Chris - Slightly positive
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RogueNoble
05/27/18 10:06:20 PM
#420:


If we start early, we can fit in 2-3 B8 specials and have way more fun
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red13n
05/27/18 10:07:02 PM
#421:


Dark Young Link posted...
Actually no to be fair, Leo got off a Sceptile splinter vote so there's no issue with that.

But what's the reasoning behind starting a push on Nana now?


what reason is there to not push nana now?
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My Immortal
05/27/18 10:07:05 PM
#422:


Shaduln posted...
Corrik posted...
Vote for fucking Chris. He is only voting Deadpool to save himself. Vote for Chris. Now.

How does that make him scum? This is a terrible call to vote Chris.

Corrik's in tunnel mode.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 10:07:05 PM
#423:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Shaduln posted...
Wow Han when did you get to just be nasty while playing mafia? This is Corrik levels of being an ass.


This happens literally every time I say "I think 2+2 is 4" and people respond "WHAT THIS IS CRAZY WHAT DO YOU MEAN HAN I DONT AGREE AT ALL YOU'RE DOING SUBTRACTION WRONG".

It's aggravating to have to explain things.

That said, I am definitely heated right now and I will try to calm down as this is not fun for me or others.

Sorry Cres.

Like, it just irritates me when someone keeps saying I'm scum and when I ask for more information won't tell me. It especially irritates me if you're town because we're going to have to get through this.
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Nanahara715
05/27/18 10:07:29 PM
#424:


RogueNoble posted...
I forgot Nana was at a convention, but I picked him over the others because he is historically "not great" at being scum. Maybe he's improved lately, I couldn't say


Doesn't mean much coming from me, but I feel I've been better about being active when I'm scum, I've had a couple solid games on the Mafia board recentlyish.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 10:08:08 PM
#425:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
My Immortal posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Shaduln posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I have not once said "lol" you disingenuous Scum.

No you just keep saying that you already said it. I don't understand your point of view. Thanks for still not explaining it though.


This is an example of a bad defense. I don't need to explain it to Shad. I'm not trying to convince him to lynch himself.

What about me?

I don't know your case against Shad.


What are the things I said both times I said anything about Shad?

If multiple people have asked for you for more clarification, wouldn't it just make sense to say it again?
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Sceptilesolar
05/27/18 10:08:16 PM
#426:


Chris is still unclaimed, incidentally. We are well into the point where that is warranted.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/27/18 10:08:16 PM
#427:


Nana, did you see the Critical Role show?
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Arti
05/27/18 10:08:21 PM
#428:


Shaduln posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Shaduln posted...
Wow Han when did you get to just be nasty while playing mafia? This is Corrik levels of being an ass.


This happens literally every time I say "I think 2+2 is 4" and people respond "WHAT THIS IS CRAZY WHAT DO YOU MEAN HAN I DONT AGREE AT ALL YOU'RE DOING SUBTRACTION WRONG".

It's aggravating to have to explain things.

That said, I am definitely heated right now and I will try to calm down as this is not fun for me or others.

Sorry Cres.

Like, it just irritates me when someone keeps saying I'm scum and when I ask for more information won't tell me. It especially irritates me if you're town because we're going to have to get through this.

Pretty sure he subscribes to the "it's a waste to explain to scum why they're scum" but even I'm not sure why he's voting you, so who knows
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My Immortal
05/27/18 10:09:01 PM
#429:


Shaduln posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
My Immortal posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Shaduln posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I have not once said "lol" you disingenuous Scum.

No you just keep saying that you already said it. I don't understand your point of view. Thanks for still not explaining it though.


This is an example of a bad defense. I don't need to explain it to Shad. I'm not trying to convince him to lynch himself.

What about me?

I don't know your case against Shad.


What are the things I said both times I said anything about Shad?

If multiple people have asked for you for more clarification, wouldn't it just make sense to say it again?

Especially if you're trying to convince people to join you on lynching Shad.

If you're just trying to have a useless splinter vote then you're accomplishing your task!
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HanOfTheNekos
05/27/18 10:09:17 PM
#430:


Shaduln posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
My Immortal posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Shaduln posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I have not once said "lol" you disingenuous Scum.

No you just keep saying that you already said it. I don't understand your point of view. Thanks for still not explaining it though.


This is an example of a bad defense. I don't need to explain it to Shad. I'm not trying to convince him to lynch himself.

What about me?

I don't know your case against Shad.


What are the things I said both times I said anything about Shad?

If multiple people have asked for you for more clarification, wouldn't it just make sense to say it again?


If people are going to act as though I haven't given any explanation, then no. They should play the game instead of saying dumb things.

MI hasn't done that though so maybe.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 10:10:07 PM
#431:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
If people are going to act as though I haven't given any explanation, then no. They should play the game instead of saying dumb things.

This is being ingenuous. I haven't said you didn't give any explanation. I said I didn't get your explanation.
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My Immortal
05/27/18 10:10:17 PM
#432:


I'm not saying you haven't given any explanation, I'm saying I don't recall your explanations and I'm multitasking and can't go looking for them now so I would appreciate an explanation.

Even just a post number of where you've said stuff before would help.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 10:11:00 PM
#433:


Wow I meant disingenuous. Words.
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RogueNoble
05/27/18 10:11:10 PM
#434:


I kind of like Shad if only because I also didn't understand a lot of the arguments against Chris earlier. Not that I didn't agree with them, I found them difficult to grok
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Shaduln
05/27/18 10:11:55 PM
#435:


grok
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Dark Young Link
05/27/18 10:12:01 PM
#436:


red13n posted...

what reason is there to not push nana now?


Having a stronger scum read on Zam for starters.

Still waiting for an explanation as to why he's town. I hear people saying "He's town" but I don't recall them really stating why.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 10:12:29 PM
#437:


I have made it clear I am not claiming today.
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Corrik
05/27/18 10:12:38 PM
#438:


My Immortal posted...
Shaduln posted...
Corrik posted...
Vote for fucking Chris. He is only voting Deadpool to save himself. Vote for Chris. Now.

How does that make him scum? This is a terrible call to vote Chris.

Corrik's in tunnel mode.

I'll tunnel scum everyday of the week. It's sad the fucking Miller is the strongest town player in this game. Let's go. Finish him. Make him.claim. he is in a corner. His claim will reveal.he is scum.
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foolm0r0n
05/27/18 10:13:04 PM
#439:


Shaduln posted...
How does that make him scum? This is a terrible call to vote Chris.

He says it's because he thinks Prof is scum, but all his actions are protective of Prof. The last thing he said was in 3.117 and it was about Prof's ONE post back in the first topic. I realize Prof has high votes already, but when your life is on the life, make a god damn argument against the guy you're trying to kill.

Chris do you find anything scummy with Prof's latest posts? Especially his top 3 lists? Like come on
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 10:13:57 PM
#440:


foolm0r0n posted...
Shaduln posted...
How does that make him scum? This is a terrible call to vote Chris.

He says it's because he thinks Prof is scum, but all his actions are protective of Prof. The last thing he said was in 3.117 and it was about Prof's ONE post back in the first topic. I realize Prof has high votes already, but when your life is on the life, make a god damn argument against the guy you're trying to kill.

Chris do you find anything scummy with Prof's latest posts? Especially his top 3 lists? Like come on


Actually haven't really been reading prof's posts much and focusing on other people until now. More than one scum foolmo geesh calm down.
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foolm0r0n
05/27/18 10:14:15 PM
#441:


I addressed that in my post so answer my question
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foolm0r0n
05/27/18 10:14:37 PM
#442:


Chris doesn't care about town winning. That's it.
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Shaduln
05/27/18 10:14:46 PM
#443:


foolm0r0n posted...
Shaduln posted...
How does that make him scum? This is a terrible call to vote Chris.

He says it's because he thinks Prof is scum, but all his actions are protective of Prof. The last thing he said was in 3.117 and it was about Prof's ONE post back in the first topic. I realize Prof has high votes already, but when your life is on the life, make a god damn argument against the guy you're trying to kill.

Chris do you find anything scummy with Prof's latest posts? Especially his top 3 lists? Like come on

Yeah but saying someone is voting their counter lynch is scummy is dumb. If you're town, the best thing you can do for town (unless you know you're saving a power role for instance) is to not die because you're the only person you know is 100% town.
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foolm0r0n
05/27/18 10:16:03 PM
#444:


Shaduln posted...
Yeah but saying someone is voting their counter lynch is scummy is dumb.

Yes Corrik is dumb, won't argue that

I just wanted to piggy back off that by pointing out there genuine scumminess in Chris' vote
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 10:16:16 PM
#445:


Oh FINE.

He has no consistency in his read list. Where A + B should = C, he is just saying things. There should be no world where a town Deadpool has the spine to challenge town chris and town corrik (in his world view he stated) on a lynch (alakazam) but for his reads list to be pure he would have to think his read on alakazam is worth more than me and corrik, which is divorced from reality.

I also thought his town read on crecsent was weak as fuck.
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foolm0r0n
05/27/18 10:16:33 PM
#446:


I should eat...
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foolm0r0n
05/27/18 10:17:03 PM
#447:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Oh FINE.

He has no consistency in his read list. Where A + B should = C, he is just saying things. There should be no world where a town Deadpool has the spine to challenge town chris and town corrik (in his world view he stated) on a lynch (alakazam) but for his reads list to be pure he would have to think his read on alakazam is worth more than me and corrik, which is divorced from reality.

I also thought his town read on crecsent was weak as fuck.

Cool thx bb
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profDEADPOOL
05/27/18 10:17:46 PM
#448:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Oh FINE.

He has no consistency in his read list. Where A + B should = C, he is just saying things. There should be no world where a town Deadpool has the spine to challenge town chris and town corrik (in his world view he stated) on a lynch (alakazam) but for his reads list to be pure he would have to think his read on alakazam is worth more than me and corrik, which is divorced from reality.

I also thought his town read on crecsent was weak as fuck.

So actually trying to have a spine for once means I can't be town?

K.
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red13n
05/27/18 10:17:47 PM
#449:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
I also thought his town read on crecsent was weak as fuck.


yeah but prof thinking a weak argument is profound is pretty much what i'd expect from him.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/18 10:17:49 PM
#450:


yw sweetie
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