Current Events > Is it true that Iceman and Colossus have been retconned to be gay? (X-Men)

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ssj-kenobi
05/13/18 8:54:55 AM
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lol why do they do that? why not make a new character that was gay?
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JE19426
05/13/18 8:57:36 AM
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Ultimate Colossus has always been gay. I haven't heard anything about mainline Colossus. Iceman has been retconned as gay.
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Foppe
05/13/18 8:58:53 AM
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Didnt this happen years ago?
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SSJ2GrimReaper
05/13/18 8:58:58 AM
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main Colossus is marrying Kitty in the comics rn
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CappinGoat
05/13/18 9:00:32 AM
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Yeah pretty sure colossus has been nailing Kitty for like a decade.
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creativerealms
05/13/18 9:35:07 AM
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Half true. Colossus was made gay in the ultimate universe but not in the main universe as far as I know. Yes for iceman. I hate teen Jean.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
05/13/18 9:46:37 AM
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AlisLandale
05/13/18 9:49:08 AM
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SSJ2GrimReaper
05/13/18 9:51:40 AM
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NeonOctopus
05/13/18 9:52:09 AM
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Wasn't there literally a part where Colossus is fucking the shit out of Kitty and during the passion of it, she accidentally phases through the bed and falls naked into the living room in front of everyone. I dont think he's gay >_>
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boxington
05/13/18 9:55:34 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
https://imgur.com/tgUZ3WV

did Jean just use her powers to make him gay??
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Foppe
05/13/18 9:56:03 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Wasn't there literally a part where Colossus is fucking the shit out of Kitty and during the passion of it, she accidentally phases through the bed and falls naked into the living room in front of everyone. I dont think he's gay >_>

https://imgur.com/gallery/ncn8i
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cjsdowg
05/13/18 9:56:04 AM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
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He should have ice her brain over for that one. She is wrong on 15 different levels.
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NeonOctopus
05/13/18 9:57:07 AM
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Foppe posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
Wasn't there literally a part where Colossus is fucking the shit out of Kitty and during the passion of it, she accidentally phases through the bed and falls naked into the living room in front of everyone. I dont think he's gay >_>

https://imgur.com/gallery/ncn8i

Nice lol
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pegusus123456
05/13/18 10:03:52 AM
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boxington posted...
AlisLandale posted...
https://imgur.com/tgUZ3WV

did Jean just use her powers to make him gay??

There should be a mutant with that power

Rob a bank?

BAM

You're gay now

Vandalize a bathroom in the gay club?

BAM

You like pussy now
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hollow_shrine
05/13/18 10:13:59 AM
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Colossus is only gay in the Ultimate universe, Marvel 1610. That universe was literally destroyed as a result of a recent crossover with everyone dying except like Mile Morales. That was the edgelord universe featuring awful things like Magneto being completely insane, Blob and Hulk literally eating people, Neocon-fascist-America-first-Pro-torture Steve Rogers, Incest twins Pietro and Wanda Maximoff, pedo-wolverine (he sleeps with a teenage Jean Grey despite being like 100 years old), etc. When Bendis cared, it had good moments. But it has way more eye rolling edgelording.

Iceman being gay is a reference to some experimentation Bobby did relatively recently, ending with him coming out. That's not necessarily a retcon because it acknowledges that he's had past relationships, also he could be bisexual, so whatever. I'd like to remind you all that Nightcrawler and Wolverine have had sex with one another at least once, and they've both had relationships with women in the past and since.

The real gag is the temporally displaced teenage Jean Grey capriciously outing a temporally displace Iceman who has lived none of the experiences that allowed his older counterpart to come to terms with his sexuality. In addition to it being an asshole thing to do, Ms. Grey, it's completely undeserved because we've not established Iceman's shitty romantic history yet, and he's basically fourteen.
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Guy_Fieri
05/13/18 10:16:30 AM
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hollow_shrine posted...
I'd like to remind you all that Nightcrawler and Wolverine have had sex with one another at least once

was Wolverine the bottom
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hollow_shrine
05/13/18 10:18:40 AM
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Guy_Fieri posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
I'd like to remind you all that Nightcrawler and Wolverine have had sex with one another at least once

was Wolverine the bottom

We did the tasteful fade to black implication, so we don't actually know. Personally, I think Wolverine has too much experience to be anything but vers.
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creativerealms
05/13/18 10:20:30 AM
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boxington posted...
AlisLandale posted...
https://imgur.com/tgUZ3WV

did Jean just use her powers to make him gay??

I think that's the implication, yeah screw Teen Jean.
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KainFourteh
05/13/18 10:22:39 AM
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hollow_shrine posted...
I'd like to remind you all that Nightcrawler and Wolverine have had sex with one another at least once


What, that's not even remotely true.
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Guy_Fieri
05/13/18 10:25:23 AM
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KainFourteh posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
I'd like to remind you all that Nightcrawler and Wolverine have had sex with one another at least once


What, that's not even remotely true.

WHAT IS THE TRUTH??

Did Wolverine take blue dong up the butt or not
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hollow_shrine
05/13/18 10:37:22 AM
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KainFourteh posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
I'd like to remind you all that Nightcrawler and Wolverine have had sex with one another at least once


What, that's not even remotely true.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Wolverine_Vol_3_6

https://imgur.com/5mpztJ8
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KainFourteh
05/13/18 12:20:20 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
KainFourteh posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
I'd like to remind you all that Nightcrawler and Wolverine have had sex with one another at least once


What, that's not even remotely true.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Wolverine_Vol_3_6

https://imgur.com/5mpztJ8


You're trying to say it happened because of a cover? Really? It didn't.
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Reis
05/13/18 12:20:40 PM
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Colossus is alive!?!?
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JE19426
05/13/18 12:21:27 PM
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Reis posted...
Colossus is alive!?!?


Yes.
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yusiko
05/13/18 12:24:37 PM
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shadowcat is back?
i thought she was blasted off into space inside a missile or something in a self sacrifice quasi death scene
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mach25687
05/13/18 12:27:07 PM
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yusiko posted...
shadowcat is back?
i thought she was blasted off into space inside a missile or something in a self sacrifice quasi death scene

I thought it double back to earth and they save her?
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JE19426
05/13/18 12:28:42 PM
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yusiko posted...
shadowcat is back?
i thought she was blasted off into space inside a missile or something in a self sacrifice quasi death scene


Magneto saved her.
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KainFourteh
05/13/18 12:29:50 PM
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mach25687 posted...
yusiko posted...
shadowcat is back?
i thought she was blasted off into space inside a missile or something in a self sacrifice quasi death scene

I thought it double back to earth and they save her?


Nah. Magneto brought it back to earth to save her and shrunk it, she fell out of it.

She was stuck in her phased form for a while, unable to communicate or touch anyone.
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SSJ2GrimReaper
05/13/18 12:31:39 PM
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Nobody ever stays dead in comics unless it's some obscure character that no one knows and/or cares about
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ScarIetess
05/13/18 12:31:41 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
https://imgur.com/tgUZ3WV

That may be the worst character development I've ever read.

Like did he just happen to be thinking about passionate gay sex?
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KainFourteh
05/13/18 12:36:09 PM
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ScarIetess posted...
AlisLandale posted...
https://imgur.com/tgUZ3WV

That may be the worst character development I've ever read.

Like did he just happen to be thinking about passionate gay sex?


She basically said he must be gay because he was the only one of the boys not attracted to her.

While the retcon is bad on its own, it's written and handled even worse, with O5 Jean coming off as an invasive, manipulative bitch.
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UnfairRepresent
05/14/18 3:28:32 PM
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Could Coloussus fuck Rogue if he was in metal form?
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Zikten
05/14/18 3:31:40 PM
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shouldn't Colossus be in prison over his role in AvX?
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KainFourteh
05/14/18 4:09:40 PM
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Zikten posted...
shouldn't Colossus be in prison over his role in AvX?


Shit gets hand waved after long enough. Cyclops and Emma are the only ones that were detained for any length of time.
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dameon_reaper
05/14/18 4:14:10 PM
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creativerealms posted...
boxington posted...
AlisLandale posted...
https://imgur.com/tgUZ3WV

did Jean just use her powers to make him gay??

I think that's the implication, yeah screw Teen Jean.


Didn't she only just kinda read his mind and realize he's hiding behind it? She didn't make him gay, she kinda told him to stop hiding it.

Also Kitty has been with two Peters...I swore she was still with Quill but apparently she changed back.
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kuwab0
05/14/18 4:14:44 PM
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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...
main Colossus is marrying Kitty in the comics rn

Star-Lord is wimpy compared to Giant Metal Russian C***
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yusiko
05/14/18 4:14:56 PM
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i wish kitty had been in the original X-men cartoon instead of jubilee
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hollow_shrine
05/14/18 4:17:32 PM
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kuwab0 posted...
SSJ2GrimReaper posted...
main Colossus is marrying Kitty in the comics rn

Star-Lord is wimpy compared to Giant Metal Russian C***

Also Star Lord is kind of immature and selfish at times, kind of like MCU Peter.

I'm actually surprised Kitty and Peter didn't try and get married back in the nineties. They would have done it like a decade ago had the writers not been waiting behind every corner to put a wrench in things.

EDIT: BTW, I'm pretty sure the word 'cock' doesn't violate ToS. Much more terse words, and similar language (like the word 'dick') are allowed.
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JE19426
05/14/18 7:02:20 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
I'm actually surprised Kitty and Peter didn't try and get married back in the nineties.


For most of the 90s Kitty believed Colossus was dead, and she moved on to date Peter Wisdom. I'm pretty that Colossus killed himself to stop the Legacy virus, not long after Kitty and Wisdom split up.
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