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Eddv
05/14/18 4:16:37 PM
#251:


I am beginning to see him as Lawful Evil Corrik
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Peace___Frog
05/14/18 4:19:30 PM
#252:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
How can you call yourself a Conservative if you think the government is allowed to kill you as long as they tell you first?

Corrik doesn't care about small government.

He just wants to protect the status quo, and damn everyone who is against it.
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LapisLazuli
05/14/18 4:19:50 PM
#253:


Eddv posted...
I am beginning to see him as Lawful Evil Corrik


Can you be on the lawful scale if you end your horrible comment with dumb emotes?
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Jakyl25
05/14/18 5:02:45 PM
#254:


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/996129630913482755?s=21

The so-called leaks coming out of the White House are a massive over exaggeration put out by the Fake News Media in order to make us look as bad as possible. With that being said, leakers are traitors and cowards, and we will find out who they are!


We will absolutely find these leakers who do not exist!
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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 5:09:41 PM
#255:


I remember calling out Israel in this topic like 8 months ago or something and everyone got all upset and called me anti-semetic.

You guys are weird.
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Jakyl25
05/14/18 5:13:14 PM
#256:


IIRC you said something like Isnt it interesting that Jewish people are disproportionately in positions of power in America?
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Mr Lasastryke
05/14/18 5:14:56 PM
#257:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I remember calling out Israel in this topic like 8 months ago or something and everyone got all upset and called me anti-semetic.


people were calling you anti-semitic for saying "there's merit to the fact that a lot of high ranking people the world over are jews." whether or not that was warranted is a different discussion, but it's rather disingenuous to say all you did was "call out israel" to get that reaction.
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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 5:17:09 PM
#258:


Alongside all of that was me scratching my head at how the US constantly caters to Israel. There's a connection between the two things I said whether you want to admit it or not.

Either way I'm being the bigger guy by not calling you all Nazis for your hand wringing about Israel vs. Palestine pt. 9001

You're welcome.
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NFUN
05/14/18 5:19:34 PM
#259:


wtf
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Eddv
05/14/18 5:22:05 PM
#260:


It is interesting how many anti Semites voted for trump
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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 5:24:13 PM
#261:


Seems to me the anti semites are the ones who don't think Israel has a right to defend its borders but what do I know *shrug*
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Jakyl25
05/14/18 5:24:59 PM
#262:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Alongside all of that was me scratching my head at how the US constantly caters to Israel. There's a connection between the two things I said whether you want to admit it or not.


I really dont think theres much connection. We look the other way at Israel doing awful things the same way we do for Saudi Arabia, and it is really a bunch of bullshit in both cases.

Unless youre arguing in the OTHER directionthat the success of Jewish people in America has led to lobbyist money influencing our position on Israel. I could maybe get behind that theory with more evidence.
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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 5:28:31 PM
#263:


Was that not obvious from what I was saying?

Either way I don't REALLY care enough and I obviously think Israel is behaving atrociously today but I just was annoyed at the reactions.
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Jakyl25
05/14/18 5:32:12 PM
#264:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Was that not obvious from what I was saying?


Not really. I assumed you were alluding to /pol/ conspiracy rhetoric

Lobbyists control politicians isnt really that controversial of an opinion
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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 5:34:05 PM
#265:


Hence why I was so annoyed at the reaction you guys had.
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Peace___Frog
05/14/18 5:40:37 PM
#266:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Seems to me the anti semites are the ones who don't think Israel has a right to defend its borders but what do I know *shrug*

It's not a defense of its borders, it's a willful destruction of its neighbors.
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CelesMyUserName
05/14/18 5:41:20 PM
#267:


<archivist duties>

ExThaNemesis posted...
I remember calling out Israel in this topic like 8 months ago or something and everyone got all upset and called me anti-semetic.

You guys are weird.

you are remembering inaccurately

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ExThaNemesis posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
I wish I could understand the differences mentally as to why that specific rhetoric didnt work on you as it did to so many


I don't really fall into the cult-like stuff that ANY of the big political ideologies seem to do. I'm also pretty self-serving in that I use the bits of PUA/redpill that work for me and distance myself from the rest.

I was militant atheist before anything else, so there was never any chance for the super christian guys in the redpill sphere to sway me. I guess I could maybe understand their point that a majority Christian society may be the best route to go, but I can't ever subscribe to it myself because there simply isn't a god. There is not. I know that there isn't and I couldn't even pretend if I wanted to at this point.

As far as anti-Semitism stuff goes, I do think there's merit to the fact that a lot of high ranking people world over are Jews and I give hard eye rolls at all the coverage Israel gets, but I don't think the correct response to that is ALL JEWS ARE BAD.


from the only topic where Extha is involved where the word "Israel" is mentioned, your post is the first to mention Israel but is a non-sequitur that only superficially references the conflict "I give hard eye rolls at all the coverage Israel gets" under the broader topic of antisemitism.

Antisemitism was brought to the discussion beforehand Jakyl in the post you quoted but clipped out

Jakyl25 posted...
ExTha, youre an interesting case in that you agree with a number of alt-right talking points, but you didnt follow them down the path of selective Christian Puritanism and anti-Semitism as people such as Vlado and Ulti have.


A topic on the alt-right neo-nazi ideology, not of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
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CelesMyUserName
05/14/18 5:41:23 PM
#268:


Nobody has posted in defense of Israel or honestly responded much on that take for the most part since it wasn't the main topic, although there are 2 posts that do respond on it

Jakyl25 posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
I give hard eye rolls at all the coverage Israel gets

Do you at least understand why that is? Not in a Jews control the media sense but why Israel is kind of a big deal to us?


and

Not_an_Owl posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
Like seriously though why can't I be in the middle on this. The two options cannot possibly be KILL JEWS or JEWS ARE GREAT

ffs


Hot take: Jews are fine, Israel is bad.


Jakyl would thus be the closest to trying to defend or rather explain US coverage of Israel but nobody responds so that discussion thread closes up there.

Owl is simply agreeing with you.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/14/18 5:42:12 PM
#269:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Hence why I was so annoyed at the reaction you guys had.


perhaps you should have worded it more clearly?
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HanOfTheNekos
05/14/18 5:42:27 PM
#270:


Peace___Frog posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
Seems to me the anti semites are the ones who don't think Israel has a right to defend its borders but what do I know *shrug*

It's not a defense of its borders, it's a willful destruction of its neighbors.


Anti-semite alert
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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 5:45:02 PM
#271:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Anti-semite alert


IK you're being facetious here but this is literally what Isreali defenders are going to say en-masse today.

It's why you should be a little more choosy when you throw it out there I think.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/14/18 5:45:04 PM
#272:


and yeah, nobody actually called extha anti-semitic.

personally i wasn't going to give extha crap for that as some people kind of insinuated he was being anti-semitic (like rock), but still.
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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 5:45:21 PM
#273:


also GMun do you have dates on those? Was it 8 months ago?
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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 5:46:21 PM
#274:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
perhaps you should have worded it more clearly?


Fair enough I guess.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/14/18 5:47:25 PM
#275:


it took place on january 20th of this year.
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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 5:47:48 PM
#276:


Damn. Felt like longer.
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Forceful_Dragon
05/14/18 5:50:58 PM
#277:


CelesMyUserName posted...
</archivist duties>


GMUN is the hero that B8 needs.
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CelesMyUserName
05/14/18 5:52:02 PM
#278:


Some people raise eyebrows at Ex's "high ranking people world over are Jews" comment, someone asks him why that would pique his interest, Ex kinda tempers down by responding it doesn't "really"

it's pretty much contained in Extha's response post so I'll just quote that one

ExThaNemesis posted...
banananor posted...
what is it about this particular fact that intrigues you?

Nothing, really.

Jakyl just brought up anti-semitism and I put forth my (what I thought to be) mild thoughts on the matter.

And then the group who can't understand why they're considered the little boy who cried Nazi started acting as though I had just admitted to being a Nazi or something.

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ChaosTonyV4
05/14/18 5:53:44 PM
#279:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k06lLDDe-b4" data-time="

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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 5:55:32 PM
#280:


I remember why I was so annoyed back then.

You guys annoy the shit out of me sometimes, god damn.
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Jakyl25
05/14/18 6:01:37 PM
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Mr Lasastryke
05/14/18 6:02:02 PM
#282:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I remember why I was so annoyed back then.


namely?

it wasn't being called an anti-semite as GMUN elabortately demonstrated, so...
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Corrik
05/14/18 6:03:00 PM
#283:


I really do not understand why Liberals are so anti law enforcement. I really wish I understood it.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/14/18 6:04:06 PM
#284:


Corrik posted...
I really do not understand why Liberals are so anti law enforcement.


we're anti-law enforcement when the law in question sucks. it's not all that complicated.
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Jakyl25
05/14/18 6:04:21 PM
#285:


Asking for accountability from police is anti-law-enforcement?
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HanOfTheNekos
05/14/18 6:05:13 PM
#286:


ExThaNemesis posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Anti-semite alert


IK you're being facetious here but this is literally what Isreali defenders are going to say en-masse today.

It's why you should be a little more choosy when you throw it out there I think.


I don't think you're in a position to tell people to be more choosy with their words?
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Kenri
05/14/18 6:05:14 PM
#287:


Jakyl25 posted...
Asking for accountability from police is anti-law-enforcement?

Police say it is so it must be!!!
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ExThaNemesis
05/14/18 6:09:15 PM
#288:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
it wasn't being called an anti-semite as GMUN elabortately demonstrated, so...


Implication was definitely there don't be an ass.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/14/18 6:13:21 PM
#289:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Implication was definitely there don't be an ass.


fair enough. it just seemed weird because you remembered people explicitly saying you were anti-semitic. you'd think you'd be less annoyed when seeing it wasn't that bad, but instead you doubled down and went "GODDAMN YOU GUYS ANNOY THE SHIT OUT OF ME."
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LapisLazuli
05/14/18 6:28:35 PM
#290:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I remember why I was so annoyed back then.

You guys annoy the shit out of me sometimes, god damn.


You came into the topic for the first time in weeks, unprovoked, to complain about people saying a bunch of shit to you 4 months ago that didn't actually happen.

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Corrik
05/14/18 6:29:27 PM
#291:


Jakyl25 posted...
Asking for accountability from police is anti-law-enforcement?

Let me just ask you this. How many times have you personally posted positively about law enforcement and how many times have you posted negatively?

It doesn't matter if you are supposedly just wishing for accountability. It matters how it is framed. If you only post when you can post something negatively or you can take something a little bit questionably to say it is negative, then you are anti law enforcement yes.
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Corrik
05/14/18 6:31:22 PM
#292:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
Corrik posted...
I really do not understand why Liberals are so anti law enforcement.


we're anti-law enforcement when the law in question sucks. it's not all that complicated.

I disagree. I feel that you all in general seem to automatically assume the cop is wrong every time without waiting for details, that if it is in any way possible that the cop is in the wrong that you deem him wrong, and that you do not take into account context or even for a second think about it from the cops point of view.
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LapisLazuli
05/14/18 6:31:35 PM
#293:


In what situation would posting positively about law enforcement be newsworthy? Feel good stories? There's nothing to discuss there.

The argument of "you should be posting positive stories just as often" is incredibly disengenuous in just about every newsfield.
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CelesMyUserName
05/14/18 6:33:10 PM
#294:


Corrik posted...
Let me just ask you this. How many times have you personally posted positively about law enforcement and how many times have you posted negatively?

It doesn't matter if you are supposedly just wishing for accountability. It matters how it is framed. If you only post when you can post something negatively or you can take something a little bit questionably to say it is negative, then you are anti law enforcement yes.

this is an incredibly dumb argument

police doing their job properly isn't a "news story", of course most stories will be negative

how many news stories have you seen of "Teacher informs 1st grader how to add two-digit numbers"?
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Jakyl25
05/14/18 6:34:13 PM
#295:


Corrik posted...

Let me just ask you this. How many times have you personally posted positively about law enforcement and how many times have you posted negatively?

It doesn't matter if you are supposedly just wishing for accountability. It matters how it is framed. If you only post when you can post something negatively or you can take something a little bit questionably to say it is negative, then you are anti law enforcement yes.


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StealThisSheen
05/14/18 6:36:54 PM
#296:


CelesMyUserName posted...
Corrik posted...
Let me just ask you this. How many times have you personally posted positively about law enforcement and how many times have you posted negatively?

It doesn't matter if you are supposedly just wishing for accountability. It matters how it is framed. If you only post when you can post something negatively or you can take something a little bit questionably to say it is negative, then you are anti law enforcement yes.

this is an incredibly dumb argument

police doing their job properly isn't a "news story", of course most stories will be negative

how many news stories have you seen of "Teacher informs 1st grader how to add two-digit numbers"?


I believe "SEP remembered to take the trash out" made headlines everywhere, sir.
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Peace___Frog
05/14/18 6:44:04 PM
#297:


Peaf completed a work assignment on time! New front page story in the nyt! Read all about it!
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Jakyl25
05/14/18 7:07:18 PM
#298:


https://twitter.com/mairavz/status/996100055240032256?s=21

Very very encouraged that these people are standing up for whats right in Israel
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Mr Lasastryke
05/14/18 7:09:46 PM
#299:


LapisLazuli posted...
You came into the topic for the first time in weeks, unprovoked, to complain about people saying a bunch of shit to you 4 months ago that didn't actually happen.

But yeah, everyone else are the annoying ones.


this. also, apparently he doesn't realize that he's getting treated pretty goddamn nicely here if there's only one incident from four months ago (that didn't actually happen the way he says it did) that bothers him to the point of bringing it up again. if i were to complain about all the shit people have thrown at me in the history of this topic series, this topic would reach 500 in no time.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/14/18 7:11:44 PM
#300:


Corrik posted...
How many times have you personally posted positively about law enforcement and how many times have you posted negatively?


how many times have you posted positively about liberals and how many times have you posted negatively?
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