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PerfectChaosZ 05/12/18 2:40:05 PM #151:	She was a politicion from my state, so I know a ton of people who hate Pelosi just for taking down the Confederate Flag off the sate building. I hear things like, "Well she isn't taking down any flags where she is now!" <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:901227956] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>She was a politicion from my state, so I know a ton of people who hate Pelosi just for taking down the Confederate Flag off the sate building. I hear things like, "Well she isn't taking down any flags where she is now!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 05/12/18 2:41:42 PM #152:	It seems to me like Republicans tend to be more strategic, in the sense that they will vote for the lesser of two evils and do whatever it takes to keep their overall agenda advancing even if they have to compromise aspects of it, while Democrats tend to approach politics more passionately. They're a lot less likely to vote for someone or something they hate even if it might help them win votes later, if it doesn't meet their standards on its own merits they won't support it. Democrats need to really like what they're voting for, while Republicans just need to really dislike what they're voting against. --- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:901228026] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>It seems to me like Republicans tend to be more strategic, in the sense that they will vote for the lesser of two evils and do whatever it takes to keep their overall agenda advancing even if they have to compromise aspects of it, while Democrats tend to approach politics more passionately. They're a lot less likely to vote for someone or something they hate even if it might help them win votes later, if it doesn't meet their standards on its own merits they won't support it. Democrats need to really like what they're voting for, while Republicans just need to really dislike what they're voting against.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 05/12/18 2:51:30 PM #153:	Corrik posted... Btw the Republicans have done anything but fall into line lately in Congress. They've done nothing but fall in line, especially lately lmao red sox 777 posted... Yes, generally one uses words to mean what they want them to mean, and sometimes different people use the same words to mean different things. You're right and this is a great point. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:901228545] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Btw the Republicans have done anything but fall into line lately in Congress.</quote> They've done nothing but fall in line, especially lately lmao <cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, generally one uses words to mean what they want them to mean, and sometimes different people use the same words to mean different things.</quote> You're right and this is a great point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 05/12/18 3:15:48 PM #154:	Corrik posted... red sox 777 posted... Yes, generally one uses words to mean what they want them to mean, and sometimes different people use the same words to mean different things. But I wasn't the one who applied these particular words, which IIRC Bill Clinton used to talk about voters, to congressional representatives. Btw the Republicans have done anything but fall into line lately in Congress. That applies more to voters than representatives. I mean, they've fallen in line with the big republican donors. If the Koch brothers want it passed, it gets passed. They have done things that piss off their constituents, and done things that piss off Donald Trump, though, so...sure. --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:901229684] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, generally one uses words to mean what they want them to mean, and sometimes different people use the same words to mean different things. But I wasn't the one who applied these particular words, which IIRC Bill Clinton used to talk about voters, to congressional representatives.</quote> Btw the Republicans have done anything but fall into line lately in Congress. That applies more to voters than representatives.</quote> I mean, they've fallen in line with the big republican donors. If the Koch brothers want it passed, it gets passed. They have done things that piss off their constituents, and done things that piss off Donald Trump, though, so...sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/12/18 4:08:59 PM #155:	https://www.cbsnews.com/news/at-fda-tvs-now-turned-to-fox-news-and-cant-be-switched/ Uhhhhhhhh --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901232122] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/at-fda-tvs-now-turned-to-fox-news-and-cant-be-switched/ Uhhhhhhhh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/12/18 4:33:29 PM #156:	Kenri posted... Corrik posted... Btw the Republicans have done anything but fall into line lately in Congress. They've done nothing but fall in line, especially lately lmao red sox 777 posted... Yes, generally one uses words to mean what they want them to mean, and sometimes different people use the same words to mean different things. You're right and this is a great point. How? The Obamacare repeal? --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901233192] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Btw the Republicans have done anything but fall into line lately in Congress.</quote> They've done nothing but fall in line, especially lately lmao <cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, generally one uses words to mean what they want them to mean, and sometimes different people use the same words to mean different things.</quote> You're right and this is a great point.</quote> How? The Obamacare repeal?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/12/18 4:39:31 PM #157:	To be fair, that was just 3 Republicans --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901233474] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, that was just 3 Republicans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/12/18 4:43:32 PM #158:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted... https://twitter.com/ap/status/995020899014373376?s=21 BREAKING: Pompeo: US to assist North Korea with its economy if it gets rid of nuclear weapons. ....didnt we just scrap this exact same sort of deal with someone else? Long story short. No. Ill take the long story The Iran deal was never ratified by Congress. It is a timed deal til 2030 that doesn't require to my knowledge a removal of uranium or nuclear materials but just a halting of the process. It is with a country that is currently in conflict with forces that we are working with in Syria and in backdoor conflict with multiple of our allies in Saudi Arabia and Israel. I also hear that the investigators in Iran were extremely limited in what they could do with their investigations. The differences here is that the country is not in conflict with our allies. It would be for complete nuclear disarmament (they have nukes unlike Iran who wasn't quite there yet). If sent to Congress it will be ratified. It is with a country that made multiple threats to our Homeland with weapons in theory capable of doing it. It is also relative to believe that the deal would not be time limited and also would held to higher standards of the Iran deal (which Trump argued needed to be renegotiated because too weak). Also it will not be a deal in which we will have to concede not preserving a red line and retaliating against chemical weapons from a dictator we warned about the usage of them. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901233668] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/ap/status/995020899014373376?s=21 <quote>BREAKING: Pompeo: US to assist North Korea with its economy if it gets rid of nuclear weapons.</quote> ....didnt we just scrap this exact same sort of deal with someone else?</quote> Long story short. No.</quote> Ill take the long story</quote> The Iran deal was never ratified by Congress. It is a timed deal til 2030 that doesn't require to my knowledge a removal of uranium or nuclear materials but just a halting of the process. It is with a country that is currently in conflict with forces that we are working with in Syria and in backdoor conflict with multiple of our allies in Saudi Arabia and Israel. I also hear that the investigators in Iran were extremely limited in what they could do with their investigations. The differences here is that the country is not in conflict with our allies. It would be for complete nuclear disarmament (they have nukes unlike Iran who wasn't quite there yet). If sent to Congress it will be ratified. It is with a country that made multiple threats to our Homeland with weapons in theory capable of doing it. It is also relative to believe that the deal would not be time limited and also would held to higher standards of the Iran deal (which Trump argued needed to be renegotiated because too weak). Also it will not be a deal in which we will have to concede not preserving a red line and retaliating against chemical weapons from a dictator we warned about the usage of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/12/18 4:43:58 PM #159:	Jakyl25 posted... To be fair, that was just 3 Republicans They didn't fall into line. It caused it to fail. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901233687] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>To be fair, that was just 3 Republicans</quote> They didn't fall into line. It caused it to fail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 05/12/18 4:56:50 PM #160:	Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted... To be fair, that was just 3 Republicans They didn't fall into line. It caused it to fail. 3 people is an exception, not a rule. Edit: And one of those people, John McCain, is being thoroughly dragged as a literal traitor for it. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:901234248] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>To be fair, that was just 3 Republicans</quote> They didn't fall into line. It caused it to fail.</quote> 3 people is an exception, not a rule. Edit: And one of those people, John McCain, is being thoroughly dragged as a literal traitor for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/12/18 5:23:44 PM #161:	Yeah, that healthcare bill was not falling in line, but the whole thing was always more about voters. And with Susan Collins, she followed what the people of her state wanted, so that's understandable and consistent with falling in line with her constituents. Lisa Murkowski was openly threatened by Trump with retribution for Alaska if she voted no, so she had to do what any self-respecting Republican would do and stand her ground. That leaves McCain, who is taking all the blame for that vote. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:901235491] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that healthcare bill was not falling in line, but the whole thing was always more about voters. And with Susan Collins, she followed what the people of her state wanted, so that's understandable and consistent with falling in line with her constituents. Lisa Murkowski was openly threatened by Trump with retribution for Alaska if she voted no, so she had to do what any self-respecting Republican would do and stand her ground. That leaves McCain, who is taking all the blame for that vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JonThePenguin 05/12/18 5:33:06 PM #162:	Corrik posted... I also hear that the investigators in Iran were extremely limited in what they could do with their investigations. Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the global nuclear watchdog, continuously monitor Iran's declared nuclear sites and also verify that no fissile material is moved covertly to a secret location to build a bomb. Iran also agreed to implement the Additional Protocol to their IAEA Safeguards Agreement, which allows inspectors to access any site anywhere in the country they deem suspicious. Until 2031, Iran will have 24 days to comply with any IAEA access request. If it refuses, an eight-member Joint Commission - including Iran - will rule on the issue. It can decide on punitive steps, including the reimposition of sanctions. A majority vote by the commission suffices. --- JonThePenguin http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=erunion <cite>JonThePenguin posted [p:901235934] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I also hear that the investigators in Iran were extremely limited in what they could do with their investigations.</quote> <quote>Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the global nuclear watchdog, continuously monitor Iran's declared nuclear sites and also verify that no fissile material is moved covertly to a secret location to build a bomb. Iran also agreed to implement the Additional Protocol to their IAEA Safeguards Agreement, which allows inspectors to access any site anywhere in the country they deem suspicious. Until 2031, Iran will have 24 days to comply with any IAEA access request. If it refuses, an eight-member Joint Commission - including Iran - will rule on the issue. It can decide on punitive steps, including the reimposition of sanctions. A majority vote by the commission suffices.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 05/12/18 7:46:14 PM #163:	Gee, it's almost like the things that corrik hears are really only the things he wants to hear. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:901242243] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>Gee, it's almost like the things that corrik hears are really only the things he wants to hear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 05/12/18 11:45:34 PM #164:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted... To be fair, that was just 3 Republicans They didn't fall into line. It caused it to fail. 3 people is an exception, not a rule. Edit: And one of those people, John McCain, is being thoroughly dragged as a literal traitor for it. 3/51 is a 6% failure rate. Thats really pretty high all things considered. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:901252900] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>To be fair, that was just 3 Republicans</quote> They didn't fall into line. It caused it to fail.</quote> 3 people is an exception, not a rule. Edit: And one of those people, John McCain, is being thoroughly dragged as a literal traitor for it.</quote> 3/51 is a 6% failure rate. Thats really pretty high all things considered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/12/18 11:54:52 PM #165:	It was 3/52 at the time! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901253334] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>It was 3/52 at the time!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 05/13/18 2:07:15 AM #166:	Eddv posted... 3/51 is a 6% failure rate. Thats really pretty high all things considered. Is 3/51 the standard or an exception? --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:901258484] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>3/51 is a 6% failure rate. Thats really pretty high all things considered.</quote> Is 3/51 the standard or an exception?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 05/13/18 2:55:37 AM #167:	Michael Avenatti rejects an appearance on Tucker Carlson and tells him he'll only do Hannity. Carlson responds by calling him "creepy porn lawyer" the rest of the night. I'm glad Tucker is soon to finish the fifth grade. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:901259839] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>Michael Avenatti rejects an appearance on Tucker Carlson and tells him he'll only do Hannity. Carlson responds by calling him "creepy porn lawyer" the rest of the night. I'm glad Tucker is soon to finish the fifth grade.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 5:52:13 AM #168:	For the first time, CNN had a browser overtaking ad on their website. = / How are these ads getting through on so many websites anymore. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901262963] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>For the first time, CNN had a browser overtaking ad on their website. = / How are these ads getting through on so many websites anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurai7 05/13/18 9:47:07 AM #169:	Uhm Corrik, Iran had to get rid of 2/3rds of their centrifuges and 97% of it's enriched Uranium. Which so far they have complied with completely. Also it's not timed. There are certain measures that expire, but not having nuclear weapons isn't one of those. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. <cite>Samurai7 posted [p:901267466] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>Uhm Corrik, Iran had to get rid of 2/3rds of their centrifuges and 97% of it's enriched Uranium. Which so far they have complied with completely. Also it's not timed. There are certain measures that expire, but not having nuclear weapons isn't one of those.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 10:03:27 AM #170:	Samurai7 posted... Uhm Corrik, Iran had to get rid of 2/3rds of their centrifuges and 97% of it's enriched Uranium. Which so far they have complied with completely. Also it's not timed. There are certain measures that expire, but not having nuclear weapons isn't one of those. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/31/world/middleeast/simple-guide-nuclear-talks-iran-us.html There is no forever part of the agreement. Also the agreements were for 2 uranium enrichment plants and a 3rd one which was to come online. The main concern was with Iran being so mountainous that there can be undisclosed plants they are unaware of. Iran does not have to have plants not disclosed checked. Only upon disclosure. It also is expected to just temporarily pause their production. And that Iran can go back to their status quo beforehand afterwards if they wish once the requirements run out. The fear of course is that Iran will just use that as leverage to sweeten their deal. It gives them a position of leverage to deal from. The Iran plan for many was considered flawed from the start but also considered to be the best way to stop Iran from completing the production of a bomb in the near term. That it also had to come with the agreement supposedly to leave Iran's ally, Syria, relatively unscatched also despite their atrocities is another story. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901267874] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurai7 posted...</cite> <quote>Uhm Corrik, Iran had to get rid of 2/3rds of their centrifuges and 97% of it's enriched Uranium. Which so far they have complied with completely. Also it's not timed. There are certain measures that expire, but not having nuclear weapons isn't one of those.</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/31/world/middleeast/simple-guide-nuclear-talks-iran-us.html There is no forever part of the agreement. Also the agreements were for 2 uranium enrichment plants and a 3rd one which was to come online. The main concern was with Iran being so mountainous that there can be undisclosed plants they are unaware of. Iran does not have to have plants not disclosed checked. Only upon disclosure. It also is expected to just temporarily pause their production. And that Iran can go back to their status quo beforehand afterwards if they wish once the requirements run out. The fear of course is that Iran will just use that as leverage to sweeten their deal. It gives them a position of leverage to deal from. The Iran plan for many was considered flawed from the start but also considered to be the best way to stop Iran from completing the production of a bomb in the near term. That it also had to come with the agreement supposedly to leave Iran's ally, Syria, relatively unscatched also despite their atrocities is another story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurai7 05/13/18 10:15:40 AM #171:	Corrik posted... Samurai7 posted... Uhm Corrik, Iran had to get rid of 2/3rds of their centrifuges and 97% of it's enriched Uranium. Which so far they have complied with completely. Also it's not timed. There are certain measures that expire, but not having nuclear weapons isn't one of those. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/31/world/middleeast/simple-guide-nuclear-talks-iran-us.html There is no forever part of the agreement. Also the agreements were for 2 uranium enrichment plants and a 3rd one which was to come online. The main concern was with Iran being so mountainous that there can be undisclosed plants they are unaware of. Iran does not have to have plants not disclosed checked. Only upon disclosure. It also is expected to just temporarily pause their production. And that Iran can go back to their status quo beforehand afterwards if they wish once the requirements run out. The fear of course is that Iran will just use that as leverage to sweeten their deal. It gives them a position of leverage to deal from. The Iran plan for many was considered flawed from the start but also considered to be the best way to stop Iran from completing the production of a bomb in the near term. That it also had to come with the agreement supposedly to leave Iran's ally, Syria, relatively unscatched also despite their atrocities is another story. I'm not sure why you linked that article as it doesn't contradict anything I said or support anything your said. The restrictions on weapons COULD be lifted in x number of years. They don't automatically expire. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. <cite>Samurai7 posted [p:901268242] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurai7 posted...</cite> <quote>Uhm Corrik, Iran had to get rid of 2/3rds of their centrifuges and 97% of it's enriched Uranium. Which so far they have complied with completely. Also it's not timed. There are certain measures that expire, but not having nuclear weapons isn't one of those.</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/31/world/middleeast/simple-guide-nuclear-talks-iran-us.html There is no forever part of the agreement. Also the agreements were for 2 uranium enrichment plants and a 3rd one which was to come online. The main concern was with Iran being so mountainous that there can be undisclosed plants they are unaware of. Iran does not have to have plants not disclosed checked. Only upon disclosure. It also is expected to just temporarily pause their production. And that Iran can go back to their status quo beforehand afterwards if they wish once the requirements run out. The fear of course is that Iran will just use that as leverage to sweeten their deal. It gives them a position of leverage to deal from. The Iran plan for many was considered flawed from the start but also considered to be the best way to stop Iran from completing the production of a bomb in the near term. That it also had to come with the agreement supposedly to leave Iran's ally, Syria, relatively unscatched also despite their atrocities is another story.</quote> I'm not sure why you linked that article as it doesn't contradict anything I said or support anything your said. The restrictions on weapons COULD be lifted in x number of years. They don't automatically expire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 10:35:29 AM #172:	Samurai7 posted... Corrik posted... Samurai7 posted... Uhm Corrik, Iran had to get rid of 2/3rds of their centrifuges and 97% of it's enriched Uranium. Which so far they have complied with completely. Also it's not timed. There are certain measures that expire, but not having nuclear weapons isn't one of those. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/31/world/middleeast/simple-guide-nuclear-talks-iran-us.html There is no forever part of the agreement. Also the agreements were for 2 uranium enrichment plants and a 3rd one which was to come online. The main concern was with Iran being so mountainous that there can be undisclosed plants they are unaware of. Iran does not have to have plants not disclosed checked. Only upon disclosure. It also is expected to just temporarily pause their production. And that Iran can go back to their status quo beforehand afterwards if they wish once the requirements run out. The fear of course is that Iran will just use that as leverage to sweeten their deal. It gives them a position of leverage to deal from. The Iran plan for many was considered flawed from the start but also considered to be the best way to stop Iran from completing the production of a bomb in the near term. That it also had to come with the agreement supposedly to leave Iran's ally, Syria, relatively unscatched also despite their atrocities is another story. I'm not sure why you linked that article as it doesn't contradict anything I said or support anything your said. The restrictions on weapons COULD be lifted in x number of years. They don't automatically expire. What. The agreement is for 15 years in one part and 25 years in another part. There is no could be lifted in x number of years. The agreement expires in those years. They can renegotiate a new one, but there is absolutely no deal of any sort for after this. It is not COULD. It is the deal expires. Period. After that it is up to renegotiate a new one or not. Iran is fully free to operate as usual after it expires. And everyone is fully free to reimpose penalties as they wish after it ends. Key dates for expirations https://tinyurl.com/yaeb6znh --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901268839] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurai7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurai7 posted...</cite> <quote>Uhm Corrik, Iran had to get rid of 2/3rds of their centrifuges and 97% of it's enriched Uranium. Which so far they have complied with completely. Also it's not timed. There are certain measures that expire, but not having nuclear weapons isn't one of those.</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/31/world/middleeast/simple-guide-nuclear-talks-iran-us.html There is no forever part of the agreement. Also the agreements were for 2 uranium enrichment plants and a 3rd one which was to come online. The main concern was with Iran being so mountainous that there can be undisclosed plants they are unaware of. Iran does not have to have plants not disclosed checked. Only upon disclosure. It also is expected to just temporarily pause their production. And that Iran can go back to their status quo beforehand afterwards if they wish once the requirements run out. The fear of course is that Iran will just use that as leverage to sweeten their deal. It gives them a position of leverage to deal from. The Iran plan for many was considered flawed from the start but also considered to be the best way to stop Iran from completing the production of a bomb in the near term. That it also had to come with the agreement supposedly to leave Iran's ally, Syria, relatively unscatched also despite their atrocities is another story.</quote> I'm not sure why you linked that article as it doesn't contradict anything I said or support anything your said. The restrictions on weapons COULD be lifted in x number of years. They don't automatically expire.</quote> What. The agreement is for 15 years in one part and 25 years in another part. There is no could be lifted in x number of years. The agreement expires in those years. They can renegotiate a new one, but there is absolutely no deal of any sort for after this. It is not COULD. It is the deal expires. Period. After that it is up to renegotiate a new one or not. Iran is fully free to operate as usual after it expires. And everyone is fully free to reimpose penalties as they wish after it ends. Key dates for expirations https://tinyurl.com/yaeb6znh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/13/18 10:54:20 AM #173:	https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/995625955950448640?s=21 LMAO at some of these accomplishments. Corrik and red sox did a better job listing them --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901269546] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/995625955950448640?s=21 LMAO at some of these accomplishments. Corrik and red sox did a better job listing them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 10:58:09 AM #174:	Jakyl25 posted... https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/995625955950448640?s=21 LMAO at some of these accomplishments. Corrik and red sox did a better job listing them Lol the last 3 were funny. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901269687] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/995625955950448640?s=21 LMAO at some of these accomplishments. Corrik and red sox did a better job listing them</quote> Lol the last 3 were funny.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 05/13/18 11:24:51 AM #175:	The first part of that list was okay, even if you don't agree with the first two Trump did accomplish them. The last half made it look like they were struggling for more points, one isn't even an accomplishment that Trump did, unless he told the judges to say that which kind of ruins the point. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:901270721] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>The first part of that list was okay, even if you don't agree with the first two Trump did accomplish them. The last half made it look like they were struggling for more points, one isn't even an accomplishment that Trump did, unless he told the judges to say that which kind of ruins the point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 05/13/18 11:53:04 AM #176:	https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now? --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:901271767] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 12:00:38 PM #177:	I kind of think that Trump cares more about Western European and Asian allies more than the Eastern European ones. Source: My ass. Has anyone gotten that feeling besides me though? --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901272076] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>I kind of think that Trump cares more about Western European and Asian allies more than the Eastern European ones. Source: My ass. Has anyone gotten that feeling besides me though?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/13/18 12:06:33 PM #178:	Peace___Frog posted... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now? How is this America First? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901272317] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now?</quote> How is this America First?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 05/13/18 12:11:42 PM #179:	Peace___Frog posted... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now? Well duh. China is where they make all of Trump's merchandise. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:901272539] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now?</quote> Well duh. China is where they make all of Trump's merchandise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/13/18 12:12:02 PM #180:	Corrik posted... I kind of think that Trump cares more about Western European and Asian allies more than the Eastern European ones. Source: My ass. Has anyone gotten that feeling besides me though? I got the reverse feeling actually, that he cares most for Russia and China as allies. If you consider Russia to be Eastern European anyway. I would say that through its history, United States has never ever really cared for European allies east of the German/Polish border, for more than a couple years at a time. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:901272555] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I kind of think that Trump cares more about Western European and Asian allies more than the Eastern European ones. Source: My ass. Has anyone gotten that feeling besides me though?</quote> I got the reverse feeling actually, that he cares most for Russia and China as allies. If you consider Russia to be Eastern European anyway. I would say that through its history, United States has never ever really cared for European allies east of the German/Polish border, for more than a couple years at a time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/13/18 12:14:06 PM #181:	Jakyl25 posted... Peace___Frog posted... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now? How is this America First? He's bargaining, obviously. China has let it be known that this is important to them, and it's within Trump's power to grant. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:901272643] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now?</quote> How is this America First?</quote> He's bargaining, obviously. China has let it be known that this is important to them, and it's within Trump's power to grant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/13/18 12:15:28 PM #182:	And that Fox list failed to list what is probably his most significant accomplishment - the tax cuts! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:901272696] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>And that Fox list failed to list what is probably his most significant accomplishment - the tax cuts!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 12:18:46 PM #183:	red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Peace___Frog posted... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now? How is this America First? He's bargaining, obviously. China has let it be known that this is important to them, and it's within Trump's power to grant. Yeah, I think this has to do with the supposed "trade war" CNN thinks we are in or something. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901272807] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now?</quote> How is this America First?</quote> He's bargaining, obviously. China has let it be known that this is important to them, and it's within Trump's power to grant.</quote> Yeah, I think this has to do with the supposed "trade war" CNN thinks we are in or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 12:20:35 PM #184:	red sox 777 posted... Corrik posted... I kind of think that Trump cares more about Western European and Asian allies more than the Eastern European ones. Source: My ass. Has anyone gotten that feeling besides me though? I got the reverse feeling actually, that he cares most for Russia and China as allies. If you consider Russia to be Eastern European anyway. I would say that through its history, United States has never ever really cared for European allies east of the German/Polish border, for more than a couple years at a time. I feel like UK, Japan, Australia, Israel are what he sees as our best allies. South Korea, Canada, and France right tbere too. Then everyone else seems to be a rung below to me. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901272882] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I kind of think that Trump cares more about Western European and Asian allies more than the Eastern European ones. Source: My ass. Has anyone gotten that feeling besides me though?</quote> I got the reverse feeling actually, that he cares most for Russia and China as allies. If you consider Russia to be Eastern European anyway. I would say that through its history, United States has never ever really cared for European allies east of the German/Polish border, for more than a couple years at a time.</quote> I feel like UK, Japan, Australia, Israel are what he sees as our best allies. South Korea, Canada, and France right tbere too. Then everyone else seems to be a rung below to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/13/18 12:24:43 PM #185:	Well, Israel has always been the United States' best ally, they are a tier above everyone else and the only country where we are in it primarily for their benefit, not ours. For the rest, I may be conflating personal relationships with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping for the relationships with the countries, but I also feel Trump doesn't see as big a difference between those things as most presidents do. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:901273072] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>Well, Israel has always been the United States' best ally, they are a tier above everyone else and the only country where we are in it primarily for their benefit, not ours. For the rest, I may be conflating personal relationships with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping for the relationships with the countries, but I also feel Trump doesn't see as big a difference between those things as most presidents do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 12:25:15 PM #186:	red sox 777 posted... Well, Israel has always been the United States' best ally, they are a tier above everyone else and the only country where we are in it primarily for their benefit, not ours. For the rest, I may be conflating personal relationships with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping for the relationships with the countries, but I also feel Trump doesn't see as big a difference between those things as most presidents do. What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. I think Trump feels we have more to gain with a favorable relationship with Russia and China. I am surprised many people don't give India the time of day they probably deserve also. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901273099] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Well, Israel has always been the United States' best ally, they are a tier above everyone else and the only country where we are in it primarily for their benefit, not ours. For the rest, I may be conflating personal relationships with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping for the relationships with the countries, but I also feel Trump doesn't see as big a difference between those things as most presidents do.</quote> What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. I think Trump feels we have more to gain with a favorable relationship with Russia and China. I am surprised many people don't give India the time of day they probably deserve also.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/13/18 12:29:20 PM #187:	Corrik posted... red sox 777 posted... Well, Israel has always been the United States' best ally, they are a tier above everyone else and the only country where we are in it primarily for their benefit, not ours. For the rest, I may be conflating personal relationships with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping for the relationships with the countries, but I also feel Trump doesn't see as big a difference between those things as most presidents do. What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. So both countries have said since World War II, but what action has it produced? We threatened them with cutting off their oil in the 50s to force them to leave Egypt, and since then, I can't think of any controversial issues that arose where we treated them any better than the rest of Western Europe. They blindly followed us into Iraq, this is true, but that's more a reflection of how they see the alliance than we do. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:901273265] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Well, Israel has always been the United States' best ally, they are a tier above everyone else and the only country where we are in it primarily for their benefit, not ours. For the rest, I may be conflating personal relationships with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping for the relationships with the countries, but I also feel Trump doesn't see as big a difference between those things as most presidents do.</quote> What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever.</quote> So both countries have said since World War II, but what action has it produced? We threatened them with cutting off their oil in the 50s to force them to leave Egypt, and since then, I can't think of any controversial issues that arose where we treated them any better than the rest of Western Europe. They blindly followed us into Iraq, this is true, but that's more a reflection of how they see the alliance than we do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 12:30:48 PM #188:	I dunno, man. That is a hard sell to me. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901273354] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>I dunno, man. That is a hard sell to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/13/18 12:34:48 PM #189:	Corrik posted... What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. Does forever include 1812? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901273546] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. </quote> Does forever include 1812?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 05/13/18 12:42:49 PM #190:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. Does forever include 1812? Fun fact - Churchill basically made up the 'special relationship' line in 1937 and we have both pretended that it was true all along ever since. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:901273912] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. </quote> Does forever include 1812?</quote> Fun fact - Churchill basically made up the 'special relationship' line in 1937 and we have both pretended that it was true all along ever since.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 12:49:33 PM #191:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. Does forever include 1812? No. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901274194] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. </quote> Does forever include 1812?</quote> No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 05/13/18 1:14:23 PM #192:	Cares more in an absolute sense, sure, cares more relative to past administrations, not really. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:901275225] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>Cares more in an absolute sense, sure, cares more relative to past administrations, not really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 05/13/18 1:21:00 PM #193:	Eddv posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. Does forever include 1812? Fun fact - Churchill basically made up the 'special relationship' line in 1937 and we have both pretended that it was true all along ever since. I mean, it does at least predate Churchill. We bailed them out in WWI after all. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:901275494] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. </quote> Does forever include 1812?</quote> Fun fact - Churchill basically made up the 'special relationship' line in 1937 and we have both pretended that it was true all along ever since.</quote> I mean, it does at least predate Churchill. We bailed them out in WWI after all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 05/13/18 1:21:16 PM #194:	Corrik posted... red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Peace___Frog posted... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now? How is this America First? He's bargaining, obviously. China has let it be known that this is important to them, and it's within Trump's power to grant. Yeah, I think this has to do with the supposed "trade war" CNN thinks we are in or something. The heck are you talking about dude? Trump is literally the one who said it. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:901275501] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now?</quote> How is this America First?</quote> He's bargaining, obviously. China has let it be known that this is important to them, and it's within Trump's power to grant.</quote> Yeah, I think this has to do with the supposed "trade war" CNN thinks we are in or something.</quote> The heck are you talking about dude? Trump is literally the one who said it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 05/13/18 2:05:47 PM #195:	Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. Does forever include 1812? No. What about Suez? Or Grenada? Those are much more recent. The fact is the special relationship barely exists if at all. We are allies, true, but no more so than with the rest of Europe, Canada or Australia. The UK's closest ally is Ireland post-GFA, along with the rest of the EU, and the only real consistent ally the US has is Israel, largely as a result of it's old isolationist policies. Either way, the idea that Trump sees the UK as the US's closest ally is laughable. If he did, he wouldn't constantly be attacking Sadiq Khan (entirely for Islamophobic reasons, let's be honest here), he wouldn't be pulling out of the Iran deal in direct conflict with UK interests, he wouldn't be publicly attacking the UK (see his NHS tweets or his recent ridiculous knives speech), and so on. As far as the other way around is concerned, it's rob ably worth noting that for these and for his sharing of tweets from a far-right group, Trump is the first US President post WWII to have been directly criticised by a UK Prime Minister. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh BKSheikah <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:901277373] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>What? UK is definitely our best ally. Has been forever. </quote> Does forever include 1812?</quote> No.</quote> What about Suez? Or Grenada? Those are much more recent. The fact is the special relationship barely exists if at all. We are allies, true, but no more so than with the rest of Europe, Canada or Australia. The UK's closest ally is Ireland post-GFA, along with the rest of the EU, and the only real consistent ally the US has is Israel, largely as a result of it's old isolationist policies. Either way, the idea that Trump sees the UK as the US's closest ally is laughable. If he did, he wouldn't constantly be attacking Sadiq Khan (entirely for Islamophobic reasons, let's be honest here), he wouldn't be pulling out of the Iran deal in direct conflict with UK interests, he wouldn't be publicly attacking the UK (see his NHS tweets or his recent ridiculous knives speech), and so on. As far as the other way around is concerned, it's rob ably worth noting that for these and for his sharing of tweets from a far-right group, Trump is the first US President post WWII to have been directly criticised by a UK Prime Minister.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 05/13/18 2:48:29 PM #196:	I'll never understand why Republicans are so giddy over risking relations with our European allies and giving radicals in Iran ammunition all for... Israel. I mean it'd be one thing if Iran clearly violated the deal with proof. But they didn't. "We have intelligence" or "They might have!" is the best we get. . --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:901279299] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote>I'll never understand why Republicans are so giddy over risking relations with our European allies and giving radicals in Iran ammunition all for... Israel. I mean it'd be one thing if Iran clearly violated the deal with proof. But they didn't. "We have intelligence" or "They might have!" is the best we get. .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 05/13/18 2:51:37 PM #197:	Lightning Strikes posted... The fact is the special relationship barely exists if at all. We are allies, true, but no more so than with the rest of Europe, Canada or Australia. The UK's closest ally is Ireland post-GFA, along with the rest of the EU, and the only real consistent ally the US has is Israel, largely as a result of it's old isolationist policies. Ehh...no, the UK is closer to the US than the rest of Europe is close to the US. UK was one of the only countries that went into Iraq with the US, because of strong ally ties. (Most of Europe was like "no that's stupid", France even vetoed military action in Iraq). I don't know how Trump specifically feels about the UK, though. --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:901279456] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lightning Strikes posted...</cite> <quote>The fact is the special relationship barely exists if at all. We are allies, true, but no more so than with the rest of Europe, Canada or Australia. The UK's closest ally is Ireland post-GFA, along with the rest of the EU, and the only real consistent ally the US has is Israel, largely as a result of it's old isolationist policies.</quote> Ehh...no, the UK is closer to the US than the rest of Europe is close to the US. UK was one of the only countries that went into Iraq with the US, because of strong ally ties. (Most of Europe was like "no that's stupid", France even vetoed military action in Iraq). I don't know how Trump specifically feels about the UK, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 2:54:46 PM #198:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Corrik posted... red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Peace___Frog posted... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now? How is this America First? He's bargaining, obviously. China has let it be known that this is important to them, and it's within Trump's power to grant. Yeah, I think this has to do with the supposed "trade war" CNN thinks we are in or something. The heck are you talking about dude? Trump is literally the one who said it. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/04/donald-trump-we-are-not-in-a-trade-war-with-china-we-lost-that-war-many-years-ago.html --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901279608] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now?</quote> How is this America First?</quote> He's bargaining, obviously. China has let it be known that this is important to them, and it's within Trump's power to grant.</quote> Yeah, I think this has to do with the supposed "trade war" CNN thinks we are in or something.</quote> The heck are you talking about dude? Trump is literally the one who said it.</quote> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/04/donald-trump-we-are-not-in-a-trade-war-with-china-we-lost-that-war-many-years-ago.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/13/18 2:56:50 PM #199:	metroid composite posted... Lightning Strikes posted... The fact is the special relationship barely exists if at all. We are allies, true, but no more so than with the rest of Europe, Canada or Australia. The UK's closest ally is Ireland post-GFA, along with the rest of the EU, and the only real consistent ally the US has is Israel, largely as a result of it's old isolationist policies. Ehh...no, the UK is closer to the US than the rest of Europe is close to the US. UK was one of the only countries that went into Iraq with the US, because of strong ally ties. (Most of Europe was like "no that's stupid", France even vetoed military action in Iraq). I don't know how Trump specifically feels about the UK, though. UK is our best pal. The British Commonwealth is mostly right there also with Australia and Canada primarily. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901279706] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>metroid composite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lightning Strikes posted...</cite> <quote>The fact is the special relationship barely exists if at all. We are allies, true, but no more so than with the rest of Europe, Canada or Australia. The UK's closest ally is Ireland post-GFA, along with the rest of the EU, and the only real consistent ally the US has is Israel, largely as a result of it's old isolationist policies.</quote> Ehh...no, the UK is closer to the US than the rest of Europe is close to the US. UK was one of the only countries that went into Iraq with the US, because of strong ally ties. (Most of Europe was like "no that's stupid", France even vetoed military action in Iraq). I don't know how Trump specifically feels about the UK, though.</quote> UK is our best pal. The British Commonwealth is mostly right there also with Australia and Canada primarily.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 05/13/18 3:16:02 PM #200:	Corrik posted... ChaosTonyV4 posted... Corrik posted... red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Peace___Frog posted... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now? How is this America First? He's bargaining, obviously. China has let it be known that this is important to them, and it's within Trump's power to grant. Yeah, I think this has to do with the supposed "trade war" CNN thinks we are in or something. The heck are you talking about dude? Trump is literally the one who said it. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/04/donald-trump-we-are-not-in-a-trade-war-with-china-we-lost-that-war-many-years-ago.html "We're not in a trade war." "We already lost it." "We can't let this continue." JFC those are contradictory statements, Corrik. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:901280551] in Politics C... [t:76595984]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 He's... concerned about Chinese jobs now?</quote> How is this America First?</quote> He's bargaining, obviously. China has let it be known that this is important to them, and it's within Trump's power to grant.</quote> Yeah, I think this has to do with the supposed "trade war" CNN thinks we are in or something.</quote> The heck are you talking about dude? Trump is literally the one who said it.</quote> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/04/donald-trump-we-are-not-in-a-trade-war-with-china-we-lost-that-war-many-years-ago.html</quote> "We're not in a trade war." "We already lost it." "We can't let this continue." JFC those are contradictory statements, Corrik.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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