Board 8 > Obama's Legacy: FUCKING DEAD!!!!!

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Paris: GONE
Iran: GONE
Obamacare: slaughtered at every level.

Had he died after 40 days in office from Pneumonia he couldn't have accomplished less.

UInstinctGogeta posted...

Had he died after 40 days in office from Pneumonia he couldn't have accomplished less.

what does William Henry Harrison have to do with this
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I mean...you're not really wrong in those regards.

I think Obama was a good President, but he fucked up real bad for letting his major accomplishments get so easily undone by underestimating the pettiness and pure hatred Trumpers have for him.

What a disaster.
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Owning America to own the libs
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Owning America to own the libs

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I think Obama was a good President, but he fucked up real bad for letting his major accomplishments get so easily undone by underestimating the pettiness and pure hatred Trumpers have for him.

Easily done, easily undone
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

but he f***ed up real bad for letting his major accomplishments get so easily undone by ignoring the Constitution and working with Congress to enact treaties

FTFY
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Hey MWC what kind of food do you eat while watching sporting events
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foolm0r0n posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I think Obama was a good President, but he fucked up real bad for letting his major accomplishments get so easily undone by underestimating the pettiness and pure hatred Trumpers have for him.

Easily done, easily undone

Yeah....

It's amazing how easy something is to ruin when you break the fucking law to do it...

LiquidOshawott posted...

Hey MWC what kind of food do you eat while watching sporting events

All types usually.

I don't really have a go to.

When I watch with my dad a lot of times I'll make Memphis wings cause he likes them.

So what happens to the people who were all on Obamacare?

Like Dry Rub BBQ?

Dry Rub is pretty solid, though theres something magical about having your fingers drip with sauce
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swordz9 posted...

So what happens to the people who were all on Obamacare?

Death panels, I assume.
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swordz9 posted...

So what happens to the people who were all on Obamacare?

As someone who saved thousands....

Don't really care.

They'll be fine just like they were before.

But I didn't have to pay to
Supplement their stuff anymore. Just as it should be.

LiquidOshawott posted...

Like Dry Rub BBQ?

Dry Rub is pretty solid, though theres something magical about having your fingers drip with sauce

I agree.

But dry rub can be really amazing too when done right

I pretty much only do dry rub when with him, because I'm
Like you. I want that sauce. Lol

I also like mozz sticks, though I know many many food people hate them.

yeah lets drop out of every deal accord and treaty we can whats soft power
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MysticBrohan posted...

yeah lets drop out of every deal accord and treaty we can whats soft power

while literally just starting talks for a new one no less
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MysticBrohan posted...

yeah lets drop out of every deal accord and treaty we can whats soft power

No. I don't agree with this.

But tell me what WE got out of Paris or Iran?

If your answer has anything to do with good will or respect of our allies I don't care, it means nothing, bring something else...

What advantage from just an America stand point was there to either.

CelesMyUserName posted...

MysticBrohan posted...

yeah lets drop out of every deal accord and treaty we can whats soft power

while literally just starting talks for a new one no less

One would no doubt go through congress... the other failed spectacularly there.

Im also outraged by this, MWC. Im glad your topic title conveys the proper tone when describing the petty destruction of foreign treaties for the sole reason of negating a respected Presidents legacy.

Its a shame that A. The next president wont be so petty to erase Trumps legacy (and the damage done to our international standing will never be undone), B. Even if such pettiness existed, Trump has no actual legacy, having accomplished nothing.
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UInstinctGogeta posted...

MysticBrohan posted...

yeah lets drop out of every deal accord and treaty we can whats soft power

No. I don't agree with this.

But tell me what WE got out of Paris or Iran?

If your answer has anything to do with good will or respect of our allies I don't care, it means nothing, bring something else...

What advantage from just an America stand point was there to either.

Saving American lives by reducing the disastrous effects of climate change.

Crippling Irans nuclear program and preventing a volatile nuclear power from interfering while we get involved in Middle East conflict.
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Answered above. Thank you.

What do you mean no legacy? Were the First Nation to ever elect an orangutan President.

Espeon posted...

UInstinctGogeta posted...

MysticBrohan posted...

yeah lets drop out of every deal accord and treaty we can whats soft power

No. I don't agree with this.

But tell me what WE got out of Paris or Iran?

If your answer has anything to do with good will or respect of our allies I don't care, it means nothing, bring something else...

What advantage from just an America stand point was there to either.

Saving American lives by reducing the disastrous effects of climate change.

Crippling Irans nuclear program and preventing a volatile nuclear power from interfering while we get involved in Middle East conflict.

On the first we'll just agree to disagree....

On the second... we don't negotiate with terrorists, I'm not down for paying someone just to potentially leave us alone. If they wanna get involved they'll die. It really is that simple. I'm not gonna pay these people to not interfere.

I'm going to speak softly and carry a big stick letting them know that if they get involved you'll be meeting your maker.

You literally have no idea what that phrase actually meant or referred to do you?
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swordz9 posted...

So what happens to the people who were all on Obamacare?

Same as usual. It's still around.
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Eddv posted...

You literally have no idea what that phrase actually meant or referred to do you?

Parading our incredible Navy around as a "I FUCKING DARE YOU"

Theres nothing wrong with mozzerella sticks other than the price

Irish Nachos are where its at though
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Paris didn't mean anything. Iran was good because it lifted dumbass sanctions. But it's no surprise that the Price Control Prince Trump wanted to get rid of that. Any free market is just an opportunity to him to get his dirty hands in there.

UInstinctGogeta posted...

I'm going to speak softly and carry a big stick letting them know that if they get involved you'll be meeting your maker.

You will choose the option to scream loudly every single time, regardless of what stick is involved. You will give up your national security for talking points, every single time.

That's why you will be disappointed in 2018, 2019, and especially 2020. But today you seem happy so I guess that's cool.
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LiquidOshawott posted...

Theres nothing wrong with mozzerella sticks other than the price

Irish Nachos are where its at though

Explain what makes them Irish?

(I'm assuming potatoes or alcohol).

I'll have to look into that.

ANd yeah, I remember when mozz sticks were much cheaper.

Simpler times.

French Fries instead of chips, usually waffle
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Mozz sticks are awesome, I think I'll grab some on the way home
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Make your own mozz sticks it's literally 2 ingredients
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LiquidOshawott posted...

French Fries instead of chips, usually waffle

Oh. I've had them before (only once, can't remember where) and they were waffle. And they were one of the best things I ever ate. Didn't know the name till now though.

UInstinctGogeta posted...

Eddv posted...

You literally have no idea what that phrase actually meant or referred to do you?

Parading our incredible Navy around as a "I FUCKING DARE YOU"

As a "we intend to meddle in international affairs" button yes.

It was the birth of soft power and resulted in Teddy negotiating the end of the Russo-Japanese war by getting all parties to recognize that the US held sovreignty over much of the Pacific and was therefore entitled to have a say in wars trade and the like in the region yes.

Teddy didnt just build a big navy as a defensive move - because defensivr against who exactly? It was aggressive and meant to result in peacetime concessions....not unlike the Iran Nuclear Deal.
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One, please explain why you disagree with climate change? Ive seen arguments about liberals trying to pick winners and losers in the economy and prop up green energy corporations. Which, fine. Id be okay with that argument IF one couldnt immediately reverse it to point out how denying climate change allows the government to prop up the coal and oil industries, both of which have existed long enough to lobby legislators specifically to deny climate change.

Now, enacting climate change policies has a great number of positives. First off, renewable energy requires more manpower, thus creating more jobs and stimulating the economy. Second, the U.S. taking the lead allows us to remain at the forefront of the world stage, rather than allowing rising world powers like China to usurp us. Given how the ENTIRE rest of the world is onboard with the Paris Accord, renewable energy is going to be a major sector of the economy in the near future, yet we are abandoning it in order to further bolster the profits of coal and oil companies.

Finally, as we saw this past hurricane season, the storms are getting worse. Three major hurricanes devastating Florida, Texas and Puerto Rico. Hurricane strength is dependent on ocean temperatures, and as they rise, it only superchanges these storms to cause more damage and waste more taxpayer money on the relief efforts. Climate change being combated is fiscally responsible.
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First off, renewable energy requires more manpower, thus creating more jobs and stimulating the economy.

Why don't we just ban electricity entirely? Think of how many jobs will be created if we need to power everything manually through raw human energy!
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SmartMuffin posted...

First off, renewable energy requires more manpower, thus creating more jobs and stimulating the economy.

Why don't we just ban electricity entirely? Think of how many jobs will be created if we need to power everything manually through raw human energy!

So...in your snarky response, you still agree that oil and coal are the worst option of the three.
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So...in your snarky response, you still agree that oil and coal are the worst option of the three.

It's not snark, it's the logical conclusion of your complete failure to understand basic economics.
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SmartMuffin posted...

So...in your snarky response, you still agree that oil and coal are the worst option of the three.

It's not snark, it's the logical conclusion of your complete failure to understand basic economics.

So you still agree that coal and oil are the worst energy options then, based purely on creating jobs.
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Yes, in terms of "creating jobs" the most efficient option is definitely the "worst."
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Hey Muffin do you think it's smart for businesses to hedge against uncertainty, or to only put in place preventative measures for things we not only know will happen with 100% certainty but for which we can also quantify the size of the effects with 100% certainty?

In case I'm not making it obvious enough the latter is the ridiculous standard being applied by conservatives to doing anything about climate change
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lmao at choosing an energy source based on how many jobs it creates
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SmartMuffin posted...

Yes, in terms of "creating jobs" the most efficient option is definitely the "worst."

Ah yes. Efficiency. Truly the only gauge we should ever use to determine if something is a good idea.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Hey Muffin do you think it's smart for businesses to hedge against uncertainty, or to only put in place preventative measures for things we not only know will happen with 100% certainty but for which we can also quantify the size of the effects with 100% certainty?

In case I'm not making it obvious enough the latter is the ridiculous standard being applied by conservatives to doing anything about climate change

Whether not "hedging" is smart depends entirely on the cost of the hedge and the estimation of potential damages.

It's certainly not always inherently good to hedge because "what if something bad happens." Do you buy the most comprehensive extended warranty you can on every purchase you make?
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america is such a joke country

and i live in a province that's about to elec rob ford's brother as premier
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CelesMyUserName posted...

america is such a joke country

We certainly have been for the last little while. =/
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Espeon posted...

Now, enacting climate change policies

Which the paris agreement had nothing to do with
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I just...I have NEVER heard a good anti-climate change argument. Its always its a hoax despite wide scientific consensus, or if liberals believe it, it must be wrong.
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If you're stupid enough to accept "coal is the most efficient energy source in 2018" as a given then don't fucking argue about climate change.

This is why these topics go to shit. It's your fault.
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