Current Events > You honestly expect characters to die in Infinity War? (Spoilers)

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Don't be silly. This is the MCU! There are no stakes as long as there's $$$ to be made.

I guarantee you everyone who's died will certainly come back because they reverse time or whatever.

Gamora for sure will come back. You can't have Guardians 3 without her.

Of course you can't just kill everyone off, the drama comes from the fact that the characters don't know that fact. It's suspension of disbelief.
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I expect Cap to die in the second movie then when they try to bring him back he's like HEY HEY HEY WHAT THE FUCK. I SUFFER FROM ANXIETY GUYS LEAVE ME DEAD I WANNA DIRECT INDY SHIT
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They could absolutely have Guardians 3 without her
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Loki is dead dead
Gamora probably is.
Cap or Tony will probably die with some soul stone reversal. Like they'll be able to bring everyone back, but it'll require a sacrifice.
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Too many people don't know the characters or story and are only watching it because they hear it's good.
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How the heck is the topic title not a spoiler
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Goats posted...

Guardians 3 is going to be really weird. They lose Gamora, and from what I've been hearing about Chris Pratt's schedule with Jurassic World trilogy, they'll lose him too.

And Drax will be invisible
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I consider Loki to be a pretty major death. Vision too even though that was obvious.

I think the next movie will have more.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

How the heck is the topic title not a spoiler

Because it's not a spoiler to imply that some of the cast of infinity war die, and beyond that it's just speculating that some of those deaths probably aren't permanent.
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Valkyrie, Loki, Heimdall, Korg and Miek are most likely dead for good.

Gamora's soul can be exchanged with the soul gem, and anything that disappeared from the snap will probably be reverted. Not sure what's going to happen with Vision.
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Valkyrie, Loki, Heimdall, Korg and Miek are most likely dead for good.

Gamora's soul can be exchanged with the soul gem, and anything that disappeared from the snap will probably be reverted.

I really doubt Valkyrie and Korg are dead tbh. I think they've specifically said they wanted Korg to return.

Captain_Qwark posted...

Hopefully Hawkeye died and stays dead. This movie was much better without him in it.

Lol I think he'll be back in the next one because his family got dusted.
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at least vision's dead
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Still holding out hope that Loki played another trick
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Darmik posted...

I really doubt Valkyrie and Korg are dead tbh. I think they've specifically said they wanted Korg to return.

They were in the same ship...so unless they escaped just before Thanos boarded, they're most likely gone. But this is Marvel and I'm sure they'll find a way for them to be alive since they didn't die on screen.
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Darmik posted...

I really doubt Valkyrie and Korg are dead tbh. I think they've specifically said they wanted Korg to return.

They were in the same ship...so unless they escaped just before Thanos boarded, they're most likely gone. But this is Marvel and I'm sure they'll find a way for them to be alive since they didn't die on screen.

Thanos said he killed half of them.

They also could have left before Thanos ambushed them. I don't think they said how much time passed between the Ragnarok and Infinity War.

If they were dead they would show that or their bodies for sure.
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Valkyrie, Loki, Heimdall, Korg and Miek are most likely dead for good.

Gamora's soul can be exchanged with the soul gem, and anything that disappeared from the snap will probably be reverted. Not sure what's going to happen with Vision.

Heimdall definitely. Loki has faked his death before, I wouldn't count him out yet. For the others, Thanos only killed half the refugees IIRC so they could be fine.
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kyujo posted...

Still holding out hope that Loki played another trick

I think that will be the case if they get Chris Hemsworth signed on for more and make Thor 4

If not he'll stay dead
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Darmik posted...

GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Darmik posted...

I really doubt Valkyrie and Korg are dead tbh. I think they've specifically said they wanted Korg to return.

They were in the same ship...so unless they escaped just before Thanos boarded, they're most likely gone. But this is Marvel and I'm sure they'll find a way for them to be alive since they didn't die on screen.

Thanos said he killed half of them.

They also could have left before Thanos ambushed them. I don't think they said how much time passed between the Ragnarok and Infinity War.

If they were dead they would show that or their bodies for sure.

I don't think much time passed at all, Ragnarok ended with the ship finding the Asgardians
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Infinity War starts almost immediately after Ragnarok ends.
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I'm pretty sure everybody who didn't get dusted is legit dead.

So that means Loki, Heimdall, Gamora, and Vision. And even then, Loki ran off-screen for a bit before biting the dust so there's enough wiggle room for his death to have been faked again.

Everybody else is prob just in a diff dimension or some weird shit.

As for Valkyrie and Korg, they weren't even shown. Tessa joked that she was simply off-ship getting drinks, so maybe not all the Asgardians were even on-board when Thanos attacked (there could've been a small gap of time to accomodate this between the ending and the post-credit scene). Thor did say that he only wiped out "half [his] people" after all.
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I expected something like this to happen when I read about the gauntlet and the gems. Hearing about which characters died only confirmed it.

Also instead of permanently killing off any major characters due to actors leaving they can also just have a new actor and conveniently explain the appearance change as a result of the gems changing reality.

Heres to another 10 years of the same characters!
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Yeah, I feel pretty sure non-Snapped deaths are permanent. If there's an exception, it's Loki, and that's because Loki is way too smart to try to pull what he did and think it would work out in any way in his favor. I mean come the fuck on, Loki.

I'm also betting there will be a big big death in Avengers 4. Money is on Cap.

I can see Guardians without Gamora, but without Pratt? lolno. It would just be moved until filming can be done.
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Leanaunfurled posted...

Yeah, I feel pretty sure non-Snapped deaths are permanent. If there's an exception, it's Loki, and that's because Loki is way too smart to try to pull what he did and think it would work out in any way in his favor. I mean come the fuck on, Loki.

I'm also betting there will be a big big death in Avengers 4. Money is on Cap.

Yeah if strange can fool Thanos with a fake infinity stone I'm sure literally Loki can fake a corpse.
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Everyone who died before the snap is actually dead.
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I feel like the Asgardians are going to be brought back just because it completely trashes the ending of Ragnarok otherwise. There was the whole "Asgard isn't the place, it's the people" bit, and then oops, looks like they're dead now anyway. The MCU is better put together than that.
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Valkyrie, Korg and Miek probably escaped on Valkyrie's ship. In Ragnarok, you only see Thor and Loki when Thanos arrives. They could have easily been off ship looking for some supplies or simply managed to sneak out by Thor's command.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

I feel like the Asgardians are going to be brought back just because it completely trashes the ending of Ragnarok otherwise. There was the whole "Asgard isn't the place, it's the people" bit, and then oops, looks like they're dead now anyway. The MCU is better put together than that.

Only half of them were killed. Same with Valkyrie and the others. I doubt she'd be killed off screen and not even mentioned. She'll be back.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

I feel like the Asgardians are going to be brought back just because it completely trashes the ending of Ragnarok otherwise. There was the whole "Asgard isn't the place, it's the people" bit, and then oops, looks like they're dead now anyway. The MCU is better put together than that.

Thor just needs to get REALLY busy with the earth ladies.

Also Loki has a slight chance of still being alive and given Valkyrie not being seen she may be one of the survivors.
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mew4ever posted...

Loki is dead dead
Gamora probably is.
Cap or Tony will probably die with some soul stone reversal. Like they'll be able to bring everyone back, but it'll require a sacrifice.

And I am guessing we may as some people killed off fighting Thanos in avengers 4.
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Everyone who died before the snap is actually dead.

I hope this is the case. Otherwise it would be a huge cop out. Loki has overstayed his welcome, and he went out honorably.
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I may have missed the part about Thanos only killing half the crew, but I think I at least 1 of these guys are dead if they killed half the crew:

- Valkyrie
- Korg
- Miek

There's a 50% chance of any one of them surviving. There's 25% chance of 2 of them surviving. and 16.7% for of all 3 of them surviving.
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au_gold posted...

and he went out honorably.

By, ah, pulling a knife after pledging his loyalty.

Yeah, honorably
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

au_gold posted...

and he went out honorably.

By, ah, pulling a knife after pledging his loyalty.

Yeah, honorably

If anything he pledged his loyalty to Thor and Asgard before betraying Thanos. Id say thats pretty honorable.
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You know the dust people come back since both Spiderman and black panther have upcoming movies
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I Like Toast posted...

You know the dust people come back since both Spiderman and black panther have upcoming movies

Well, Infinity War is two years after Civil War. Homecoming and Black Panther were immediately after.

Plot twist: they all really are gone, BP2 and SM2 take place before IW.
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littlebro07 posted...

I Like Toast posted...

You know the dust people come back since both Spiderman and black panther have upcoming movies

Well, Infinity War is two years after Civil War. Homecoming and Black Panther were immediately after.

Plot twist: they all really are gone, BP2 and SM2 take place before IW.

Its crazy to think about the time between Guardians and IW ><

littlebro07 posted...

I Like Toast posted...

You know the dust people come back since both Spiderman and black panther have upcoming movies

Well, Infinity War is two years after Civil War. Homecoming and Black Panther were immediately after.

Plot twist: they all really are gone, BP2 and SM2 take place before IW.

True. Timeline stuff does mean they could be really ballsy and leave a lot of the characters dead and still do movies for them. Its possbile they even lied about the amount of movies contracted to throw peoples theories off track to help ensure the ending is a surprise.

I kinda hope yet dread that they will put them in a position where the only way to bring back the dead is to trade lives.

Tony Trades his life to bring back Peter. MBaku, or Ookye for TChalla. Steve for Bucky. Etc.

That was a pretty big theme In Infinity War. Trading lives. Making decisions on someones life. Thanos traded Gamoras for the soul stone. Loki trades the tesseract for Thors Life. Captain America said We dont trade lives yet I feel he would do it in a heartbeat to bring Bucky back. And in the end Scarlet Witch and Star-Lord both decided to kill their lover for the good of the universe. Etc.

It serves as a way to heroically off a lot of the old heroes to make way for the new heroes, while getting rid of a lot of the consequence erasing controversy that could come with just reviving everyone.
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Unless half those Asgardian refugees escaped before being boarded, they're dead. Anyone who wasn't killed died when the ship exploded.
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hollow_shrine posted...

Unless half those Asgardian refugees escaped before being boarded, they're dead. Anyone who wasn't killed died when the ship exploded.

Thanos probably let them go. He wasn't there to wipe out Asgardians.
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One can hope, one can certainly hope. Also current form Marvel can turn shit into gold, they can make money out of anything.

au_gold posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Everyone who died before the snap is actually dead.

I hope this is the case. Otherwise it would be a huge cop out. Loki has overstayed his welcome, and he went out honorably.

GTFO, Loki is GOAT non-hero Marvel character. Yes, he's better than both Thanos and KIllmonger, come at me.

If they return the dusted characters, they damn well bring back Loki who has shown penchant of illusion mastery.

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Leanaunfurled posted...

Yeah, I feel pretty sure non-Snapped deaths are permanent. If there's an exception, it's Loki, and that's because Loki is way too smart to try to pull what he did and think it would work out in any way in his favor. I mean come the fuck on, Loki.

I'm also betting there will be a big big death in Avengers 4. Money is on Cap.

Yeah if strange can fool Thanos with a fake infinity stone I'm sure literally Loki can fake a corpse.

mew4ever posted...

Cap or Tony will probably die with some soul stone reversal. Like they'll be able to bring everyone back, but it'll require a sacrifice.

That, of course, depends on whether or not Downey or Evans (or both) are sick of making these movies.
Also, Rufalo isn't strictly needed for Hulk appearances.

I expect the real deaths to happen in part two and for most of the ones in part one to be undone.
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I think Loki is for sure dead, especially since Thanos says, "No resurrectons for you this time." after killing him.

I feel like this line is the directors' way of saying that Loki is dead for good.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

That, of course, depends on whether or not Downey or Evans (or both) are sick of making these movies.

Honestly can't see Evans coming back. His contract ends with the next movie and he wants to move on to other things anyway.

Downey is 50/50. Apparently he only signs on for one movie at a time and just keeps coming back because he loves being Iron Man. So they might be able to get him back after part 2.

I personally want him to stick around as Stark just long enough to bring in the Fantastic Four and X-Men so we can get an Illuminati movie. Steve can die because I want Bucky as Captain America already.
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