Board 8 > Avengers single most hype moment I've ever seen in a movie (spoilers potential)

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You know what moment I'm talking about, so
I won't type it here.

But I have never seen an audience react like when it happened.... HELL, I myself reacted and I never react at movies.

There were people who no joke stood up and cheered. It was surreal.
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I know right? Stark Raving Hazelnut is such a good idea.
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FFDragon posted...

I know right? Stark Raving Hazelnut is such a good idea.

No dude, he meant when Drax was invisible. I stood up and clapped for that too.
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Y'all both know what it actually is so the point of this topic has already gone through.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

There were people who no joke stood up and cheered.

I love that scene and that movie but if this had happened at my showing I would have been extremely annoyed.
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Cybat posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

There were people who no joke stood up and cheered.

I love that scene and that movie but if this had happened at my showing I would have been extremely annoyed.

I understood. It was a seriously incredibly done moment with the reveal and everything.
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real talk though I have no idea what you're talking about

the only thing of that magnitude is the *snap* and despite how awesome that is, it's not really cheer worthy
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FFDragon posted...

real talk though I have no idea what you're talking about

the only thing of that magnitude is the *snap* and despite how awesome that is, it's not really cheer worthy

I'm guessing when thor shows up in wakanda based on other peoples' reactions I've seen
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Was that hype though? I mean, Banner sold it as such but I didn't think it was all that huge besides getting more of the band together.

Plus Thor is second only to Starlord in royally fucking things up for everyone, so that tempers things as well.
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FFDragon posted...

Was that hype though? I mean, Banner sold it as such but I didn't think it was all that huge besides getting more of the band together.

Plus Thor is second only to Starlord in royally fucking things up for everyone, so that tempers things as well.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but I've seen other people say similar things about it to what MWC is saying here about ??? moment
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TexasZea posted...

FFDragon posted...

real talk though I have no idea what you're talking about

the only thing of that magnitude is the *snap* and despite how awesome that is, it's not really cheer worthy

I'm guessing when thor shows up in wakanda based on other peoples' reactions I've seen

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Thor was pretty hype but yeah I gotta go with Drax being invisible

That was incredible. Just how high is this guy's power level?
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FFDragon posted...

Was that hype though? I mean, Banner sold it as such but I didn't think it was all that huge besides getting more of the band together.

Plus Thor is second only to Starlord in royally fucking things up for everyone, so that tempers things as well.

That's fair.

But I'm just gonna say the Russo Bros vehemently disagree with you, with how that scene was set.

The Order is just ravaging our heroes, even Cap is struggling when fighting more than 2 at a time, then when things get bleakest the music changes, and this fucking Thunder Ax comes out of nowhere and in SECONDS kills more than all our heroes combined for the last half hour, and then it returns to the hand of a fully healed fully charged Thor as we see Groot and Rocket and the bifrost, as the Avengers theme music crescendos, and we see Cap and everyone else stunned and looking like they know they are saved now, and as you said, Banner yelling how screwed the order is now. We end with the astounding of climax of Thor sprinting, bellowing BRING ME THANOS!!!!! at Thanos's "kids", leaping into the sky, changing into the Lightning god glowing with power, and bringing the Stormbreaker down causing mass destruction on all enemies.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

the Avengers theme music crescendos

I've watched all of these movies and I can't differentiate any individual's theme music at all.
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HashtagSEP posted...

Thor was pretty hype but yeah I gotta go with Drax being invisible

That was incredible. Just how high is this guy's power level?

Drax was an amazing moment, obviously, but not a hype moment.

It was just hilarious and perfectly acted.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

the Avengers theme music crescendos

I've watched all of these movies and I can't differentiate any individual's theme music at all.

You don't know which one is the theme for the Avengers (at least the original 6, I noticed they only played it for Hulk, Cap, IM, and of course Thor this movie)?
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That is nice, but does it really compare to how the better scene was set?

Starlord and Gamora are talking about emotional shit I kinda forget already. Suddenly, they turn to the side. Is somebody there? Is somebody watching? Feeling pity on them, our hero decides to allow himself to be seen. He has been standing there, as he informs them, for an entire hour. Completely invisible. Feeling it best to allow his teammates in on the secret of his power, he showcases the results of his training to them. Slowly, he moves. Slowly, he feeds, both literally and on the power he has built up inside of him. Several people can move fast, yes, but nobody but Drax can move so slowly that they completely trick one of our most important senses: sight. Unfortunately, much like many moments in the movie, Starlord ruins it by being too insecure to admit how impressed he is by Drax's display, and he pretends to have been able to see him. And while Drax knows the truth, he plays along, not wanting to hurt his leader's feelings any further.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

the Avengers theme music crescendos

I've watched all of these movies and I can't differentiate any individual's theme music at all.

You don't know which one is the theme for the Avengers (at least the original 6, I noticed they only played it for Hulk, Cap, IM, and of course Thor this movie)?

The themes are all so generic in comparison with... just about any other major series. It's my only gripe with the quality of filmmaking.
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HashtagSEP posted...

That is nice, but does it really compare to how the better scene was set?

Starlord and Gamora are talking about emotional shit I kinda forget already. Suddenly, they turn to the side. Is somebody there? Is somebody watching? Feeling pity on them, our hero decides to allow himself to be seen. He has been standing there, as he informs them, for an entire hour. Completely invisible. Feeling it best to allow his teammates in on the secret of his power, he showcases the results of his training to them. Slowly, he moves. Slowly, he feeds, both literally and on the power he has built up inside of him. Several people can move fast, yes, but nobody but Drax can move so slowly that they completely trick one of our most important senses: sight. Unfortunately, much like many moments in the movie, Starlord ruins it by being too insecure to admit how impressed he is by Drax's display, and he pretends to have been able to see him. And while Drax knows the truth, he plays along, not wanting to hurt his leader's feelings any further.

What an amazing moment that must have been then....
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Well duh. What they were discussing was completely inconsequential to the greatness that is Drax
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counterpoint:

bruce soloed cull with half a suit

vision (with cap assist, maybe?) soloed corvus

proxima got trioed by two very human people + scarlet witch

all thor did was provide some crowd control, which wanda could have been doing just as well had she come onto the field sooner

i'm not saying it wasn't a cool moment, but it wasn't end-all-be-all hype
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As for the Wakanda battle, I'm just gonna make one thing clear here that I think we're all overlooking

Bruce got overwhelmed by enemies at one point.
Cap got overwhelmed by enemies at one point.
Panther and Soldier and Falcon and Rhodey and Widow all got overwhelmed by enemies at one point.
Vision got a bad case of the deads.
Wanda and Thor ultimately failed their mission.

The one hero who was never shown to falter
The one hero who did nothing but kick ass in every battle scene he was featured in

The one true hero of Avengers 4

M'Baku
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T'Challa is gone, Wakanda needs a new King and a new Black Panther

M'Baku 2019
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FFDragon posted...

counterpoint:

bruce soloed cull with half a suit

vision (with cap assist, maybe?) soloed corvus

proxima got trioed by two very human people + scarlet witch

all thor did was provide some crowd control, which wanda could have been doing just as well had she come onto the field sooner

i'm not saying it wasn't a cool moment, but it wasn't end-all-be-all hype

You're looking at this from a meta stand point.

No one in the theater with the way it was set up is gonna think "eh, it's just crowd control"

Watch YT and DM reactions to it. No one is screaming about crowd control.

If you want to claim after the fact it's just awesome crowd control, fine, but that's not the picture the Russo's painted or how their audience reacted.
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no one in my audience reacted like you say, so I really don't get where you're coming from

the picture was always 'oh hey thor's finally here now too and he brought friends, dope'

and then immediately went into crowd control mode and never figured into any of the Order fights

I'd argue Groot finishing the axe was way more hype than their earth entrance
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not-edit edit: plus the only 'meta' thing I hold over Thor is what I mentioned earlier about him being the second biggest fuck up

should have gone for the head
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FFDragon posted...

not-edit edit: plus the only 'meta' thing I hold over Thor is what I mentioned earlier about him being the second biggest fuck up

should have gone for the head

It's not that bad of a fuck up! A headshot would have been much more likely to miss, his depth perception has to be off due to the new eye, it's a new weapon, and he still managed to hurl it through a full stones Gauntlet beam and catch Thanos in the chest and damn near killed him. Made him run like a bitch after the snap too.

I mean a headshot would have been ideal but it just wasn't in the cards.
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Also yeah my theater fuckin' exploded at the moment MWC is referring to. Dat Avengers theme so good.
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Im sure Thor was going for a kill.

Honestly, Thanos COULD be mortally wounded, although the IG could help.

Its starlords fault, still.

Even Starlord's fuck up probably had to happen as part of Strange's one way they win scenario!
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I took it he was near death given the little chat with Gamora's ghost
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DeathChicken posted...

I took it he was near death given the little chat with Gamora's ghost

Kinda what I got too.
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For the record, I don't begrudge Thor for aiming at center mass. The fact that he connected with a fully gauntleted Thanos at all is pretty spectacular, really.

It's the everything afterwards, the taunting and the slow torture of pushing the axe in further instead of finishing him off that I hold against him. Especially since Thor got that cave hallucination crash course on the Stones in Dark World, so he of all people should have known not to dick around there. It's completely in character for Thor, don't get me wrong, but it was the wrong move.

Plus, somehow, Thanos comes out looking the best when trying to kill people in this movie. Compare Thor taunting Thanos to Thanos almost comforting Tony (You have my respect/I hope they remember you) and it's almost comical how reversed the roles seem to be.
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All I know is this moment was the first time I've cheered in a movie since Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli arriving at the Pelennor Fields.
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I don't believe Thor knew Thanos could literally just snap and accomplish his goal, did he? Like, you'd think if you have a guy pretty much pinned down and are shoving an axe through his chest, he'd be pretty incapable of doing much, so I don't fault him entirely
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I mean...

Thor was literally eating some soup or something as Gamora explained to him exactly that, even saying he could do it was a "snap of his fingers just like that."

e: and he was definitely paying attention because thor immediately responds with "you seem to know an awful lot about thanos"
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If you complain about people stopping to talk in movies when they should be killing you will never be happy.

unless you watch horror movies
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FFDragon posted...

I mean...

Thor was literally eating some soup or something as Gamora explained to him exactly that, even saying he could do it was a "snap of his fingers just like that."

e: and he was definitely paying attention because thor immediately responds with "you seem to know an awful lot about thanos"

We, as nerds who know about this, know Gamora is serious about that since it's in the comics.

However, Thor probably thought she was exaggerating since the idea of snapping your fingers and erasing half the population is insanity and only Gamora understands she is being completely literal because she is the only one that has such knowledge of the Infinity Stones.

If the comics had never had the snap, we would have never expected Thanos to actually be able to snap and erase half the population. And certainly Thor wouldn't be able to understand that since I believe he snaps and Thor goes "What did you do!?"
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FFDragon posted...

I mean...

Thor was literally eating some soup or something as Gamora explained to him exactly that, even saying he could do it was a "snap of his fingers just like that."

e: and he was definitely paying attention because thor immediately responds with "you seem to know an awful lot about thanos"

Oh I forgot he was there for that
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

We, as nerds who know about this, know Gamora is serious about that since it's in the comics.

However, Thor probably thought she was exaggerating since the idea of snapping your fingers and erasing half the population is insanity

That's why I also brought up Thor's primer on the stones in Dark World. He probably has the most knowledge on them than anyone else, so he should know that she was being serious about their combined power.

Like I said, it's completely in Thor's character to do what he did but he had all the information necessary to know that it was the wrong play and he chose to do it anyway.
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I think you could argue that Thanos is really just on the pro-registration side of Civil War. He just really, really wants to make sure the unregistered heroes are brought to justice.
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Thanos' goal makes sense to a point, you'd think once he gathers the stones he'd have plenty of solutions to overpopulation that don't involve annihilating half the the universe.

But they did a good job making him an engaging three-dimension villain, the visual redesign helped a ton

The Drax scene also serves as fantastic foreshadowing: he didn't die at the end, he just stood really still and turned invisible.
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Ulti, you should check out Infinity Gauntlet which is closer to the material they are basing this Thanos arc on; you shouldn't go off of the comics you're using.

I suspect Nebula will play a crucial role as she did in the comics
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Ulti, you should check out Infinity Gauntlet which is closer to the material they are basing this Thanos arc on; you shouldn't go off of the comics you're using.

I suspect Nebula will play a crucial role as she did in the comics

I REALLY hope they don't end it that way.

It's the dumbest ending to anything in all of fiction.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

I REALLY hope they don't end it that way.

It's the dumbest ending to anything in all of fiction.

Buddy, I don't know how to even reason with this. It's a fantastic, fondly-regarded ending to a story that is considered one of Marvel's all-time greats. It fits the character perfectly and it encapsulates Thanos' greatest weaknesses and also his relationship with Nebula. In fact, it would play perfectly in the movies - they have built it over the course of the Guardians' films. I know you're not a comic guy, but if you haven't read it, you can't comment.
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