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DoomTheGyarados 05/23/18 10:58:05 PM #351: |
Plan for Meltdown. Get Terra up, throw her AOSB at it. Get Alphy up. Get Rapha up.
Should take care of it. --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/24/18 2:42:21 PM #352: |
Random question
Most people generally say "don't put Ace Striker on your DPS" but I realize that most people who play this game at a high level generally use Entrust strategies to just make their main DPS spam the hell out of soul breaks. I don't like that play method generally and have been doing well enough at avoiding it-- but assuming no Entrust does that advice tend to change or not? +30% damage seems like a lot to give up but getting soul breaks off a bit quicker matters. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xuxon 05/24/18 2:50:22 PM #353: |
Dr. Mogs/MM can be better than damage. ace striker, not really. only if it makes the difference between whether you can fire off an infused AOSB or not. or perhaps for characters with IC3 LM2.
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Lopen 05/24/18 2:54:39 PM #354: |
Well you'd generally want the 30% RMs over the 40% RMs because those affect soul breaks too right? I feel like +30% on everything would outweigh the additional +10% from the ability school.
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Xuxon 05/24/18 3:09:18 PM #355: |
i mean it depends on the characters and the fight. Orlandu in an earth-weak fight? i'm using 40% for sure. Yuffie in earth or dark weak? same.
i could see some physical characters with no OSB, AOSB, or starts-with-infusion being better with 40% even if the element of their SB matches the abilities they're using. though with what i have, i usually only end up using the 40%s for characters with bad/no SB in CMs. --- Grats to BKSheikah, a guru ahead of his time. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/24/18 3:36:44 PM #356: |
Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah I use the 40% Ninja pretty often with Yuffie (even on water her Soul Breaks seem to be a low enough portion of her damage that the 10% is probably better since I just have her Ultra) but if I have good soul breaks I'm usually using the 30%. Was just making sure the 40% wasn't affecting Soul Breaks in some way I was not aware of
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 05/24/18 4:11:46 PM #357: |
Lopen posted...
Actually these day most people entrust Relm/Aphmau for their healing and instant cast party buff. The soul break spam only really applies to a few characters like Tidus, Orlandeau, Lightning and Terra. Also if you're using a chain it's better to use Gathering Storm on your DPS than damage buffs since the quicker cast times will build the chain faster and make up for the damage loss. Looks like the Summer Fest is coming in mid June, earlier than expected. Next order of weekly events is Ignis, FF1 Fighter Wardrobe Record and Barbarbicca. --- https://imgur.com/6AevF0Y LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/24/18 4:23:37 PM #358: |
Oh right Gathering Storm was the other one I was gonna ask about I just forgot. That's good to know in any case.
Glad we're getting FF1 Fighter Wardrobe Record in a timely fashion although I kinda need more than his Burst to consider using him seriously. Wouldn't mind getting his Holy Chain at some point though. Kinda more appealing than Ramza's in some ways for me at least. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UInstinctGogeta 05/24/18 4:47:00 PM #359: |
So, from this conversation I couldn't quite figure out....
Should I use the 30% or 40% ones? Lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaxon 05/24/18 4:58:59 PM #360: |
SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
Looks like the Summer Fest is coming in mid June, earlier than expected. Next order of weekly events is Ignis, FF1 Fighter Wardrobe Record and Barbarbicca. I saw that, but it's not really "mid June"... Realms on Parade starts June 9, but aside from that the real fest starts June 24 which is pretty much exactly when expected. I use Ace Striker on Lightning because she already has fast actions (from her USB) and she hits the damage cap (because of en-element plus chain). If you don't meet both those criteria then you're better off with Gathering Storm or damage boost RM. But there are cases where Ace Striker makes sense. --- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/24/18 4:59:34 PM #361: |
30% if a significant amount of your character's damage is coming from the soul breaks themselves 40% otherwise
If you're in doubt whether the damage from the soulbreaks is significant or not the answer is probably 30% --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaxon 05/24/18 5:00:40 PM #362: |
UInstinctGogeta posted...
So, from this conversation I couldn't quite figure out.... My guideline is use 40% if most of your damage is coming from abilities (ninjas), use 30% if soul breaks are contributing a significant amount to your damage. --- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xuxon 05/24/18 5:08:10 PM #363: |
in general, 30%, unless very little of that character's damage comes from SBs. and even then, with someone like, say, the typical spellblade legend dive being +30% spellblade damage, 40% spellblade damage additive with that is virtually identical to 30% multiplicative, so may as well use the 30%.
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UInstinctGogeta 05/24/18 6:08:51 PM #364: |
Xuxon posted...
in general, 30%, unless very little of that character's damage comes from SBs. and even then, with someone like, say, the typical spellblade legend dive being +30% spellblade damage, 40% spellblade damage additive with that is virtually identical to 30% multiplicative, so may as well use the 30%. How can I know the difference between 30 and 40? Don't they both just say "much more"? Thx in advance ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/24/18 6:10:51 PM #365: |
Ability type (Monk, Ninja, etc) boosts start at 20% and count up to 40% so "Much More" for them is 40%
Everything else starts at 10% and counts up to 30% so "Much More" for them is 30% --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UInstinctGogeta 05/24/18 6:15:17 PM #366: |
Lopen posted...
Ability type (Monk, Ninja, etc) boosts start at 20% and count up to 40% so "Much More" for them is 40% So elemental and weapon are both 30? Here is a question. Say I had Beatrix using only her hola Sabre ability. Equipped with a sword. Functionally the damage output would be identical whether it was much more sword damage or much more Holy damage right? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/24/18 6:20:19 PM #367: |
I believe it would be close to identical. I believe it depends on what boosts you've unlocked through her record spheres.
Theory being that damage buffs of the same type have slight diminishing returns. So if you were min maxing you'd want to equip whichever buff is present less often in her sphere. So if she has more holy damage boosts in her spheres you'd want sword and if she has more sword damage boosts you'd want holy. I just pick random +30%s though because it hardly matters. Correct me if I'm wrong though. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MalcolmMasher 05/24/18 6:31:20 PM #368: |
I don't like that play method generally and have been doing well enough at avoiding it-- but assuming no Entrust does that advice tend to change or not? +30% damage seems like a lot to give up but getting soul breaks off a bit quicker matters.
Short answer: no. Long answer: If you're getting some kind of utility out of your Soul Break, like the front row party quick cast of Marche USB, or if you're trying to squeak a SB cast before some arbitrary point, like getting off both both your En-Element and your AOSB before the Magicite timer reaches 30s, then it may be worth going for a +SB RM instead of a +Dmg RM. But the general rule remains, DPS characters should have either DPS RMs or (for some setups) Thunder God. Should I use the 30% or 40% ones? I think the rule of thumb here is "chases should take +40% chase damage, others should take +30% weapon damage" but I haven't run any serious numbers. Functionally the damage output would be identical whether it was much more sword damage or much more Holy damage right? If your Beatrix has no other sword or Holy buffs, then yes. In practice, +sword will be better than +holy, because it's much easier for Beatrix to get +holy damage (weapon, armor, magicite) than +sword damage (a pittance from her record dive). Going from Sword Damage x1.03 to Sword Damage x1.33 is a bigger deal than going from Holy Damage x1.2 to Holy Damage x1.5. --- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UInstinctGogeta 05/24/18 6:33:15 PM #369: |
Lopen posted...
I believe it would be close to identical. I believe it depends on what boosts you've unlocked through her record spheres. This is the fucking most complex phone game I've ever heard of.... I STRUGGLE to think of an actual FF game that had this much crazy crap and nuance... Tactics maybe? XII if you were creating a god gambit? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/24/18 6:36:39 PM #370: |
MalcolmMasher posted...
because it's much easier for Beatrix to get +holy damage (weapon, armor, magicite) than +sword damage (a pittance from her record dive) ... oh I never realized that the boosts from Armor/Weapons and Magicite interacted that way Seems like the Weapon boosts would almost always be the strongest overall with that in mind. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MalcolmMasher 05/24/18 7:11:45 PM #371: |
Upon some research, it looks like I wasn't quite right:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/7utpqb/guide_all_about_offensive_boost/ Elemental buffs from Record Materia, Record Dive, Legend Materia, and Legend Dive are their own step. Elemental buffs from equipment, En-Element, "one of the attack's types matches the type of the current chain", and Magicite in-battle effects are their own step. . Elemental buffs from "one of the attack's types matches the type of the current chain, which is at X%" are their own step. (Yes, chains give two boosts, one fixed and one scaling.) Elemental buffs from Magicite passives are also their own step. So, returning to Beatrix. Since we're talking about RM choice, we can ignore everything except Record Materia, Record Dive, Legend Materia, and Legend Dive. If you don't have Beatrix dived, she's at 0% for holy and sword, so it doesn't matter. If you do her Record Dive, she's at 0% holy and 3% sword, so +holy is better. If you also do her Legend Dive, it looks like she gets 9% holy (19% with LM1) but sword is still 3%, so +sword is better. ...If you don't want to have to bother working that out every time, and you're going to be hitting an elemental weakness constantly, just set Tyro's "+30% damage against weakness" RM. That effect gets applied separately from element/weapon/school boosts, and very few characters get "+dmg against weakness" in their record/legend dives, so it's ideal for most characters - including a fully dived Beatrix. --- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/24/18 8:03:29 PM #372: |
Ah okay yeah that's how I thought it worked. So I was only slightly screwing myself out of damage by not paying attention
Though I do tend to lean weapon type over element which I believe if they're dived is generally correct --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Whiskey_Nick 05/24/18 9:16:46 PM #373: |
2/11
Celes USB Sabin LM --- I am Nick. Go Sens, Bills, Blue Jays! UotY 2015, HAIL BKSHEIKAH! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhiteLens 05/24/18 9:29:44 PM #374: |
First The Onion Knight Rises, now Strike Back at the Empire.
I probably missed a few others, but I sure like it when these event names are subtle movie references. --- http://www.backloggery.com/whitelens | https://myanimelist.net/profile/WhiteLens Kashikoi Kawaii BK_Sheikah won guru! Harasho! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xuxon 05/24/18 9:47:19 PM #375: |
200 mythril
got everything for Celes Edgar USB Locke USB Locke LMR Mog BSB pretty great. just missing Edgar LMR and Locke AOSB basically. --- Grats to BKSheikah, a guru ahead of his time. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhiteLens 05/24/18 9:53:01 PM #376: |
I realize that I don't pull for FFVI all that often despite it being my 2nd favorite FF game, so here I go...
3/11 Sabin LM Celes LM Edgar LM Talk about a giant whelp. --- http://www.backloggery.com/whitelens | https://myanimelist.net/profile/WhiteLens Kashikoi Kawaii BK_Sheikah won guru! Harasho! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 05/24/18 10:04:12 PM #377: |
100 mythril
Celes USB Locke glint Edgar bsb Edgar LM Celes USB please me and I like Edgar. Just seemed to be an ok banner to burn 100-150 mythril as it featured a lot of characters I like. Tempted to go one more. --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 05/24/18 10:08:35 PM #378: |
One more. 2/11
... 2 edgar USBs. Fine I love edgar so I will take it but come on --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MMXcalibur 05/24/18 10:39:33 PM #379: |
Saved up for a few months for this banner. My Locke is one of the finest specimens you will ever see and this banner was right up his alley.
100 Gem - Locke AOSB (Wow, great start!) 50 Mythril - Sabin LMR (Damn...) 50 Mythril - Sabin LMR (WTF, again?) 50 Mythril - Celes LMR (Dupe), Locke LMR (Well, I at least grabbed the LMR that's eluded me for ages.) 50 Mythril - Locke Glint (I'll take it.) 30 Mythril left over. Going to try to scramble to 50 for a shot at Locke's USB2. --- CHIEFS : Playoff incompetence. PENGUINS : Playoff competence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/24/18 11:30:31 PM #380: |
100 GEMMED EDGAR USB
AWESOME. DO I DRAW MORE OR NOT l DON'T KNOW! --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/24/18 11:36:02 PM #381: |
I kinda feel like I should at least give this one draw. I like almost all of the relics on this, and I want that Edgar LMR almost as much as I wanted his Ultra. Celes's Ultra would also be great to get and yeah all the characters on this are characters I use (well I don't use Celes but I would if I got her Ultra).
But man it's really tough because that was the grand prize for me by far. I need to look into when/if other relics on this come back. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/25/18 12:10:47 AM #382: |
Hmmm
So looks like the Celes relics I would want come back on an even better banner for the Spring Fest (or whatever our equivalent will be) in like 5 months, and I don't need her now. Locke is already strong with just his chain and kinda low priority anyway Mog's Burst would be kinda cool to have but it reappears a ton and isn't exactly moving the needle either way Most of the rest is pretty low priority honestly, though again, wouldn't mind having it One pull probably doesn't hurt, and getting Edgar's Legend Materia saves me from picking it on a later LMR selection but I dunno man. I think he'll be awesome just by diving him with the USB and I think I can probably just wait for his LMR here? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaedwards6400 05/25/18 12:37:19 AM #383: |
Anyone watch the production letter?
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Lopen 05/25/18 12:50:55 AM #384: |
I am watching it now as backround noise. I'll share anything I found interesting.
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JonThePenguin 05/25/18 1:01:21 AM #385: |
Havent watched it myself but I found a summary on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/8ls1ty/annotated_summary_of_producers_video/ Part 1: Answering FB Q&A --- JonThePenguin http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=erunion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JonThePenguin 05/25/18 1:01:57 AM #386: |
Part 4: New Events --- JonThePenguin http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=erunion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 05/25/18 2:42:10 AM #387: |
Uggh I can't beat Hades, I've been struggling against this bastard all day and even blew orbs on stuff like D'dia in hopes of beating him but I always get killed or status effect fucked, or he gets me while I'm trying to recover from his dispel at 50% HP. Black Cauldron is the most BS move I've seem so far in this game, it's an instant lose if you don't blink or have an astra prior, so most of the meter has to be entrusted to Rosa simply to avoid that move. Apparently you can DPS him into another phase where he skips Black Cauldron but with stupid high defenses and 975k HP I can't do that without a chain or Orlandeau/Beatrix USB and as stated before all that meter is going to Rosa. Oh and that stupid strike with 100% interrupt fuck that too.
Man all I want is that stupid mythril from the Cid Mission before it goes away. What a douchebag move to remove the Cid Missions a month before Ramza's chain comes out. --- https://imgur.com/6AevF0Y LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ultimaphazon 05/25/18 4:01:15 AM #388: |
What kind of Holy relics do you have?
If you have TGC OSB and something like Beatrix BSB along with OK pUSB (or maybe Shout 2.0), it should be doable. That's what I had for my first clear. --- Not changing this sig until Caius Ballad is released in FFRK. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 05/25/18 4:24:23 AM #389: |
I do have all of those, Beatrix isn't dived through and I just have her old BSB.
I mainly use Marche USB, Orlandeau OSB, Onion Knight pUSB, Shelke and Rosa (I wanted to use Ramza because I bought his LM but I need the crit buff since Hades' defenses are so high.) Marche has the 40% Knight Damage RM and Orlandeau has the 30% weakness RM and they're still only doing 3000/4000 with assault sabers (6000 with crits) I tried swapping Orlandeau with Firion since his burst has instant magic blink but it only does 4 hits and he has no access to holy abilities so all he can do is lifesiphon, even through he can dodge a magic blink his damage contribution is too low that Hades stays in his phase and does another Black Cauldron. I have Agrias USB/OSB but she's probably too slow compared to Orlandeau and she's not dived. Even tried Raines and Alphinaud in a damage reflect strategy and that didn't work. --- https://imgur.com/6AevF0Y LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ultimaphazon 05/25/18 4:54:07 AM #390: |
I feel that a dived Marche and Orlandeau should be good enough, though I'd understand if you don't want to dive TGC without his USB.
You're taking Unicorn as your magicite, right? Also, his first 4 turns in phase 2 and 3 are AoE Interrupt Strike Regular Strike Dark Flare Black Cauldron Shouldn't be hard to dodge the fixed Black Cauldrons with Rosa USB. He can use Black Cauldron outside of these fixed ones, but a) you could get lucky and not see any b) with some luck you could still dodge them Rosa USB c) Unicorn can save you once --- Not changing this sig until Caius Ballad is released in FFRK. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 05/25/18 5:01:23 AM #391: |
Orlandeau is fully dived already and yes Unicorn is my main magicite. The main problem is surviving the dark flare since I try to save Rosa's USB for Black Cauldron but most of the time someone's health is too low and I have to use her USB to heal (she has shellga and wrath so no single target heal) But If I use her USB too early the dark flare will eat the blink so I end up using two USBs just to dodge Black Cauldron but I keep failing to get the meter or the entrust hasn't reach her or her turn hasn't started and either someone dies or I get Malboro'd.
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Ultimaphazon 05/25/18 5:30:07 AM #392: |
You could give OK Ultra Cure or Curada as a backup healer. Might keep people safe from Dark Flare.
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Kaxon 05/25/18 2:08:05 PM #393: |
I'd try dropping wrath and giving her a real heal spell. She won't be able to ultra quite as much but might keep you alive better. I think I also used Affliction Break on Ramza, it'll give you a better chance of dodging the interrupts and surviving if you get hit by Black Cauldron when you don't have Astra.
I'm tempted to draw for Celes's USB but eh... there are a lot of good spellblades and I'm not crazy about the rest of the banner. I wish Shadow USB and Relm USB were here. --- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 05/25/18 6:51:10 PM #394: |
I switched Onion Knight from being a second entruster and equipped him with affliction break and Curada and that finally got me the win!
Curada actually helped a lot since I could that extra meter on Shelke and send it to Orlandeau for some more OSBs (needed to anyway since I was running short on hones for Marche and Orlandeau) Still it was a RNG fest since I have to rely on crits, doublecasts from Marche and, Unicorn's heals which is ironic since Hades only real weakness is that he's so scripted. And it's always panic time when he uses the dispel since you're a sitting duck for those cast times, especially the assault saber users. Also hate that I have to refresh wall since the fight takes so long, sometimes that cost me the fight as well. Can't wait till Summer Fest banner 1 and hopefully I get relics that let me get some delicious revenge on these bastards. --- https://imgur.com/6AevF0Y LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 05/25/18 9:14:46 PM #395: |
Fire Banner is tomorrow, of course Dena had to muck it up with Balthier stuff.
https://gamerdude.thisisourcorner.net/ffrk/ingame_announcements.html#?requestedId=18041218&pageNumber=0 Managed to get two more Hades magicite so I can finally get the level 99 Cid Mission for dark and not have to fight him again until I get better stuff. Now I can rest easy... until the FFVII Weapons and Zeromus... --- https://imgur.com/6AevF0Y LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaxon 05/25/18 9:49:00 PM #396: |
In a way I'm kinda glad because now I can just focus on the Fest fire banner and not be distracted by this one. They better not screw that one up.
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UInstinctGogeta 05/25/18 9:53:10 PM #397: |
Made 14 million gil today doing Tiamat (the one in Bonds beyond time) over and over again.
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Kaxon 05/26/18 1:50:24 PM #398: |
I'm having so much trouble picking my relics from the dream selection. What should I go for?
- Is there anything that will let me get my Midgardsormr time under 30? Doesn't seem like anything would help much. - How good is Vivi's LMR1? I don't really have anything for him, but he's one of my favorites so do I just grab this in the hopes of getting he USB later? I'm already pretty good for fire+ gear. - Take Serah LMR just for the ice boost? I have zero ice armors. But I've already sub-30ed Tiamat and Serah's not on the team. Other ones I'm kinda considering: - Terra OSB (mostly favoritism really) - Vivi's OSB (favoritism and +fire staff, but the SB itself is less relevant than Terra's because Vivi is all about doublecast abilities) - Papalymo LMR+OSB (already invested in him, I think I could get sub-30 Isgebind, but he doesn't have any more stuff coming) - Luneth OSB (for the spear) - Shadow LMR (good with his USB... which I don't have) --- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Whiskey_Nick 05/26/18 1:51:25 PM #399: |
Nothing wrong with taking stuff for your faves
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CIoudStrife 05/26/18 2:23:46 PM #400: |
Whiskey_Nick posted...
Nothing wrong with taking stuff for your faves That was the ORIGINAL point of this game in fact... lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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