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Full Throttle 04/28/18 3:57:45 PM #1: |
Do you think the "gay panic" defense is a justifiable defense?? - Results (2 votes)
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The Austin man was instead found guilty of criminally negligent homicide in the 2015 death of Daniel Spencer but agreed with him that murdering him over fears of a gay man making a move on him since he was a straight man was justifiable!! He could have faced life in prison. He was sentenced to just 10 years probation and six months in jail. He must also complete 100 hours of community service and pay $11,000 in restitution to Spencer's family. It happened in 2015 when Spencer invited James to his home to drink and play music as they were both music players. James claims that Daniel grew angry when he rejected his "sexual advances" and because he said Daniel moved towards him in a "threatening manner" by brandishing a glass, he then STABBED him several times!! He said "We're musicians and all that kind of stuff but i'm not a gay guy. It seemed like everything was alright and everything was fine. When i got ready to go, it seemed like s*** just started happening" James said that he was 37 youngers than me and had an arm length over him and felt he was going to SEXUALLY ASSAULT him. Charlie Baird, the defense said the verdict was not a fair one as he said he should have been ACQUITTED on self defense Prosecutor Matthew Foye said "The fact that the jury didn't let Miller on self-defense established that Daniel Spencer was a victim of a senseless killing by the defendant and he did not do anything to bring upon himself". There are 48 US States allow the "gay panic" or "trans panic" defense in which a defendant can cite a victim's sexuality or gender identity as justification for murder to obtain a lesser charge or reduced sentence as they can claim that any gay or trans person who makes a sexual advance on the is justified to use VIOLENCE Illionis joined California to prohibit the gay panic defense Do you think the gay panic defense is a justifiable defense?? Daniel - Deceased http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/28/16/4BA6067300000578-5668921-image-m-32_1524928602857.jpg James - Ugly Liar http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/28/16/4BA4D0FD00000578-5668921-image-a-33_1524928609765.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/28/16/4BA6157200000578-5668921-image-m-37_1524928744369.jpg Murder Scene - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/28/16/4BA614A500000578-5668921-image-a-35_1524928637802.jpg --- call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. Everytime a GFAQS User Steps On A Bug, I'll Stop Posting for 24 HOURS I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Final Fantasy2389 04/28/18 4:03:19 PM #2: |
Sounds like bull crap.
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LinkPizza 04/28/18 4:04:29 PM #3: |
Final Fantasy2389 posted...
Sounds like bull crap. To be honest, anybody would use any defense if it got them less time. Though, I totally agree with you.... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 04/28/18 4:05:07 PM #4: |
Final Fantasy2389 posted...
Sounds like bull crap. Why? Some people are very sexually aggressive and the victim looks in better shape than him so it could be intimidating. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 04/28/18 4:13:10 PM #5: |
Full Throttle posted...
Do you think the "gay panic" defense is a justifiable defense? Not really. If a woman made unwelcome advances towards him and he killed her due to feeling she was a threat would that be acceptable? Probably not. I understand self defence but this just seems like yet another insecure person who can't even fathom having a member of the same sex hit on him. It's not hard to reject them like you would with anyone who hits on you that you've no interest in. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/28/18 4:15:28 PM #6: |
one time my gay friend hit on me during a moment of I don't know what. he wasn't thinking. but yea, I didn't kill him and we got over it. never talked about it again.
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PKMNsony 04/28/18 4:16:20 PM #7: |
For something minor maybe, but not murdering
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LinkPizza 04/28/18 4:18:10 PM #8: |
The problem is you could literally use that for anything. Someone accidentally bumps you, you kill him, gay panic defense. Someone says excuse me to get past you, he grazes you a little, you kill him, gay panic defense. Someone says hi, he must be coming on to you, you kill him, gay panic defense. It's stupid. And like @wwinterj25 said, double standards, basically.
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ClarkDuke 04/28/18 5:47:06 PM #9: |
Zikten posted...
one time my gay friend hit on me during a moment of I don't know what. he wasn't thinking. but yea, I didn't kill him and we got over it. never talked about it again. This happened, ok? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philoktetes 04/28/18 5:48:27 PM #10: |
Daniel moved towards him in a "threatening manner" by brandishing a glass
fair --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 04/28/18 6:07:34 PM #11: |
Philoktetes posted...
Daniel moved towards him in a "threatening manner" by brandishing a glass Yeah. For self defense. That's not the issue. The issue is the bullshit called "gay panic" defense... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 04/28/18 7:04:17 PM #12: |
LinkPizza posted...
Philoktetes posted...Daniel moved towards him in a "threatening manner" by brandishing a glass Pretty much. I'm not sure stabbing is necessarily a proportional response to having a glass brandished at you, but presuming it was, the defense given still wasn't simple self-defense. The notion of it being more acceptable to kill somebody over unwanted sexual advances when they're the same sex as you is utter bullshit. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krow_Incarnate 04/28/18 10:28:53 PM #13: |
Are you going to kill every chick that makes an unwanted advance on you as well?
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