Current Events > People like to say "Oh, I was drunk, I didn't mean it/mean to do it",

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Sorry, that's not how that works. Drunk you is still you, and you are still accountable for "drunk you". If you would drive drunk, you're a drunk driver. If you're one of those people that says "Haha, wow, I'm so honest when I drink!" and then you walk around saying shitty things to people and harassing women, you're a shitty person. "Haha, Samantha you're so fat and ugly, it's no wonder you're single! HASHTAG BRUTALLY HONEST" The only person you're being more honest with is actually yourself. You're allowing yourself to be the piece of crap you are all the time, only now you're doing it out loud instead of in your head.

Being drunk isn't a magical get-out-of-jail-free card for being a giant douchebag.

You couldn't be more wrong
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Please tell me whyyyyyyyyyyyyy....
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

You couldn't be more wrong

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TC stop drunk posting
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You couldn't be more wrong

Spotted the alcoholics
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Yeah, I definitely couldn't be more wrong. Your insurmountable pile of counterarguments has completely destroyed my case. How could I have been so blind?

sounds like you don't like drinking so you classify people that drink as asses

news flash: no one is a good drunk, the more you drink the worse of a person you will become, there is no such thing as a charming person after a fifth of vodka
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I completely agree with TC and I drink pretty regularly.

Ive never been so drunk I couldnt at the very least understand what I was saying. Im a bit more loose lipped maybe, but I am fully aware of everything Im doing still. Im still me.

People use being drunk as an excuse.
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Its only true for me if I get blackout drunk. Then I just become a bit of a driveling mess apparently (obviously this is from hearsay) and I also get handsy. But in general, alcohol loosens your inhibitions.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Yeah I hate when people wont take responsibility for their drunk actions. Ive messed up real bad when drunk, gotta man up and accept what you did. Gotta question why those actions would ever make sense. Gotta learn from your mistakes. Cant do any of that if you just write it off as oh I was drunk.

you're getting "sorry, that was out of character" confused with not giving an apology at all
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HaVeNII7 posted...

I completely agree with TC and I drink pretty regularly.

Ive never been so drunk I couldnt at the very least understand what I was saying. Im a bit more loose lipped maybe, but I am fully aware of everything Im doing still. Im still me.

People use being drunk as an excuse.

This. Unless you're slipping in and out of consciousness, you're only showing more of your true self. Be it anger towards others or constant sadness revealing your insecurities.
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A drunk person's words are a sober person's thoughts.
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TC is correct about your feelings not changing while you're drunk, but to be honest some things need to be said, whether they're "mean" (whatever that means) or not.

Getting drunk, saying what you want to say, and then writing it off as "oh sorry I was drunk" is an excellent strategy.
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And also it really doesn't matter what you say when you're drunk if you would never really act that way when you're normal.
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thecoolgu posted...

TC is correct about your feelings not changing while you're drunk, but to be honest some things need to be said, whether they're "mean" (whatever that means) or not.

Getting drunk, saying what you want to say, and then writing it off as "oh sorry I was drunk" is an excellent strategy.

People's feelings definitely change when they're drunk. Some people get more emotional or have emotions they'd never have sober.

I don't agree with the "that wasn't me, I was drunk" excuses, but I do think people can be a lot different drunk than sober.
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Virus731 posted...

sounds like you don't like drinking so you classify people that drink as asses

news flash: no one is a good drunk, the more you drink the worse of a person you will become, there is no such thing as a charming person after a fifth of vodka

I love slamming back a few drinks, and I never classified people that drink as asses, don't put words in my mouth. As for the news flash, you said that the more you drink, the worse of a person you will become. I disagree. You become less dignified, sure. You lose your composure, absolutely. But a worse person? No. No, I don't think so, buddy.

shockthemonkey posted...

Yeah I hate when people wont take responsibility for their drunk actions. Ive messed up real bad when drunk, gotta man up and accept what you did. Gotta question why those actions would ever make sense. Gotta learn from your mistakes. Cant do any of that if you just write it off as oh I was drunk.

Yeah. What spawned this thread was actually a fight between some people I know. Guy and his gal (engaged) hosted a housewarming party. Drinks and good times were had all around. Except Douche, that is, who was invited by engaged gal (EG for short). Douche was constantly putting Guy down and trying to flirt with EG, who was only passively giving him the brush-off. Guy was obviously uncomfortable, so us bad drunk people (right Virus?) made efforts to keep Douche and EG separate. Most of us were crashing around 2AM, when we heard shrieking and shouting from the other room. Guy caught Douche and EG making out all hot and bothered. Apparently they snuck off to get frisky after they thought everyone was dead. Now they're both saying they were drunk and didn't know what they were doing. Meanwhile Guy is just falling apart. No responsibility. No accountability. And it's pretty obvious by how EG invited him there, they wanted to get horizontal to begin with and were ready to use getting drunk as an excuse. That's just sad. And you better believe Douche drove off after they got caught. Because why not throw drunk driving onto that shitty person souffle.

thecoolgu posted...

TC is correct about your feelings not changing while you're drunk, but to be honest some things need to be said, whether they're "mean" (whatever that means) or not.

Getting drunk, saying what you want to say, and then writing it off as "oh sorry I was drunk" is an excellent strategy.

Sure, it's an excellent strategy... if you're a coward. Chances are, if you can't say it to them sober, it actually doesn't need to be said. And if you don't have the balls to say it to them without hiding behind a bottle, you definitely shouldn't be saying it.

And if it really and truly does need to be said, leaving it up to drunk you to say it the right way probably isn't the best idea.

lol shit topic is shit topic, maybe try being older than 15 and having an opinion about this subject
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You're painting a pretty good picture right now. Mind if I frame that?

Being drunk just makes people more honest.
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you have some shitty friends TC lmfao
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Virus731 posted...

lol shit topic is shit topic, maybe try being older than 15 and having an opinion about this subject

"I have nothing whatsoever to counter his points so I'm going to pretend he's too young to have an opinion on this subject."
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Virus731 posted...

news flash: no one is a good drunk, the more you drink the worse of a person you will become, there is no such thing as a charming person after a fifth of vodka

false, I've never turned into a dick when I'm drunk
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My brother is drunk 4 days out of the week I totally get you tc
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Chicken_Butt posted...

Yeah. What spawned this thread was actually a fight between some people I know. Guy and his gal (engaged) hosted a housewarming party. Drinks and good times were had all around. Except Douche, that is, who was invited by engaged gal (EG for short). Douche was constantly putting Guy down and trying to flirt with EG, who was only passively giving him the brush-off. Guy was obviously uncomfortable, so us bad drunk people (right Virus?) made efforts to keep Douche and EG separate. Most of us were crashing around 2AM, when we heard shrieking and shouting from the other room. Guy caught Douche and EG making out all hot and bothered. Apparently they snuck off to get frisky after they thought everyone was dead. Now they're both saying they were drunk and didn't know what they were doing. Meanwhile Guy is just falling apart. No responsibility. No accountability. And it's pretty obvious by how EG invited him there, they wanted to get horizontal to begin with and were ready to use getting drunk as an excuse. That's just sad. And you better believe Douche drove off after they got caught. Because why not throw drunk driving onto that shitty person souffle.

You're making this into something far worse than it actually is. First, I'm confident that the guy wouldn't be driving unless he was in good enough condition to do so. Did you see any stories about accidents? If not, no harm; no foul.

Second, you seem to be forcing malicious intentions into this situation. I don't think they were planning to hook up based on your description of the events. Alcohol changes people though. With the drinks flowing, they just made an unexpected mistake that should be forgiven.
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HaVeNII7 posted...

I completely agree with TC and I drink pretty regularly.

Ive never been so drunk I couldnt at the very least understand what I was saying. Im a bit more loose lipped maybe, but I am fully aware of everything Im doing still. Im still me.

People use being drunk as an excuse.

Agreed.
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HaVeNII7 posted...

I completely agree with TC and I drink pretty regularly.

Ive never been so drunk I couldnt at the very least understand what I was saying. Im a bit more loose lipped maybe, but I am fully aware of everything Im doing still. Im still me.

People use being drunk as an excuse.

Eeeeh it's not that simple.

Being drunk basically removes a lot of your filters. The person you are is who you choose to be and not a compilation of all your waking thoughts. When sober you think a lot of things, some of which you don't actually believe and are just passing thoughts and therefore don't talk about them or act on them.

If you remove that filter through alcohol you're more prone to do regrettable shit. Yes, they're still things you thought of yourself but if you were sober you wouldn't have done them.

Choices make you who you are as a person, not thoughts, so if you compromise your filters then you're essentially becoming someone you're normally not.
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I think it depends on what it is.

"why'd you call me at 130?"

And to me "sorry I was drunk and wanted to see if you wanted to watch the game tomorrow" would be fine.

Actually most things I can forgive for drunkenness. It'd have to be egregious for me to not be able to chalk it up to people do stupid shit when they're drunk.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I think it depends on what it is.

"why'd you call me at 130?"

And to me "sorry I was drunk and wanted to see if you wanted to watch the game tomorrow" would be fine.

Actually most things I can forgive for drunkenness. It'd have to be egregious for me to not be able to chalk it up to people do stupid shit when they're drunk.

I don't want anyone to be confused in this thread. A harmless bumble like calling someone super early in the morning because you weren't thinking about what time it was, or tripping into a table and busting a lamp, those are things anyone would do drunk. I'm not mad about something like that. But a nice drunk person accidentally fucking up is a whole other world from a shitty drunk person deliberately doing something shitty. Like drunk driving or having an affair with an engaged woman.

TheRealDill2000 posted...

You're making this into something far worse than it actually is. First, I'm confident that the guy wouldn't be driving unless he was in good enough condition to do so. Did you see any stories about accidents? If not, no harm; no foul.

Second, you seem to be forcing malicious intentions into this situation. I don't think they were planning to hook up based on your description of the events. Alcohol changes people though. With the drinks flowing, they just made an unexpected mistake that should be forgiven.

Oh, of course. Count on you to know everything about people you don't know and everything about a situation you've only just heard about and secondhand no less. Thank goodness you were around, I'm so lost without you. I especially liked when you said "no harm; no foul" in reference to drunk driving. As long as you think you're good and nobody gets hurt, it's totally fine to drive drunk. How did I miss that?

juicebox4 posted...

you have some shitty friends TC lmfao

Yeah. I met these folks at the gym when I first started going. They're aight. Guy is really cool, but his fiance... Ehhh. Especially now, ehhhhhhhh.

I don't know why people always act like inhibitions aren't a part of your personality.
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Agreed TC
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Inhibition (noun)
1) a feeling that makes one self-conscious and unable to act in a relaxed and natural way.
2) a voluntary or involuntary restraint on the direct expression of an instinct.

Your inhibitions, whether due to your own sense of honor, fear of judgement, a moral code, or a need to blend into society, etc, are just you stopping yourself from doing things that you want to do. However, as intelligent human beings, our inhibitions aren't (or shouldn't be) the only things stopping us from enacting total anarchy as we see fit, so long as we can blame something else or someone else ("drunk me") later.

A man who is afraid to sing in public may stand on a table on karaoke night rocking out to some Queen after a few shots. This man does not want to kick Paul in the balls, however. In this scenario, he is the average drinker. Someone who can let loose after a few drinks and do things they enjoy, but not at the expense of others. He's just here to have a good time.

A second man, who does want to kick Paul in the balls, has a few shots and still doesn't kick Paul in the balls. That's because this man holds himself accountable. He knows that kicking Paul in the balls is wrong, and having a few drinks isn't a magical switch that changes that into "Hidey-Ho, the Paul-Ball Kick is A-go!" and launches him into a world without consequences. This is his conscience, separate from his inhibitions. Though he doesn't particularly like Paul, he is still a decent person, so he does not randomly commit acts of assault, even when drunk.

The third man gets drunk and kicks Paul in the balls as hard as he can; so hard, Paul loses consciousness. Paul suffers a fractured pelvis and has to be taken to the emergency room. Paul is buried in medical expenses. The third man says "lol sorry brah, that was drunk me, I'm not responsible for drunk me lol". Paul is not pleased, and insists the third man help cover some of the bills. Then the third man posts on Facebook that Paul is "a prick who should stfu" and says he wishes he kicked him harder. This is because the third man is a douche. The third man will free himself of his inhibitions, ignore his conscience, and then try to bail on the consequences with a thousand excuses.

shockthemonkey posted...

Remind me not to be anywhere near you if youre drinking. Youre always accountable for yourself.

nobody said you shouldn't be accountable for your actions.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Link HT posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

Remind me not to be anywhere near you if youre drinking. Youre always accountable for yourself.

nobody said you shouldn't be accountable for your actions.

...did we read the same post?

oh oops my bad didn't read the top part of that post
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I saw a dude make out with a very passable trans person in a bar once. Once someone told him he ran out of the bar nearly in tears. I'm pretty sure that would qualify as something he didn't mean to do because he couldn't tell in his current state of mind.
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can you spell virgin circle jerk
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Virus731 posted...

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nice job confirming it

I love how you claim you've never been a dick drunk, you've either never been drunk or are a liar
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Virus731 posted...

nice job confirming it

I love how you claim you've never been a dick drunk, you've either never been drunk or are a liar

no, I'm just not a dick, period

I've been drunk to the point where I threw up 3 times and don't remember what happened after that
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chill02 posted...

no, I'm just not a dick, period

might wanna check your facts

chill02 posted...

I've been drunk to the point where I threw up 3 times and don't remember what happened after that

so you got so drunk you weren't in control of your actions? sounds like a dick move to me
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If people do stupid things when they're drunk, maybe they should stop getting drunk instead of hoping everyone laughs and the credits roll when they admit they were drunk.
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