Poll of the Day > Trump pardons 'Scooter' Libby, former Cheney Chief Of Staff.

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WastelandCowboy
04/13/18 2:37:48 PM
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https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602209933/president-trump-pardons-scooter-libby-former-cheney-chief-of-staff

Updated at 2:07 p.m. ET

President Trump took the extraordinary step Friday of overruling the judgment of his predecessor, George W. Bush, and granting a pardon to I. Lewis Libby Jr., who served as chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney.

Libby, known as "Scooter," was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in 2007 in connection with the leak of a CIA officer's identity. Bush had commuted Libby's sentence but did not issue a full pardon.

"I don't know Mr. Libby, but for years, I have heard that he has been treated unfairly," Trump said in a statement from the White House. (Full statement below.) "Hopefully, this full pardon will help rectify a very sad portion of his life.'"

The Libby pardon is only the latest twist in a story of spies, leaks, accusations of hidden motives and abuse of power. In pardoning Libby, Trump, who complains almost daily about leaks, put himself in the peculiar position of pardoning a man convicted of involvement in a national-security leak.

There has been no indication that Trump had a particular interest in Libby's case until recently, when John Bolton, an ally of Cheney's, took over as national security adviser at the White House.

Democrats reacted sharply at Trump's pardoning. California Rep. Adam Schiff, ranking member of the House intelligence committee, linked the pardoning to the Russia investigation, charging the president is sending the message, "You have my back, and I'll have yours."

Adam Schiff tweeted...
On the day the President wrongly attacks Comey for being a leaker and liar he considers pardoning a convicted leaker and liar, Scooter Libby. This is the Presidents way of sending a message to those implicated in the Russia investigation: You have my back and Ill have yours.


Conservatives have long championed Libby's cause, but Bush, while commuting Libby's 2 1/2-year sentence, thus saving him from prison, refused to pardon him.

Pressed repeatedly by Cheney at the time of Libby's conviction, Bush asked a team of White House lawyers to examine the case. But when they concluded that the jury had substantial reason to convict, Bush told his vice president that he would not pardon Libby, prompting an angry Cheney to reply, "You are leaving a good man wounded upon the field of battle."

In his book, Bush said he was taken aback by the harshness of the remark. "In eight years, I had never seen Dick like this, or even close to it. I worried that the friendship we had built was about to be severely tested."

Indeed, according to friends of both men, the relationship never was the same between the two men.

In pardoning Libby, Trump has not done much concrete for Cheney's former chief of staff. Libby was disbarred after his conviction but reinstated in 2016. In some jurisdictions, a convicted felon also loses the right to vote, but in the District of Columbia and Maryland, felons can vote once they have served their time in prison.

A pardon grants forgiveness for a crime, not exoneration, but many see it as removing the stigma of a conviction.

Trump's pardon may send another message that he is willing to use his pardon power to reward loyalists and to punish prosecutors he sees as running amok.

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WastelandCowboy
04/13/18 2:38:25 PM
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Libby was prosecuted by Patrick Fitzgerald, a longtime career prosecutor, appointed to investigate the leak of the CIA officer's identity by then-Deputy Attorney General James Comey.

Comey went on to become FBI director and was fired by Trump, a move that led to the appointment of Robert Mueller, another former FBI director whom Trump almost daily accuses of conducting a "witch hunt."

The saga that led up to Libby's conviction began in 2003 when Joseph Wilson, a former diplomat, wrote a New York Times op-ed column, contending that Cheney had deliberately ignored evidence showing that Iraq was not seeking to acquire material needed to build nuclear weapons.

Wilson's claim, undercutting the justification for waging war against Iraq, was based on material he gathered in Niger for the CIA.

To undercut Wilson's claim, administration officials told reporters that he had been sent on the fact-finding mission at the behest of his wife, Valerie Plame, who worked at the CIA.

Publication of that leak blew her cover, a potential federal crime. Libby was not charged with disclosing a CIA officer's identity, however. Nor was the man who actually did blow Plame's cover, former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. But Armitage readily admitted his involvement to prosecutors and a grand jury.

Libby, however, was convicted on four counts of obstruction of justice, lying to the FBI and lying to the grand jury. He maintained that the differences between his testimony and others was just a matter of a different recollection of events.

In all, eight witnesses, many of them high-ranking members of the Bush administration, contradicted Libby's testimony. And the judge in sentencing him called the evidence "overwhelming."

Bush, in examining the case afterward, was willing to save Libby from going to prison by commuting his sentence, but he was not willing to pardon him.

Trump's decision to pardon Libby is one of three pardons he has issued in his nearly 15 months in office. Most notably, he pardoned Joe Arpaio, the former Arizona sheriff whose crackdown on immigrants in the U.S. illegally, resulted in a conviction for criminal contempt.

That was a charge supported by the Trump Justice Department until the president pardoned him.

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WastelandCowboy
04/13/18 2:38:48 PM
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Here's the full statement from the White House:

"Today, President Donald J. Trump issued an Executive Grant of Clemency (Full Pardon) to I. 'Scooter' Lewis Libby, former Chief of Staff to Vice President Richard Cheney, for convictions stemming from a 2007 trial. President George W. Bush commuted Mr. Libby's sentence shortly after his conviction. Mr. Libby, nevertheless, paid a $250,000 fine, performed 400 hours of community service, and served two years of probation.

"In 2015, one of the key witnesses against Mr. Libby recanted her testimony, stating publicly that she believes the prosecutor withheld relevant information from her during interviews that would have altered significantly what she said. The next year, the District of Columbia Court of Appeals unanimously reinstated Mr. Libby to the bar, reauthorizing him to practice law. The Court agreed with the District of Columbia Disciplinary Counsel, who stated that Mr. Libby had presented 'credible evidence' in support of his innocence, including evidence that a key prosecution witness had 'changed her recollection of the events in question.'

"Before his conviction, Mr. Libby had rendered more than a decade of honorable service to the Nation as a public servant at the Department of State, the Department of Defense, and the White House. His record since his conviction is similarly unblemished, and he continues to be held in high regard by his colleagues and peers.

"In light of these facts, the President believes Mr. Libby is fully worthy of this pardon. 'I don't know Mr. Libby,' said President Trump, 'but for years I have heard that he has been treated unfairly. Hopefully, this full pardon will help rectify a very sad portion of his life.' "
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Andromicus
04/13/18 2:39:13 PM
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Trump takes perjury very seriously
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streamofthesky
04/13/18 4:17:09 PM
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Hey, @Zeus

Your pal just pardoned a traitor who outed a loyal US spy for her husband shining light on the lies that lead us to war with Iraq! After appointing John fucking Bolton to national security advisor!
You know....your pal Donald Trump, the same guy you used to defend as less of a war-monger than Hillary Clinton.

How do you feel about this, Zeus? Please, let's see how your views have "adapted" because Trump is now revealed to be a neocon war hawk.

I've never even used the @ thing "un-provoked" before, but damn it, this is one time I really want to make sure Zeus sees a topic!
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Doctor Foxx
04/13/18 4:43:32 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Hey, @Zeus

Your pal just pardoned a traitor who outed a loyal US spy for her husband shining light on the lies that lead us to war with Iraq! After appointing John fucking Bolton to national security advisor!
You know....your pal Donald Trump, the same guy you used to defend as less of a war-monger than Hillary Clinton.

How do you feel about this, Zeus? Please, let's see how your views have "adapted" because Trump is now revealed to be a neocon war hawk.

I've never even used the @ thing "un-provoked" before, but damn it, this is one time I really want to make sure Zeus sees a topic!

Of course he'll see a trump topic are you kidding
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Lokarin
04/13/18 4:44:20 PM
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Get you one
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Mead
04/13/18 4:50:53 PM
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Hes testing the waters to see if he can get away with firing the attorney general
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Zeus
04/13/18 8:58:11 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Hey, @Zeus

Your pal just pardoned a traitor who outed a loyal US spy for her husband shining light on the lies that lead us to war with Iraq! After appointing John fucking Bolton to national security advisor!
You know....your pal Donald Trump, the same guy you used to defend as less of a war-monger than Hillary Clinton.

How do you feel about this, Zeus? Please, let's see how your views have "adapted" because Trump is now revealed to be a neocon war hawk.

I've never even used the @ thing "un-provoked" before, but damn it, this is one time I really want to make sure Zeus sees a topic!


Hey @streamofthesky

Is your life so empty, so devoid of meaning that you have nothing better to do with your time than to attempt to troll me? Is it so wanton that you can't even wait to see if I might respond to a topic -- one of no real significance, I might -- that you had to rush out and try to drag me into it? How do you feel, Stream? What hollowed out your soul and made you so empty that you need my attention to validate your existence?

But because you simply cannot wait to hear my opinion -- because it's so crucial to your fragile emotional status -- I'll answer in the most apropos of ways:

C0nVpgT

Scooter Libby's official charge was lying under oath, not "outing a spy." His sentence for that crime was commuted by GWB so he never served any time. At this point, the pardon is meaningless.
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WastelandCowboy
04/13/18 10:33:05 PM
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Zeus posted...
Scooter Libby's official charge was lying under oath, not "outing a spy." His sentence for that crime was commuted by GWB so he never served any time. At this point, the pardon is meaningless.

Which begs the question, why pardon him?
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