Poll of the Day > Man is charged with MURDER after a 10 y/o was DECAPITATED on his WATERSLIDE!!!

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Full Throttle
04/08/18 8:36:09 PM
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Have you ever gone on a waterslide before? - Results (2 votes)
Yes
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No but i would like to one day
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Never
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Jeff Henry, the Co-Owner of Schlitterbahn Water Parks and Resorts from Kansas is charged with SECOND DEGREE MURDER after the 10 y/o Son of a Republican Congressman was DECAPITATED on one of his rides!!

He had to fly back to Texas for his other court hearing after he was charged with threatening a woman there.

But his manslaughter charge is for reckless second degree of 10 y/o Caleb Schwab who died on a waterslide when his raft went airborne and hit an overhead loop.

The Designer of that death slide was also charged with second degree, John Timothy Schooley as the indictment says he lacked technical or engineering expertise in amusement park rides. Apparently he rushed the design in order to attract attention to a Travel Channel Show

They also hid the fact that this ride was causing injuries as 13 people were injured before Caleb's death, including 2 who were concussed and a 15 y/o who was temporarily BLIND fro the ride

Caleb was the son of State Rep. Scott Schawb as the family settled with the park for 20 MILLION

Caleb died when he was on the ride with 2 other women as the raft was not heavy enough with all 3 of them going down the slide where it suddenly slid off. 2 Teen Girls witnessed the horrific accident and saw Caleb had been decapitated after seeing the pool of blood at the bottom of the slide...Jess Sanford and Melanie Cocke remembered the horror that day and screaming when they saw his body...

Have you ever gone down a waterslide before?

The Demon Waterslide -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/08/00/4ACA0B7300000578-0-image-a-37_1523143335715.jpg

Caleb - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/08/00/3729357D00000578-0-image-a-60_1523143580649.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/08/00/4AC183ED00000578-0-He_was_later_released_after_posting_a_500_000_bond_but_was_force-a-62_1523144495174.jpg

Jeff - Charged with murder

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/08/00/4AEBDBCB00000578-0-image-m-59_1523143575297.jpg

John - Charged with murder

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/03/16/4ACA0DAB00000578-0-image-a-23_1522769128216.jpg

Jess and Melanie - Saw Caleb's body

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/nintchdbpict000258451920.jpg?w=960
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Zeus
04/12/18 8:23:21 PM
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Kinda weird, isn't it? Usually the charge is manslaughter or reckless endangerment.

Full Throttle posted...

Jess and Melanie - Saw Caleb's body


They should have sued, too. That's duress. Clearly it gave that girl on the right a horrible eating disorder.
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ninja_lootz
04/12/18 8:30:25 PM
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Zeus posted...
Kinda weird, isn't it? Usually the charge is manslaughter or reckless endangerment.

Full Throttle posted...
But his manslaughter charge is for reckless second degree of 10 y/o Caleb Schwab who died on a waterslide when his raft went airborne and hit an overhead loop.

This is Duckbear. Do you think he knows the difference?
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Zeus
04/12/18 9:01:29 PM
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ninja_lootz posted...
Zeus posted...
Kinda weird, isn't it? Usually the charge is manslaughter or reckless endangerment.

Full Throttle posted...
But his manslaughter charge is for reckless second degree of 10 y/o Caleb Schwab who died on a waterslide when his raft went airborne and hit an overhead loop.

This is Duckbear. Do you think he knows the difference?


One of the Kansas newspaper articles I googled specifically mentions Murder 2 as well. I would assume that a newspaper would get it right.
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Sephiroth C Ryu
04/12/18 9:20:33 PM
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So a guy designed an unsafe waterslide. A rushed job. That is not murder.

13 people were injured before this kid lost his head. The designer was not the one who hushed that. The park did. The park knew full well it was dangerous. They had ample time to shut down the slide when the event it was rushed for was completed/underway and the first injury reports came in.

The only one(s) who should be charged for anything related to the death itself are the park owners. The designer can probably be sued and or charged for other things, but any form of murder or manslaughter type charge is not one of them.
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Revelation34
04/12/18 9:25:45 PM
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...
So a guy designed an unsafe waterslide. A rushed job. That is not murder.

13 people were injured before this kid lost his head. The designer was not the one who hushed that. The park did. The park knew full well it was dangerous. They had ample time to shut down the slide when the event it was rushed for was completed/underway and the first injury reports came in.

The only one(s) who should be charged for anything related to the death itself are the park owners. The designer can probably be sued and or charged for other things, but any form of murder or manslaughter type charge is not one of them.
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Yeah I doubt he will actually get charged with murder. If he does then it's clearly only because the kid was the son of somebody in government.
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LinkPizza
04/12/18 9:45:01 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Sephiroth C Ryu posted...
So a guy designed an unsafe waterslide. A rushed job. That is not murder.

13 people were injured before this kid lost his head. The designer was not the one who hushed that. The park did. The park knew full well it was dangerous. They had ample time to shut down the slide when the event it was rushed for was completed/underway and the first injury reports came in.

The only one(s) who should be charged for anything related to the death itself are the park owners. The designer can probably be sued and or charged for other things, but any form of murder or manslaughter type charge is not one of them.
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Yeah I doubt he will actually get charged with murder. If he does then it's clearly only because the kid was the son of somebody in government.

Yeah. I figured as much when I saw Congressman...
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Zeus
04/12/18 9:49:27 PM
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...
So a guy designed an unsafe waterslide. A rushed job. That is not murder.

13 people were injured before this kid lost his head. The designer was not the one who hushed that. The park did. The park knew full well it was dangerous. They had ample time to shut down the slide when the event it was rushed for was completed/underway and the first injury reports came in.

The only one(s) who should be charged for anything related to the death itself are the park owners. The designer can probably be sued and or charged for other things, but any form of murder or manslaughter type charge is not one of them.
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The problem there is that the designer was completely unqualified to create the right. He has some culpability when the ride goes wrong just as a result of that.
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LinkPizza
04/12/18 9:57:03 PM
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Some, but I don't think Manslaughter. And definitely not murder...
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ClarkDuke
04/12/18 9:59:40 PM
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Zeus posted...
Clearly it gave that girl on the right a horrible eating disorder.

Classic JanwayDaahl, ok?
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adjl
04/15/18 8:18:10 AM
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Zeus posted...
Kinda weird, isn't it? Usually the charge is manslaughter or reckless endangerment.


Usually it is, and I believe that's how the charge started, but they upgraded the charge after it came out how actively the owner tried to suppress prior reports of injuries. This death was a matter of when, not if, and the owner knew that and chose to carry on anyway, which gives him more responsibility than manslaughter usually entails. It's legally cumbersome, but I understand upgrading the charge.
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Revelation34
04/15/18 7:12:57 PM
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adjl posted...
Zeus posted...
Kinda weird, isn't it? Usually the charge is manslaughter or reckless endangerment.


Usually it is, and I believe that's how the charge started, but they upgraded the charge after it came out how actively the owner tried to suppress prior reports of injuries. This death was a matter of when, not if, and the owner knew that and chose to carry on anyway, which gives him more responsibility than manslaughter usually entails. It's legally cumbersome, but I understand upgrading the charge.


Even then that shouldn't count as murder.
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adjl
04/15/18 8:03:42 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
adjl posted...
Zeus posted...
Kinda weird, isn't it? Usually the charge is manslaughter or reckless endangerment.


Usually it is, and I believe that's how the charge started, but they upgraded the charge after it came out how actively the owner tried to suppress prior reports of injuries. This death was a matter of when, not if, and the owner knew that and chose to carry on anyway, which gives him more responsibility than manslaughter usually entails. It's legally cumbersome, but I understand upgrading the charge.


Even then that shouldn't count as murder.


It's a weird grey area where it wasn't accidental enough to qualify as manslaughter (he knew how dangerous it was and chose to continue operating), but it also wasn't completely intentional. I think it could be likened to randomly shooting into a crowd. You're not actually planning to kill anyone by doing so, but you know there's a high likelihood it's going to happen, so if it does, you're going to be responsible for their murder.

It'd be one thing if this were just a random, unforeseen accident, but it wasn't. This exact same malfunction had happened many times before, and rather than consulting anyone to make the ride safer, closing it, or even posting warning signs, he covered up those incidents.
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JOExHIGASHI
04/15/18 8:11:17 PM
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Revelation34
04/15/18 10:00:02 PM
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adjl posted...
Revelation34 posted...
adjl posted...
Zeus posted...
Kinda weird, isn't it? Usually the charge is manslaughter or reckless endangerment.


Usually it is, and I believe that's how the charge started, but they upgraded the charge after it came out how actively the owner tried to suppress prior reports of injuries. This death was a matter of when, not if, and the owner knew that and chose to carry on anyway, which gives him more responsibility than manslaughter usually entails. It's legally cumbersome, but I understand upgrading the charge.


Even then that shouldn't count as murder.


It's a weird grey area where it wasn't accidental enough to qualify as manslaughter (he knew how dangerous it was and chose to continue operating), but it also wasn't completely intentional. I think it could be likened to randomly shooting into a crowd. You're not actually planning to kill anyone by doing so, but you know there's a high likelihood it's going to happen, so if it does, you're going to be responsible for their murder.

It'd be one thing if this were just a random, unforeseen accident, but it wasn't. This exact same malfunction (that is, rafts leaving the track at the top of the second hill) had happened many times before, and rather than consulting anyone to make the ride safer, closing it, or even posting warning signs, he covered up those incidents.


Shooting into a crowd would clearly be intentionally trying to murder somebody. They're called spree killings.
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adjl
04/17/18 9:06:41 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Shooting into a crowd would clearly be intentionally trying to murder somebody.


Not necessarily. If you're not actually aiming for anyone, and you only take one shot, you can't really be said to be trying to murder anyone. There's a decent chance you'll kill somebody, because that's what guns do, but it's hardly guaranteed enough to be considered intentional.

The actual analogy is a bit shaky, obviously, but the point is that it's a case where you may not be deliberately trying to kill somebody, but where your conduct goes far beyond mere negligence such that manslaughter or reckless endangerment wouldn't be appropriate charges. This guy knew the ride had a solid chance of killing or seriously injuring somebody, but he chose to continue inviting people onto it. That's more than just negligence.
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