Poll of the Day > How come you can shorten British to Brit's

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Australians to Aussies but its offensive to shorten japan
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You know why

One is derogatory and one isn't. Although I'd say the one that's a modified version of the Japanese name for Japan is worse.
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It's not, this is the only place I've ever seen that thinks it is.

Red_Frog posted...

It's not, this is the only place I've ever seen that thinks it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J**

J** is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese". Today it is generally regarded as an ethnic slur among Japanese minority populations in other countries, although English-speaking countries differ in the degree to which they consider the term offensive. In the United States, Japanese Americans have come to find the term very controversial or extremely offensive, even when used as an abbreviation.[1] In the past, J** was not considered primarily offensive; however, during and after the events of World War II, the term became derogatory.

Hey look you're wrong

You'll have to change the asterisks to the term in the link, obviously.

Crazy how nature do that
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SkynyrdRocker posted...

Red_Frog posted...

It's not, this is the only place I've ever seen that thinks it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J**

J** is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese". Today it is generally regarded as an ethnic slur among Japanese minority populations in other countries, although English-speaking countries differ in the degree to which they consider the term offensive. In the United States, Japanese Americans have come to find the term very controversial or extremely offensive, even when used as an abbreviation.[1] In the past, J** was not considered primarily offensive; however, during and after the events of World War II, the term became derogatory.

Hey look you're wrong

You'll have to change the asterisks to the term in the link, obviously.

Wikipedia.

Just call them Nips, i guess?
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Red_Frog posted...

SkynyrdRocker posted...

Red_Frog posted...

It's not, this is the only place I've ever seen that thinks it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J**

J** is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese". Today it is generally regarded as an ethnic slur among Japanese minority populations in other countries, although English-speaking countries differ in the degree to which they consider the term offensive. In the United States, Japanese Americans have come to find the term very controversial or extremely offensive, even when used as an abbreviation.[1] In the past, J** was not considered primarily offensive; however, during and after the events of World War II, the term became derogatory.

Hey look you're wrong

You'll have to change the asterisks to the term in the link, obviously.

Wikipedia.

Lol okay junior

SkynyrdRocker posted...

Lol okay junior

Looks like a good thing for a tag
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SkynyrdRocker posted...

You know why

This got me.
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Because "brits" and "aussies" weren't historically used as ethnic slurs for an oppressed minority. It's offensives to truncate "Japanese" because the term was deliberately used to deride and offend them.
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When I was in elementary school we were having our wwii unit and on the final test I could not remember how to spell Japanese. So I used the shortened version. When I got sent to the counselor for being "racist" they thought it was the funniest thing they'd ever heard.
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Does that mean I cannot name one of my favourite songs by Abbingdon Boys School on gamefaqs?
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we already had a topic where zeus decided to not know why the three letter acronym for japan most commonly used isnt J**, its JPN to get attention.

so, yeah. you can continue on this path or wise up ya know. because if the two options are taking zeus' side or running away, good lord let me stow away on a freight train.

EvilMegas posted...

Just call them Nips, i guess?

Nips? Nippons? Lol
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JamaalCharles39 posted...

When I was in elementary school we were having our wwii unit and on the final test I could not remember how to spell Japanese. So I used the shortened version. When I got sent to the counselor for being "racist" they thought it was the funniest thing they'd ever heard.

That is what kind of sucks about this particular slur. It's such an intuitive way to truncate the name, such that it's very easy to use it out of ignorance instead of malice. I'm rather annoyed at the racists that ruined a perfectly good term.
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Arv got modded for it before didnt use it an an offensive way didnt know it was offensive but then its like people say brits and thats pretty much the same thing like it or not it is
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JamaalCharles39 posted...

When I was in elementary school we were having our wwii unit and on the final test I could not remember how to spell Japanese

How old were you >__>
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RCtheWSBC posted...

JamaalCharles39 posted...

When I was in elementary school we were having our wwii unit and on the final test I could not remember how to spell Japanese

How old were you >__>

9 or 10.
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ArvTheGreat posted...

Arv got modded for it before didnt use it an an offensive way didnt know it was offensive but then its like people say brits and thats pretty much the same thing like it or not it is

Grammatically it's the same thing. Culturally it is not. Ergo, you have to keep the distinction in mind when interacting with other people.
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My Grand-Dad (WWII vet) used the term for years, I don't think he realized it was technically a slur when he was like "I met this really nice *** guy fishing today"

EvilMegas posted...

Just call them N***, i guess?

Lmao. This is considered a slur too I think. I just came off a warning so Im playing it safe with the censor.
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The things people choose to be offended by
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Cacciato posted...

EvilMegas posted...

Just call them N***, i guess?

Lmao. This is considered a slur too I think. I just came off a warning so Im playing it safe with the censor.

Oh shit for real?
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You seriously didn't know that was a slur either?
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That is one slur that arv finds stupid to call it a slur or offensive
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I'd guess it's due to the fact that people use it as a racist term. Same with the short version of Pakistan. Although a country isn't a race so it really makes no sense why some folk use it in this way.
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RCtheWSBC posted...

You seriously didn't know that was a slur either?

Yeah, seriously. Thats nuts
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I didn't know either.
Now I do.
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arv still finds it weird that its a slur just by shortening the name? like how?
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ArvTheGreat posted...

arv still finds it weird that its a slur just by shortening the name? like how?

Most slurs don't make much sense.
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Slurs directed at "history's winners" or white people don't seem to ever count. Look at stuff like "Yanks" and "Limies"... Nobody cares. I understand this in as much as those in power don't have an inferiority complex or anything to generally be upset by.

"Kraut" (attn: mods - my dad's family are German) seems to get a pass. The Wolfenstein II discussions went nuts with it... IMO, you either ban every racial slur regardless of its perceived severity or allow all of them. Real bigotry exists within treating people differently, be it better or worse.
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But has anyone actually said where the racism lies?

What you are trying to tell me that this is racist is because some american soldiers who hated the enemies they were fighting( who bombed their countries' warships with no reason) who also called them j*** (probably just because it was convenient) is the reason why now its considered racist ?

That sounds like a load of horseshit if thats the reason.

dioxxys posted...

But has anyone actually said where the racism lies?

What you are trying to tell me that this is racist is because some american soldiers who hated the enemies they were fighting( who bombed their countries' warships with no reason) who also called them j*** (probably just because it was convenient) is the reason why now its considered racist ?

That sounds like a load of horseshit if thats the reason.

thats what arv thinks
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they lost the war, so we turned their names into a racial slur
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helIy posted...

they lost the war, so we turned their names into a racial slur

I thought that racial slur was already being used in anti-Japanese propaganda during the war.
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It is really stupid that you can't. When people have to continually explain why something is offensive in order to keep the offense alive, it's obviously not that bad. And, quite frankly, it was *NEVER* really a slur. The fact that it conveyed negative feelings is inherent within the actual feelings towards that group. And at the time there were (and technically still are) many very real slurs which evoked racial stereotypes.
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