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babyeatermax
04/02/18 2:08:54 PM
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Some dude at the place I work got pissed when everyone started shitting on Nascar as a sport
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Punctus_Pilot
04/02/18 2:10:25 PM
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They are, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't shit on Nascar
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AlephZero
04/02/18 2:10:53 PM
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yes

nascar is real unlike fake "sports" like professional wrestling
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ArchiePeck
04/02/18 2:12:20 PM
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There actually are quite substantial physical demands on the human body driving at high speeds. Lots of them end up with neck problems, you need to really condition your body to deal with that!
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eston
04/02/18 2:12:38 PM
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I don't
It's just operating a machine for several hours. Racing is a sport, but drivers are not athletes IMO
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Balrog0
04/02/18 2:14:41 PM
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yep just like starcraft II players
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sobergermanguy
04/02/18 2:17:17 PM
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Cheerleaders >>> Nascar drivers
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thrashmetal14
04/02/18 2:31:38 PM
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Not sure if I'd call them athletes, but it definitely takes a lot of mental ability/skill and at least a certain level of physical fitness.
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OldSnakeLiveon8
04/02/18 2:34:00 PM
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ArchiePeck posted...
There actually are quite substantial physical demands on the human body driving at high speeds. Lots of them end up with neck problems, you need to really condition your body to deal with that!

Riding a horse has physical demands. Doesn't make jockeys athletes.
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CruelBuffalo
04/02/18 2:34:03 PM
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I consider them to be as much of an athlete as a golfer is.
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DragonGirlYuki
04/02/18 2:34:33 PM
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It is a motorsport.
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chrono625
04/02/18 2:36:13 PM
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eston posted...
I don't
It's just operating a machine for several hours. Racing is a sport, but drivers are not athletes IMO


See. I thought the same thing. Until I drove an actual car on the monster mile track in Dover.

My whole outlook on nascar and the drivers changed dramatically after that.
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thecoolgu
04/02/18 2:39:54 PM
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They're definitely not football athletic, but the average person would probably throw up if they drove one lap in one of those cars.

Apparently it isn't very hard to spin out either, and you will spin out if you even yank the steering wheel 5-10 degrees the wrong way.

So take that for what you will.
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DevsBro
04/02/18 2:47:24 PM
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Athletes, I would say yes.

But that doesn't make NASCAR a sport.
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GreatEvilEmpire
04/02/18 2:48:47 PM
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Yes, they are athletes.

I don't think people understand the amount of endurance required to control those cars for long periods of time and endure the heat inside that car.

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whitelytning
04/02/18 2:58:45 PM
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No.

Some of them might also be athletic but driving a race car is not an athletic competition so I don't consider them athletes.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
04/02/18 3:03:35 PM
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Not the kind of "athlete" I'd liken to association football, tennis or basketball players for example.
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spudger
04/02/18 3:04:40 PM
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Punctus_Pilot posted...
They are, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't shit on Nascar

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kideatermaximus
04/02/18 8:23:42 PM
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Nope
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chill02
04/02/18 8:25:10 PM
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yes

having to drive at 200 mph for hours is taxing, and you sweat a lot because there's no A/C. Some physical endurance is required.
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CanuckCowboy
04/02/18 8:25:44 PM
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Yes and no. Mostly no.

Anyone doubting the intense physical demands of being a nascar driver is ignorant though.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
04/02/18 8:28:37 PM
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In a different kind of way they are.

Hell I hate driving to work let alone 100dreds of miles per hour on end.
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OldSnakeLiveon8
04/02/18 8:31:37 PM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
ArchiePeck posted...
There actually are quite substantial physical demands on the human body driving at high speeds. Lots of them end up with neck problems, you need to really condition your body to deal with that!

Riding a horse has physical demands. Doesn't make jockeys athletes.


Wait wait wait hold on.

Is this guy serious?

Yes. I'm sorry, but I just can't consider sitting on a horse a sport and the people who do it athletes. Maybe get off the damn horse and try running those laps yourself
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/02/18 8:34:15 PM
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I don't know if I'd use the word "athlete" to describe them, but I completely get and respect what it takes to succeed at that. Between tolerance to the heat in those outfits/gear, the stamina and the physical strain of controlling their vehicles at such speeds and for such distances. Even if I don't consider them athletes, I acknowledge they have to be as strong and skillful at what they do to succeed as an athlete would in a respective sport. I hate Nascar, but I sure as fuck give props to them for being able to do what they do.
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prince_leo
04/02/18 8:36:07 PM
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i'd say it's a sport, and thus they are athletes
idc that much and would never argue it though
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CanuckCowboy
04/02/18 8:39:13 PM
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OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
ArchiePeck posted...
There actually are quite substantial physical demands on the human body driving at high speeds. Lots of them end up with neck problems, you need to really condition your body to deal with that!

Riding a horse has physical demands. Doesn't make jockeys athletes.


Wait wait wait hold on.

Is this guy serious?

Yes. I'm sorry, but I just can't consider sitting on a horse a sport and the people who do it athletes. Maybe get off the damn horse and try running those laps yourself


This is one of those times where the only possible explanation for your opinion is extreme ignorance.
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dummy420
04/02/18 8:39:54 PM
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No but they need to have a physical ability to maintain the speeds and demands. Their is a physical demand for sure but I wouldn't call it athletic.
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HotMaladorianAI
04/02/18 8:40:33 PM
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Yes
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PrettyBoyFloyd
04/02/18 8:41:05 PM
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Guess it's kind of like saying if a F-15 pilot is a athlete or not ?
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CanuckCowboy
04/02/18 8:41:14 PM
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dummy420 posted...
No but they need to have a physical ability to maintain the speeds and demands. Their is a physical demand for sure but I wouldn't call it athletic.


I mean I really don't gaf and I can't stand nascar but endurance agility and reaction time are definitely athletic qualities.
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chill02
04/02/18 8:41:34 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Guess it's kind of like saying if a F-15 pilot is a athlete or not ?


who are they competing with?
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nevershine
04/02/18 8:41:47 PM
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It's more of a technical sport.
Like they have to consider weather temperatures and how they effect the track, the wear on the tires, heat of the engine, drag wear, etc.
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CanuckCowboy
04/02/18 8:44:00 PM
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nevershine posted...
It's more of a technical sport.
Like they have to consider weather temperatures and how they effect the track, the wear on the tires, heat of the engine, drag wear, etc.


That's not a valid distinction imo.

Hockey players gotta consider ice quality and wear. Every athlete has to consider the likely actions and abilities of their opponents. There are highly technical aspects to the highest levels of any sport.

And again nascar does have intense physical demands.

Not sure why I'm even arguing anything I'm this topic but I feel like those are valid considerations.
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dummy420
04/02/18 8:46:32 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
dummy420 posted...
No but they need to have a physical ability to maintain the speeds and demands. Their is a physical demand for sure but I wouldn't call it athletic.


I mean I really don't gaf and I can't stand nascar but endurance agility and reaction time are definitely athletic qualities.


It's kind of on the edge in my book. You can't be a unhealthy person to do it for sure. But I put it along the lines of competition in a non athletic way. If you count it then it's the same as this.
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Guess it's kind of like saying if a F-15 pilot is a athlete or not ?

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nevershine
04/02/18 8:47:27 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
nevershine posted...
It's more of a technical sport.
Like they have to consider weather temperatures and how they effect the track, the wear on the tires, heat of the engine, drag wear, etc.


That's not a valid distinction imo.

Hockey players gotta consider ice quality and wear. Every athlete has to consider the likely actions and abilities of their opponents. There are highly technical aspects to the highest levels of any sport.

And again nascar does have intense physical demands.

Not sure why I'm even arguing anything I'm this topic but I feel like those are valid considerations.

I suppose you're right, but hockey players are way more physical when they play. I'd consider that a physical sport and still consider NASCAR more technical
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chill02
04/02/18 8:47:32 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Guess it's kind of like saying if a F-15 pilot is a athlete or not ?


who are they competing with?
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sobergermanguy
04/02/18 8:49:15 PM
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I guess I just disagree with the philosophy that if something has high physical demands, that doing that activity makes you an athlete. IMO if your flesh and bones are not doing most of the work, whatever you're doing is not a sport, and you are not an athlete.
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DirkDiggles
04/02/18 8:49:30 PM
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How to they shit or piss while being in that car for so long?
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OldSnakeLiveon8
04/02/18 9:20:24 PM
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sobergermanguy posted...
IMO if your flesh and bones are not doing most of the work, whatever you're doing is not a sport, and you are not an athlete.

Nailed it. Exactly how I feel
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Mistere Man
04/02/18 9:25:11 PM
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More so in the past when they didnt have power steering.
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Kelystic
04/02/18 9:27:35 PM
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driving around in circles takes skills
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gguirao
04/05/18 4:44:18 AM
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Yes. It's competitive and takes physical training and conditioning.
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Irony
04/05/18 4:46:22 AM
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About as much as I'd consider e-sports players athletes
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gamer167
04/05/18 5:10:33 AM
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Its a skillful sport, I wouldnt consider it an athletic sport.

Sure you have to condition your body, but thats just because you have to endure the suck of sitting in a hot car for two hours.
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DavidWong
04/05/18 5:11:53 AM
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eston posted...
I don't
It's just operating a machine for several hours. Racing is a sport, but drivers are not athletes IMO


I'd go the opposite. Drivers are athletes, but racing is a garbage sport
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The23rdMagus
04/05/18 5:16:40 AM
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gamer167 posted...
Its a skillful sport, I wouldnt consider it an athletic sport.

Sure you have to condition your body, but thats just because you have to endure the suck of sitting in a hot car for two hours.

While enduring 3-5Gs during turns. While turning a wheel to exert precise control over a car during those G-forces (power steering works differently on NASCAR cars, and they're heavier). While keeping focus for two to four hours.

It's a different type of athleticism.
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Kineth
04/05/18 5:35:37 AM
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It's a meaningless distinction that's trying to validate NASCAR by proxy. Sure, whatever, they're athletes, but, damn near nothing about being a skilled driver has to do with that.
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dib153
04/05/18 5:57:48 AM
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chill02 posted...
dummy420 posted...
Guess it's kind of like saying if a F-15 pilot is a athlete or not ?


who are they competing with?


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