Poll of the Day > I didn't realize that the War on Drugs was THIS BAD

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VioletZer0
03/27/18 2:13:57 AM
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I recently moved to Minnesota for my brother, and in the process I ended up moving into a black majority ghetto...

They have drug sniffing dogs all over the place. They just come and patrol the premises for people to arrest people for victimless offenses.

I knew the war on drugs was bad, but I didn't know it was THIS bad you know?

End of the war on drugs seriously.
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Lokarin
03/27/18 2:18:28 AM
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I'm for the actual war on drugs - but patrolling poor neighbourhoods is not the correct response.

Nuking/Agent Oranging Columbia is the correct response
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madadude
03/27/18 2:35:48 AM
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Not surprised, the way the war on drugs have disproportionally affected black communities even when drug usage rates have been almost the same between white and black Americans is really infuriating
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PaddysPub
03/27/18 2:57:38 AM
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i thought this was going to be about the band.

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TheCyborgNinja
03/27/18 3:03:52 AM
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If it's still a crime, it doesn't matter if it's "victimless" or not. Society agreed to a certain set of rules and everyone is expected to follow them or face the consequences. The war on drugs is a massive waste of time and money. Legalize and regulate everything or take a Stalin approach to it. Those are literally the only ways to prevent the issue.
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helIy
03/27/18 3:15:31 AM
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i believe this is 100% a lie.
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Cacciato
03/27/18 3:27:27 AM
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It's true. Instead of a war on poverty they start a war on drugs so the police can bother me.
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aHappySacka
03/27/18 4:04:47 AM
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It's not really a war on drugs anymore, it's just a transfer of people from ghettos to prisons in order to keep them populated so said prisons can keep getting government grants from fulfilling their prisoner population quotas.
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VioletZer0
03/27/18 4:36:13 AM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
If it's still a crime, it doesn't matter if it's "victimless" or not. Society agreed to a certain set of rules and everyone is expected to follow them or face the consequences. The war on drugs is a massive waste of time and money. Legalize and regulate everything or take a Stalin approach to it. Those are literally the only ways to prevent the issue.


We didn't agree to this shit. NOBODY agrees to this except for the people who profit from prison labor.

The law is unjust.
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Mead
03/27/18 5:04:36 AM
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aHappySacka posted...
It's not really a war on drugs anymore, it's just a transfer of people from ghettos to prisons in order to keep them populated so said prisons can keep getting government grants from fulfilling their prisoner population quotas.


Sets a terrible cycle of kids growing up without fathers and having no male role models in their household

Way too many youth from poor neighborhoods end up in prison or dead before they can even begin to figure things out
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madadude
03/27/18 5:22:14 AM
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Doesn't help that so much of the industries and jobs that were the reasons Black Americans moved to the inner-cities of St. Louis, Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Philadelphia, etc. have moved over seas or closed down due to other reasons, leaving so many people with no economic opportunities in the areas where they live and no money to afford moving elsewhere for job opportunities. If you live in a city where there is no longer any jobs for people who don't have more than a high school diploma besides working at McDonalds, its no wonder so many resort to dealing drugs and other crimes out of pure economic necessity.
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PentelPaint
03/27/18 5:38:00 AM
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Not a "victimless" crime. OD victims causes heartbreak to their friends and family. Present addicts often end up committing crimes to fund their habit. Then there's the fact that narcotics is a big income source for criminal and terrorist organisations, so turf wars over space to conduct business carries huge risk of collateral damage.
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VioletZer0
03/27/18 6:11:17 AM
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PentelPaint posted...
Not a "victimless" crime. OD victims causes heartbreak to their friends and family. Present addicts often end up committing crimes to fund their habit. Then there's the fact that narcotics is a big income source for criminal and terrorist organisations, so turf wars over space to conduct business carries huge risk of collateral damage.


"Heartbreak"

Michelle broke up with her boyfriend. Lock her up and throw away the key.

Are we really going to go on the "potential criminals" nonsense?

You know why it funds criminal organizations? Because it's illegal.
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TheCyborgNinja
03/27/18 6:23:45 AM
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VioletZer0 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
If it's still a crime, it doesn't matter if it's "victimless" or not. Society agreed to a certain set of rules and everyone is expected to follow them or face the consequences. The war on drugs is a massive waste of time and money. Legalize and regulate everything or take a Stalin approach to it. Those are literally the only ways to prevent the issue.


We didn't agree to this shit. NOBODY agrees to this except for the people who profit from prison labor.

The law is unjust.


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EvilMegas
03/27/18 7:37:21 AM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
If it's still a crime, it doesn't matter if it's "victimless" or not. Society agreed to a certain set of rules and everyone is expected to follow them or face the consequences. The war on drugs is a massive waste of time and money. Legalize and regulate everything or take a Stalin approach to it. Those are literally the only ways to prevent the issue.

Yeah because laws are always fair to everyone equally.
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Locke90
03/27/18 7:41:38 AM
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VioletZer0 posted...
I recently moved to Minnesota for my brother, and in the process I ended up moving into a black majority ghetto...

They have drug sniffing dogs all over the place. They just come and patrol the premises for people to arrest people for victimless offenses.

I knew the war on drugs was bad, but I didn't know it was THIS bad you know?

End of the war on drugs seriously.

just stop right there ive seen what drugs can do to people with my own family and friends my father wasnt just a user but he was also dealing the stuff it destroys families it destroys the users and society in general.
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EvilMegas
03/27/18 7:43:36 AM
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Locke90 posted...
VioletZer0 posted...
I recently moved to Minnesota for my brother, and in the process I ended up moving into a black majority ghetto...

They have drug sniffing dogs all over the place. They just come and patrol the premises for people to arrest people for victimless offenses.

I knew the war on drugs was bad, but I didn't know it was THIS bad you know?

End of the war on drugs seriously.

just stop right there ive seen what drugs can do to people with my own family and friends my father wasnt just a user but he was also dealing the stuff it destroys families it destroys the users and society in general.

Thats cool, now imagine how your anecdotal argument has nothing to do with this situation.
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Locke90
03/27/18 7:46:53 AM
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EvilMegas posted...
Locke90 posted...
VioletZer0 posted...
I recently moved to Minnesota for my brother, and in the process I ended up moving into a black majority ghetto...

They have drug sniffing dogs all over the place. They just come and patrol the premises for people to arrest people for victimless offenses.

I knew the war on drugs was bad, but I didn't know it was THIS bad you know?

End of the war on drugs seriously.

just stop right there ive seen what drugs can do to people with my own family and friends my father wasnt just a user but he was also dealing the stuff it destroys families it destroys the users and society in general.

Thats cool, now imagine how your anecdotal argument has nothing to do with this situation.

so because ive seen the effect of drugs personally and have witnessed my own father dealing and taking drugs my own personal anecdote has no bearing? gtfo it has the same gravity as the original posters anecdotes.
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EvilMegas
03/27/18 7:48:20 AM
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It has nothing to do with police unjustly patrolling our neighborhoods because we're "more likely" to have drugs. So no. It has shit to do with this.
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Lord_Shadow
03/27/18 9:33:32 AM
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While I do think weed should be legal legalization of drugs should be carefully done as opium brought ancient China to ruin
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shadowsword87
03/27/18 9:57:16 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
While I do think weed should be legal legalization of drugs should be carefully done as opium brought ancient China to ruin


Ooooh boy, you really need to learn more about the opium wars if you think that was the problem.
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Jen0125
03/27/18 10:08:33 AM
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helIy posted...
i believe this is 100% a lie.

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OhhhJa
03/27/18 10:45:53 AM
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This happened
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Smarkil
03/27/18 11:37:18 AM
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PentelPaint posted...
Not a "victimless" crime. OD victims causes heartbreak to their friends and family. Present addicts often end up committing crimes to fund their habit. Then there's the fact that narcotics is a big income source for criminal and terrorist organisations, so turf wars over space to conduct business carries huge risk of collateral damage.


So I guess we need to criminalize drugs because it might cause people to do other crimes? So we're on a kind of Minority Report system? Pun not intended.

Also

Jen0125 posted...
helIy posted...
i believe this is 100% a lie.

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SunWuKung420
03/27/18 11:43:11 AM
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The war on drugs created criminals where there weren't any, created an illegal market where there wasn't one, created crime that didn't exist, all to create a for-profit criminal justice system.
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Kigalas
03/27/18 11:48:58 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
The war on drugs created criminals where there weren't any, created an illegal market where there wasn't one, created crime that didn't exist, all to create a for-profit criminal justice system.

Thanks, Nixon.

https://www.vox.com/2016/3/22/11278760/war-on-drugs-racism-nixon
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BADoglick
03/27/18 12:43:59 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
If it's still a crime, it doesn't matter if it's "victimless" or not. Society agreed to a certain set of rules and everyone is expected to follow them or face the consequences. The war on drugs is a massive waste of time and money. Legalize and regulate everything or take a Stalin approach to it. Those are literally the only ways to prevent the issue.


Statists gonna state state state.

We the people never agreed to such a thing. Over 90% of people support medicinal cannabis, and over 60% support recreational legalization, yet they're still illegal, because pharmaceutical companies and police unions bribe our politicians in order to maintain the status quo so that they can perpetuate their profiteering.

Don't be such a tool
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VioletZer0
03/27/18 2:30:54 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
VioletZer0 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
If it's still a crime, it doesn't matter if it's "victimless" or not. Society agreed to a certain set of rules and everyone is expected to follow them or face the consequences. The war on drugs is a massive waste of time and money. Legalize and regulate everything or take a Stalin approach to it. Those are literally the only ways to prevent the issue.


We didn't agree to this shit. NOBODY agrees to this except for the people who profit from prison labor.

The law is unjust.



The War on Drugs can be directly linked with a spike in crime, including homicides. Prohibition had the same effect. There was a marked depression in homicides and prison population in between Prohonition and the War on Drugs. It is intended to keep people in prison for the sake of slave labor...

But yeah call the waaaambulance right? Because people don't want to get murdered or unjustly go to prison?
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Lokarin
03/27/18 5:33:28 PM
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It certainly is anti-consumer in your capitalist economy.
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Mauser
03/27/18 9:48:30 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
If it's still a crime, it doesn't matter if it's "victimless" or not. Society agreed to a certain set of rules and everyone is expected to follow them or face the consequences. The war on drugs is a massive waste of time and money. Legalize and regulate everything or take a Stalin approach to it. Those are literally the only ways to prevent the issue.


Lol society agreed to gassing jews. Enslaving people. Banning interracial marriage.

Statist scum are the worst.
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Lil69Leo
03/27/18 10:02:39 PM
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VioletZer0 posted...
PentelPaint posted...
Not a "victimless" crime. OD victims causes heartbreak to their friends and family. Present addicts often end up committing crimes to fund their habit. Then there's the fact that narcotics is a big income source for criminal and terrorist organisations, so turf wars over space to conduct business carries huge risk of collateral damage.


"Heartbreak"

Michelle broke up with her boyfriend. Lock her up and throw away the key.

Are we really going to go on the "potential criminals" nonsense?

You know why it funds criminal organizations? Because it's illegal.


A majority are weed possession which is completely victim less. No one dies from weed.
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Syntheticon
03/28/18 2:19:47 AM
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VioletZer0 posted...
End of the war on drugs seriously.
You know it's a problem when there's a war and all the high people are winning...
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old_school227
03/31/18 5:49:54 AM
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Locke90 posted...
VioletZer0 posted...
I recently moved to Minnesota for my brother, and in the process I ended up moving into a black majority ghetto...

They have drug sniffing dogs all over the place. They just come and patrol the premises for people to arrest people for victimless offenses.

I knew the war on drugs was bad, but I didn't know it was THIS bad you know?

End of the war on drugs seriously.

just stop right there ive seen what drugs can do to people with my own family and friends my father wasnt just a user but he was also dealing the stuff it destroys families it destroys the users and society in general.

Wouldn't you rather society help people on drugs with things like rehab rather than throwing them in jail? Drugs being illegal diddn't stop the person(s) you saw destroyed.
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