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Kineth
03/27/18 12:34:17 PM
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Using the term "correct" is why it's a questionable stance.

And funny thing. Polydactyly (having extra digits) is a dominant gene.

But you know, we're (well, not me, but some of y'all are) talking about nature like it has a concern for human perception of it.
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Kineth
03/27/18 12:36:46 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
You think a guy named "KillCommunism" will give you a reasonable argument?


Maybe not, but there's no reason to let ignorance, no matter where it springs from, go unchallenged.
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KillCommunism
03/27/18 12:40:09 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Here is the specific section of the post I quoted that started this discussion about natural with you:

KillCommunism posted...
intended by nature for a man to want a woman.


This means that you are saying that gay people are unnatural, since to you the only thing 'intended by nature' is for a man to want a woman.

Furthermore, you suggest that same thing again here:

KillCommunism posted...
That's some glitch that occurs in nature. Sure you can say everything is natural. A person with 11 fingers instead of 10 has them naturally, but 11 fingers isn't supposed to occur.

Yes, we are supposed to multiply. That is the only way species survive, is by multiplying. You can't multiply by fucking the same sex, so logically, it can't be something nature would intend, it would have to be a glitch, like my 11 fingered example. Technically, having 11 fingers is natural by the mere fact that it occurred, but it isn't necessarily supposed to happen. Likewise, having a sexual attraction exclusively to males is natural, but it's not necessarily supposed to happen.
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Kineth
03/27/18 12:40:56 PM
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KillCommunism posted...
Yes, we are supposed to multiply.


This is such a bullshit premise. This argument says that sterile people are unnatural.
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KillCommunism
03/27/18 12:43:15 PM
#158:


Kineth posted...
KillCommunism posted...
Yes, we are supposed to multiply.


This is such a bullshit premise. This argument says that sterile people are unnatural.

No it doesn't... Jesus fucking christ you people need to learn how to read.
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DragonGirlYuki
03/27/18 12:44:20 PM
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Didn't read this topic, but is it right to assume it turned into a dumpster fire?
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InstaReturns
03/27/18 12:44:28 PM
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I think there is something wrong with/dont care about most people in general, i don't judge
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thrashmetal14
03/27/18 12:45:45 PM
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I voted "yes" but meant to click the "no" button. Sorry guys, I fucked it all up.
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Balrog0
03/27/18 12:48:30 PM
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KillCommunism posted...
Kineth posted...
KillCommunism posted...
Yes, we are supposed to multiply.


This is such a bullshit premise. This argument says that sterile people are unnatural.

No it doesn't... Jesus fucking christ you people need to learn how to read.


what is the difference between something natural and something being the way 'nature intended'?

I understand you as elaborating that something can be natural and bad. You seem to be implying it is natural and bad when it is natural, but not the way nature intended

Only your argument for why it isn't what nature intended is kind of bad. Nature doesn't care about us as individuals, just our genetic material, so if my gay brother can help our clan gather resources so that I can care for my kid, he's helping his gene pool succeed which is a perfectly viable, natural, strategy
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hyperpsycho
03/27/18 12:53:13 PM
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BarneyBosco posted...
I just can't stand the outlandish, "I'm so outrageous." stereotypical caricature they get into the role of. Its annoying as fuck, old and nothing more than a bandwagon mentality.

Kind of surprised no one's called this out.
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thecoolgu
03/27/18 12:57:34 PM
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I don't think homosexuality is natural, but there's nothing wrong with it.
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booboy
03/27/18 12:59:02 PM
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Nah, gay guys are cool to hang out with.
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thecoolgu
03/27/18 1:05:57 PM
#171:


Asherlee10 posted...
thecoolgu posted...
I don't think homosexuality is natural, but there's nothing wrong with it.


Here we go again...

What is with this?

What I mean by "not natural" is I believe that people are born straight because they are meant to reproduce, but their personality, circumstances and environment growing up may affect their sexual orientation. That's all I'm saying.
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donkeyjack
03/27/18 1:06:25 PM
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I don't have a problem with it but it's NOT the norm. I just don't like it when them or their supporters feel that people should accept their lifestyles.
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Question86
03/27/18 1:09:56 PM
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Asherlee kicking major ass and putting less intelligent folks in their place as usual.

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MC_BatCommander
03/27/18 1:16:02 PM
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I don't consider homosexuality as something wrong at all, just different. Humans are very complex creatures, who am I to say what's wrong and what's right?
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Wetterdew
03/27/18 1:17:19 PM
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So one out of three straight CEmen thinks there's something wrong with gay people--

I thought you guys weren't that dumb, but reading some of the dialog in this thread I guess I should have expected this result
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donkeyjack
03/27/18 1:21:18 PM
#179:


Asherlee10 posted...
donkeyjack posted...
I just don't like it when them or their supporters feel that people should accept their lifestyles.


"Lifestyles." As if it is some choice that people wake up one day and say,"you know, I feel like being gay and people better accept it."


No, Ash, I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was just because people don't want to associate themselves with gays or what not doesn't make them a bad person. I don't like how folks claim people who don't have gay friends are like bigoted. People have their ways. I have tons of Island friends plus I'm Caribbean myself and most of them don't like gay people but they you'll have people say they are bigoted and wrong for that. I disagree with that. I, on the other hand, don't have problem with anyone unless they are just generally nasty. I tell my friends that I can be great friends with a gay person and it doesn't matter about your sexuality but they do not want to hear it. I don't shame them for that but most LBGTQ supporter would.
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Zodd3224
03/27/18 1:27:51 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Question86 posted...
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Thank you. I don't think everyone that has a misguided opinion about homosexuality is necessarily dumb. Just misinformed and misguided.

Some of these posts are really disheartening though.


"I dont hate gays, just keep that gay shit away from me!" is the typical homophobic response I am seeing a lot of here.

And the "but its not natural" arguement, which is probably the silliest.
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MC_BatCommander
03/27/18 1:28:36 PM
#181:


donkeyjack posted...
No, Ash, I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was just because people don't want to associate themselves with gays or what not doesn't make them a bad person. I don't like how folks claim people who don't have gay friends are like bigoted.


If someone actively doesn't want to associate with gay people that's like the epitome of bigotry tho.
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donkeyjack
03/27/18 1:30:16 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
donkeyjack posted...
No, Ash, I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was just because people don't want to associate themselves with gays or what not doesn't make them a bad person. I don't like how folks claim people who don't have gay friends are like bigoted.


If someone actively doesn't want to associate with gay people that's like the epitome of bigotry tho.


No, you just sound like a SJW, sir. We all have preference on who we want to be around. If someone doesn't want to be around a broke person they are not being a bigot.
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MC_BatCommander
03/27/18 1:31:55 PM
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donkeyjack posted...
No, you just sound like a SJW, sir. We all have preference on who we want to be around. If someone doesn't want to be around a broke person they are not being a bigot.


I'm not an SJW, far from it. I just call it like I see it. Not wanting to associate with someone simply because they are gay and no other reason at all is bigotry. It's plain and simple.
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Zodd3224
03/27/18 1:34:09 PM
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donkeyjack posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
donkeyjack posted...
No, Ash, I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was just because people don't want to associate themselves with gays or what not doesn't make them a bad person. I don't like how folks claim people who don't have gay friends are like bigoted.


If someone actively doesn't want to associate with gay people that's like the epitome of bigotry tho.


No, you just sound like a SJW, sir. We all have preference on who we want to be around. If someone doesn't want to be around a broke person they are not being a bigot.


LoL, wow...
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robellr13
03/27/18 1:35:15 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
robellr13 posted...
Well I live in Houston Texas. A city that is known to be diverse. Ive encountered gay people in my life and they know off bat that Im not gay by the impression I give. Trust me , gay people know when someone is gay or not. Ive been hit on once and that was online. Never in person , because well. They know Im not gay. Ive gotten compliments on my hair but thats about it. No one hits on me. If they do, Ill politely tell them to chill. If they continue, they going to have catch this fade lol


"The impression you give." You are fooling yourself if you don't think gay people come in all shapes and sizes. You are not special.

Again 'gaydar' is not some infallible measuring device. In fact, it fails more often than not for most people. And AGAIN, there is a difference between someone flirting with you and someone harassing you. Why is this hard to distinguish for you?

robellr13 posted...
Flirting with someone is not harassment. Flirting with someone THAT YOU KNOW IS NOT INTERESTED is harassment. Ive seen my girlfriends getting harassed by guys , so I got zero tolerance for that shit. This is something i wont argue.

And you seem to think that someone who doesn't know you and just met you in a bar will somehow automatically know you are not interested without ever having an interaction with you. It's clear you think flirting, when it comes from a gay man, is harassment.

robellr13 posted...
And Im not trying to say anything like that lmao what the fuck is wrong with you? You seriously dont know how to debate topics man. I been stop taking you serious after the cultural appropriation topic.


You don't have to take me serious, that's up to you. But if you are going to go around spouting extremist views, don't expect people to not challenge your beliefs. You're outlandish and draw attention to yourself.


Soooo what do you guys call it when someone continues to flirt with you after telling them youre not interested. Help me guys. I cant coin the term.
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robellr13
03/27/18 1:35:36 PM
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Question86 posted...
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You rock, woman.


Oh my goodness lmao
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DragonGirlYuki
03/27/18 1:37:36 PM
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I don't want to associate with smokers. I guess my nose is a bigot.
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robellr13
03/27/18 1:39:04 PM
#189:


Yall have a problem with a straight guy not wanting to be hitting on by a guy?

That just doesnt make sense. Its cool to get compliments but if someone aint rocking with it, leave them alone. There are some gay people who are uncomfortable with straights hitting on them.

Call me a bigot but if someone touches me then hes going to have to catch this face lol I dont like being touched by women without consent either. So take that as it is.
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chaosinuyasha
03/27/18 1:39:42 PM
#190:


PhazonReborn posted...
I don't personally understand why bottoms want to take a penis up their butt

That cannot be enjoyable. I've had a colonoscopy before and it was the worst feeling in the world.

That's why ya use lube hun. Makes it easier. Also a person is different from a machine/tool, as they listen adn go slower/harder as you desire. Bottom doesn't mean sisy doll. I'm vers myself and I HATE when I say I can bottom and some tops are all "macho, you're my toy/sex sleeve" and such.... *coughs* Anyway back on topic....

I'm bi myself and my own father while not outright bashing it, clearly has issues with the prospect I may one day date another guy, I could find the girliest crossdresser or emo twink(the main types I like) I could find but the second he finds out its another guy its all "no sleeping here, I don't wanna hear what it is you two do" yet if I had a girl with me I'm sure he'd be up early the next morning asking "sooo how was it?" so there are people who would agree yes to your poll. I however am not one such person
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donkeyjack
03/27/18 1:40:28 PM
#191:


MC_BatCommander posted...
donkeyjack posted...
No, you just sound like a SJW, sir. We all have preference on who we want to be around. If someone doesn't want to be around a broke person they are not being a bigot.


I'm not an SJW, far from it. I just call it like I see it. Not wanting to associate with someone simply because they are gay and no other reason at all is bigotry. It's plain and simple.


We have a thing called culture. My parents are Haitian immigrants they don't tolerate none of that stuff even when I tried to sit down and talk to them about it. They are not infringing on anyone's right, automomy or taking money about out of the pockets of gays. They just don't like them and it is fine. They are bigoted it is ingrained from their culture.
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Funkydog
03/27/18 1:40:49 PM
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Well, Coriander, without actually bothering to read this topic. Some people almost certainly do think something is wrong, or at least uncomfortable about us. Or treat us with a certain level of hypocrisy. They are "okay with gays" as long as we don't mention it.

Which, sure. Not everyone wants sexuality shoved in their face. But they can often be completely fine with talking about "straight things" such as a woman they want to fuck, but a guy? Oh no! That's pushing it in their face.

Obviously, some gays do flaunt it too much, but so do straight people. And they are just often dicks no matter their orientation.
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MC_BatCommander
03/27/18 1:43:57 PM
#193:


donkeyjack posted...
We have a thing called culture.


Appeal to tradition ain't gonna work, just because something's always been that way doesn't mean it is okay. Bigotry is bigotry man.
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ZannoL
03/27/18 1:45:17 PM
#194:


MC_BatCommander posted...
donkeyjack posted...
We have a thing called culture.


Appeal to tradition ain't gonna work, just because something's always been that way doesn't mean it is okay. Bigotry is bigotry man.
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donkeyjack
03/27/18 1:45:42 PM
#195:


MC_BatCommander posted...
donkeyjack posted...
We have a thing called culture.


Appeal to tradition ain't gonna work, just because something's always been that way doesn't mean it is okay. Bigotry is bigotry man.


So if a christian person won't be friends with me because I am an atheist. Is that bigotry?
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Gafemage
03/27/18 1:45:55 PM
#196:


ZannoL posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
donkeyjack posted...
We have a thing called culture.


Appeal to tradition ain't gonna work, just because something's always been that way doesn't mean it is okay. Bigotry is bigotry man.

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Gafemage
03/27/18 1:46:06 PM
#197:


donkeyjack posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
donkeyjack posted...
We have a thing called culture.


Appeal to tradition ain't gonna work, just because something's always been that way doesn't mean it is okay. Bigotry is bigotry man.


So if a christian person won't be friends with me because I am an atheist. Is that bigotry?

Yes
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Funkydog
03/27/18 1:46:49 PM
#198:


donkeyjack posted...
So if a christian person won't be friends with me because I am an atheist. Is that bigotry?

It's stupid and if they think less of you, I'd be inclined to say it was, yes.

I've had plenty of religious friends, and they've been fine with my own lack of faith because they were generally good people.
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Zodd3224
03/27/18 1:47:37 PM
#199:


DragonGirlYuki posted...
I don't want to associate with smokers. I guess my nose is a bigot.


There is a difference between not wanting to be around cigarette smoke, and refusing to be around someone period simply because they are a smoker regardless of the smoke being a factor. The latter is bigotry.

His comment about not wanting to be around broke people. So, he doesnt want to be aeound someone strictly because they are poor? That is bigotry.
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Zodd3224
03/27/18 1:47:53 PM
#200:


Gafemage posted...
donkeyjack posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
donkeyjack posted...
We have a thing called culture.


Appeal to tradition ain't gonna work, just because something's always been that way doesn't mean it is okay. Bigotry is bigotry man.


So if a christian person won't be friends with me because I am an atheist. Is that bigotry?

Yes

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