Current Events > Straight people: Do you think there is something wrong with gay people?

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donkeyjack posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

donkeyjack posted...

We have a thing called culture.

Appeal to tradition ain't gonna work, just because something's always been that way doesn't mean it is okay. Bigotry is bigotry man.

So if a christian person won't be friends with me because I am an atheist. Is that bigotry?

Bigotry as a concept is refusing to accept any ideas that stray outside of your own view, so yes that would fall well within the definition.
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Well, i believe being gay is somekind of anomaly in genes or something, but its not sickness. They just were born the way they are, just like straight people were born the way they are. I don't mind someone being gay at all, and i accept them.
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Pretty much all of the (male) gay people I know have told me I'm good looking, so there's definitely something wrong with their tastes in men

nope, there's nothing wrong with gay people. Shame on you if you think otherwise
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Gafemage posted...

donkeyjack posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

donkeyjack posted...

We have a thing called culture.

Appeal to tradition ain't gonna work, just because something's always been that way doesn't mean it is okay. Bigotry is bigotry man.

So if a christian person won't be friends with me because I am an atheist. Is that bigotry?

Yes

Yea, I'm done with you people. You guys live in imaginary world that people can't have preferences and shit.

Funkydog posted...

donkeyjack posted...

So if a christian person won't be friends with me because I am an atheist. Is that bigotry?

It's stupid and if they think less of you, I'd be inclined to say it was, yes.

I've had plenty of religious friends, and they've been fine with my own lack of faith because they were generally good people.

I'm done.
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DragonGirlYuki posted...

I don't want to associate with smokers. I guess my nose is a bigot.

False equivalence of the day, jfc.
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donkeyjack posted...

Gafemage posted...

donkeyjack posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

donkeyjack posted...

We have a thing called culture.

Appeal to tradition ain't gonna work, just because something's always been that way doesn't mean it is okay. Bigotry is bigotry man.

So if a christian person won't be friends with me because I am an atheist. Is that bigotry?

Yes

Yea, I'm done with you people. You guys live in imaginary world that people can't have preferences and shit.

Funkydog posted...

donkeyjack posted...

So if a christian person won't be friends with me because I am an atheist. Is that bigotry?

It's stupid and if they think less of you, I'd be inclined to say it was, yes.

I've had plenty of religious friends, and they've been fine with my own lack of faith because they were generally good people.

I'm done.

That's right, run away and hide within your own sheltered "traditional" views.
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donkeyjack posted...

Yea, I'm done with you people. You guys live in imaginary world that people can't have preferences and shit.

If that is what you want to take away from it, then feel free I guess.
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You guys are the same people who think if someone doesn't find a particular race attractive they are racist. Of course that's what I take from it. You guys are the epitome of brow beating. Shit, I got suspended just for saying that.
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donkeyjack posted...

You guys are the same people who think if someone doesn't find a particular race attractive they are racist. Of course that's what I take from it. You guys are the epitome of brow beating. Shit, I got suspended just for saying that.

Oh you're back, so much for being done.
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donkeyjack posted...

You guys are the same people who think if someone doesn't find a particular race attractive they are racist. Of course that's what I take from it. You guys are the epitome of brow beating. Shit, I got suspended just for saying that.

You dont get to choose who you are physically attracted to. Its hard to fathom not being attracted to a single member of a particular race, but I suppose its possible. That isnt bigotry.

But it is a choice to say "I'm not going to associate with anyone of that race, because of their race." That is bigotry.

Why is this so difficult to understand? Saying "preference" doesnt change anything, lol.
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Asherlee10 posted...

robellr13 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

robellr13 posted...

Well I live in Houston Texas. A city that is known to be diverse. Ive encountered gay people in my life and they know off bat that Im not gay by the impression I give. Trust me , gay people know when someone is gay or not. Ive been hit on once and that was online. Never in person , because well. They know Im not gay. Ive gotten compliments on my hair but thats about it. No one hits on me. If they do, Ill politely tell them to chill. If they continue, they going to have catch this fade lol

"The impression you give." You are fooling yourself if you don't think gay people come in all shapes and sizes. You are not special.

Again 'gaydar' is not some infallible measuring device. In fact, it fails more often than not for most people. And AGAIN, there is a difference between someone flirting with you and someone harassing you. Why is this hard to distinguish for you?

robellr13 posted...

Flirting with someone is not harassment. Flirting with someone THAT YOU KNOW IS NOT INTERESTED is harassment. Ive seen my girlfriends getting harassed by guys , so I got zero tolerance for that shit. This is something i wont argue.

And you seem to think that someone who doesn't know you and just met you in a bar will somehow automatically know you are not interested without ever having an interaction with you. It's clear you think flirting, when it comes from a gay man, is harassment.

robellr13 posted...

And Im not trying to say anything like that lmao what the fuck is wrong with you? You seriously dont know how to debate topics man. I been stop taking you serious after the cultural appropriation topic.

You don't have to take me serious, that's up to you. But if you are going to go around spouting extremist views, don't expect people to not challenge your beliefs. You're outlandish and draw attention to yourself.

Soooo what do you guys call it when someone continues to flirt with you after telling them youre not interested. Help me guys. I cant coin the term.

Now you are changing your narrative that all the sudden it's people harassing you. When this started with you, it was just people hitting on you. But you got called out and now you are trying to backtrack.

Precisely. But Im the one he says shouldnt be taken seriously. Mr. Gaydar over here... I also recall him going off about how cultural appropriation is a serious issue, lmao. He shouldnt be taken seriously.
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robellr13 posted...

Wait some of yall are mad that straight people are uncomfortable if a gay guy hits on them?

Yeah I would be mad uncomfortable. I support them having equal rights but if you know Im straight, stay the fuck away from me. Thats sexual harassment.

This is my original post. Jesus Christ. You guys cant read. Or you just dont want to read it.
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Zodd3224 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

robellr13 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

robellr13 posted...

Well I live in Houston Texas. A city that is known to be diverse. Ive encountered gay people in my life and they know off bat that Im not gay by the impression I give. Trust me , gay people know when someone is gay or not. Ive been hit on once and that was online. Never in person , because well. They know Im not gay. Ive gotten compliments on my hair but thats about it. No one hits on me. If they do, Ill politely tell them to chill. If they continue, they going to have catch this fade lol

"The impression you give." You are fooling yourself if you don't think gay people come in all shapes and sizes. You are not special.

Again 'gaydar' is not some infallible measuring device. In fact, it fails more often than not for most people. And AGAIN, there is a difference between someone flirting with you and someone harassing you. Why is this hard to distinguish for you?

robellr13 posted...

Flirting with someone is not harassment. Flirting with someone THAT YOU KNOW IS NOT INTERESTED is harassment. Ive seen my girlfriends getting harassed by guys , so I got zero tolerance for that shit. This is something i wont argue.

And you seem to think that someone who doesn't know you and just met you in a bar will somehow automatically know you are not interested without ever having an interaction with you. It's clear you think flirting, when it comes from a gay man, is harassment.

robellr13 posted...

And Im not trying to say anything like that lmao what the fuck is wrong with you? You seriously dont know how to debate topics man. I been stop taking you serious after the cultural appropriation topic.

You don't have to take me serious, that's up to you. But if you are going to go around spouting extremist views, don't expect people to not challenge your beliefs. You're outlandish and draw attention to yourself.

Soooo what do you guys call it when someone continues to flirt with you after telling them youre not interested. Help me guys. I cant coin the term.

Now you are changing your narrative that all the sudden it's people harassing you. When this started with you, it was just people hitting on you. But you got called out and now you are trying to backtrack.

Precisely. But Im the one he says shouldnt be taken seriously. Mr. Gaydar over here... I also recall him going off about how cultural appropriation is a serious issue, lmao. He shouldnt be taken seriously.

Oh no. Dont talk about something you dont know bro . Im sure its hard for you to relate since there is no ethnic cultural background of yours to steal and make profit from. Hot dogs and beer on July 4th? Murcia!

Ive seen it all bro. A white guy on gamefaqs is telling me cultural appropriation is not a serious issue
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Asherlee10 posted...

robellr13 posted...

robellr13 posted...

Wait some of yall are mad that straight people are uncomfortable if a gay guy hits on them?

Yeah I would be mad uncomfortable. I support them having equal rights but if you know Im straight, stay the fuck away from me. Thats sexual harassment.

This is my original post. Jesus Christ. You guys cant read. Or you just dont want to read it.

And your answer to the question: "How do you think gay people will know your sexuality without interacting with you first?"

Was...

robellr13 posted...

Gaydar is an actual thing. Im sure most gay people can sense if youre gay or not.

For the final time... someone who comes up to you and flirts with you isn't going to know your sexuality. That is wildly different than someone who is harassing you, which is not what was said when you started posting in this topic. It wasn't until you were called out that all of the sudden you were talking about people who harass you.

Then I clarified my statement by saying Ill politely tell them if they dont know. It wasnt all of the sudden talking about people who harass me. Im saying Ive seen it with women and I wouldnt like it with men either.

But like I said. Theres a reason no gay guy has a made on a move on me. It must be such a coincidence that you know, like idk, maybe they have a sense of it? Nah of course not. Cant be.

Anyways. I think theres a difference between flirting and hitting on someone. I consider flirting like compliments or subtle gestures like giving me free water at torchys tacos without asking for it. Cashier was hella flamboyant. Hitting on me though? I never let it take that far. That requires me to give them a sign that they are interested. So nah. I never been around a drunk gay dude either, so thats probably another reason.
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Robellr13, how is someone supposed to know if they are gay or not?
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CiIantro posted...

NOTE TO MODS: I am gay and this topic is in response to an incidence of homophobia I encountered today. Essentially someone saying they hate gay people even though they act nice to their faces. I want to see what an anonymous poll here reveals. Is this a common attitude?

Hating gays and thinking that there's something wrong with them are two largely separate matters. Your poll should be different.
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robellr13 posted...

But like I said. Theres a reason no gay guy has a made on a move on me. It must be such a coincidence that you know, like idk, maybe they have a sense of it? Nah of course not. Cant be.

Where can I get a gaydar then, as mine is clearly severely malfunctioning given the number of time's I've hit on straight girls.
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Asherlee10 posted...

donkeyjack posted...

Robellr13, how is someone supposed to know if they are gay or not?

According to him, gay people all have perfect gaydars so gay people should not ever be flirting with straight people.

Don't forget that he excudes hetrosexuality and manliness!
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donkeyjack posted...

Robellr13, how is someone supposed to know if they are gay or not?

Signs. Its all about signs when you talk or by the gestures you make.

Asherlee10 posted...

robellr13 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

robellr13 posted...

robellr13 posted...

Wait some of yall are mad that straight people are uncomfortable if a gay guy hits on them?

Yeah I would be mad uncomfortable. I support them having equal rights but if you know Im straight, stay the fuck away from me. Thats sexual harassment.

This is my original post. Jesus Christ. You guys cant read. Or you just dont want to read it.

And your answer to the question: "How do you think gay people will know your sexuality without interacting with you first?"

Was...

robellr13 posted...

Gaydar is an actual thing. Im sure most gay people can sense if youre gay or not.

For the final time... someone who comes up to you and flirts with you isn't going to know your sexuality. That is wildly different than someone who is harassing you, which is not what was said when you started posting in this topic. It wasn't until you were called out that all of the sudden you were talking about people who harass you.

Then I clarified my statement by saying Ill politely tell them if they dont know. It wasnt all of the sudden talking about people who harass me. Im saying Ive seen it with women and I wouldnt like it with men either.

But like I said. Theres a reason no gay guy has a made on a move on me. It must be such a coincidence that you know, like idk, maybe they have a sense of it? Nah of course not. Cant be.

Anyways. I think theres a difference between flirting and hitting on someone. I consider flirting like compliments or subtle gestures like giving me free water at torchys tacos without asking for it. Cashier was hella flamboyant. Hitting on me though? I never let it take that far. That requires me to give them a sign that they are interested. So nah. I never been around a drunk gay dude either, so thats probably another reason.

So...which is it? Are there all these gay people 'harassing' you? Or are no gay people hitting on you because you apparently ooze heterosexuality?

And the entire reason why you were challenged about your statements is because your original premise was quite terrible and then you changed your narrative once you were challenged. I'm hoping that you understand that flirting != sexual harassment in most cases. Some "hella flamboyant" cashier at Torchy's doesn't have a perfect gaydar. He flirts with people he finds attractive, as almost all humans do.

God fuckin damn. Its like Im talking to a wall. If I hit on a lesbian and she tells me shes gay but I continue to hit on her anyways ? Thats harassment.

And he probably did. He also probably knew that I knew he was gay and that I wasnt interested by not giving him the same energy. Humans arent dumb. They know how to pick up signs.
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Asherlee10 posted...

donkeyjack posted...

Robellr13, how is someone supposed to know if they are gay or not?

According to him, gay people all have perfect gaydars so gay people should not ever be flirting with straight people.

That is ridiculous. Gay people are still people at the end of the day. They don't know if the person of interest is gay or not. They just go for it. I know more guys are straight but they are gay dudes out there too. Idk.
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robellr13 posted...

God fuckin damn. Its like Im talking to a wall. If I hit on a lesbian and she tells me shes gay but I continue to hit on her anyways ? Thats harassment.

If you directly tell them, or tell them to stop, then sure.

But not everyone picks up on these "signs" you claim to give off unless you actually directly state it. Or your signs are much less obvious than you might think.
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Funkydog posted...

robellr13 posted...

But like I said. Theres a reason no gay guy has a made on a move on me. It must be such a coincidence that you know, like idk, maybe they have a sense of it? Nah of course not. Cant be.

Where can I get a gaydar then, as mine is clearly severely malfunctioning given the number of time's I've hit on straight girls.

I mean. For one. Human interaction. I know its hard for most of yall. But by this old app called talking and picking up signs, it should help you.
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I'm so gay friendly that one of my old friends was spying on me to see if I was doing gay stuff with my gay friend.

It was like, so what if we had a lot in common, I had to be letting the guy do stuff to me -_-...

I'm sure it might be slightly better now, that happened a while back.
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robellr13 posted...

I mean. For one. Human interaction. I know its hard for most of yall. But by this old app called talking and picking up signs, it should help you.

Most people are just bad at picking up signs in romantic interactions regardless of sexuality. I'm not sure why you are expecting gay people do be any better.
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Funkydog posted...

robellr13 posted...

God fuckin damn. Its like Im talking to a wall. If I hit on a lesbian and she tells me shes gay but I continue to hit on her anyways ? Thats harassment.

If you directly tell them, or tell them to stop, then sure.

But not everyone picks up on these "signs" you claim to give off unless you actually directly state it. Or your signs are much less obvious than you might think.

Exactly.

Let me lay it out for you.

You come on to me aggressively, Ill tell you off aggressively.

You come on to me subtly, then Ill dismiss it subtly.

I will match the same energy you give me. The guys who hit on you subtly will also know how to pick up subtle signs.
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That 30% is not surprising at all.
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robellr13 posted...

I will match the same energy you give me. The guys who hit on you subtly will also know how to pick up subtle signs.

Part of me wants to think you are just this naively hopeful about people's ability to read others signs.
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Not at all. There is homosexuality in the animal kingdom, and even if there wasn't I still don't think there's anything wrong with gay people.
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Funkydog posted...

robellr13 posted...

I will match the same energy you give me. The guys who hit on you subtly will also know how to pick up subtle signs.

Part of me wants to think you are just this naively hopeful about people's ability to read others signs.

Well for one. Im a chill dude who is mostly high all the time in public. So I wouldnt kill a mood in a bar with my friends by telling a guy straight up no, if he didnt ask me straight up. You got to be realistic in these situations. Generally these people at the bars have social skills, so they wont have this problem.
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A black guy on GFAQs telling another black guy that he's not black. Thats messed up, bro.
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Zodd3224 posted...

A black guy on GFAQs telling another black guy that he's not black. Thats messed up, bro.

Makes it more embarrassing on your part actually.
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robellr13 posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

A black guy on GFAQs telling another black guy that he's not black. Thats messed up, bro.

Makes it more embarrassing on your part actually.

LoL. Well color me embarassed, Mr Gaydar.
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Zodd3224 posted...

robellr13 posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

A black guy on GFAQs telling another black guy that he's not black. Thats messed up, bro.

Makes it more embarrassing on your part actually.

LoL. Well color me embarassed, Mr Gaydar.

I would love to call you something right now but I would get warned again lol keep dancing for them though.
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robellr13 posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

robellr13 posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

A black guy on GFAQs telling another black guy that he's not black. Thats messed up, bro.

Makes it more embarrassing on your part actually.

LoL. Well color me embarassed, Mr Gaydar.

I would love to call you something right now but I would get warned again lol keep dancing for them though.

Lmao, I cannot front. Your rebuttal was funny here
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Gay people?? Nah. Its the way some people are
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This is such a stupid topic.
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So it's painfully clear Robeller hasn't actually been around many homosexuals like he claimed.

He also fits that whole "insecurity" portion I made in my first few posts.

Glad we got a real example of them in this topic.
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I don't know that there is anything wrong per se, but homosexuality doesn't make much sense to me on the evolutionary path. But neither does love, so clearly I don't know anything. Does anyone?
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Zodd3224 posted...

robellr13 posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

A black guy on GFAQs telling another black guy that he's not black. Thats messed up, bro.

Makes it more embarrassing on your part actually.

LoL. Well color me embarassed, Mr Gaydar.

Aren't you mulatto? Then you're not black and it's insulting to your white side.
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@Silver_Bearings posted...

I don't know that there is anything wrong per se, but homosexuality doesn't make much sense to me on the evolutionary path. But neither does love, so clearly I don't know anything. Does anyone?

Kin selection. If someone is born gay, it frees up the number of adults in the tribe to raise children and is beneficial to the species as a whole.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_selection

Zeeak4444 posted...

So it's painfully clear Robeller hasn't actually been around many homosexuals like he claimed.

He also fits that whole "insecurity" portion I made in my first few posts.

Glad we got a real example of them in this topic.

Lmao what the fuck am I insecure about ? What am I saying can be directed towards a woman Im not interested either.
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