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antfair 03/16/18 11:08:32 AM #1:	https://www.vox.com/2018/3/16/17124288/mattis-theranos-board-trump Secretary of Defense James Mattis is implicated in one of the largest business scandals of the past decades, described by the Securities and Exchange Commission as an elaborate, years-long fraud through which Theranos, led by CEO Elizabeth Holmes and president Ramesh Sunny Balwani, exaggerated or made false statements about the companys technology, business, and financial performance. Basically, their biotech startup was founded on the promise of faster, cheaper, painless blood tests. But their technology was fake. Mattis not only served on Theranoss board during some of the years it was perpetrating the fraud after he retired from US military service, but he earlier served as a key advocate of putting the companys technology (technology that was, to be clear, fake) to use inside the military while he was still serving as a general. Holmes is settling the case, paying a $500,000 fee and accepting various other penalties, while Balwani is fighting it out in court. Nobody on the board is being directly charged with doing anything. But accepting six-figure checks to serve as a frontman for a con operation is the kind of thing that would normally count as a liability in American politics. But nobody wants to talk about it. Not just Trump and his co-partisans in Congress; the Democratic Party opposition is also inclined to give Mattis a pass. Everyone in Washington is more or less convinced that his presence in the Pentagon is the only thing standing between us and possible nuclear Armageddon. ... This scheme worked because Theranos was deeply tied in with the American political, business, and media establishment counting former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and George Shultz as board members, and maintaining sufficient clout that Hillary Clintons campaign was unwise enough to schedule a high-profile fundraiser with Holmes months after the publication of Carreyrous expos. But perhaps none of these elite supporters was as valuable as Mattis. As the SEC complaint describes, a main element of the fraud was that Holmes, and Balwani claimed that Theranos products were deployed by the U.S. Department of Defense on the battlefield in Afghanistan and on medevac helicopters and that the company would generate more than $100 million in revenue in 2014. Holmes, the SEC alleged, knew, or was reckless in not knowing, that these statements were false and misleading. Its easy to see, however, why investors might be fooled about this because one of the companys board members, Mattis, joined Theranos in 2013 immediately after retiring from a long career of military service that concluded with a stint leading CENTCOM, the US combatant command that is responsible for, among other things, Afghanistan. Mattis (who, obviously, has no expertise in medical testing) pushed for the military to use Theranos technology, but it was never actually used because it didnt work. Nonetheless, as of December 2015, Mattis was still vouching for the company, telling the Washington Post that he had quickly seen tremendous potential in the technologies Theranos develops, and I have the greatest respect for the companys mission and integrity. ... But by the time Mattis was selected to serve as Trumps secretary of defense in January 2017, the basic scope of the fraud was already well-known to the public thanks to diligent journalistic work. So was the fact that Mattis was not only earning $150,000 a year for his service on the Theranos board but was also involved in pro-Theranos advocacy while on active military duty. He duly resigned from Theranos on January 5, 2017 by which time the company was already commonly described as embroiled in scandal by press reports but, remarkably, the whole affair didnt come up at his confirmation hearings. --- What is this, a fair for ants? <cite>antfair posted [p:897911758] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>https://www.vox.com/2018/3/16/17124288/mattis-theranos-board-trump <quote>Secretary of Defense James Mattis is implicated in one of the largest business scandals of the past decades, described by the Securities and Exchange Commission as an elaborate, years-long fraud through which Theranos, led by CEO Elizabeth Holmes and president Ramesh Sunny Balwani, exaggerated or made false statements about the companys technology, business, and financial performance. Basically, their biotech startup was founded on the promise of faster, cheaper, painless blood tests. But their technology was fake. Mattis not only served on Theranoss board during some of the years it was perpetrating the fraud after he retired from US military service, but he earlier served as a key advocate of putting the companys technology (technology that was, to be clear, fake) to use inside the military while he was still serving as a general. Holmes is settling the case, paying a $500,000 fee and accepting various other penalties, while Balwani is fighting it out in court. Nobody on the board is being directly charged with doing anything. But accepting six-figure checks to serve as a frontman for a con operation is the kind of thing that would normally count as a liability in American politics. But nobody wants to talk about it. Not just Trump and his co-partisans in Congress; the Democratic Party opposition is also inclined to give Mattis a pass. Everyone in Washington is more or less convinced that his presence in the Pentagon is the only thing standing between us and possible nuclear Armageddon. ... This scheme worked because Theranos was deeply tied in with the American political, business, and media establishment counting former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and George Shultz as board members, and maintaining sufficient clout that Hillary Clintons campaign was unwise enough to schedule a high-profile fundraiser with Holmes months after the publication of Carreyrous expos. But perhaps none of these elite supporters was as valuable as Mattis. As the SEC complaint describes, a main element of the fraud was that Holmes, and Balwani claimed that Theranos products were deployed by the U.S. Department of Defense on the battlefield in Afghanistan and on medevac helicopters and that the company would generate more than $100 million in revenue in 2014. Holmes, the SEC alleged, knew, or was reckless in not knowing, that these statements were false and misleading. Its easy to see, however, why investors might be fooled about this because one of the companys board members, Mattis, joined Theranos in 2013 immediately after retiring from a long career of military service that concluded with a stint leading CENTCOM, the US combatant command that is responsible for, among other things, Afghanistan. Mattis (who, obviously, has no expertise in medical testing) pushed for the military to use Theranos technology, but it was never actually used because it didnt work. Nonetheless, as of December 2015, Mattis was still vouching for the company, telling the Washington Post that he had quickly seen tremendous potential in the technologies Theranos develops, and I have the greatest respect for the companys mission and integrity. ... But by the time Mattis was selected to serve as Trumps secretary of defense in January 2017, the basic scope of the fraud was already well-known to the public thanks to diligent journalistic work. So was the fact that Mattis was not only earning $150,000 a year for his service on the Theranos board but was also involved in pro-Theranos advocacy while on active military duty. He duly resigned from Theranos on January 5, 2017 by which time the company was already commonly described as embroiled in scandal by press reports but, remarkably, the whole affair didnt come up at his confirmation hearings.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SK8T3R215 03/16/18 11:13:36 AM #3:	Whew that's a lot of words trying to put him in on this even though the SEC investigation concluded management was at fault. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:897911982] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>Whew that's a lot of words trying to put him in on this even though the SEC investigation concluded management was at fault.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patchwork 03/16/18 11:14:12 AM #4:	So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled? Mattis is an almost renowned stand-up guy. I'm gonna have to look more into this. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:897912004] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled? Mattis is an almost renowned stand-up guy. I'm gonna have to look more into this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/16/18 11:17:17 AM #5:	Patchwork posted... So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled? Mattis is an almost renowned stand-up guy. I'm gonna have to look more into this. It's not that it doesn't work, it just doesn't work with enough accuracy to be a reliable medical tool. They've made attempts to improve the technology but haven't really gotten anywhere and have lied to investors about their progress. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:897912132] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote>So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled? Mattis is an almost renowned stand-up guy. I'm gonna have to look more into this.</quote> It's not that it doesn't work, it just doesn't work with enough accuracy to be a reliable medical tool. They've made attempts to improve the technology but haven't really gotten anywhere and have lied to investors about their progress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 03/16/18 11:18:32 AM #6:	Patchwork posted... So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled? Most likely the latter since the article is basically a bunch of assumptions to find him at fault --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:897912186] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote>So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled?</quote> Most likely the latter since the article is basically a bunch of assumptions to find him at fault</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 03/16/18 11:22:11 AM #7:	only the best people --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:897912347] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>only the best people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 11:22:39 AM #8:	Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897912375] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/16/18 11:22:50 AM #9:	jim 'mad stacks' mattis --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:897912385] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>jim 'mad stacks' mattis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 03/16/18 11:23:02 AM #10:	s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. drain the swamp --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:897912397] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> drain the swamp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tamashiini 03/16/18 11:24:20 AM #11:	s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. Garbage in, garbage out. --- PSN: helicene Careful, Icarus. <cite>tamashiini posted [p:897912453] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> Garbage in, garbage out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 11:24:25 AM #12:	mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. drain the swamp Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897912456] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> drain the swamp</quote> Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patchwork 03/16/18 11:24:35 AM #13:	SK8T3R215 posted... Patchwork posted... So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled? Most likely the latter since the article is basically a bunch of assumptions to find him at fault That's what I figured. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:897912462] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote>So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled?</quote> Most likely the latter since the article is basically a bunch of assumptions to find him at fault</quote> That's what I figured.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 03/16/18 11:27:35 AM #14:	Patchwork posted... SK8T3R215 posted... Patchwork posted... So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled? Most likely the latter since the article is basically a bunch of assumptions to find him at fault That's what I figured. Also it's a Vox article so you can assume it's exaggerated and poorly understood by the writer. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:897912607] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote>So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled?</quote> Most likely the latter since the article is basically a bunch of assumptions to find him at fault</quote> That's what I figured.</quote> Also it's a Vox article so you can assume it's exaggerated and poorly understood by the writer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 03/16/18 11:27:45 AM #15:	s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. drain the swamp Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. keep crying your delicious redhat tears, they sustain me --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:897912618] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> drain the swamp</quote> Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now.</quote> keep crying your delicious redhat tears, they sustain me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/16/18 11:28:02 AM #16:	s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. Why would you assume that fraudulent behavior would result in a resignation from the Trump administration? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:897912628] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> Why would you assume that fraudulent behavior would result in a resignation from the Trump administration?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 11:28:20 AM #17:	mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. drain the swamp Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. keep crying your delicious redhat tears, they sustain me Good, you'll need to be well fed when your extremist agenda never gets passed and the only thing left for you to eat is your hat. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897912644] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> drain the swamp</quote> Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now.</quote> keep crying your delicious redhat tears, they sustain me</quote> Good, you'll need to be well fed when your extremist agenda never gets passed and the only thing left for you to eat is your hat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 03/16/18 11:28:48 AM #18:	Mad Dogg not going anywhere --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:897912673] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>Mad Dogg not going anywhere</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 03/16/18 11:28:59 AM #19:	Antifar posted... Why would you assume that fraudulent behavior would result in a resignation from the Trump administration? lol this. this admin is corrupt as shit. --- https://i.imgur.com/3RCJd8I.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:897912678] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Why would you assume that fraudulent behavior would result in a resignation from the Trump administration? </quote> lol this. this admin is corrupt as shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 03/16/18 11:32:58 AM #20:	s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. drain the swamp Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. keep crying your delicious redhat tears, they sustain me Good, you'll need to be well fed when your extremist agenda never gets passed and the only thing left for you to eat is your hat. we are living in an era where we are fortunate enough to see the death of american conservatism the more you try and fight it, the more painful it will be when it finally happens just accept it. it is a good thing --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:897912851] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> drain the swamp</quote> Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now.</quote> keep crying your delicious redhat tears, they sustain me</quote> Good, you'll need to be well fed when your extremist agenda never gets passed and the only thing left for you to eat is your hat.</quote> we are living in an era where we are fortunate enough to see the death of american conservatism the more you try and fight it, the more painful it will be when it finally happens just accept it. it is a good thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 11:34:49 AM #21:	mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. drain the swamp Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. keep crying your delicious redhat tears, they sustain me Good, you'll need to be well fed when your extremist agenda never gets passed and the only thing left for you to eat is your hat. we are living in an era where we are fortunate enough to see the death of american conservatism the more you try and fight it, the more painful it will be when it finally happens just accept it. it is a good thing That's totally why you're seeing a global rise in conservatism, right? But by all means I'm not going to stop you, because the insane ideals of you and people like you are creating conservative strongholds in every western nation. You've got countries like the UK, Italy, France, etc where conservative parties are going in single elections from single digits to dominance and eastern european countries pushing so hard right it's actually kind of getting scary. You have no idea what you're birthing. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897912932] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> drain the swamp</quote> Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now.</quote> keep crying your delicious redhat tears, they sustain me</quote> Good, you'll need to be well fed when your extremist agenda never gets passed and the only thing left for you to eat is your hat.</quote> we are living in an era where we are fortunate enough to see the death of american conservatism the more you try and fight it, the more painful it will be when it finally happens just accept it. it is a good thing</quote> That's totally why you're seeing a global rise in conservatism, right? But by all means I'm not going to stop you, because the insane ideals of you and people like you are creating conservative strongholds in every western nation. You've got countries like the UK, Italy, France, etc where conservative parties are going in single elections from single digits to dominance and eastern european countries pushing so hard right it's actually kind of getting scary. You have no idea what you're birthing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 03/16/18 11:36:39 AM #22:	s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. drain the swamp Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. keep crying your delicious redhat tears, they sustain me Good, you'll need to be well fed when your extremist agenda never gets passed and the only thing left for you to eat is your hat. we are living in an era where we are fortunate enough to see the death of american conservatism the more you try and fight it, the more painful it will be when it finally happens just accept it. it is a good thing That's totally why you're seeing a global rise in conservatism, right? But by all means I'm not going to stop you, because the insane ideals of you and people like you are creating conservative strongholds in every western nation. You've got countries like the UK, Italy, France, etc where conservative parties are going in single elections from single digits to dominance and eastern european countries pushing so hard right it's actually kind of getting scary. You have no idea what you're birthing. that is because they are small, frightened children who cannot cope with the idea that the world might move on without them but the onus is on them to adapt, not progressivism --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:897913028] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> drain the swamp</quote> Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now.</quote> keep crying your delicious redhat tears, they sustain me</quote> Good, you'll need to be well fed when your extremist agenda never gets passed and the only thing left for you to eat is your hat.</quote> we are living in an era where we are fortunate enough to see the death of american conservatism the more you try and fight it, the more painful it will be when it finally happens just accept it. it is a good thing</quote> That's totally why you're seeing a global rise in conservatism, right? But by all means I'm not going to stop you, because the insane ideals of you and people like you are creating conservative strongholds in every western nation. You've got countries like the UK, Italy, France, etc where conservative parties are going in single elections from single digits to dominance and eastern european countries pushing so hard right it's actually kind of getting scary. You have no idea what you're birthing.</quote> that is because they are small, frightened children who cannot cope with the idea that the world might move on without them but the onus is on them to adapt, not progressivism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 03/16/18 11:36:58 AM #23:	s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. drain the swamp Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. Look you can appreciate his actions as the secretary of defense but if he committed felony fraud he needs to answer for that. No on'es above the law. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:897913042] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> drain the swamp</quote> Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now.</quote> Look you can appreciate his actions as the secretary of defense but if he committed felony fraud he needs to answer for that. No on'es above the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 11:37:35 AM #24:	MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. drain the swamp Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. Look you can appreciate his actions as the secretary of defense but if he committed felony fraud he needs to answer for that. No on'es above the law. Sure, IF he committed felony fraud, but as far as the article states: antfair posted... Nobody on the board is being directly charged with doing anything. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897913075] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> drain the swamp</quote> Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now.</quote> Look you can appreciate his actions as the secretary of defense but if he committed felony fraud he needs to answer for that. No on'es above the law.</quote> Sure, IF he committed felony fraud, but as far as the article states: <cite>antfair posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody on the board is being directly charged with doing anything.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/16/18 11:39:04 AM #25:	s0nicfan posted... That's totally why you're seeing a global rise in conservatism, right? You're seeing a rise in nationalism. Classical conservatism and the traditional right wing parties aren't on the rise. The Tories held a snap election and wound up needing a coalition with the kooky DUP. In Italy, the party that just won a plurality of seats is so vague on its actual principles (besides a loose opposition to migrants) that it tells its members to abstain from voting on anything controversial. France saw its Republicans pushed out of the way by fucking fascists (who then lost heavily to a guy who might as well personify the "globalist" epithet). In the US, the Republican Party holds power on the basis of an administration filled with philanderers and those who see an opportunity to bilk the public for taxpayer money for their personal gain. It's hardly small government, religious conservatism at the fore. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:897913158] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>That's totally why you're seeing a global rise in conservatism, right?</quote> You're seeing a rise in nationalism. Classical conservatism and the traditional right wing parties aren't on the rise. The Tories held a snap election and wound up needing a coalition with the kooky DUP. In Italy, the party that just won a plurality of seats is so vague on its actual principles (besides a loose opposition to migrants) that it tells its members to abstain from voting on anything controversial. France saw its Republicans pushed out of the way by fucking fascists (who then lost heavily to a guy who might as well personify the "globalist" epithet). In the US, the Republican Party holds power on the basis of an administration filled with philanderers and those who see an opportunity to bilk the public for taxpayer money for their personal gain. It's hardly small government, religious conservatism at the fore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 03/16/18 11:39:16 AM #26:	MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation. drain the swamp Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. Look you can appreciate his actions as the secretary of defense but if he committed felony fraud he needs to answer for that. No on'es above the law. redhats would have each and every one of their paragons escape justice just so they can say "I told you so" party of law and order --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:897913170] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Mattis is a fantastic Sec of Defense so I hope this doesn't lead to his resignation.</quote> drain the swamp</quote> Fuck off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now.</quote> Look you can appreciate his actions as the secretary of defense but if he committed felony fraud he needs to answer for that. No on'es above the law.</quote> redhats would have each and every one of their paragons escape justice just so they can say "I told you so" party of law and order</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 11:41:08 AM #27:	Antifar posted... s0nicfan posted... That's totally why you're seeing a global rise in conservatism, right? You're seeing a rise in nationalism. Classical conservatism and the traditional right wing parties aren't on the rise. The Tories held a snap election and wound up needing a coalition with the kooky DUP. In Italy, the party that just won a plurality of seats is so vague on its actual principles (besides a loose opposition to migrants) that it tells its members to abstain from voting on anything controversial. In the US, the Republican Party holds power on the basis of an administration filled with philanderers and those who see an opportunity to bilk the public for taxpayer money for their personal gain. You could make the same argument about classic liberalism, though. The current far-left and people like Mario in no way represent traditional left values and they're at a point where you've got parties like Labour that have completely stopped talking about workers. It's more likely that both parties are evolving in their stances, but you can't honestly say the right is dying without simultaneously admitting the left is dying in the exact same way. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897913276] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>That's totally why you're seeing a global rise in conservatism, right?</quote> You're seeing a rise in nationalism. Classical conservatism and the traditional right wing parties aren't on the rise. The Tories held a snap election and wound up needing a coalition with the kooky DUP. In Italy, the party that just won a plurality of seats is so vague on its actual principles (besides a loose opposition to migrants) that it tells its members to abstain from voting on anything controversial. In the US, the Republican Party holds power on the basis of an administration filled with philanderers and those who see an opportunity to bilk the public for taxpayer money for their personal gain.</quote> You could make the same argument about classic liberalism, though. The current far-left and people like Mario in no way represent traditional left values and they're at a point where you've got parties like Labour that have completely stopped talking about workers. It's more likely that both parties are evolving in their stances, but you can't honestly say the right is dying without simultaneously admitting the left is dying in the exact same way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/16/18 11:43:01 AM #28:	Get Mattis out. Corrupt as hell. Drain the swamp --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:897913373] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>Get Mattis out. Corrupt as hell. Drain the swamp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/16/18 11:43:39 AM #29:	s0nicfan posted... You could make the same argument about classic liberalism, though. Yes, absolutely. Liberalism sucks and deserves to be replaced. s0nicfan posted... The current far-left and people like Mario in no way represent traditional left values Yes they do. They don't represent liberal values. s0nicfan posted... they're at a point where you've got parties like Labour that have completely stopped talking about workers. This is absolutely, 100% not true. The relative success of Corbyn has been the direct result of working class movements and strengthened ties to labor unions. Labour has put workers first for the first time in a long time. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:897913408] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>You could make the same argument about classic liberalism, though.</quote> Yes, absolutely. Liberalism sucks and deserves to be replaced. <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> The current far-left and people like Mario in no way represent traditional left values</quote> Yes they do. They don't represent liberal values. <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> they're at a point where you've got parties like Labour that have completely stopped talking about workers.</quote> This is absolutely, 100% not true. The relative success of Corbyn has been the direct result of working class movements and strengthened ties to labor unions. Labour has put workers first for the first time in a long time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 03/16/18 11:45:13 AM #30:	Doom_Art posted... Get Mattis out. Corrupt as hell. Drain the swamp yes. Mattis out. Bolton in --- https://i.imgur.com/3RCJd8I.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:897913505] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Get Mattis out. Corrupt as hell. Drain the swamp</quote> yes. Mattis out. Bolton in</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 11:46:15 AM #31:	Antifar posted... This is absolutely, 100% not true. The relative success of Corbyn has been the direct result of working class movements and strengthened ties to labor unions. Labour has put workers first for the first time in a long time. Are you talking in the last 6 months, or the last few years? Labour has seem content to play identity politics rather than focus on issues like the housing crisis and a jobs shortage, but it's possible they've changed their tune a bit. There's also that nagging problem of modern Labour having to repeatedly deal with high ranking members of their party being openly antisemitic. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897913560] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>This is absolutely, 100% not true. The relative success of Corbyn has been the direct result of working class movements and strengthened ties to labor unions. Labour has put workers first for the first time in a long time.</quote> Are you talking in the last 6 months, or the last few years? Labour has seem content to play identity politics rather than focus on issues like the housing crisis and a jobs shortage, but it's possible they've changed their tune a bit. There's also that nagging problem of modern Labour having to repeatedly deal with high ranking members of their party being openly antisemitic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/16/18 11:49:42 AM #32:	nationalist trade policies actually are a classical conservative stance, it is just that there have never been any classical conservative parties in the U.S. as both are based on classical liberal principles (at least, so they say) --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:897913770] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>nationalist trade policies actually are a classical conservative stance, it is just that there have never been any classical conservative parties in the U.S. as both are based on classical liberal principles (at least, so they say)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/16/18 11:52:21 AM #33:	Wow it's never ending. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:897913899] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>Wow it's never ending.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/16/18 11:53:22 AM #34:	s0nicfan posted... Are you talking in the last 6 months, or the last few years? Labour has seem content to play identity politics rather than focus on issues like the housing crisis and a jobs shortage, but it's possible they've changed their tune a bit. There's also that nagging problem of modern Labour having to repeatedly deal with high ranking members of their party being openly antisemitic. Corbyn was the far-left insurgent candidate for Labour leader back in 2015. His campaign was based on a strong anti-austerity stance and opening up the party to more grassroots activists, including union members. It was a rejection of the more centrist third way ideology of Milliband/Blair --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:897913951] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Are you talking in the last 6 months, or the last few years? Labour has seem content to play identity politics rather than focus on issues like the housing crisis and a jobs shortage, but it's possible they've changed their tune a bit. There's also that nagging problem of modern Labour having to repeatedly deal with high ranking members of their party being openly antisemitic.</quote> Corbyn was the far-left insurgent candidate for Labour leader back in 2015. His campaign was based on a strong anti-austerity stance and opening up the party to more grassroots activists, including union members. It was a rejection of the more centrist third way ideology of Milliband/Blair</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/16/18 11:54:31 AM #35:	s0nicfan posted... Labour has seem content to play identity politics rather than focus on issues like the housing crisis and a jobs shortage, but it's possible they've changed their tune a bit. I'm talking about the party under Corbyn and last year's election. The platform Labour put out for that election put workers front and center: https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/fair-deal-work/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/labour-apos-manifesto-shows-true-113911592.html --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:897914008] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Labour has seem content to play identity politics rather than focus on issues like the housing crisis and a jobs shortage, but it's possible they've changed their tune a bit.</quote> I'm talking about the party under Corbyn and last year's election. The platform Labour put out for that election put workers front and center: https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/fair-deal-work/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/labour-apos-manifesto-shows-true-113911592.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/16/18 11:58:14 AM #36:	@s0nicfan is willing to tolerate such blatant corruption in government officials. Not much use in arguing with him --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:897914167] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan is willing to tolerate such blatant corruption in government officials. Not much use in arguing with him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 12:01:12 PM #37:	Antifar posted... s0nicfan posted... Labour has seem content to play identity politics rather than focus on issues like the housing crisis and a jobs shortage, but it's possible they've changed their tune a bit. I'm talking about the party under Corbyn and last year's election. The platform Labour put out for that election put workers front and center: https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/fair-deal-work/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/labour-apos-manifesto-shows-true-113911592.html That's a great platform on paper, but if that's what Labour actually claims to stand for I haven't seen it lately from the actual members, especially not from Corbyn, at least as it relates to Question Time and public speaking. That may be more a factor of immigration being their hot topic right now, though. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897914326] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Labour has seem content to play identity politics rather than focus on issues like the housing crisis and a jobs shortage, but it's possible they've changed their tune a bit.</quote> I'm talking about the party under Corbyn and last year's election. The platform Labour put out for that election put workers front and center: https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/fair-deal-work/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/labour-apos-manifesto-shows-true-113911592.html</quote> That's a great platform on paper, but if that's what Labour actually claims to stand for I haven't seen it lately from the actual members, especially not from Corbyn, at least as it relates to Question Time and public speaking. That may be more a factor of immigration being their hot topic right now, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 12:01:43 PM #38:	Doom_Art posted... @s0nicfan is willing to tolerate such blatant corruption in government officials. Not much use in arguing with him Doom I'm having a reasonable conversation with some people right now. Get your partisan hackery out of here if all you want to do is shitpost. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897914353] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan is willing to tolerate such blatant corruption in government officials. Not much use in arguing with him</quote> Doom I'm having a reasonable conversation with some people right now. Get your partisan hackery out of here if all you want to do is shitpost.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/16/18 12:02:19 PM #39:	And now he's deflecting to England because he can't address Mattis' corruption --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:897914385] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>And now he's deflecting to England because he can't address Mattis' corruption</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 12:03:10 PM #40:	Doom_Art posted... And now he's deflecting to England because he can't address Mattis' corruption antfair posted... Nobody on the board is being directly charged with doing anything. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897914428] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>And now he's deflecting to England because he can't address Mattis' corruption</quote> <cite>antfair posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody on the board is being directly charged with doing anything.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/16/18 12:04:19 PM #41:	All I'm saying is we should probably drain the swamp by starting with stuff like this Not sure why you're so tolerant of corruption all of a sudden --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:897914481] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>All I'm saying is we should probably drain the swamp by starting with stuff like this Not sure why you're so tolerant of corruption all of a sudden</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 03/16/18 12:04:47 PM #42:	SK8T3R215 posted... Patchwork posted... SK8T3R215 posted... Patchwork posted... So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled? Most likely the latter since the article is basically a bunch of assumptions to find him at fault That's what I figured. Also it's a Vox article so you can assume it's exaggerated and poorly understood by the writer. Yeah, that was my first thought. They don't try to conceal their bias in any way. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:897914506] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote>So, did he actually know the shit didn't work and then advocate it, or was he also being misled?</quote> Most likely the latter since the article is basically a bunch of assumptions to find him at fault</quote> That's what I figured.</quote> Also it's a Vox article so you can assume it's exaggerated and poorly understood by the writer.</quote> Yeah, that was my first thought. They don't try to conceal their bias in any way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 03/16/18 12:05:33 PM #43:	yeah Matt Y is a dweeb I don't take anything he says seriously --- https://i.imgur.com/3RCJd8I.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:897914539] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>yeah Matt Y is a dweeb I don't take anything he says seriously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/16/18 12:05:40 PM #44:	Doom_Art posted... All I'm saying is we should probably drain the swamp by starting with stuff like this Not sure why you're so tolerant of corruption all of a sudden When the charges show up we can talk. Until then... antfair posted... Nobody on the board is being directly charged with doing anything. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897914545] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>All I'm saying is we should probably drain the swamp by starting with stuff like this Not sure why you're so tolerant of corruption all of a sudden</quote> When the charges show up we can talk. Until then... <cite>antfair posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody on the board is being directly charged with doing anything.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 03/16/18 12:16:58 PM #45:	This is troubling, but there's no evidence to suggest it was anything more than a lapse in judgment. We all make mistakes. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:897915126] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote>This is troubling, but there's no evidence to suggest it was anything more than a lapse in judgment. We all make mistakes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 03/16/18 12:20:09 PM #46:	s0nicfan posted... f* off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. Im no Trump fan but I agree. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:897915301] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> f* off. You'd see the whole country burn to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Half of Trump's cabinet is garbage, but Mattis was the architect behind the Syria airfield strike and has overseen the rapid victories against ISIS. He's exactly the kind of person we need in that position right now. </quote> Im no Trump fan but I agree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 03/16/18 12:20:39 PM #47:	ElatedVenusaur posted... This is troubling, but there's no evidence to suggest it was anything more than a lapse in judgment. We all make mistakes. Its more of he was deceived like the investors were since Holmes was the Chairman of the Board and basically was the one of the two who communicated with the Board. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:897915337] in James Matt... [t:76421517]...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>This is troubling, but there's no evidence to suggest it was anything more than a lapse in judgment. We all make mistakes.</quote> Its more of he was deceived like the investors were since Holmes was the Chairman of the Board and basically was the one of the two who communicated with the Board.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > James Mattis linked to massive corporate fraud