Current Events > Arkansas public school 'swats' kids who walked out the other day

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/teens-face-corporal-punishment-in-rural-arkansas-for-participating-in-student-walkout

My kid and two other students walked out of their rural, very conservative, public school for 17 minutes today, Greer wrote on Twitter. They were given two punishment options. They chose corporal punishment. This generation is not playing around.

Greer later said that the students faced what the school calls swats.

According to Greenbrier Public Schools official policy, the school board authorizes the use of corporal punishment to be administered in accordance with this policy by the Superintendent or his/her designated staff members who are required to have a state-issued license as a condition of their employment.

The handbook says that before students are smacked they are to be given an explanation of the reasons for the punishment and be given an opportunity to refute the charges. administered privately, i.e. out of the sight and hearing of other students.

Greenbrier Public School, which is located in a town of roughly 5,000 people, only first adopted the seemingly outdated disciplinary policy in 2005 and last updated it in 2012.

The rural Arkansas schools policy does caution administrations that the physical punishment should not be excessive, or administered with malice and should be administered in the presence of another school official or licensed staff member of the district.

The schools assistant principal, Brett Meek, hung up the phone when The Daily Beast reached out for comment on the schools regulations. The schools superintendent, Scott Spainhour, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

lmao rural arkansas is an awful place

literally only adopted corporal punishment in the year of our lord 2005
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So originally based on your topic title. I thought they "swatted" the students by calling the swat on them like that dumb thing people were doing to live streamers.
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So wait, they didn't call a swat team on them? The fuck TC!
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I think I would go insane if my kids got hit by adults
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Someone will defend this.
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prince_leo posted...

I think I would go insane if my kids got hit by adults

Yeah, I'd be walking into that office with a baseball bat
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Two days suspension or being hit with a paddle? I'd have chosen two days of free vacation
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Huh, I didn't realize schools anywhere still dealt corporal punishment.

Anyway, presumably skipping class has always been against the rules.
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Thankfully Canada outlawed this years ago.
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damn glad i live in little rock with civilized folk and not out in the boonies
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someone's gonna drive a car through the principal's office in coming days

and he'll deserve it
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Alexanaxela posted...

damn glad i live in little rock with civilized folk and not out in the boonies

lol you don't have to go far out before you start seeing it

jacksonville's new school district has an opt-in for corporal punishment; I think as close as cabot it isn't even an option, they just have it
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Honestly if I was a student I'd choose the beating, then as soon as they laid hands on me beat the teacher that hit me into a fucking coma, claim self defense, and win the case because I was a minor.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Honestly if I was a student I'd choose the beating, then as soon as they laid hands on me beat the teacher that hit me into a fucking coma, claim self defense, and win the case because I was a minor.

I mean, honestly, going back to a system of public lashings would be far superior to the current correctional system we have

so I kinda agree with your conclusion but maybe not on your reasoning lol
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In Chicago, in the mid-late 80s, teachers would smack kids that back mouthed or really acted out in extreme cases. In the classroom in open view as a lesson to other kids, and to take us down a notch. I learned to keep my smart mouth shut. Those ladies didn't take shit.

You guys do know that the parents sign off on this when they enroll their kids into that school. Also, there is a choice. Choose the suspension or choose the swats.

They chose the swats and now they are complaining?
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Good. If those kids can't follow the rules they deserve to be beaten into a bloody mess with a sledgehammer

DirkDiggles posted...

They chose the swats and now they are complaining?

It doesn't sound like the kids are complaining. Just sounds like an article reporting what happened.
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I'm trying to imagine what would happen if I just didn't show up to work one day with no prior notification, then went back the next day and get pulled into my Boss's office and he tells me I have to choose between being fired or being spanked.
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Isn't illegal to do that?
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are we still in the pioneer days? wtf?
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Honestly if I was a student I'd choose the beating, then as soon as they laid hands on me beat the teacher that hit me into a fucking coma, claim self defense, and win the case because I was a minor.

Lol, no you wouldn't
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DirkDiggles posted...

You guys do know that the parents sign off on this when they enroll their kids into that school.

the only statutory guidance in Arkansas laws about corporal punishment is that it is okay to do if the school district says it is. Many districts allow parents to opt out, but that isn't the same thing as getting their permission.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

prince_leo posted...

I think I would go insane if my kids got hit by adults

Yeah, I'd be walking into that office with a baseball bat

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LightHawKnight posted...

Isn't illegal to do that?

not here in arkansas

https://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2017/03/15/bid-to-eliminate-corporal-punishment-in-schools-fails

Sen. Joyce Elliott (D-Little Rock), lead sponsor of Senate Bill 610, said that corporal punishment should be a parent's responsibility and that allowing corporal punishment in schools sends the wrong message to kids.

"It should be the mission of our schools, I think, to teach our kids ways of resolving conflict other than there having to be physical conflict," Elliott said in an interview.

During questions, Sen. Alan Clark (R-Lonsdale) asked Elliott if she believed corporal punishment "never works."

"We can talk about my experiences with corporal punishment," Clark said. "I'll just say, I found them to be quite effective."

Clark relayed one experience he had in which a principal paddled his son in seventh grade for "horsing around in the football dressing room." The handbook said the school should suspend the boy for three days, but the principal opted to punish with the paddle instead.

"I got fire in my eyes, y'all have seen me that way, and I said, 'If you had suspended my seventh grader for three days for horsing around in the dressing room, I would have been mad.' So there are different value systems here," Clark said.

Elliott responded, "I think you were in that position because you've been forced into a false choice" between suspension or corporal punishment.
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Balrog0 posted...

Alexanaxela posted...

damn glad i live in little rock with civilized folk and not out in the boonies

lol you don't have to go far out before you start seeing it

jacksonville's new school district has an opt-in for corporal punishment; I think as close as cabot it isn't even an option, they just have it

i just make sure to stick to the real cities
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Alexanaxela posted...

i just make sure to stick to the real cities

even little rock barely counts as a real city imo
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Honestly if I was a student I'd choose the beating, then as soon as they laid hands on me beat the teacher that hit me into a fucking coma, claim self defense, and win the case because I was a minor.

Super internet badass right here folks. Reality is its legal there and if you chose the swats your ass would be going to jail for attempted murder. Of course saying that from behind your keyboard on gamefaqs makes it laughable anyways.

Balrog0 posted...

Alexanaxela posted...

i just make sure to stick to the real cities

even little rock barely counts as a real city imo

now u dun goof'd
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Alexanaxela posted...

damn glad i live in little rock with civilized folk and not out in the boonies

Lol thinking Arkansas as a whole isn't the boonies
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screw you guys, I'm goin home
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Alexanaxela posted...

screw you guys, I'm goin home

i bet u live in hillcrest or one of those fancy new midrises in downtown dont you
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goin home
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1. Youre not going to hit my kid.
2. My kid is not going to a school where teachers have permission to hit my kid.
3. Kids walked out to miss clas
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Tmaster148 posted...

So originally based on your topic title. I thought they "swatted" the students by calling the swat on them like that dumb thing people were doing to live streamers.

That's what I expected. Would have been ebin (like civil rights protest-levels of chaos and overreaction).
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fenderbender321 posted...

prince_leo posted...

I think I would go insane if my kids got hit by adults

Thank God you didn't have kids at any time in human history before 1980

Arkansas has a few more years before they catch up to 1980, so it all works out!
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One thing to give the students detention or suspension or whatever for walking out. Its another to use corporal punishment. What a joke.
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ClunkerSlim posted...

I would have died laughing if a teacher had told me they were going to hit me. I guess from about 7th grade and below I would have been too scared to resist. But by 8th or 9th grade I would have kicked the living shit out of any teacher who tried to hit me. Actually I would have just walked out and left. If they had grabbed me then theyd be bringing in the school resource officer to pull me off that teacher.

Oooooh. A badass i like
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CharlesBronson posted...

Also how is this post still up.
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...

Someone will defend this.

Not in this particular instance but I got my ass busted in school and generally had it coming. It's not a big deal. You people are weak with your no corporal punishment views.

@sktgamer_13dude posted...

CharlesBronson posted...

Also how is this post still up.

Cause you're the only one who got offended reading it
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KingCrabCake posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

CharlesBronson posted...

Also how is this post still up.

Cause you're the only one who got offended reading it

Yeah saying that kids deserved to be beat into a bloody pulp with a sledgehammer for walking out isnt offensive.

/s

And you wonder why we think youre a joke.
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You guys are so goddamn uptight. This was a choice at my school too. Generally swats were the preferred punishment to OSS, since parents made OSS really shitty for kids. Nanny state still in control I guess.
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It wasn't until the end of my senior year that our district made corporal punishment have to have parental consent before being used.

That was in 2013

Also I'd much rather take three licks than ISS/OSS but that's just me
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

CharlesBronson posted...

Also how is this post still up.

Cause you're the only one who got offended reading it

Yeah saying that kids deserved to be beat into a bloody pulp with a sledgehammer for walking out isnt offensive.

/s

And you wonder why we think youre a joke.

Solid meltdown
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KingCrabCake posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

CharlesBronson posted...

Also how is this post still up.

Cause you're the only one who got offended reading it

Yeah saying that kids deserved to be beat into a bloody pulp with a sledgehammer for walking out isnt offensive.

/s

And you wonder why we think youre a joke.

Solid meltdown

Nice rebuttal
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

CharlesBronson posted...

Also how is this post still up.

Cause you're the only one who got offended reading it

Yeah saying that kids deserved to be beat into a bloody pulp with a sledgehammer for walking out isnt offensive.

/s

And you wonder why we think youre a joke.

Solid meltdown

Nice rebuttal

Incoming second meltdown by Mr.Swift
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KingCrabCake posted...

1. Youre not going to hit my kid.
2. My kid is not going to a school where teachers have permission to hit my kid.
3. Kids walked out to miss clas

Your kid won't respect authority once he or she moves out and realize he/she doesn't have to answer to the few people that corrected him/her.

I hope you're already saving up bail money.