Poll of the Day > California teacher accidentally shoots student

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Kyuubi4269 03/14/18 4:55:40 PM #51:	This is why California has strict gun laws, because they're unfathomably idiotic around them. People with no respect for firearms shouldn't be allowed to have them. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:897803770] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>This is why California has strict gun laws, because they're unfathomably idiotic around them. People with no respect for firearms shouldn't be allowed to have them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/14/18 4:56:07 PM #52:	SmokeMassTree posted... Jen0125 posted... VioletZer0 posted... Maybe that's because that's how the country was founded or something. uh yeah like 300 years ago. this is modern america. maybe you should evolve with the times instead of being stuck in the 1770s. Jen thinks we should throw out the constitution and start over it's almost like the constitution was designed to be changed... --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897803798] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe that's because that's how the country was founded or something.</quote> uh yeah like 300 years ago. this is modern america. maybe you should evolve with the times instead of being stuck in the 1770s.</quote> Jen thinks we should throw out the constitution and start over</quote> it's almost like the constitution was designed to be changed...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 03/14/18 4:56:36 PM #53:	i hate guns and literally anyone who thinks they have a single positive attribute. They needs to use their guns on themselves!! --- AT&T U-Verse internet is TRASH. <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:897803827] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>i hate guns and literally anyone who thinks they have a single positive attribute. They needs to use their guns on themselves!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 03/14/18 4:56:42 PM #54:	It's almost like they have tried to change the 2nd amendment multiple times and failed --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:897803835] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>It's almost like they have tried to change the 2nd amendment multiple times and failed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/14/18 4:56:46 PM #55:	RCtheWSBC posted... Most BLM protests are not organized as armed protests. They are majorly non-violent. Police brutality and misconduct affects all Americans and happens too frequently. Why haven't more armed civilians directly confronted law enforcement? They don't need to be! The point of an armed populace is not to use it. An armed populace is what allows a peaceful protest to even happen to begin with. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897803838] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Most BLM protests are not organized as armed protests. They are majorly non-violent. Police brutality and misconduct affects all Americans and happens too frequently. Why haven't more armed civilians directly confronted law enforcement?</quote> They don't need to be! The point of an armed populace is not to use it. An armed populace is what allows a peaceful protest to even happen to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 03/14/18 4:57:26 PM #56:	Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility? --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:897803879] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/14/18 4:57:55 PM #57:	RCtheWSBC posted... Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility? That's what we've been trying to do. It's not going to happen overnight. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897803914] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility?</quote> That's what we've been trying to do. It's not going to happen overnight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/14/18 4:58:13 PM #58:	SmokeMassTree posted... It's almost like they have tried to change the 2nd amendment multiple times and failed it's almost like that doesn't matter because you can try to change it as many times as you want. i don't get people like you who don't understand the fucking constitution. the 2nd amendment was an amendment to the constitution. so you do understand they can alter that amendment or add a new amendment, right? so what's with the argument about the constitution? --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897803929] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost like they have tried to change the 2nd amendment multiple times and failed</quote> it's almost like that doesn't matter because you can try to change it as many times as you want. i don't get people like you who don't understand the fucking constitution. the 2nd amendment was an amendment to the constitution. so you do understand they can alter that amendment or add a new amendment, right? so what's with the argument about the constitution?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/14/18 4:58:39 PM #59:	VioletZer0 posted... RCtheWSBC posted... Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility? That's what we've been trying to do. It's not going to happen overnight. oh you are, billy badass? how many cops have you shot, big guy? --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897803961] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility?</quote> That's what we've been trying to do. It's not going to happen overnight.</quote> oh you are, billy badass? how many cops have you shot, big guy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/14/18 4:59:03 PM #60:	Jen0125 posted... it's almost like that doesn't matter because you can try to change it as many times as you want. i don't get people like you who don't understand the fucking constitution. the 2nd amendment was an amendment to the constitution. so you do understand they can alter that amendment or add a new amendment, right? so what's with the argument about the constitution? 2nd Amendment was part of the Bill of Rights. It wasn't literally "amended" to the constitution. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897803985] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>it's almost like that doesn't matter because you can try to change it as many times as you want. i don't get people like you who don't understand the fucking constitution. the 2nd amendment was an amendment to the constitution. so you do understand they can alter that amendment or add a new amendment, right? so what's with the argument about the constitution?</quote> 2nd Amendment was part of the Bill of Rights. It wasn't literally "amended" to the constitution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/14/18 4:59:22 PM #61:	Jen0125 posted... VioletZer0 posted... RCtheWSBC posted... Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility? That's what we've been trying to do. It's not going to happen overnight. oh you are, billy badass? how many cops have you shot, big guy? I don't want to shoot cops. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897804001] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility?</quote> That's what we've been trying to do. It's not going to happen overnight.</quote> oh you are, billy badass? how many cops have you shot, big guy?</quote> I don't want to shoot cops.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/14/18 4:59:24 PM #62:	no shit sherlock. the bill of rights are the amendments to the constitution. jesus fuck. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897804004] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>no shit sherlock. the bill of rights are the amendments to the constitution. jesus fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 03/14/18 4:59:26 PM #63:	If armed civilians are supposed to organize the general population to rein in law enforcement, why isn't it happening on a larger scale? Obviously BLM movements are not doing enough, and has many detractors. --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:897804010] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>If armed civilians are supposed to organize the general population to rein in law enforcement, why isn't it happening on a larger scale? Obviously BLM movements are not doing enough, and has many detractors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 03/14/18 4:59:58 PM #64:	RCtheWSBC posted... Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility? Because they can scrape by and don't want to start a war against the government if they can help it? It's not a desired outcome to force the government to behave, but sufficient pressure may make ut necessary. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:897804038] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility?</quote> Because they can scrape by and don't want to start a war against the government if they can help it? It's not a desired outcome to force the government to behave, but sufficient pressure may make ut necessary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/14/18 5:00:47 PM #65:	RCtheWSBC posted... If armed civilians are supposed to organize the general population to rein in law enforcement, why isn't it happening on a larger scale? Obviously BLM movements are not doing enough, and has many detractors. It's not going to happen overnight. We really need to get the people together. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897804103] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>If armed civilians are supposed to organize the general population to rein in law enforcement, why isn't it happening on a larger scale? Obviously BLM movements are not doing enough, and has many detractors.</quote> It's not going to happen overnight. We really need to get the people together.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 03/14/18 5:00:52 PM #66:	Jen0125 posted... SmokeMassTree posted... It's almost like they have tried to change the 2nd amendment multiple times and failed it's almost like that doesn't matter because you can try to change it as many times as you want. i don't get people like you who don't understand the fucking constitution. the 2nd amendment was an amendment to the constitution. so you do understand they can alter that amendment or add a new amendment, right? so what's with the argument about the constitution? Yes that's how that works. I love how riled up you get over this subject. --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:897804107] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost like they have tried to change the 2nd amendment multiple times and failed</quote> it's almost like that doesn't matter because you can try to change it as many times as you want. i don't get people like you who don't understand the fucking constitution. the 2nd amendment was an amendment to the constitution. so you do understand they can alter that amendment or add a new amendment, right? so what's with the argument about the constitution?</quote> Yes that's how that works. I love how riled up you get over this subject.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/14/18 5:01:34 PM #67:	Kyuubi4269 posted... RCtheWSBC posted... Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility? Because they can scrape by and don't want to start a war against the government if they can help it? It's not a desired outcome to force the government to behave, but sufficient pressure may make ut necessary. Yeah, we want to make changes with peaceful protest. But it's only because of the threat of retaliation that the government would even bother to care about peaceful protest to begin with. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897804161] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility?</quote> Because they can scrape by and don't want to start a war against the government if they can help it? It's not a desired outcome to force the government to behave, but sufficient pressure may make ut necessary.</quote> Yeah, we want to make changes with peaceful protest. But it's only because of the threat of retaliation that the government would even bother to care about peaceful protest to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 03/14/18 5:02:01 PM #68:	RCtheWSBC posted... Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility? Yes. We have courts to deal with police brutality. --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:897804182] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility?</quote> Yes. We have courts to deal with police brutality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/14/18 5:02:52 PM #69:	SmokeMassTree posted... RCtheWSBC posted... Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility? Yes. We have courts to deal with police brutality. Which don't work. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897804244] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility?</quote> Yes. We have courts to deal with police brutality.</quote> Which don't work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 03/14/18 5:04:50 PM #70:	VioletZer0 posted... SmokeMassTree posted... RCtheWSBC posted... Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility? Yes. We have courts to deal with police brutality. Which don't work. I disagree. --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:897804371] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Police brutality is only worth fighting if they try to take firearms away? Law enforcement murders and imprisons innocent people. Why don't armed civilians take on a more concentrated effort to regulate law enforcement if that's their responsibility?</quote> Yes. We have courts to deal with police brutality.</quote> Which don't work.</quote> I disagree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/14/18 5:05:48 PM #71:	My entire point is that if the populace is disarmed, what reason does the government have not to kill protesters? It's been demonstrated that military forces are extremely susceptible to government propaganda and will definitely oblige killing protesters. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897804428] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>My entire point is that if the populace is disarmed, what reason does the government have not to kill protesters? It's been demonstrated that military forces are extremely susceptible to government propaganda and will definitely oblige killing protesters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/14/18 5:12:44 PM #72:	VioletZer0 posted... My entire point is that if the populace is disarmed, what reason does the government have not to kill protesters? because they're killing their citizens? this isn't a supreme dictatorship here. there are still consequences for killing people. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897804880] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>My entire point is that if the populace is disarmed, what reason does the government have not to kill protesters?</quote> because they're killing their citizens? this isn't a supreme dictatorship here. there are still consequences for killing people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 03/14/18 5:13:49 PM #73:	98VioletZer0 posted... My entire point is that if the populace is disarmed, what reason does the government have not to kill protesters? It's been demonstrated that military forces are extremely susceptible to government propaganda and will definitely oblige killing protesters. So you really think the only reason they don't shoot propel is because they are afraid of being shot at? Hahahhahahahhaha I can't believe people really believe this stuff. The government and police force aren't out to kill everyone and reign over us like it's the medieval ages lmao. Sure the government could but why would they? To rule is with a. Iron fist? Does anyone really believe all police and military personnel would just follow suit? They aren't robots and I am 100% sure it would never end up like that. Now I am all for guns and the right to bare arms. I am not saying to get rid them. But that isn't a real argument as to why we should. It is more likely that we get invaded by someone else before the government decides to go postal on us hahahaha As for the topic, dumbass should be fired and his gun license taken away. You never, ever ever ever, put your finger on the trigger unless your ready to shoot something, that is gun safety 101. It is designed to prevent this exact fuckin thing. The school should be reprimanded for not doing anything as well. The situation is terrible not just because the teacher injured another student but because the school carried on the day like nothing happened and went a student home injured. Like he got hurt at P.E. or something. The nurse, principle, and any faculty who knew the kid was injured should be fired. How do you have a kid walk around bloody like that? WTF!? --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:897804932] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>98<cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>My entire point is that if the populace is disarmed, what reason does the government have not to kill protesters? It's been demonstrated that military forces are extremely susceptible to government propaganda and will definitely oblige killing protesters.</quote> So you really think the only reason they don't shoot propel is because they are afraid of being shot at? Hahahhahahahhaha I can't believe people really believe this stuff. The government and police force aren't out to kill everyone and reign over us like it's the medieval ages lmao. Sure the government could but why would they? To rule is with a. Iron fist? Does anyone really believe all police and military personnel would just follow suit? They aren't robots and I am 100% sure it would never end up like that. Now I am all for guns and the right to bare arms. I am not saying to get rid them. But that isn't a real argument as to why we should. It is more likely that we get invaded by someone else before the government decides to go postal on us hahahaha As for the topic, dumbass should be fired and his gun license taken away. You never, ever ever ever, put your finger on the trigger unless your ready to shoot something, that is gun safety 101. It is designed to prevent this exact fuckin thing. The school should be reprimanded for not doing anything as well. The situation is terrible not just because the teacher injured another student but because the school carried on the day like nothing happened and went a student home injured. Like he got hurt at P.E. or something. The nurse, principle, and any faculty who knew the kid was injured should be fired. How do you have a kid walk around bloody like that? WTF!?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PaddysPub 03/14/18 5:19:09 PM #74:	the ridiculous jumps in logic by almost everyone in here are fucking hilarious and are the reason nothing is going to change --- Paddys Pub, home of the original Kitten Mittens! <cite>PaddysPub posted [p:897805229] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>the ridiculous jumps in logic by almost everyone in here are fucking hilarious and are the reason nothing is going to change</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darth_CiD 03/15/18 7:06:57 AM #75:	VioletZer0 posted... My entire point is that if the populace is disarmed, what reason does the government have not to kill protesters? It's been demonstrated that military forces are extremely susceptible to government propaganda and will definitely oblige killing protesters. Damn yeah, i remember all those protests in other 1st world countries where the general populace don't have access to guns...so many protesters were shot and killed by the government...oh wait, that is something that literally never happens in any other 1st world country. --- My official prediction for next generation as of 10th Sept 2016 11:12 am The headline buzz words will be "we have more flops than the other guys". <cite>Darth_CiD posted [p:897839160] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>My entire point is that if the populace is disarmed, what reason does the government have not to kill protesters? It's been demonstrated that military forces are extremely susceptible to government propaganda and will definitely oblige killing protesters.</quote> Damn yeah, i remember all those protests in other 1st world countries where the general populace don't have access to guns...so many protesters were shot and killed by the government...oh wait, that is something that literally never happens in any other 1st world country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sethera 03/15/18 7:38:40 AM #76:	A teacher accidentally discharged a firearm while teaching a public safety class That's golden. Also, why was the gun charged? --- The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force. Freedom of speech is words that they will bend. <cite>Sethera posted [p:897839894] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><quote>A teacher accidentally discharged a firearm while teaching a public safety class</quote> That's golden. Also, why was the gun charged?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 03/15/18 2:19:45 PM #77:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76415604 32 votes for yes, this headline is misleading 10 votes for no, it's not misleading --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (0-1): https://i.imgur.com/7cjNtgQ.png <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:897858253] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76415604 32 votes for yes, this headline is misleading 10 votes for no, it's not misleading</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/15/18 2:22:19 PM #78:	why would i give a single shit about what ce thinks --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897858410] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>why would i give a single shit about what ce thinks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 03/15/18 2:30:24 PM #79:	VioletZer0 posted... If civilians are disarmed, police officers are free to shoot civilians. Interesting. I never knew this. It's weird how police in other developed countries where they have tighter gun laws don't routinely massacre their citizens. In fact, if I'm reading these numbers right, it appears that the US has one of the highest police shooting rates in the entire developed world, killing more than 1000 each year while most other countries are in the low double digits and some don't even break the single digits. It's almost like the risk of facing someone with a gun makes the police more predisposed to using their own firearms to defend themselves rather than less. I wonder how they do it in those countries. Maybe they give the police chocolate milk if they don't kill anyone or something... I bet that would work. VioletZer0 posted... An armed populace is what allows a peaceful protest to even happen to begin with. Same with this one. It's odd, because I've seen peaceful protests happen in countries that have extremely tight gun laws and they end in neither a police massacre nor in the government completely ignoring things. Maybe they're all secretly armed and just not telling anybody... --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:897858875] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>If civilians are disarmed, police officers are free to shoot civilians.</quote> Interesting. I never knew this. It's weird how police in other developed countries where they have tighter gun laws don't routinely massacre their citizens. In fact, if I'm reading these numbers right, it appears that the US has one of the highest police shooting rates in the entire developed world, killing more than 1000 each year while most other countries are in the low double digits and some don't even break the single digits. It's almost like the risk of facing someone with a gun makes the police more predisposed to using their own firearms to defend themselves rather than less. I wonder how they do it in those countries. Maybe they give the police chocolate milk if they don't kill anyone or something... I bet that would work. <cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>An armed populace is what allows a peaceful protest to even happen to begin with.</quote> Same with this one. It's odd, because I've seen peaceful protests happen in countries that have extremely tight gun laws and they end in neither a police massacre nor in the government completely ignoring things. Maybe they're all secretly armed and just not telling anybody...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/15/18 2:32:06 PM #80:	Darth_CiD posted... Damn yeah, i remember all those protests in other 1st world countries where the general populace don't have access to guns...so many protesters were shot and killed by the government...oh wait, that is something that literally never happens in any other 1st world country. That can turn at any moment. Venezuela was a first world country a decade ago. Now look. Besides, being a rich country doesn't make us immune to corruption. It doesn't make us immune to power hungry politicians. We're not 1st world because we're "Better" than other countries. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897858963] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darth_CiD posted...</cite> <quote>Damn yeah, i remember all those protests in other 1st world countries where the general populace don't have access to guns...so many protesters were shot and killed by the government...oh wait, that is something that literally never happens in any other 1st world country.</quote> That can turn at any moment. Venezuela was a first world country a decade ago. Now look. Besides, being a rich country doesn't make us immune to corruption. It doesn't make us immune to power hungry politicians. We're not 1st world because we're "Better" than other countries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 03/15/18 2:35:51 PM #81:	VioletZer0 posted... That can turn at any moment. But never has. VioletZer0 posted... Venezuela was a first world country a decade ago. No, it wasn't. Venezuela has suffered under endemic corruption for decades - the only difference is that when oil prices were high they had the money to paper over it. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:897859186] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>That can turn at any moment. </quote> But never has. <cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>Venezuela was a first world country a decade ago. </quote> No, it wasn't. Venezuela has suffered under endemic corruption for decades - the only difference is that when oil prices were high they had the money to paper over it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/15/18 2:36:15 PM #82:	darkknight109 posted... Interesting. I never knew this. It's weird how police in other developed countries where they have tighter gun laws don't routinely massacre their citizens. In fact, if I'm reading these numbers right, it appears that the US has one of the highest police shooting rates in the entire developed world, killing more than 1000 each year while most other countries are in the low double digits and some don't even break the single digits. It's almost like the risk of facing someone with a gun makes the police more predisposed to using their own firearms to defend themselves rather than less. I wonder how they do it in those countries. Maybe they give the police chocolate milk if they don't kill anyone or something... I bet that would work. That's not going to stop because citizens are disarmed. Police want power over citizens. They want the power to kill citizens or not. Especially people of color. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897859211] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Interesting. I never knew this. It's weird how police in other developed countries where they have tighter gun laws don't routinely massacre their citizens. In fact, if I'm reading these numbers right, it appears that the US has one of the highest police shooting rates in the entire developed world, killing more than 1000 each year while most other countries are in the low double digits and some don't even break the single digits. It's almost like the risk of facing someone with a gun makes the police more predisposed to using their own firearms to defend themselves rather than less. I wonder how they do it in those countries. Maybe they give the police chocolate milk if they don't kill anyone or something... I bet that would work.</quote> That's not going to stop because citizens are disarmed. Police want power over citizens. They want the power to kill citizens or not. Especially people of color.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/15/18 2:38:54 PM #83:	"Oh we're just going to relinquish our power because citizens don't have power anymore" THIS HAS NEVER EVER HAPPENED Government only grows. It never gives up power when it has it. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897859378] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>"Oh we're just going to relinquish our power because citizens don't have power anymore" THIS HAS NEVER EVER HAPPENED Government only grows. It never gives up power when it has it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 03/15/18 2:56:35 PM #84:	Jen0125 posted... why would i give a single shit about what ce thinks doesn't matter it's an unbiased poll to an unbiased audience who has no knowledge of my motivation behind creating the topic --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (0-1): https://i.imgur.com/7cjNtgQ.png <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:897860463] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>why would i give a single shit about what ce thinks</quote> doesn't matter it's an unbiased poll to an unbiased audience who has no knowledge of my motivation behind creating the topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrunkCaveman 03/15/18 2:58:20 PM #85:	WastelandCowboy posted... Teacher accidentally fires gun, bullet fragments, and hits three kids. Class goes on as usual, kid goes home, father sees blood, and then gets medical attention and police intervention? In California? Northern California isn't very blue <cite>DrunkCaveman posted [p:897860588] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Teacher accidentally fires gun, bullet fragments, and hits three kids. Class goes on as usual, kid goes home, father sees blood, and then gets medical attention and police intervention? In California?</quote> Northern California isn't very blue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 03/15/18 3:05:27 PM #86:	Muffinz0rz posted... it's an unbiased poll to an unbiased audience who has no knowledge of my motivation behind creating the topic Lmao --- https://i.imgur.com/ymuEJsp.gif <cite>Blighboy posted [p:897861033] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>it's an unbiased poll to an unbiased audience who has no knowledge of my motivation behind creating the topic</quote> Lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 03/15/18 3:19:08 PM #87:	VioletZer0 posted... That's not going to stop because citizens are disarmed. Police want power over citizens. They want the power to kill citizens or not. Especially people of color. American police, maybe. You guys must have done a bad job of training them. Maybe you should fix that. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:897861871] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>That's not going to stop because citizens are disarmed. Police want power over citizens. They want the power to kill citizens or not. Especially people of color.</quote> American police, maybe. You guys must have done a bad job of training them. Maybe you should fix that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/15/18 3:21:57 PM #88:	darkknight109 posted... American police, maybe. You guys must have done a bad job of training them. Maybe you should fix that. Alright. Let's get to the point where government is trustworthy and then we'll talk about gun control. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897862065] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>American police, maybe. You guys must have done a bad job of training them. Maybe you should fix that.</quote> Alright. Let's get to the point where government is trustworthy and then we'll talk about gun control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 03/15/18 3:29:25 PM #89:	VioletZer0 posted... darkknight109 posted... American police, maybe. You guys must have done a bad job of training them. Maybe you should fix that. Alright. Let's get to the point where government is trustworthy and then we'll talk about gun control. I'm just saying, everyone else in the world has figured this out. America seems to be the kid at the back of the class insisting that the assignment is too hard while being completely clueless to the fact that everyone else has already finished it. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:897862584] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>American police, maybe. You guys must have done a bad job of training them. Maybe you should fix that.</quote> Alright. Let's get to the point where government is trustworthy and then we'll talk about gun control.</quote> I'm just saying, everyone else in the world has figured this out. America seems to be the kid at the back of the class insisting that the assignment is too hard while being completely clueless to the fact that everyone else has already finished it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/15/18 4:03:44 PM #90:	Muffinz0rz posted... doesn't matter yes you're right their opinion doesn't matter --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897864861] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>doesn't matter</quote> yes you're right their opinion doesn't matter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/15/18 4:23:23 PM #91:	darkknight109 posted... I'm just saying, everyone else in the world has figured this out. America seems to be the kid at the back of the class insisting that the assignment is too hard while being completely clueless to the fact that everyone else has already finished it. Do you think gun control would eliminate our political corruption? If not, what will? <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897866128] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm just saying, everyone else in the world has figured this out. America seems to be the kid at the back of the class insisting that the assignment is too hard while being completely clueless to the fact that everyone else has already finished it. </quote> Do you think gun control would eliminate our political corruption? If not, what will?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/15/18 4:33:08 PM #92:	One misconception that really makes my blood boil is the idea of "We're a developed nation so we're better than other nations" No, we're not. We are not even a little better than "underdeveloped nations." This is a massively racist idea. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897866737] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>One misconception that really makes my blood boil is the idea of "We're a developed nation so we're better than other nations" No, we're not. We are not even a little better than "underdeveloped nations." This is a massively racist idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dedbus 03/15/18 5:59:27 PM #93:	So this is like a dry erase board randomly falling on some kids but gunz I need my internet points! <cite>dedbus posted [p:897872260] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>So this is like a dry erase board randomly falling on some kids but gunz I need my internet points!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/15/18 5:59:53 PM #94:	do we get internet points on potd? --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897872287] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote>do we get internet points on potd?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 03/15/18 7:02:51 PM #95:	VioletZer0 posted... Do you think gun control would eliminate our political corruption? Well a lack of it certainly doesn't seem to have helped. The fact is gun control, or its absence, has no effect on corruption. The government in any society always controls vastly more power and resources than its citizenry - whether you have a gun or not, if the government decides they want to kill you they will succeed in doing so and there is nothing you can do about it. It's worth noting that every single political revolution since the time of the Industrial Revolution has only succeeded thanks to military support; not once has an armed populace ever risen up against a leader and their military and won that fight. But you're getting us off track - people don't advocate for gun control because they think it will solve political corruption, people advocate for gun control because it saves lives. The US has a soaring murder rate relative to the rest of the developed world and shows no signs of making any serious, mature steps to address it. VioletZer0 posted... If not, what will? Reducing the impact of lobbyists would be a huge step forward. Significant political reforms like revoking first-past-the-post and reducing the effects of gerrymandering would help too. Unfortunately, guns won't help you in accomplishing any of those goals. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:897876259] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think gun control would eliminate our political corruption?</quote> Well a lack of it certainly doesn't seem to have helped. The fact is gun control, or its absence, has no effect on corruption. The government in any society always controls vastly more power and resources than its citizenry - whether you have a gun or not, if the government decides they want to kill you they will succeed in doing so and there is nothing you can do about it. It's worth noting that every single political revolution since the time of the Industrial Revolution has only succeeded thanks to military support; not once has an armed populace ever risen up against a leader and their military and won that fight. But you're getting us off track - people don't advocate for gun control because they think it will solve political corruption, people advocate for gun control because it saves lives. The US has a soaring murder rate relative to the rest of the developed world and shows no signs of making any serious, mature steps to address it. <cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>If not, what will? </quote> Reducing the impact of lobbyists would be a huge step forward. Significant political reforms like revoking first-past-the-post and reducing the effects of gerrymandering would help too. Unfortunately, guns won't help you in accomplishing any of those goals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj4supervegeta 03/15/18 7:04:11 PM #96:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjhWf-9x7GM" data-time=" --- LoL summoner: Vejitables Wanna know why me rogers so jolly? hehe <cite>ssj4supervegeta posted [p:897876356] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjhWf-9x7GM" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/15/18 7:05:26 PM #97:	darkknight109 posted... Reducing the impact of lobbyists would be a huge step forward. Significant political reforms like revoking first-past-the-post and reducing the effects of gerrymandering would help too. preach --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897876428] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote> Reducing the impact of lobbyists would be a huge step forward. Significant political reforms like revoking first-past-the-post and reducing the effects of gerrymandering would help too. </quote> preach</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 03/16/18 12:09:42 PM #98:	darkknight109 posted... Well a lack of it certainly doesn't seem to have helped. The fact is gun control, or its absence, has no effect on corruption. The government in any society always controls vastly more power and resources than its citizenry - whether you have a gun or not, if the government decides they want to kill you they will succeed in doing so and there is nothing you can do about it. It's worth noting that every single political revolution since the time of the Industrial Revolution has only succeeded thanks to military support; not once has an armed populace ever risen up against a leader and their military and won that fight. But you're getting us off track - people don't advocate for gun control because they think it will solve political corruption, people advocate for gun control because it saves lives. The US has a soaring murder rate relative to the rest of the developed world and shows no signs of making any serious, mature steps to address it. First of all "The government in any society always controls vastly more power and resources than its citizenry" This is straight up wrong. The government may tangentially control the resources, but the resources are directly in the hands of the people. And besides, the greatest resource of all is human capital. Of which the people have far more of than the government. Second, you underestimate just how powerful the people really are if they decided to rebel against the government. The government is only as strong as their ability to control the people. If the people rebel, they have no power. Tanks, warships, drones, etc are worthless without the capable hands to man them. And no you don't get to dictate what our side of the argument is. Making sure that the government never usurps the people is why we have guns to begin with, and that has not changed. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:897914758] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Well a lack of it certainly doesn't seem to have helped. The fact is gun control, or its absence, has no effect on corruption. The government in any society always controls vastly more power and resources than its citizenry - whether you have a gun or not, if the government decides they want to kill you they will succeed in doing so and there is nothing you can do about it. It's worth noting that every single political revolution since the time of the Industrial Revolution has only succeeded thanks to military support; not once has an armed populace ever risen up against a leader and their military and won that fight. But you're getting us off track - people don't advocate for gun control because they think it will solve political corruption, people advocate for gun control because it saves lives. The US has a soaring murder rate relative to the rest of the developed world and shows no signs of making any serious, mature steps to address it. </quote> First of all "The government in any society always controls vastly more power and resources than its citizenry" This is straight up wrong. The government may tangentially control the resources, but the resources are directly in the hands of the people. And besides, the greatest resource of all is human capital. Of which the people have far more of than the government. Second, you underestimate just how powerful the people really are if they decided to rebel against the government. The government is only as strong as their ability to control the people. If the people rebel, they have no power. Tanks, warships, drones, etc are worthless without the capable hands to man them. And no you don't get to dictate what our side of the argument is. Making sure that the government never usurps the people is why we have guns to begin with, and that has not changed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 03/16/18 12:25:30 PM #99:	VioletZer0 posted... Second, you underestimate just how powerful the people really are if they decided to rebel against the government. The government is only as strong as their ability to control the people. If the people rebel, they have no power. Tanks, warships, drones, etc are worthless without the capable hands to man them. And no you don't get to dictate what our side of the argument is. Making sure that the government never usurps the people is why we have guns to begin with, and that has not changed. Downside to this is that those who man the tanks, warships, drones, etc would, most likely, follow orders and those orders would stem from their superiors and ultimately, the President of the United States. If they disobey, they would likely face some disciplinary action for dereliction of duty or a whole host of other terms (depending on the scenario). Article 99 of the UCMJ calls out a bunch of behavior that could be punished. A severe penalty could even be death. One of the strong points of their training is the mindset to be a part of a team, a chain of command, to not disobey a direct command. If they're facing an uprising of civilians, they'll either have to A) Obey their command and detain/kill civilians or B) Disobey their command and rebel. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:897915583] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>VioletZer0 posted...</cite> <quote>Second, you underestimate just how powerful the people really are if they decided to rebel against the government. The government is only as strong as their ability to control the people. If the people rebel, they have no power. Tanks, warships, drones, etc are worthless without the capable hands to man them. And no you don't get to dictate what our side of the argument is. Making sure that the government never usurps the people is why we have guns to begin with, and that has not changed.</quote> Downside to this is that those who man the tanks, warships, drones, etc would, most likely, follow orders and those orders would stem from their superiors and ultimately, the President of the United States. If they disobey, they would likely face some disciplinary action for dereliction of duty or a whole host of other terms (depending on the scenario). Article 99 of the UCMJ calls out a bunch of behavior that could be punished. A severe penalty could even be death. One of the strong points of their training is the mindset to be a part of a team, a chain of command, to not disobey a direct command. If they're facing an uprising of civilians, they'll either have to A) Obey their command and detain/kill civilians or B) Disobey their command and rebel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 03/16/18 1:14:44 PM #100:	Jen0125 posted... i like the video of the cop at the elementary school doing a demonstration about gun safety and then he shot himself in his foot lmao Its like people think one day we will be able to prevent all accidents from ever happening. Are we wanting to take peoples property becauss I few have accidents or because a few misuse their property to jarm others? Even still why do a few bad apples mean we have to burn down the whole orchard? --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqscensorship.blogspot.com <cite>bulbinking posted [p:897918277] in California... [t:76415250]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i like the video of the cop at the elementary school doing a demonstration about gun safety and then he shot himself in his foot lmao</quote> Its like people think one day we will be able to prevent all accidents from ever happening. Are we wanting to take peoples property becauss I few have accidents or because a few misuse their property to jarm others? Even still why do a few bad apples mean we have to burn down the whole orchard?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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