Poll of the Day > how do people who support trump justify his appointments for cabinet?

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Jen0125 03/14/18 1:09:12 PM #1:	like.. he just named a cnbc analyst to head the national economic council larry kudlow has a BA in history from 1969 what qualifications does he even have to justify that appointment --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897789984] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>like.. he just named a cnbc analyst to head the national economic council larry kudlow has a BA in history from 1969 what qualifications does he even have to justify that appointment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rjsilverthorn 03/14/18 1:12:27 PM #3:	If you can overlook Trump's qualifications to be president, anything else is easy. <cite>rjsilverthorn posted [p:897790181] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>If you can overlook Trump's qualifications to be president, anything else is easy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edededdy 03/14/18 1:22:11 PM #4:	@TheWorstPoster --- Voted best user on CE 2017 hahahahah lmfao <cite>edededdy posted [p:897790773] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>@TheWorstPoster</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 03/14/18 1:24:19 PM #5:	@Zeus @SmokeMassTree --- "when in the f* did i ever make claims to be anything other than a troll? seriously. name me one f*ing time." - schmen,trollpolice,noopnoop 3/5/18 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:897790887] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>@Zeus @SmokeMassTree</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 03/14/18 1:25:30 PM #6:	They decided at one point they will support him no matter what and put blinders on --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:897790960] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>They decided at one point they will support him no matter what and put blinders on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kigalas 03/14/18 1:30:11 PM #7:	Conservatives see academia as one of the evils of this world so any rational sort of qualifications, like being a professor of constitutional history, are seen as a negative thing. It goes back to the old my ignorance is just as good as your intelligence thread thats run through our country since its inception. --- Playing: GTA:SA - 82.89%, FFVIII - Disc 2: Upgrading weapons. Next up: FFII, GTA:VC, Dragon Quest V <cite>Kigalas posted [p:897791251] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>Conservatives see academia as one of the evils of this world so any rational sort of qualifications, like being a professor of constitutional history, are seen as a negative thing. It goes back to the old my ignorance is just as good as your intelligence thread thats run through our country since its inception.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 03/14/18 1:31:31 PM #8:	Kigalas posted... Conservatives see academia as one of the evils of this world so any rational sort of qualifications, like being a professor of constitutional history, are seen as a negative thing. It goes back to the old my ignorance is just as good as your intelligence thread thats run through our country since its inception. Educated people think theyre better than me, I dont need knowledge to know that Im right --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:897791343] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kigalas posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives see academia as one of the evils of this world so any rational sort of qualifications, like being a professor of constitutional history, are seen as a negative thing. It goes back to the old my ignorance is just as good as your intelligence thread thats run through our country since its inception.</quote> Educated people think theyre better than me, I dont need knowledge to know that Im right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 03/14/18 1:32:58 PM #9:	He isn't Hilary --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:897791437] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>He isn't Hilary </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mastermix3000 03/14/18 1:35:55 PM #10:	I get more annoyed at the people who KNOW he is fucking everything up but everyone just goes to work and act like he isn't screwing us up Freedom of choice I guess. Also raises the question if what he is doing is so bad why haven't the people changed it already lol --- https://i.imgur.com/SJYOqAO.gif <cite>mastermix3000 posted [p:897791611] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>I get more annoyed at the people who KNOW he is fucking everything up but everyone just goes to work and act like he isn't screwing us up Freedom of choice I guess. Also raises the question if what he is doing is so bad why haven't the people changed it already lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/14/18 6:55:17 PM #11:	SunWuKung420 posted... @Zeus @SmokeMassTree Given I don't support Trump, I'm not sure why you're dragging me into this, @SunWuKung420 Otherwise, most of his appointments are on par with other presidential appointees. People were making a big deal about Linda McMahon leading the Small Business Administration, yet the woman Obama appointed to head it was a far less tenured CEO. That's not to say that there aren't some baffling choices --- like tapping Carson to head the HUD -- but all presidents have head-scratchers and most administrations aren't scrutinized. I'd wager that most people can name more Trump cabinet members than they can name members from all previous cabinets combined. Honestly, the majority of his choices aren't terribly controversial -- many are long-time politicians or come from relevant fields. The only ones that people might legitimately question are Ben Carson and Devoss, neither of whom has a political background nor expertise in the area (and Carson isn't even a "swamp" issue, he's just a WTF choice). I mean, ffs, David Shulkan -- the VA Secretary -- was the VA under-secretary before that. How the fuck can you get less controversial than that? Kigalas posted... Conservatives see academia as one of the evils of this world so any rational sort of qualifications, like being a professor of constitutional history, are seen as a negative thing. Overlooking that Obama tried to appoint completely unqualified individuals as well (such as ambassadors who had never even visited the nations they were going to represent), there's no real boon when it comes to most academics although, I should note, that Ben Carson has a doctorate so.... yeah. As for why Republicans might appoint fewer academics, it's because there are fewer conservatives in academia -- partly by design (since liberal academics tenure-track other liberals) and partly because conservatives tend to be attracted to more lucrative fields. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:897810681] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>@Zeus @SmokeMassTree</quote> Given I don't support Trump, I'm not sure why you're dragging me into this, @SunWuKung420 Otherwise, most of his appointments are on par with other presidential appointees. People were making a big deal about Linda McMahon leading the Small Business Administration, yet the woman Obama appointed to head it was a far less tenured CEO. That's not to say that there aren't some baffling choices --- like tapping Carson to head the HUD -- but all presidents have head-scratchers and most administrations aren't scrutinized. I'd wager that most people can name more Trump cabinet members than they can name members from all previous cabinets combined. Honestly, the majority of his choices aren't terribly controversial -- many are long-time politicians or come from relevant fields. The only ones that people might legitimately question are Ben Carson and Devoss, neither of whom has a political background nor expertise in the area (and Carson isn't even a "swamp" issue, he's just a WTF choice). I mean, ffs, David Shulkan -- the VA Secretary -- was the VA under-secretary before that. How the fuck can you get less controversial than that? <cite>Kigalas posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives see academia as one of the evils of this world so any rational sort of qualifications, like being a professor of constitutional history, are seen as a negative thing.</quote> Overlooking that Obama tried to appoint completely unqualified individuals as well (such as ambassadors who had never even visited the nations they were going to represent), there's no real boon when it comes to most academics although, I should note, that Ben Carson has a doctorate so.... yeah. As for why Republicans might appoint fewer academics, it's because there are fewer conservatives in academia -- partly by design (since liberal academics tenure-track other liberals) and partly because conservatives tend to be attracted to more lucrative fields.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 03/14/18 7:03:27 PM #12:	Kigalas posted... Conservatives see academia as one of the evils of this world so any rational sort of qualifications I'm not a conservative but this isn't really true. I think a lot of conservatives and myself view education positively but disagree with the way universities are currently run and the way liberal arts professors by and large encourage 18 year olds that don't know shit about the world to be political activists instead of simply educating themselves and sorting out their own lives. Universities should simply be about education and not an outlet for your sociology professor to push their views on you <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:897811171] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kigalas posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives see academia as one of the evils of this world so any rational sort of qualifications</quote> I'm not a conservative but this isn't really true. I think a lot of conservatives and myself view education positively but disagree with the way universities are currently run and the way liberal arts professors by and large encourage 18 year olds that don't know shit about the world to be political activists instead of simply educating themselves and sorting out their own lives. Universities should simply be about education and not an outlet for your sociology professor to push their views on you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 03/14/18 7:05:09 PM #13:	Zeus posted... Honestly, the majority of his choices aren't terribly controversial -- many are long-time politicians or come from relevant fields. People are too busy reading CNN headlines and getting angry to think critically <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:897811251] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, the majority of his choices aren't terribly controversial -- many are long-time politicians or come from relevant fields.</quote> People are too busy reading CNN headlines and getting angry to think critically</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TigerTycoon 03/14/18 7:06:02 PM #14:	They don't support it they just don't care. The amount of power and influence Trump has is extremely exaggerated as he can't really do anything meaningful since he's at war with every other branch of the government and every other politician. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! <cite>TigerTycoon posted [p:897811311] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>They don't support it they just don't care. The amount of power and influence Trump has is extremely exaggerated as he can't really do anything meaningful since he's at war with every other branch of the government and every other politician.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cruddy_horse 03/14/18 7:11:56 PM #15:	rjsilverthorn posted... If you can overlook Trump's qualifications to be president, anything else is easy. This, I also doubt a significant amount of his supporters understand Government things like this anyway. --- equo ne credite! <cite>Cruddy_horse posted [p:897811637] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>rjsilverthorn posted...</cite> <quote>If you can overlook Trump's qualifications to be president, anything else is easy.</quote> This, I also doubt a significant amount of his supporters understand Government things like this anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightengale 03/14/18 7:19:18 PM #16:	What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now? --- It would not be much of a universe if it wasn't home to the people you love. - Stephen Hawking <cite>Nightengale posted [p:897812003] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 03/14/18 7:27:41 PM #17:	Nightengale posted... What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now? I know that identity politics is all the rage and it's fun to put people in neat little groups... and it's also tempting to make everything us vs them when someone disagrees with you but having one opinion in common with one group doesn't actually put you in that particular group. My belief in evolution, climate change, and being pro choice for instance are things that i probably have in common with you but I definitely would never group myself with someone like you <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:897812516] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nightengale posted...</cite> <quote>What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now?</quote> I know that identity politics is all the rage and it's fun to put people in neat little groups... and it's also tempting to make everything us vs them when someone disagrees with you but having one opinion in common with one group doesn't actually put you in that particular group. My belief in evolution, climate change, and being pro choice for instance are things that i probably have in common with you but I definitely would never group myself with someone like you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 03/14/18 7:28:20 PM #18:	The far right tends to be anti-education, Trump himself is anti-education it's why he appointed a education secretary who has the goal to direct education funds away from public schools and into christian charter schools. They are also very anti-establishment, the whole goal of Trump was to "shake things up". And this is the key point being educated and qualified is not a plus. It's actually a detriment. They see it as elitist as part of the "deep state". They legitimately think Trump and his scum are better due to their lack of qualifications because they don't like the federal government in the first place. They like seeing the EPA, HUD, State Department and so forth being destroyed and they LOVE liberals being mad. You need to understand that trying to understand why they do things is impossible from your point of view. These last two years of debating with Trump supporters has taught me that it is impossible. We live in different realities. We live in the fact based world, they live in a post fact world. The differences between us aren't merely disagreements but how we perceive the world around us. Nightengale posted... What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now? They are "woke independents". Typically the conservatives who claim to be independent trend towards the alt right and don't like republican establishment for being too liberal. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:897812567] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>The far right tends to be anti-education, Trump himself is anti-education it's why he appointed a education secretary who has the goal to direct education funds away from public schools and into christian charter schools. They are also very anti-establishment, the whole goal of Trump was to "shake things up". And this is the key point being educated and qualified is not a plus. It's actually a detriment. They see it as elitist as part of the "deep state". They legitimately think Trump and his scum are better due to their lack of qualifications because they don't like the federal government in the first place. They like seeing the EPA, HUD, State Department and so forth being destroyed and they LOVE liberals being mad. You need to understand that trying to understand why they do things is impossible from your point of view. These last two years of debating with Trump supporters has taught me that it is impossible. We live in different realities. We live in the fact based world, they live in a post fact world. The differences between us aren't merely disagreements but how we perceive the world around us. <cite>Nightengale posted...</cite> <quote>What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now?</quote> They are "woke independents". Typically the conservatives who claim to be independent trend towards the alt right and don't like republican establishment for being too liberal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 03/14/18 7:39:01 PM #19:	BlackScythe0 posted... They are "woke independents". Typically the conservatives who claim to be independent trend towards the alt right and don't like republican establishment for being too liberal. This is so dumb and uninformed its unbelievable. First off, there's nothing wrong with being independent. It means you're capable of thinking for yourself and don't feel compelled to group yourself with some kind of hivemind because it's honestly weird to just choose a group and align all of your views to match theirs (and even evolve with the group in most cases). Secondly, I don't think many right leaning independents think that republicans are too liberal. I think most are annoyed by the bible thumping bullshit and science denial that goes hand in hand with being republican <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:897813244] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>They are "woke independents". Typically the conservatives who claim to be independent trend towards the alt right and don't like republican establishment for being too liberal.</quote> This is so dumb and uninformed its unbelievable. First off, there's nothing wrong with being independent. It means you're capable of thinking for yourself and don't feel compelled to group yourself with some kind of hivemind because it's honestly weird to just choose a group and align all of your views to match theirs (and even evolve with the group in most cases). Secondly, I don't think many right leaning independents think that republicans are too liberal. I think most are annoyed by the bible thumping bullshit and science denial that goes hand in hand with being republican</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 03/14/18 7:47:52 PM #20:	The spin that fox and other "news" providers are putting on this week is pretty ridiculous. <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:897813723] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>The spin that fox and other "news" providers are putting on this week is pretty ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightengale 03/14/18 7:49:55 PM #21:	OhhhJa posted... Nightengale posted... What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now? I know that identity politics is all the rage and it's fun to put people in neat little groups... and it's also tempting to make everything us vs them when someone disagrees with you but having one opinion in common with one group doesn't actually put you in that particular group. My belief in evolution, climate change, and being pro choice for instance are things that i probably have in common with you but I definitely would never group myself with someone like you I didnt even mention you. My, awfully jumpy, arent we? --- It would not be much of a universe if it wasn't home to the people you love. - Stephen Hawking <cite>Nightengale posted [p:897813833] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nightengale posted...</cite> <quote>What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now?</quote> I know that identity politics is all the rage and it's fun to put people in neat little groups... and it's also tempting to make everything us vs them when someone disagrees with you but having one opinion in common with one group doesn't actually put you in that particular group. My belief in evolution, climate change, and being pro choice for instance are things that i probably have in common with you but I definitely would never group myself with someone like you</quote> I didnt even mention you. My, awfully jumpy, arent we?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 03/14/18 7:55:44 PM #22:	Nightengale posted... OhhhJa posted... Nightengale posted... What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now? I know that identity politics is all the rage and it's fun to put people in neat little groups... and it's also tempting to make everything us vs them when someone disagrees with you but having one opinion in common with one group doesn't actually put you in that particular group. My belief in evolution, climate change, and being pro choice for instance are things that i probably have in common with you but I definitely would never group myself with someone like you I didnt even mention you. My, awfully jumpy, arent we? Pretty obvious you wete referencing me with the the part in my post about not being conservative but keep trolling <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:897814196] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nightengale posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nightengale posted...</cite> <quote>What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now?</quote> I know that identity politics is all the rage and it's fun to put people in neat little groups... and it's also tempting to make everything us vs them when someone disagrees with you but having one opinion in common with one group doesn't actually put you in that particular group. My belief in evolution, climate change, and being pro choice for instance are things that i probably have in common with you but I definitely would never group myself with someone like you</quote> I didnt even mention you. My, awfully jumpy, arent we?</quote> Pretty obvious you wete referencing me with the the part in my post about not being conservative but keep trolling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 03/14/18 8:00:08 PM #23:	OhhhJa posted... Pretty obvious you wete referencing me with the the part in my post about not being conservative but keep trolling She is describing a trend she had noticed... Just because a comment you made reminded her of that, doesn't mean she was targeting you specifically. Chill. --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:897814427] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty obvious you wete referencing me with the the part in my post about not being conservative but keep trolling</quote> She is describing a trend she had noticed... Just because a comment you made reminded her of that, doesn't mean she was targeting you specifically. Chill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 03/14/18 8:01:11 PM #24:	OhhhJa posted... BlackScythe0 posted... They are "woke independents". Typically the conservatives who claim to be independent trend towards the alt right and don't like republican establishment for being too liberal. This is so dumb and uninformed its unbelievable. First off, there's nothing wrong with being independent. It means you're capable of thinking for yourself and don't feel compelled to group yourself with some kind of hivemind because it's honestly weird to just choose a group and align all of your views to match theirs (and even evolve with the group in most cases). Secondly, I don't think many right leaning independents think that republicans are too liberal. I think most are annoyed by the bible thumping bullshit and science denial that goes hand in hand with being republican It's very much the impression I get. You don't like it? Then I can honestly say I'd prefer what your impressions of it are. But I haven't seen that. I haven't seen rejection of the republican party by conservatives due to their hostility to science. What I have seen is people super upset at the republican establishment for perceived unwillingness to do the bidding of Trump. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:897814485] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>They are "woke independents". Typically the conservatives who claim to be independent trend towards the alt right and don't like republican establishment for being too liberal.</quote> This is so dumb and uninformed its unbelievable. First off, there's nothing wrong with being independent. It means you're capable of thinking for yourself and don't feel compelled to group yourself with some kind of hivemind because it's honestly weird to just choose a group and align all of your views to match theirs (and even evolve with the group in most cases). Secondly, I don't think many right leaning independents think that republicans are too liberal. I think most are annoyed by the bible thumping bullshit and science denial that goes hand in hand with being republican</quote> It's very much the impression I get. You don't like it? Then I can honestly say I'd prefer what your impressions of it are. But I haven't seen that. I haven't seen rejection of the republican party by conservatives due to their hostility to science. What I have seen is people super upset at the republican establishment for perceived unwillingness to do the bidding of Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarGreymon77 03/14/18 8:48:01 PM #25:	Whomever he chooses is still more qualified than John McCain, Nancy Pelosi, and the other entrenched, lifetime-serving fools in Congress. --- Creator of the official Digimon: Digital Monsters community board! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1430-digimon-digital-monsters <cite>WarGreymon77 posted [p:897816806] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>Whomever he chooses is still more qualified than John McCain, Nancy Pelosi, and the other entrenched, lifetime-serving fools in Congress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 03/14/18 9:05:31 PM #26:	BlackScythe0 posted... It's very much the impression I get. You don't like it? Then I can honestly say I'd prefer what your impressions of it are. But I haven't seen that. I haven't seen rejection of the republican party by conservatives due to their hostility to science. What I have seen is people super upset at the republican establishment for perceived unwillingness to do the bidding of Trump. I feel like that's more of what we see from a vocal minority on the internet and in the news but just about every libertarian or right leaning independent I've encountered is far more progressively minded than any republican <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:897817775] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>It's very much the impression I get. You don't like it? Then I can honestly say I'd prefer what your impressions of it are. But I haven't seen that. I haven't seen rejection of the republican party by conservatives due to their hostility to science. What I have seen is people super upset at the republican establishment for perceived unwillingness to do the bidding of Trump.</quote> I feel like that's more of what we see from a vocal minority on the internet and in the news but just about every libertarian or right leaning independent I've encountered is far more progressively minded than any republican</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/14/18 9:42:55 PM #27:	WarGreymon77 posted... Whomever he chooses is still more qualified than John McCain, Nancy Pelosi, and the other entrenched, lifetime-serving fools in Congress. Lmao okay. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897819901] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>WarGreymon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Whomever he chooses is still more qualified than John McCain, Nancy Pelosi, and the other entrenched, lifetime-serving fools in Congress.</quote> Lmao okay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/14/18 9:46:30 PM #28:	Nightengale posted... What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now? You labeling people conservative doesn't make them conservative. BlackScythe0 posted... The far right tends to be anti-education, Trump himself is anti-education it's why he appointed a education secretary who has the goal to direct education funds away from public schools and into christian charter schools. They are also very anti-establishment, the whole goal of Trump was to "shake things up". Given how terrible our public schools are, charter schools of any kind might be a step in the right direction. I'm in one of the "good education" states and our high school was graduating people who didn't know basic facts about WWII (I sometimes joke that one student thought Mussolini was a pasta dish, but really she might have thought he was a city). As for Trump being "far-right," most of that just seems to be for show. He's a New Yorker and, outside of a few areas, seems to have a lot of NY leftist values. During the primaries, he was one of the only Republicans to suggest that the ACA might not be a bad thing (which put him apart from Ted Cruz and the "moderate" Marco Rubio) BlackScythe0 posted... And this is the key point being educated and qualified is not a plus. It's actually a detriment. They see it as elitist as part of the "deep state". They legitimately think Trump and his scum are better due to their lack of qualifications because they don't like the federal government in the first place. They like seeing the EPA, HUD, State Department and so forth being destroyed and they LOVE liberals being mad. The problem there is that you fundamentally misunderstand groups like the Tea Party who are more protesting the status quo than anything else. They're more reactionary conservatives than far-right conservatives and, I should mention, they've backed college professors. As for the groups who like seeing those government departments hurt, that's more of a libertarian thing (as they want to want to see many of those departments gone) and they also aren't far right. BlackScythe0 posted... You need to understand that trying to understand why they do things is impossible from your point of view. These last two years of debating with Trump supporters has taught me that it is impossible. We live in different realities. We live in the fact based world, they live in a post fact world. The differences between us aren't merely disagreements but how we perceive the world around us. ....he says without the slightest trace of irony or self-awareness. Your inability to check your preconceptions and biases (or rather, media-fed preconceptions and biases) is why you don't understand the camp and why Trump very well may get re-elected. Trump primarily appealed to disenfranchised voters, similar to the Tea Party (and to a lesser extent the Occupy Wall Street) base where a large segment of voters (rather rightly) saw that the system we have quite simply hasn't been working and the people we've been sending just represent more of the same. It's pretty much the same reason why Bernie Sanders so popular -- traditional partisan politics has led us to a failed solution so outsiders look more attractive. BlackScythe0 posted... They are "woke independents". Typically the conservatives who claim to be independent trend towards the alt right and don't like republican establishment for being too liberal. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:897820099] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nightengale posted...</cite> <quote>What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now?</quote> You labeling people conservative doesn't make them conservative. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>The far right tends to be anti-education, Trump himself is anti-education it's why he appointed a education secretary who has the goal to direct education funds away from public schools and into christian charter schools. They are also very anti-establishment, the whole goal of Trump was to "shake things up".</quote> Given how terrible our public schools are, charter schools of any kind might be a step in the right direction. I'm in one of the "good education" states and our high school was graduating people who didn't know basic facts about WWII (I sometimes joke that one student thought Mussolini was a pasta dish, but really she might have thought he was a city). As for Trump being "far-right," most of that just seems to be for show. He's a New Yorker and, outside of a few areas, seems to have a lot of NY leftist values. During the primaries, he was one of the only Republicans to suggest that the ACA might not be a bad thing (which put him apart from Ted Cruz and the "moderate" Marco Rubio) <cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>And this is the key point being educated and qualified is not a plus. It's actually a detriment. They see it as elitist as part of the "deep state". They legitimately think Trump and his scum are better due to their lack of qualifications because they don't like the federal government in the first place. They like seeing the EPA, HUD, State Department and so forth being destroyed and they LOVE liberals being mad.</quote> The problem there is that you fundamentally misunderstand groups like the Tea Party who are more protesting the status quo than anything else. They're more reactionary conservatives than far-right conservatives and, I should mention, they've backed college professors. As for the groups who like seeing those government departments hurt, that's more of a libertarian thing (as they want to want to see many of those departments gone) and they also aren't far right. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>You need to understand that trying to understand why they do things is impossible from your point of view. These last two years of debating with Trump supporters has taught me that it is impossible. We live in different realities. We live in the fact based world, they live in a post fact world. The differences between us aren't merely disagreements but how we perceive the world around us. </quote> ....he says without the slightest trace of irony or self-awareness. Your inability to check your preconceptions and biases (or rather, media-fed preconceptions and biases) is why you don't understand the camp and why Trump very well may get re-elected. Trump primarily appealed to disenfranchised voters, similar to the Tea Party (and to a lesser extent the Occupy Wall Street) base where a large segment of voters (rather rightly) saw that the system we have quite simply hasn't been working and the people we've been sending just represent more of the same. It's pretty much the same reason why Bernie Sanders so popular -- traditional partisan politics has led us to a failed solution so outsiders look more attractive. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>They are "woke independents". Typically the conservatives who claim to be independent trend towards the alt right and don't like republican establishment for being too liberal.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tluhdatsi 03/14/18 9:50:00 PM #29:	Larry Kudlow is a smart guy, and really knows his stuff when it comes to economics. I know this because he has a radio show with a focus on economics that plays in my local market. I hear it from time to time, and a lot of his predictions actually do come to pass. I don't agree with the guy on everything, and I think his show is a bit on the boring side, but he does tend to know what he's talking about. Incidentally, if you really don't like Trump, you should probably welcome Kudlow coming aboard. He's big on free trade, and he's basically okay with more open-borders policies because they ultimately improve the bottom line for big corporations. He might thus serve as a more moderate voice within the administration when it comes to immigration and tariffs. --- Make your Vita great again, with this classy and luxurious wallpaper! Really, the best wallpaper. Just ask anyone! http://imgur.com/a/3omLj <cite>Tluhdatsi posted [p:897820272] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>Larry Kudlow is a smart guy, and really knows his stuff when it comes to economics. I know this because he has a radio show with a focus on economics that plays in my local market. I hear it from time to time, and a lot of his predictions actually do come to pass. I don't agree with the guy on everything, and I think his show is a bit on the boring side, but he does tend to know what he's talking about. Incidentally, if you really don't like Trump, you should probably welcome Kudlow coming aboard. He's big on free trade, and he's basically okay with more open-borders policies because they ultimately improve the bottom line for big corporations. He might thus serve as a more moderate voice within the administration when it comes to immigration and tariffs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightengale 03/14/18 9:59:09 PM #30:	Zeus posted... You labeling people conservative doesn't make them conservative. That's right. Their positions on issues and their support for candidates do. --- It would not be much of a universe if it wasn't home to the people you love. - Stephen Hawking <cite>Nightengale posted [p:897820801] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>You labeling people conservative doesn't make them conservative. </quote> That's right. Their positions on issues and their support for candidates do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kungfu Kenobi 03/14/18 10:11:54 PM #31:	Nightengale posted... What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now? You mean the real, no fooling around, actual liberals who've been thrown under the bus by the Democrats in favor of a radical Social Justice agenda that's as anti-justice as it is demonstrably anti-social? Those "conservatives" are basically the new Punk. --- This album is not available to the public. Even if it were, you wouldn't wanna listen to it! <cite>Kungfu Kenobi posted [p:897821438] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nightengale posted...</cite> <quote>What is this thing with conservatives insisting theyre not conservatives? Is it because its really not vogue at all to be conservative right now?</quote> You mean the real, no fooling around, actual liberals who've been thrown under the bus by the Democrats in favor of a radical Social Justice agenda that's as anti-justice as it is demonstrably anti-social? Those "conservatives" are basically the new Punk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tluhdatsi 03/14/18 10:12:03 PM #32:	Incidentally, I can totally see how a guy who earned a BA in History 50 years ago might be more knowledgeable on economics than some wet-behind-the-ears kid who'll be getting a Master's Degree in Economics three months from now. First off, there's definitely something to be said for fifty years of real-world experience. Secondly... yeah, the education system has really deteriorated that much since then. --- Make your Vita great again, with this classy and luxurious wallpaper! Really, the best wallpaper. Just ask anyone! http://imgur.com/a/3omLj <cite>Tluhdatsi posted [p:897821444] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>Incidentally, I can totally see how a guy who earned a BA in History 50 years ago might be more knowledgeable on economics than some wet-behind-the-ears kid who'll be getting a Master's Degree in Economics three months from now. First off, there's definitely something to be said for fifty years of real-world experience. Secondly... yeah, the education system has really deteriorated that much since then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 03/14/18 10:14:30 PM #33:	Zeus posted... Given I don't support Trump Yeah, we see you --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:897821575] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Given I don't support Trump</quote> Yeah, we see you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/14/18 10:15:36 PM #34:	I don't support Trump I just defend every single thing he does - Zeus --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897821633] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>I don't support Trump I just defend every single thing he does - Zeus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightengale 03/14/18 10:16:50 PM #35:	Kungfu Kenobi posted... Those "conservatives" are basically the new Punk. oh good golly --- It would not be much of a universe if it wasn't home to the people you love. - Stephen Hawking <cite>Nightengale posted [p:897821705] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kungfu Kenobi posted...</cite> <quote> Those "conservatives" are basically the new Punk. </quote> oh good golly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 03/14/18 10:21:21 PM #36:	Jen0125 posted... like.. he just named a cnbc analyst to head the national economic council larry kudlow has a BA in history from 1969 what qualifications does he even have to justify that appointment Like did you see the Obama's list if accomplishments before becoming president? This is business as usual. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqscensorship.blogspot.com <cite>bulbinking posted [p:897821948] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>like.. he just named a cnbc analyst to head the national economic council larry kudlow has a BA in history from 1969 what qualifications does he even have to justify that appointment</quote> Like did you see the Obama's list if accomplishments before becoming president? This is business as usual.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/14/18 10:37:08 PM #37:	bulbinking posted... Jen0125 posted... like.. he just named a cnbc analyst to head the national economic council larry kudlow has a BA in history from 1969 what qualifications does he even have to justify that appointment Like did you see the Obama's list if accomplishments before becoming president? This is business as usual. Uh yeah. He's actually very accomplished personally as a civil rights attorney, taught constitutional law and he was a congressional senator and a state senator. He also was the first black leader of the Harvard Law Review. So he had more applicable experience than 90% of the people that are being appointed in this presidency. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897822765] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>like.. he just named a cnbc analyst to head the national economic council larry kudlow has a BA in history from 1969 what qualifications does he even have to justify that appointment</quote> Like did you see the Obama's list if accomplishments before becoming president? This is business as usual.</quote> Uh yeah. He's actually very accomplished personally as a civil rights attorney, taught constitutional law and he was a congressional senator and a state senator. He also was the first black leader of the Harvard Law Review. So he had more applicable experience than 90% of the people that are being appointed in this presidency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 03/14/18 10:58:39 PM #38:	I don't support government "appointments". All positions should be voted in, even if it's internalized voting --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:897823802] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>I don't support government "appointments". All positions should be voted in, even if it's internalized voting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 03/14/18 11:47:37 PM #39:	Jen0125 posted... bulbinking posted... Jen0125 posted... like.. he just named a cnbc analyst to head the national economic council larry kudlow has a BA in history from 1969 what qualifications does he even have to justify that appointment Like did you see the Obama's list if accomplishments before becoming president? This is business as usual. Uh yeah. He's actually very accomplished personally as a civil rights attorney, taught constitutional law and he was a congressional senator and a state senator. He also was the first black leader of the Harvard Law Review. So he had more applicable experience than 90% of the people that are being appointed in this presidency. But he was black, so. Was he really qualified? --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:897826196] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>like.. he just named a cnbc analyst to head the national economic council larry kudlow has a BA in history from 1969 what qualifications does he even have to justify that appointment</quote> Like did you see the Obama's list if accomplishments before becoming president? This is business as usual.</quote> Uh yeah. He's actually very accomplished personally as a civil rights attorney, taught constitutional law and he was a congressional senator and a state senator. He also was the first black leader of the Harvard Law Review. So he had more applicable experience than 90% of the people that are being appointed in this presidency.</quote> But he was black, so. Was he really qualified?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/15/18 12:20:54 AM #40:	RCtheWSBC posted... Jen0125 posted... bulbinking posted... Jen0125 posted... like.. he just named a cnbc analyst to head the national economic council larry kudlow has a BA in history from 1969 what qualifications does he even have to justify that appointment Like did you see the Obama's list if accomplishments before becoming president? This is business as usual. Uh yeah. He's actually very accomplished personally as a civil rights attorney, taught constitutional law and he was a congressional senator and a state senator. He also was the first black leader of the Harvard Law Review. So he had more applicable experience than 90% of the people that are being appointed in this presidency. But he was black, so. Was he really qualified? Lmao seriously. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:897827781] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>like.. he just named a cnbc analyst to head the national economic council larry kudlow has a BA in history from 1969 what qualifications does he even have to justify that appointment</quote> Like did you see the Obama's list if accomplishments before becoming president? This is business as usual.</quote> Uh yeah. He's actually very accomplished personally as a civil rights attorney, taught constitutional law and he was a congressional senator and a state senator. He also was the first black leader of the Harvard Law Review. So he had more applicable experience than 90% of the people that are being appointed in this presidency.</quote> But he was black, so. Was he really qualified?</quote> Lmao seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightengale 03/15/18 12:23:03 AM #41:	He only became a senator because of the sjws. --- I know it sounds kind of odd for me to say this about myself, but you should know that my mood changes with the wind. <cite>Nightengale posted [p:897827893] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>He only became a senator because of the sjws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 03/15/18 6:00:32 AM #42:	I wonder how much people realize that constitutional lawyer does not hold much weight in the political world. That just means he was a lawyer who emphasized his studies on constitutional law. Economy? Foreign policy? War? Nope. Besides he was absent most of his senate meetings so its not like he got any experience actually doing politics, and people forget that he had bipartisan hate just like Trump. Obama had good pr though. Thats all he had honestly, and sadly it still seems like it was enough. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqscensorship.blogspot.com <cite>bulbinking posted [p:897837961] in how do peo... [t:76415047]...</cite> <quote>I wonder how much people realize that constitutional lawyer does not hold much weight in the political world. That just means he was a lawyer who emphasized his studies on constitutional law. Economy? Foreign policy? War? Nope. Besides he was absent most of his senate meetings so its not like he got any experience actually doing politics, and people forget that he had bipartisan hate just like Trump. Obama had good pr though. Thats all he had honestly, and sadly it still seems like it was enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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