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jayj350 03/10/18 5:38:32 PM #1: |
Fact: At least 36 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs
The most important fact about this list, is that these are only cases where the information about their psychiatric drug use was made public. https://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/ Before the late nineteen eighties, mass shootings and acts of senseless violence were relatively unheard of. Prozac, the most well known SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) antidepressant, was not yet on the market. When Prozac did arrive, it was marketed as a panacea for depression which resulted in huge profits for its manufacturer Eli Lilly. Of course other drug companies had to create their own cash cow and followed suit by marketing their own SSRI antidepressants. Subsequently, mass shootings and other violent incidents started to be reported. More often than not, the common denominator was that the shooters were on an antidepressant, or withdrawing from one. There have been too many mass shootings for it just to be a coincidence. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed twelve students and a teacher at Columbine High School. Eric was on Luvox, an antidepressant. The Virginia Tech shooter killed thirty-two people and he was on an antidepressant. While withdrawing from Prozac, Kip Kinkel murdered his mother and stepmother. He then shot twenty-two classmates and killed two. Jason Hoffman wounded five at his high school while he was on Effexor, also an antidepressant. James Holmes opened fire in a Colorado movie theater this past summer and killed twelve people and wounded fifty-eight. He was under the care of a psychiatrist but no information has been released as to what drug he must have been on. Psychiatrists generally will tell you that these people were mentally ill and they werent treated in time or didnt get enough help to prevent the tragedy. However, Dr. Peter Breggin, who is a psychiatrist, stated that depression rarely leads to violence and that its only since the SSRIs came on the market that such mass shootings have taken place. In a study of thirty-one drugs that are disproportionately linked to reports of violence toward others, five of the top ten are antidepressants. These are Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. Two other drugs that are for treating ADHD are also in the top ten which means these are being given to children who could then become violent. A Harvard psychiatrist closely monitors his patients as he has seen firsthand that those that were not suicidal before became agitated, restless and completely preoccupied with suicidal thoughts. When these patients were taken off the drug, the thoughts went away. Clearly this demonstrates its the drugs causing these violent feelings, not the mental health of the patient. The point is you cant prescribe an antidepressant or any other psychiatric drug when you dont know the cause of the symptoms. Nothing ever gets treated, helped or fixed without a cause. Instead, mind-altering drugs are being given to our future generation for no sensible or logical reason other than profits for pharmaceutical companies. The only result is dead bodies from mass shootings and that is truly senseless. http://www.cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/ --- This is my signature ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pepys Monster 03/10/18 5:42:01 PM #2: |
SSRIs are no good. I used to take them, I was still depressed, and I couldn't get off.
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 5:42:37 PM #3: |
But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue!
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Phantom_Nook 03/10/18 5:43:18 PM #4: |
Clearly video games are the culprit.
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 5:43:39 PM #5: |
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DarkTransient 03/10/18 5:44:17 PM #6: |
The more I hear about antidepressants, the more glad I am I refused to ever go on them. Sure, it may have been coming from a "fuck you I'm not taking pills" point of view, but it looks like even if the reasoning was crap, the answer was ultimately the right one.
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JustMonika 03/10/18 5:44:43 PM #7: |
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TheVipaGTS 03/10/18 5:45:24 PM #8: |
KingCrabCake posted...
But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! No one who says its a gun issue has ever said its NOT a mental health issue. Its possible for both things to contribute. Stop being so disingenuous. Its not helping and shows you dont really give a fuck. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCEmanCometh 03/10/18 5:46:09 PM #9: |
What percentage of those shooters were white?
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GoodOlJr 03/10/18 5:46:59 PM #10: |
These boys would also have better mental health if they played less video games and did something physical
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0AbsoluteZero0 03/10/18 5:48:48 PM #11: |
@KingCrabCake posted...
But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! Then perhaps you can explain why other first-world countries that also commonly prescribe these antidepressants dont share our problems with mass shootings --- -The Admirable ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 5:48:57 PM #12: |
JustMonika posted...
You know what else? They easily acquired a gun too. Lol --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 03/10/18 5:49:09 PM #13: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! Its JerseyProud. He only cares about trolling and e-points. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jayj350 03/10/18 5:49:51 PM #14: |
JustMonika posted...
You know what else? They easily acquired a gun too. Criminals do that too, but their guns are unregistered. At the end of the day people will find a way to get what they want if they are determined enough. --- This is my signature ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 5:50:00 PM #15: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! You don't give a fuck so who are you to throw a stone? --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MorningRose 03/10/18 5:50:48 PM #16: |
Prozac helps me.
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 5:50:49 PM #17: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! Says the person who follows me around in topics to only throw insults at me and not the topic at hand... Go listen to some taylor swift and do some kick flips --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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myzz7 03/10/18 5:51:17 PM #18: |
yeah but they all owned DOOM and other violent vidya games!!!!! a connection methinks~!
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TheVipaGTS 03/10/18 5:51:23 PM #19: |
KingCrabCake posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! How have I shown I dont give a fuck? You came in spouting some bull shit that no one has ever said. You care more about guns than the actual issue which is why you came in with that nonsense. To deflect away. Fuck off telling me I dont give a fuck. Youve demonstrated in this topic that you clearly dont. Get over yourself. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 03/10/18 5:51:24 PM #20: |
KingCrabCake posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! Youre only making my point. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordMarshal 03/10/18 5:51:44 PM #21: |
Theys hopped up on dem vidya games!
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jayj350 03/10/18 5:52:03 PM #22: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! Actually, I have seen a lot of anti-gun people aggressively attack anything that says it could be anything besides guns. They seem to think of anyone talking about anything besides guns as a threat. --- This is my signature ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 03/10/18 5:53:52 PM #23: |
jayj350 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! Its becaue those people do what jersey did. They refuse to talk about guns and instead talk about something else. Like video games. Its a much bigger discussion. Its not guns its mental health!...no its both. And we can discuss both at the same time. Ignoring one of them isnt helping at all. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 6:02:10 PM #24: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KingCrabCake posted...sktgamer_13dude posted...TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! You already proved mine --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 03/10/18 6:02:56 PM #25: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
jayj350 posted...TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! No, it's mostly mental health. You're just blaming the inanimate tool the crazy person is using and not the crazy person. People who are determined to kill others will find a way even if guns are completely banned. A kid in Utah just brought a bomb to school. Muslim terrorists in Europe use knives and run people over with cars. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 6:03:26 PM #26: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
KingCrabCake posted...TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! People say it all the time that its a gun issue and not a mental health issue. Literally all the time. So why don't you take your own advice cause you clearly dont care. --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 6:05:21 PM #27: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! You literally admitted right here people do just that... TheVipaGTS posted... jayj350 posted... Man you just gave yourself an L lmfao --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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billcom6 03/10/18 6:05:25 PM #28: |
Thankfully Republicans are cutting funding for Medicare so people won't be able to start taking medication in the first place!!!!
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jayj350 03/10/18 6:05:40 PM #29: |
The Admiral posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...jayj350 posted...TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! Yeah I mean there is no shortage of bombing incidents, and we recently hand an incident where someone rented a truck and ran down a crowded street full of people. Crazy assholes will find a way to kill people no matter what. ...and it's not like widespread killings weren't a thing before guns were invented anyways. --- This is my signature ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 03/10/18 6:06:44 PM #30: |
The Admiral posted...
You're just blaming the inanimate tool the crazy person is using and not the crazy person. A tool design to make the task of killing easy. It's awfully strange how guns happen to be used in most of these cases and not some other tool that can be used as a weapon. I'm all for the 2nd amendment but let's not pretend that the availability of guns isn't a contributor. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jayj350 03/10/18 6:07:17 PM #31: |
Tmaster148 posted...
The Admiral posted...You're just blaming the inanimate tool the crazy person is using and not the crazy person. Are you seriously trying to deny the existence of terrorist bombings right now? --- This is my signature ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 03/10/18 6:08:20 PM #32: |
KingCrabCake posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! Maybe if you could read youd be able to see that I didnt say they said it wasnt a mental health issue. I explained why people get upset when people ONLY make it a mental health issue. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 03/10/18 6:08:26 PM #33: |
KingCrabCake posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...KingCrabCake posted...sktgamer_13dude posted...TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! Typical JP trolling. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 03/10/18 6:12:26 PM #34: |
JustMonika posted...
You know what else? They easily acquired a gun too. Not legally. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 03/10/18 6:13:54 PM #35: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! There is a thread on the first page RIGHT NOW saying exactly that... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 6:17:20 PM #36: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
stuff Again you came in a topic to just insult me. Lmao you're an obsessed fan you just seek out my attention. And obviously have a bit of hypocrisy flowing thru you. TheVipaGTS posted...
Lmfao. Righttt Not to mention people literally only blame guns all the time. Especially on CE. Sorry my post caused you to meltdown --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 03/10/18 6:17:52 PM #37: |
jayj350 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...The Admiral posted...You're just blaming the inanimate tool the crazy person is using and not the crazy person. No. Terrorist bombings do not happen as frequent as gun shootings. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 03/10/18 6:18:54 PM #38: |
Guys, I think JP is angry.
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Tmaster148 03/10/18 6:19:27 PM #39: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Guys, I think JP is angry. This is literally him: --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 03/10/18 6:24:58 PM #42: |
This is a nonissue. The Republican Party will never do anything that hurts big pharma profits
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darkjedilink 03/10/18 6:31:17 PM #43: |
M_Live posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76401246 'Just because mental health problems exist doesn't mean it's not actually guns...' But, yeah, it's not a topic on the first page saying it's not mental health that's the problem - just a strawman. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 03/10/18 6:32:54 PM #44: |
KingCrabCake posted...
But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! It's almost like there can be Multiple issues --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me saturate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 6:39:26 PM #46: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Guys, I think JP is angry. Lots of projection and trolling coming from you. --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 6:40:03 PM #47: |
DezDroppedFreak posted...
KingCrabCake posted...But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue! Its a mental health issue and cultural issue --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 03/10/18 6:50:44 PM #48: |
KingCrabCake posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...Guys, I think JP is angry. A bit ironic hearing that from you. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 03/10/18 6:52:26 PM #49: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KingCrabCake posted...sktgamer_13dude posted...Guys, I think JP is angry. Again u came in here seeking my attention.... Thats trolling --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 03/10/18 7:04:04 PM #50: |
This needs to be getting more scrutiny. But it won't because guns are the easy scapegoat and people don't really care about what causes these underlying issues to begin with.
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