Poll of the Day > Trump says something has to be done on VIDEO GAMES because BARRON is EXPOSED!!!

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Trump is re-opening a seemingly settled video game debate as he will meet with top video game executives tomorrow on why their content is triggering violent behaviour and what can be done about it.

But with only one problem..2 decades of reserch repeatedly failed to uncover such link.

However he's moving forward with it as he calls the content of "vicious" level of video game and movie violence in the context of school safety shows he is eager to explore the issue.

Trump also alluded that his youngest son, 11 y/o Barron is subjected to violent content from video games and the internet as he said "The video games, the movies, the internet stuff is so violent, it's so incredible. I see it. I get to see things that you'd be amazed at. I have a young, very young son and i look at some of the things he's watching and playing and i say, how is that possible? And this is what kids are watching and playing?"

He's entertained a wide variety of options to prevent mass shootings from arming teachers to asking the entertainment industry to tone down or even BAN R rated video game violence..

It was suggested by Marsha Blackburn who floated the idea that violent imagery is detrimental to children with mental health isues as Trump also says "You rate movies for different things maybe you have to also rate them for terror, for what they're doing and what they're all about. It's hard to believe that, at least for a percentage of children, maybe it's a small percentage, that this doesn't have a negative impact on their thought process. These things are really violent"

Would you rather vote for? Gun Control or Banning Violent Video Games? let's see what people will vote

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Just a reminder that if the mass shootings of the last 4 years combined occurred every single day, it would just barely match automobile accident deaths.

On the flip side: There are driving video games, those are the ones that should be banned!
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Lokarin posted...

Just a reminder that if the mass shootings of the last 4 years combined occurred every single day, it would just barely match automobile accident deaths.

On the flip side: There are driving video games, those are the ones that should be banned!

Just a reminder that you inflated those stats are about as bad as people were inflating the "18 school shootings" stats. With your stats, automobile accidents would, by far, be the #1 killer in this country, far eclipsing even heart disease.
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Golden Road posted...

Lokarin posted...

Just a reminder that if the mass shootings of the last 4 years combined occurred every single day, it would just barely match automobile accident deaths.

On the flip side: There are driving video games, those are the ones that should be banned!

Just a reminder that you inflated those stats are about as bad as people were inflating the "18 school shootings" stats. With your stats, automobile accidents would, by far, be the #1 killer in this country, far eclipsing even heart disease.

I went wordwide stats and included worldwide shootings (excluding military action)
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Full Throttle posted...

Would you rather vote on gun control or banning violent video games?

You know there is some really graphic books. Let's ban those too! Same as dreams. We should ban dreams!
Gun control is clearly the issue here.
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If he's concerned about the content his son's seeing in video games, maybe he should do something to keep his kid from playing such games.

Granted, given that the kid's father has literally advocated for war crimes on television, I'm not sure taking away the vidjergames will be enough to save him.

To be honest I kind of hope he makes all games like 21 plus or something because it will piss off the alt right teenagers lol.

Neither, because I'm not an authoritarian. Citizens have a right to protect themselves and the right to make their own purchasing decisions.
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knivesX2004 posted...

To be honest I kind of hope he makes all games like 21 plus or something because it will piss off the alt right teenagers lol.

Not really as they still will be able to play them.
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Damnit trump

You're really letting me down lately.
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Is America the only country where the conservatives generally don't want big government, a ton of regulations, and so on? Serious question.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Is America the only country where the conservatives generally don't want big government, a ton of regulations, and so on? Serious question.

Lol. Conservatives just authorized a spending bill that doesn't even come close to balancing, the wall not only is a massive tax expenditure but also requires eminent domain on an unprecedented scale, they oppose gay marriage and cannabis consumption, they favor militarized police, an obscene military, and Trump wants to restrict gun sales and now game sales.

I am by no means a democrat, because they're just as awful, but to say that republicans favor small government is a joke.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Is America the only country where the conservatives generally don't want big government, a ton of regulations, and so on? Serious question.

Conservatives in the US love big government, just in different ways than liberals, and talk out of their ass claiming otherwise.
Liberals want a "big government" that expands social services and safety net to more people / gives greater benefits at the expense of higher taxes.
Conservatives want a "big government" that invades the personal lives of every day people in matters like who they can marry, can they get an abortion, should life-saving medical breakthroughs with stem cells be halted b/c it makes Jesus cry, vastly expands/protects police and prosecutor immunity from "misconduct" (ie, outright breaking the law and violating the Constitutional rights of normal citizens), etc...

A sane person would note that the conservative version is far more intrusive into people's personal lives and thus a far more egregious example of "big government." Fortunately for the Republican party, any sensible conservatives fled or were chased out of the party years ago, so the logical fallacy and blatant hypocrisy of claiming to be pro-small government while trying to dictate what people do with their own bodies has never hindered their politicians' ability to get votes.

Full Throttle posted...

Trump is re-opening a seemingly settled video game debate

How can you settle a debate that we've never truly had? >_>

Full Throttle posted...

Would you rather vote for? Gun Control or Banning Violent Video Games? let's see what people will vote

Well, we need guns, we don't need video games. Also violent video games are one of the few things which bring together both parties >_>
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So, anyway...looks like the NRA has finished "convincing" Trump on how to handle gun violence.
It's certainly interesting how a lot of times, Trump will give his honest opinion of something as a semi-caring human being, only days later to have Republican politicians or right wing lobbyists to have multiple "talks" with him and he goes 180 on his initial comments.

He was horrified at the gun violence...then the NRA talked to him.
He thought the Republican plan to strip away healthcare was "cruel" (his term, which was right)...then the Republicans in Congress talked to him and he was fully in support of it.
Hell, just read today about his policy on elephants. He was going to allow poached body parts of them into the U.S., then saw how they're mutilated and called it a "horror show" and shelved that idea. But yet....just this week, the Interior Dept. quietly allowed for the ban to be lifted.

I don't think Trump is as horrifically evil as others think he is. Yes, he's super greedy, selfish, vain, idiotic, etc... But, unlike McConnell and Ryan, he still has some tiny shred of humanity that you get to see when he's confronted w/ reality and gives a snap opinion on the matter. But he doesn't know what he's doing and doesn't much seem to care, so all the far-right nuts he's surrounded himself with end up shaping all his policies.

streamofthesky posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Is America the only country where the conservatives generally don't want big government, a ton of regulations, and so on? Serious question.

Conservatives in the US love big government, just in different ways than liberals, and talk out of their ass claiming otherwise.
Liberals want a "big government" that expands social services and safety net to more people / gives greater benefits at the expense of higher taxes.
Conservatives want a "big government" that invades the personal lives of every day people in matters like who they can marry, can they get an abortion, should life-saving medical breakthroughs with stem cells be halted b/c it makes Jesus cry, vastly expands/protects police and prosecutor immunity from "misconduct" (ie, outright breaking the law and violating the Constitutional rights of normal citizens), etc...

A sane person would note that the conservative version is far more intrusive into people's personal lives and thus a far more egregious example of "big government." Fortunately for the Republican party, any sensible conservatives fled or were chased out of the party years ago, so the logical fallacy and blatant hypocrisy of claiming to be pro-small government while trying to dictate what people do with their own bodies has never hindered their politicians' ability to get votes.

Most of what you described has precisely dick-all to do with the size of government. And you have other things reversed, considering that there's been more intrusion into peoples' lives AFTER same-sex marriage than there was before it. After all, prior to the government telling people who they had to marry or provide services to, religious business owners weren't compelled to provide services against their conscience.
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Zeus posted...

streamofthesky posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Is America the only country where the conservatives generally don't want big government, a ton of regulations, and so on? Serious question.

Conservatives in the US love big government, just in different ways than liberals, and talk out of their ass claiming otherwise.
Liberals want a "big government" that expands social services and safety net to more people / gives greater benefits at the expense of higher taxes.
Conservatives want a "big government" that invades the personal lives of every day people in matters like who they can marry, can they get an abortion, should life-saving medical breakthroughs with stem cells be halted b/c it makes Jesus cry, vastly expands/protects police and prosecutor immunity from "misconduct" (ie, outright breaking the law and violating the Constitutional rights of normal citizens), etc...

A sane person would note that the conservative version is far more intrusive into people's personal lives and thus a far more egregious example of "big government." Fortunately for the Republican party, any sensible conservatives fled or were chased out of the party years ago, so the logical fallacy and blatant hypocrisy of claiming to be pro-small government while trying to dictate what people do with their own bodies has never hindered their politicians' ability to get votes.

Most of what you described has precisely dick-all to do with the size of government. And you have other things reversed, considering that there's been more intrusion into peoples' lives AFTER same-sex marriage than there was before it. After all, prior to the government telling people who they had to marry or provide services to, religious business owners weren't compelled to provide services against their conscience.

Zeus actually thinks having the government forbid individuals from marrying is less intrusive than requiring businesses to not discriminate.
But hey, he posted a silly picture so his arguments are instantly more valid.

streamofthesky posted...

He thought the Republican plan to strip away healthcare was "cruel" (his term, which was right)

You mean not forcing people to buy healthcare insurance and making people who want something pay for it themselves is "cruel"? What is this, bizarro-world?

streamofthesky posted...

Hell, just read today about his policy on elephants. He was going to allow poached body parts of them into the U.S., then saw how they're mutilated and called it a "horror show" and shelved that idea. But yet....just this week, the Interior Dept. quietly allowed for the ban to be lifted.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-trophy-hunting-import-ban-tusks-obama-son-elephants-big-game-a8243361.html

Uhhhh, nothing in there has to do with poaching. I'm guessing because you thought people wouldn't be sufficiently offended, you had to misrepresent the story to make it far more objectionable.

streamofthesky posted...

Zeus actually thinks having the government forbid individuals from marrying is less intrusive than requiring businesses to not discriminate.

A standing definition of marriage which only restricts legal status of a relationship is OBVIOUSLY less intrusive than forcing somebody to act against their will and religious convictions. If the argument was laws against any kind of homosexual relationship, you might have something resembling an actual argument.

streamofthesky posted...

But hey, he posted a silly picture so his arguments are instantly more valid.

And don't knock the images.
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The libertarian viewpoint is that individuals should be able to wed and love who they please, but it is entirely within a small business' right to do business with whom they please, yet once a business goes corporate it relinquishes that right.

Democrats and republicans are both authoritarians in their own ways. Libertarianism is consistent in the sense that no individual is forced to do anything.
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wwinterj25 posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

To be honest I kind of hope he makes all games like 21 plus or something because it will piss off the alt right teenagers lol.

Not really as they still will be able to play them.

???

knivesX2004 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

To be honest I kind of hope he makes all games like 21 plus or something because it will piss off the alt right teenagers lol.

Not really as they still will be able to play them.

???

You say that as if ratings actually stop anyone from playing a game. My 6 y/o was playing gtav when he was 3.
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_AdjI_ posted...

If he's concerned about the content his son's seeing in video games, maybe he should do something to keep his kid from playing such games.

Granted, given that the kid's father has literally advocated for war crimes on television, I'm not sure taking away the vidjergames will be enough to save him.

This, everytime. I can never understand how devs/publishers etc. don't just state the obvious: "How old is your kid? 12? What rating was the game? 18+? Well I think we've found the problem, how about as a parent, you do YOUR job and let us do ours."
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Trump is only diverting to the dern vidjagayms because his bosses at the NRA told him to not bring up gun control after his "guns first, due process second" grand idea.
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If I was forced to pick one of the two then ban violent video games. The right to keep and bear arms is insanely more important and necessary.

Still, both options are moronic.

If I had to choose one or the other, it'd be gun control. There's really no choice though, since guns can easily, directly and even accidentally kill people. Video games cannot.
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Mauser posted...

If I was forced to pick one of the two then ban violent video games. The right to keep and bear arms is insanely more important and necessary.

Still, both options are moronic.

Note that OP said a ban on games, but not a ban on guns. "Control" usually means restrictions and legislation, not outright ban.
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I feel bad that Barron's friends will probably be like "your dad's a dick. He's trying to take away our games" and then they'll stop talking to him.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

To be honest I kind of hope he makes all games like 21 plus or something because it will piss off the alt right teenagers lol.

Not really as they still will be able to play them.

???

You say that as if ratings actually stop anyone from playing a game. My 6 y/o was playing gtav when he was 3.

Your 6 year old did not go to the store and buy the game.

Maybe we should just accept that were inherently violent beings and take steps to minimize our emotional behavior.
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Trump stated...

I have a young, very young son and i look at some of the things he's watching and playing and i say, how is that possible?

Uh. You're letting it happen. That's how it's possible. Maybe don't let your 11 year old play violent video games or watch violent shit?
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To do that he'd actually have to interact with his family. Why would he ever want to do that? They can't offer him anything he wants.

knivesX2004 posted...

To do that he'd actually have to interact with his family. Why would he ever want to do that? They can't offer him anything he wants.

Ivanka can.
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Okay you gotta be working for daily mail you only use that as a "source"
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Lokarin posted...

Golden Road posted...

Lokarin posted...

Just a reminder that if the mass shootings of the last 4 years combined occurred every single day, it would just barely match automobile accident deaths.

On the flip side: There are driving video games, those are the ones that should be banned!

Just a reminder that you inflated those stats are about as bad as people were inflating the "18 school shootings" stats. With your stats, automobile accidents would, by far, be the #1 killer in this country, far eclipsing even heart disease.

I went wordwide stats and included worldwide shootings (excluding military action)

I mean all those countries you included with car bans.... Shows how they help!

If guns were regulated half as much as cars, there might actually be less issues!
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HelIWithoutSin posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

To do that he'd actually have to interact with his family. Why would he ever want to do that? They can't offer him anything he wants.

Ivanka can.

If that were true then the president wouldn't have cheated on her a year into the marriage with a porn star.

GeoMaggs posted...

Trump stated...

I have a young, very young son and i look at some of the things he's watching and playing and i say, how is that possible?

Uh. You're letting it happen. That's how it's possible. Maybe don't let your 11 year old play violent video games or watch violent shit?

Exactly. Trump sounds like a suburban soccer mom where they blame everyone but their precious darling.

Mauser posted...

GeoMaggs posted...

Trump stated...

I have a young, very young son and i look at some of the things he's watching and playing and i say, how is that possible?

Uh. You're letting it happen. That's how it's possible. Maybe don't let your 11 year old play violent video games or watch violent shit?

Exactly. Trump sounds like a suburban soccer mom where they blame everyone but their precious darling.

He should have a stronger traditional family structure, since thats what this countrys lacking.
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knivesX2004 posted...

alt right teenagers

lol whut

Lol Trump GTFO of office

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Lokarin posted...

Just a reminder that if the mass shootings of the last 4 years combined occurred every single day, it would just barely match automobile accident deaths.

On the flip side: There are driving video games, those are the ones that should be banned!

Intentional mass shootings vs accidental automobile deaths. A car isn't designed to kill.

digressive posted...

Lokarin posted...

Just a reminder that if the mass shootings of the last 4 years combined occurred every single day, it would just barely match automobile accident deaths.

On the flip side: There are driving video games, those are the ones that should be banned!

Intentional mass shootings vs accidental automobile deaths. A car isn't designed to kill.

Something not meant to kill causes more death than something meant to kill. Lol saying it isnt made to kill does not help your argument lol

dioxxys posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

alt right teenagers

lol whut

I don't understand why this is such a hard concept for you guys.

Maybe if we stopped shoving so much TnA and edgy gore into games the casual cultural teases wouldnt care about playing games any more and only the people who are passionate about gaming will be left like how we were the only ones at the beginning and we wont keep getting tricked into thinking people share our interests when it only looked like they did on the surface.
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bulbinking posted...

Maybe if we stopped shoving so much TnA and edgy gore into games the casual cultural teases wouldnt care about playing games any more and only the people who are passionate about gaming will be left like how we were the only ones at the beginning and we wont keep getting tricked into thinking people share our interests when it only looked like they did on the surface.

So no more gta or mortal Kombat?

Okay buddy
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knivesX2004 posted...

dioxxys posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

alt right teenagers

lol whut

I don't understand why this is such a hard concept for you guys.

I mean isnt it the default job of teenagers to be angsty and edgy?
If you are saying something just to get a rise?
This has the same theme addressed here:

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wwinterj25 posted...

You know there is some really graphic books. Let's ban those too! Same as dreams. We should ban dreams!

Trump certainly banned my dream of ever respecting my country.
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*Fires Trump out of a cannon*

Yeah, that ban will only be around while he's president. Any game that has fighting could be considered violent.
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dioxxys posted...

I mean isnt it the default job of teenagers to be angsty and edgy?
If you are saying something just to get a rise?

You're seriously going to tell me not a single one of his supporters is going to be impacted if he puts a out some half assed video game executive order?
Sure buddy.

knivesX2004 posted...

dioxxys posted...

I mean isnt it the default job of teenagers to be angsty and edgy?
If you are saying something just to get a rise?

You're seriously going to tell me not a single one of his supporters is going to be impacted if he puts a out some half assed video game executive order?
Sure buddy.

But teens cant have voted him in the first place.