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Eevee-Trainer
03/06/18 2:34:39 PM
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Mal_Fet: Once claimed NATO existed only after 9/11, thinks Nazis are leftists. Both main and alt (Sephiroth1288) are in Purg.



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CyricZ
03/06/18 2:37:24 PM
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I might like him more if he had any kind of presence on here apart from pushing controversy. If he even talked about video games, or his life, or even boobs.
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Gafemage
03/06/18 2:37:43 PM
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DragonGirlYuki
03/06/18 2:38:10 PM
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Pretty funny he is in purgatory.
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SomeonesAlt
03/06/18 2:38:54 PM
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Boring, one dimensional user who whines about a lot of things in others that he himself is guilty of.
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mcpwnia
03/06/18 2:39:06 PM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
No, not at all. I don't buy that he's just doing it to annoy people either. You don't spend hours doing what he does without believing it in some fashion.

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UnholyMudcrab
03/06/18 2:39:47 PM
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His username becomes especially funny whenever he starts going off on his crusades
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thelovefist
03/06/18 2:41:59 PM
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There are some people who inflame others because they post opinions so out there that they don't really believe. There are others who inflame others because they believe in their out there opinions. I believe Mal is in the latter category.
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FrenchCrunch
03/06/18 2:42:22 PM
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dude's a caricature
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John_Galt
03/06/18 2:44:29 PM
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Yes, he's one of the better users here
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Veggeta_EDGE
03/06/18 2:45:12 PM
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Hell no. Dude is obviously just playing a character but he definitely takes it to the extreme where you might have to question what he's like IRL. Even all the extreme Repub dudes on here knows when to stop playing the Repub dude.
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TrevorBlack79
03/06/18 2:45:52 PM
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Shitposter extraordinaire.
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Balrog0
03/06/18 2:46:20 PM
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I used to find him tolerable at least
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Giant_Aspirin
03/06/18 2:53:07 PM
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i have no problem with what he says as much as how he says stuff that really grinds my gears.
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Carlbertomfg
03/06/18 2:53:44 PM
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*shrug* seems alright by me. Mostly harmless.
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Superlinkbro
03/06/18 2:55:51 PM
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I always thought his username was his fanmade 3rd Fet character (besides the fact it's Fett)

Not a fan of his posts though
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MuffinzwOrned
03/06/18 2:57:49 PM
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oh jeez
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UnholyMudcrab
03/06/18 3:00:19 PM
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Superlinkbro posted...
I always thought his username was his fanmade 3rd Fet character (besides the fact it's Fett)

Not a fan of his posts though

It's an Arthurian reference. Sir Lancelot called himself "Le chevalier mal fet" or the ill-made knight.
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Superlinkbro
03/06/18 3:01:34 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Superlinkbro posted...
I always thought his username was his fanmade 3rd Fet character (besides the fact it's Fett)

Not a fan of his posts though

It's an Arthurian reference. Sir Lancelot called himself "Le chevalier mal fet" or the ill-made knight.

Yeah I never would have thought of that lol
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Funbazooka
03/06/18 3:02:13 PM
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He receives a lot of verbal abuse and dog-piling because he's pretty adept at challenging political narratives, rhetoric, etc. I've see it over and over. Most of his opponents resort to derogatory remarks (if not outright flaming) when their arguments fail. And he seems to take in stride rather than stoop to their level.
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Xx_T4rg3t3d_xX
03/06/18 3:02:33 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
He receives a lot of verbal abuse and dog-piling because he's pretty adept at challenging political narratives, rhetoric, etc. I've see it over and over. Most of his opponents resort to derogatory remarks (if not outright flaming) when their arguments fail. And he seems to take in stride rather than stoop to their level.
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Zeeak4444
03/06/18 3:05:08 PM
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Damn franklin got 88% disliked. Lmao.

On topic:

Giant_Aspirin posted...
i have no problem with what he says as much as how he says stuff that really grinds my gears.


Balrog0 posted...
I used to find him tolerable at least


These.
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Balrog0
03/06/18 3:06:25 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
He receives a lot of verbal abuse and dog-piling because he's pretty adept at challenging political narratives, rhetoric, etc. I've see it over and over. Most of his opponents resort to derogatory remarks (if not outright flaming) when their arguments fail. And he seems to take in stride rather than stoop to their level.


no, he receives a lot of verbal abuse because he often posts things he thinks support his argument without fact checking them or even reading them, which leads to him moving the goal posts and strawmanning people even as the terms of his own argument are endlessly flexible to fit his narrative

also I don't think the fact that so many of his supporting arguments are images from 4chan helps
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EnragedSlith
03/06/18 3:14:26 PM
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No, I think hes a massive tool for eating up and regurgitating far right propaganda. Like an Alex Jones to Admirals (who I generally like despite usually being in disagreement) Charles Krauthammer.

Hes also a bartender, if I recall correctly, which isnt exactly a career thats favored by right wing ideology, so it makes me further question his intelligence and motives for championing against his own interests.

Edit: hes someone I wouldnt be surprised to see marching with a tiki torch and then screaming about the fallout hed get rather than wondering if maybe hes actually in the wrong
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Tmk
03/06/18 3:15:06 PM
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Consistently terrible.
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SomeonesAlt
03/06/18 3:22:12 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
He receives a lot of verbal abuse and dog-piling because he's pretty adept at challenging political narratives, rhetoric, etc. I've see it over and over. Most of his opponents resort to derogatory remarks (if not outright flaming) when their arguments fail. And he seems to take in stride rather than stoop to their level.


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Funbazooka
03/06/18 3:38:44 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
He receives a lot of verbal abuse and dog-piling because he's pretty adept at challenging political narratives, rhetoric, etc. I've see it over and over. Most of his opponents resort to derogatory remarks (if not outright flaming) when their arguments fail. And he seems to take in stride rather than stoop to their level.


no, he receives a lot of verbal abuse because he often posts things he thinks support his argument without fact checking them or even reading them, which leads to him moving the goal posts and strawmanning people even as the terms of his own argument are endlessly flexible to fit his narrative

also I don't think the fact that so many of his supporting arguments are images from 4chan helps

Respectfully disagree. I see what you've described more often from his opponents. People who are certain in their beliefs, that reason and logic are on their side, don't immediately set in with ad hom attacks. His usual opponents always get hostile, either from the get-go or they resort to it because they got nothing left. When they're that triggered and threatened simply by his username appearing, he's probably doing something right.
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TrevorBlack79
03/06/18 3:42:13 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
People who are certain in their beliefs, that reason and logic are on their side, don't immediately set in with ad hom attacks.


They do when years of interaction have demonstrated that Mal will never listen to reason and logic.
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I_Stay_Noided
03/06/18 3:43:35 PM
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wasnt funbazooka sprouting off crisis actor bullshit with the latest school shooting?
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NibeIungsnarf
03/06/18 3:44:53 PM
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If your shtick with this series is that you close the polls if the person in question complains, it seems kind of shady to post Mal's one while he's suspended.

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Zeeak4444
03/06/18 3:46:36 PM
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TrevorBlack79 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
People who are certain in their beliefs, that reason and logic are on their side, don't immediately set in with ad hom attacks.


They do when years of interaction have demonstrated that Mal will never listen to reason and logic.


Don't forget the fact that he will trim posts to completely take them out of context. That's if he didn't just ignore anything that refutes his claims outright, which he almost always does.
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SomeonesAlt
03/06/18 3:46:43 PM
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I_Stay_Noided posted...
wasnt funbazooka sprouting off crisis actor bullshit with the latest school shooting?

Yes, his opinion is rather garbage
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Dustin1280
03/06/18 3:48:09 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
If your shtick with this series is that you close the polls if the person in question complains, it seems kind of shady to post Mal's one while he's suspended.

That said, he's terrible.


I wish the TC DIDN'T remove complainers from the results....

Not a fan of mal fet at all, I have seen him simply ignore anything that he cannot refute. Admiral also tends to lean very right, but he doesn't actually bother me at all...
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DragonGirlYuki
03/06/18 3:50:36 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
If your shtick with this series is that you close the polls if the person in question complains, it seems kind of shady to post Mal's one while he's suspended.

That said, he's terrible.


I wish the TC DIDN'T remove complainers from the results....

Not a fan of mal fet at all, I have seen him simply ignore anything that he cannot refute. Admiral also tends to lean very right, but he doesn't actually bother me at all...

Gunplagirl was one such instance.
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SomeonesAlt
03/06/18 3:51:02 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
I wish the TC DIDN'T remove complainers from the results....

I don't think Eevee does. Think it's only if someone complains beforehand and requests their name removed
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Zeeak4444
03/06/18 3:51:27 PM
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I'd like to nominate @Antifar, provided that he doesn't have any issue with it.

Edit: Not sure if this has been discussed before so I apologize if he declined previously.
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Funbazooka
03/06/18 3:57:20 PM
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TrevorBlack79 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
People who are certain in their beliefs, that reason and logic are on their side, don't immediately set in with ad hom attacks.


They do when years of interaction have demonstrated that Mal will never listen to reason and logic.

Arguments, debates between opponents almost never succeed in changing one or the other's mind. It's pretty abnormal when it occurs.

There's no reason to expect that he would change his mind anymore than his opponents.

But arguments have a better chance of rubbing off on the onlookers or at least those who haven't quite made up their minds on the subject. How do you think it looks to them when they see one side routinely setting in with immediate verbal attacks and hostility or later on when that's all they have left, whilst Mal continues drilling down the points like it ain't no thing.
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Delirious_Beard
03/06/18 3:58:17 PM
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Gafemage posted...
lol

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Funbazooka
03/06/18 3:58:25 PM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
wasnt funbazooka sprouting off crisis actor bullshit with the latest school shooting?

Yes, his opinion is rather garbage

That's a lie.

I was pretty adamant they were not crisis actors.
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SomeonesAlt
03/06/18 3:59:54 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
whilst Mal continues drilling down the points like it ain't no thing.

No he doesn't. Whenever an actual rational person like Darkman or Balrog enters the topic and destroys his shitty argument, he changes the subject or deflects. The guy never, ever admits when he's wrong.
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Dustin1280
03/06/18 4:01:20 PM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
I wish the TC DIDN'T remove complainers from the results....

I don't think Eevee does. Think it's only if someone complains beforehand and requests their name removed


Nope gunplagirl had a fit because she had 200+ hate votes and asked eevee to remove her results post poll.
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TrevorBlack79
03/06/18 4:02:06 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
There's no reason to expect that he would change his mind anymore than his opponents.


No reason besides the fact that he's usually demonstrably wrong.
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thelovefist
03/06/18 4:03:42 PM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
I wish the TC DIDN'T remove complainers from the results....

I don't think Eevee does. Think it's only if someone complains beforehand and requests their name removed


Yeah there was at least one person who complained and got removed. Can't remember who tho

It was @gunplagirl
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UnfairRepresent
03/06/18 4:14:14 PM
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I like Mal.

He's a nice guy and an intelligent person. He often has interesting points and a good perspective.

His problem is that he is super bad at arguing. He only ever sees black and white.

IMO the perfect example was a topic about hot girls in games and TV shows being bodyshamers and promoting inequality and bullying by being so sexy.

Mal made a slew of great intelligent points and wiped out a bunch of users very weak points.

Then someone raised the argument that it made no sense how video game women can be super-strong and super-athletic despite being 98 pounds with Double D breasts and arms the size of twigs.

Instead of Mal going "Yeah it's not realistic but still .." and conceding the point while still arguing his side... He just went (and I'm paraphrasing) "NO! Skinny girls with huge tits are the strongest and most athletic women on earth! It's completely realistic" and then proved his point by showing a series of pictures of busty girls doing push ups.

He just can't accept that things aren't black and white. And he also can't accept that you can have belief that isn't flawless.

I think if he just learned to appreciate nuance a little more, CE would love him.

He's way more intelligent than users like Chill or Darkman or Dustin who really don't have much to offer at all they just are better are not putting their foot in their mouth.
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Dustin1280
03/06/18 4:16:31 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I like Mal.

He's a nice guy and an intelligent person. He often has interesting points and a good perspective.

His problem is that he is super bad at arguing. He only ever sees black and white.

IMO the perfect example was a topic about hot girls in games and TV shows being bodyshamers and promoting inequality and bullying by being so sexy.

Mal made a slew of great intelligent points and wiped out a bunch of users very weak points.

Then someone raised the argument that it made no sense how video game women can be super-strong and super-athletic despite being 98 pounds with Double D breasts and arms the size of twigs.

Instead of Mal going "Yeah it's not realistic but still .." and conceding the point while still arguing his side... He just went (and I'm paraphrasing) "NO! Skinny girls with huge tits are the strongest and most athletic women on earth! It's completely realistic" and then proved his point by showing a series of pictures of busty girls doing push ups.

He just can't accept that things aren't black and white. And he also can't accept that you can have belief that isn't flawless.

I think if he just learned to appreciate nuance a little more, CE would love him.

He's way more intelligent than users like Chill or Darkman or Dustin who really don't have much to offer at all they just are better are not putting their foot in their mouth.

That's my problem with Mal though. As soon as someone posts an argument that he doesn't immediately defeat, he starts deflecting and ignoring it....
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SomeonesAlt
03/06/18 4:17:08 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
He's way more intelligent than users like Chill or Darkman or Dustin

Hahahaha lmfao
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