Board 8 > Leonhart Ranks 124 User Nominated Games: The Top Five

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More DKC2
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tonight is possible, but the schedule is filling up

not looking forward to farming 1-ups. what's the easiest way to do that in world 1?
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Doesn't the first level have an extra life balloon in that cabin room with K.Rool's letter?

If you can do that you can pause and press select to exit the level quickly and then return, and I'm pretty sure you keep everything. You can also play swanky's games for some quick lives, but those might be one and down? I don't remember.
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Yeah, you can't redo the Swanky Quizzes once you complete them.
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pjbasis posted...

you can pause and press select to exit the level quickly

whaaaaaaaaa
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SeabassDebeste posted...

pjbasis posted...

you can pause and press select to exit the level quickly

whaaaaaaaaa

oh right I forgot SD is 13 and isn't familiar with the way old games work
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i thought there would be start menu man

what other games does that work in?
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pretty much any old platformer with a level select
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so that includes mega man 2, smb3, and sonic 3?
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Sonic 3 doesn't have a level select except from your save file after you've beaten the game.

also you can't replay Mario 3 levels on the NES but I'm pretty sure you can in the later ports that let you replay levels
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ah, right. i had a memory of horizontally moving a cursor and vertically selecting a character in sonic, that must have been the save files.

i feel less bad now. i just haven't played many of those games (just MM2... and that was just now!)
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The start select thing only works on levels you cleared already btw?
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i beat that lava level! had to keep bumping the seals to turn the water blue. i really rushed through the end of it though, so i missed the G despite having K-O-N - and i wasn't even aware that you could get the swordfish. obviously wrong, since i saw a no animals sign toward the end. :(
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Yeah, the lava gimmick tempts you to rush through it because you're afraid of getting caught.
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kinda bothered, because odds are i won't revisit it.

i just cleared the red-hot ride level. really well-designed level that tripped me up in multiple spots and required some fairly precise jumping - especially needing to springboard off the dragonfly to reach another balloon as your balloon sinks

i also died to the section with three consecutive hot air shafts and three bees. even if i had two lives, after getting injured, i'd be bumped off the balloon. it sucked.

my second K-O-N-G after the very first level!

gotta watch the spurz in OT though
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man the mines have such awesome music.

didn't beat that level. done for the night i think.
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I think it was that song that made me pause the game just to listen to it as a kid.

And then I started to pay attention to VGM
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Disco Train is super nostalgic for me. I have no idea why. Really good though
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DKC2 OST so good

oh right people can still ask me about games if they want
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Oh, Metroid Prime 2 and 3 weren't nominated, how about those?
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they might have been nominated but I never played those so I wouldn't have been able to rank them
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Any chance you've played Risk of Rain?
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Approximately 0% chance

I mean I posted a link to a semi-comprehensive list of stuff I've played but I guess everyone missed that
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home a little early

might try to clear a level or two
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finally cleared the squawk shaft! i was on my last life but had zero coins, so i couldn't save

took a flight back to the first level and farmed for 1-ups and coins until i could afford a flight + save

restricting saves is the worst
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I've never known anyone to struggle to have enough Banana Coins to save
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they're not that easy to come by.

anyway, just beat the boss and immediately backtracked to world 1, stage 1, so i could farm coins and save. kleever was super-fun to fight and i love the way dixie/diddy freak out when they see bosses. also love the ridiculous celebration when you complete a level.

(edit) just dipped my toe into world 3 stage 1. not going any further tonight!
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Should just play on the SNES Classic so you can use save states tbqh.

...actually, how are you playing this? On an actual SNES? I think that and the Wii are the only devices that don't have save states...
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I'm not doing save states because I want the more AUTHENTIC experience. If I do use them it's more for an "I need to leave" situation. DKC2 can have you lose progress with a game over.

I actually did lose progress with a game over - I'd cleared the first barrel level in World 3, and then died on the underwater level. Just beat it and saved though.
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I value convenience over authenticity

save states forever
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i feel in my gut that i won't appreciate the game as much if i don't do it 'the right way.' if the game gets mindnumbingly hard to the point where it's no longer fun, then i'll probably turn to save states
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the way I usually do it is just have a save at the beginning of a level and just reload if I die so I don't lose lives

and maybe transfer the save up to a checkpoint if I hit one

I don't think running out of lives is a gimmick that makes a game better
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there is something that feels authentic about having to clear multiple levels in one go, so you really have to master the game to beat it

but yeah, DKC2 is a game that really didn't need a lives system, due to how its save system works
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for what it's worth DKC1 is noticeably easier
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I disagree. DKC1 doesn't have the more complex danger hazards and stuff, but it's pure platforming hell for the casual fan.
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Eh, I don't think of DKC1 as particularly difficult aside from a handful of infamous levels.
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Would definitely say 1 is the hardest SNES DKC.
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/games/rankings?platform=63&genre=54&list_type=diff&view_type=0&dlc=1&min_votes=7

gamefaqs averages indicate most users thought DKC2 was the hardest. Not by that large a margin, though.
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Interesting...

Wonder if MMX is up there mostly for Sigma.
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Probably. MMX1 isn't that tough aside from the Sigma Fortress.
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if sigma fortress is comparable to wily's castle, then that would probably drive me insane

... or at least lead me to use save states
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The Wily Castle/Sigma Fortresses are similarly structured, yeah. It's just what people expect from the endgame of their Mega Man games.
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I messed with MMX a little bit after getting my SNES Classic. It's not super tough, but I'd say it's harder than any of the DKC games.

imo
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Yeah, I don't think of the DKC games in general as particularly difficult overall. They each have a few very frustrating levels that everyone who's played the games knows exactly what level it is if you mention it (such as Animal Antics). I just think DKC2 has more of those levels than DKC1 does because the Lost World levels are designed to be more difficult than the rest of the game.
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I don't include the lost world, it's a little unfair that they just never designed an optional world for advanced players in the first game.
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100%ing is an important part of playing the DKC games to me, which makes them a bit more difficult. Some of the bosses can be tough too.

Are you getting Tropical Freeze when it comes out on the Switch?
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Are you getting Tropical Freeze when it comes out on the Switch?

Already got it pre-ordered!

And now that they've got a new Smash coming out for Switch they now have everything I regret missing about never owning a Wii U!
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aww, 3D World is great too!

Speaking of which, how would you rank 3D Land/Sunshine/Odyssey on your 124 games list?
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Speaking of which, how would you rank 3D Land/Sunshine/Odyssey on your 124 games list?

Super Mario 3D Land is basically a by the numbers Mario game. It's solid, but I honestly don't remember anything about it. I'd probably put it in the 80-90 range.

Super Mario Sunshine is a game I have a lot of conflicted feelings about. It has some really good stuff in there, like Pinna Park, Sirena Beach, and Noki Bay. The FLUDD-less levels in general are some of the best stuff the game has to offer (although Super Mario Galaxy borrowed most of the best ones so that neutered whatever advantage Sunshine might have had!). At the same time, it feels kind of lazy and uninspired. Way too many of the Shines feel the same (and how many times do I have to do the exact same Gooper Blooper fight anyway?), and I always think that they could've used those ridiculous Blue Coin Shines to create three more worlds. Also, Bowser in a Bathtub is the worst final boss in anything ever. I'd probably put this game around 100 or so.

Now on the other end of the "inspired" spectrum is Super Mario Odyssey. That's a good word to describe this game. It's just so much fun and ambitious, although perhaps a little overly ambitious with the sheer amount of Power Moons in this game. I was ready to be done with this game by the time I got the last Power Moon, but I'll definitely come back to Odyssey at some point and do it all again. New Donk City is one of the best worlds in any Mario game. I'd probably rank this one somewhere between 25-35.
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beat two more DKC2 levels last night. the grind is real.

one of them involved jumping on a lot of dragonflies with perfect timing - very satisfying. (it also had a bonus stage where you get a spider right after the save point - meaning i could spam it for lives). jumping on alligators and avoiding BEES was involved. the music wasn't super-notable here.

the next one had me transformed INTO a snake instead of riding it, and that was freaking great. i found myself leaning while the snake jumped. i don't think i've leaned while playing a game in a damn long time, unless you count motion-controlled mario kart.
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