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mario2000 02/26/18 5:33:50 PM #203:	knutjob posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... knutjob posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... COVxy posted... Evidence should be judged based on its quality, not how much you feel like it's true. Kinda like this report, right? Based on a real study in Germany. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime So 2 million refugees caused a 10% increase in Germany but 16000 refugees caused a 20% increase in London? Something doesn't add up London is a small city. Fucking lol Also that's now how percentages work >expecting redhats to understand math --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:896817985] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Evidence should be judged based on its quality, not how much you feel like it's true.</quote> Kinda like this report, right? Based on a real study in Germany. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime</quote> So 2 million refugees caused a 10% increase in Germany but 16000 refugees caused a 20% increase in London? Something doesn't add up</quote> London is a small city.</quote> Fucking lol Also that's now how percentages work</quote> >expecting redhats to understand math</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 02/26/18 5:33:58 PM #204:	london is not a 'small city', it is a mega city --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:896817993] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote>london is not a 'small city', it is a mega city</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 02/26/18 5:38:21 PM #205:	andel posted... it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:896818248] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other</quote> I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 02/26/18 5:39:51 PM #206:	gamepimp12 posted... andel posted... it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:896818348] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other</quote> I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants</quote> people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 02/26/18 5:40:41 PM #207:	knutjob posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... knutjob posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... COVxy posted... Evidence should be judged based on its quality, not how much you feel like it's true. Kinda like this report, right? Based on a real study in Germany. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime So 2 million refugees caused a 10% increase in Germany but 16000 refugees caused a 20% increase in London? Something doesn't add up London is a small city. Fucking lol Also that's now how percentages work I expected you to use your critical thinking skills, but you seem to be lacking. Most crime happen in urban areas. It's the same reason why there are more crime in NYC than the rest of New York state. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:896818394] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Evidence should be judged based on its quality, not how much you feel like it's true.</quote> Kinda like this report, right? Based on a real study in Germany. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime</quote> So 2 million refugees caused a 10% increase in Germany but 16000 refugees caused a 20% increase in London? Something doesn't add up</quote> London is a small city.</quote> Fucking lol Also that's now how percentages work</quote> I expected you to use your critical thinking skills, but you seem to be lacking. Most crime happen in urban areas. It's the same reason why there are more crime in NYC than the rest of New York state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 02/26/18 5:41:36 PM #208:	Immigrants dont rape. This is just more Alt-Right propaganda and a fake study. Check your privilege. --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:896818454] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote>Immigrants dont rape. This is just more Alt-Right propaganda and a fake study. Check your privilege.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 02/26/18 5:47:51 PM #209:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... knutjob posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... knutjob posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... COVxy posted... Evidence should be judged based on its quality, not how much you feel like it's true. Kinda like this report, right? Based on a real study in Germany. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime So 2 million refugees caused a 10% increase in Germany but 16000 refugees caused a 20% increase in London? Something doesn't add up London is a small city. Fucking lol Also that's now how percentages work I expected you to use your critical thinking skills, but you seem to be lacking. Most crime happen in urban areas. It's the same reason why there are more crime in NYC than the rest of New York state. Again, that is not how percentages work. Jesus fucking christ Hint. If crime in rural Germany started out low, it's reasonable to think that it is still proportionally relatively low. <cite>knutjob posted [p:896818835] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Evidence should be judged based on its quality, not how much you feel like it's true.</quote> Kinda like this report, right? Based on a real study in Germany. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime</quote> So 2 million refugees caused a 10% increase in Germany but 16000 refugees caused a 20% increase in London? Something doesn't add up</quote> London is a small city.</quote> Fucking lol Also that's now how percentages work</quote> I expected you to use your critical thinking skills, but you seem to be lacking. Most crime happen in urban areas. It's the same reason why there are more crime in NYC than the rest of New York state.</quote> Again, that is not how percentages work. Jesus fucking christ Hint. If crime in rural Germany started out low, it's reasonable to think that it is still proportionally relatively low.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 02/26/18 5:52:38 PM #210:	andel posted... gamepimp12 posted... andel posted... it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright Well yeah, I'd agree that statement would be worthless if people weren't framing the problem as immigrants only from the start of the topic. It's not deflecting in that context --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:896819116] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other</quote> I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants</quote> people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright</quote> Well yeah, I'd agree that statement would be worthless if people weren't framing the problem as immigrants only from the start of the topic. It's not deflecting in that context</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 02/26/18 6:00:56 PM #211:	gamepimp12 posted... andel posted... gamepimp12 posted... andel posted... it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright Well yeah, I'd agree that statement would be worthless if people weren't framing the problem as immigrants only from the start of the topic. It's not deflecting in that context It's pretty safe to say the majority of this rise in crime is because of the factor that wasn't there before, in this case immigrants/refugees. Occam's razor and all that. It's a pretty strong correlation and doesn't take a genius to see what's going on, especially when locals are also saying it's a problem that didn't exist before. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 2 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:896819614] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other</quote> I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants</quote> people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright</quote> Well yeah, I'd agree that statement would be worthless if people weren't framing the problem as immigrants only from the start of the topic. It's not deflecting in that context</quote> It's pretty safe to say the majority of this rise in crime is because of the factor that wasn't there before, in this case immigrants/refugees. Occam's razor and all that. It's a pretty strong correlation and doesn't take a genius to see what's going on, especially when locals are also saying it's a problem that didn't exist before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 02/26/18 6:01:03 PM #212:	gamepimp12 posted... andel posted... gamepimp12 posted... andel posted... it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright Well yeah, I'd agree that statement would be worthless if people weren't framing the problem as immigrants only from the start of the topic. It's not deflecting in that context it doesn't matter what people assert, deflecting is deflecting and you have people like this guy iPhone_7 posted... Immigrants dont rape. This is just more Alt-Right propaganda and a fake study. Check your privilege. he may not be serious but there are legitimately people that refuse to criticize immigration problems that europe has in a manner like that guy. the united states is much better historically at immigration than any other country as we vet people that come in and pretty much have zero issue with religious extremists (from immigration, we have our own religious nuts). whatever your position on immigration, europe is undeniably dealing with many issues that stem from the policy they have been following for the past decade or so. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:896819622] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other</quote> I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants</quote> people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright</quote> Well yeah, I'd agree that statement would be worthless if people weren't framing the problem as immigrants only from the start of the topic. It's not deflecting in that context</quote> it doesn't matter what people assert, deflecting is deflecting and you have people like this guy <cite>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>Immigrants dont rape. This is just more Alt-Right propaganda and a fake study. Check your privilege.</quote> he may not be serious but there are legitimately people that refuse to criticize immigration problems that europe has in a manner like that guy. the united states is much better historically at immigration than any other country as we vet people that come in and pretty much have zero issue with religious extremists (from immigration, we have our own religious nuts). whatever your position on immigration, europe is undeniably dealing with many issues that stem from the policy they have been following for the past decade or so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PhazonReborn 02/26/18 6:06:03 PM #213:	iPhone_7 posted... Immigrants dont rape. This is just more Alt-Right propaganda and a fake study. Check your privilege. Totally not a joke post --- The Phazon you know and trust since 2004 Steam ID: AncientToaster / PSN ID: LiteralToaster <cite>PhazonReborn posted [p:896819895] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>Immigrants dont rape. This is just more Alt-Right propaganda and a fake study. Check your privilege.</quote> Totally not a joke post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/26/18 6:06:34 PM #214:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... COVxy posted... Evidence should be judged based on its quality, not how much you feel like it's true. Kinda like this report, right? Based on a real study in Germany. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime I mean, yes, this is the type of data you need to attribute things correctly, but this is not London or this data. Secondly, a 10% increase in crime rate after a 10% increase in population isn't really all that surprising, and actually supports that the incoming population, in terms of criminal tendencies, are no different than the local population. Nobody would argue against that crime rate is going to increase as you increase the population of an area, regardless of who comes in. Implying that it has something to do with the immigrant's "barbaric culture" is the issue. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:896819931] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Evidence should be judged based on its quality, not how much you feel like it's true.</quote> Kinda like this report, right? Based on a real study in Germany. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime</quote> I mean, yes, this is the type of data you need to attribute things correctly, but this is not London or this data. Secondly, a 10% increase in crime rate after a 10% increase in population isn't really all that surprising, and actually supports that the incoming population, in terms of criminal tendencies, are no different than the local population. Nobody would argue against that crime rate is going to increase as you increase the population of an area, regardless of who comes in. Implying that it has something to do with the immigrant's "barbaric culture" is the issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 02/26/18 6:06:41 PM #215:	gamepimp12 posted... Offworlder1 posted... @gamepimp12 How about you go watch some youtube videoes from the UK that I mentioned before showing that migrants have been attacking and raping women. How about you listen to the UK people themselves saying how migrants are the problem. Keep making the baseless and bs claim this is me being racist and lie to yourself, those UK people know more about this then me, are they racist too ? You keep missing the point..... It's a different between saying that are a problem and saying their the problem. You have evidence, at least shakey ones that say they are a problem. You have no evidence to say they are THE problem and have double downed on that base less statement and you're racist for that. Anecdotal evidence doesn't help you here nor do incomplete numbers. you have nowhere near enough information to say that rape would return to normal numbers without the immigrants but you say it anyway as a fact. And you're racist for that. It's not racist to point out how likely the migrants are to be the primary cause of the increase in rapes and violence when the increase seems to correlate with the increase in those migrant populations. Especially when those migrants seem to come predominantly from regions in which such mistreatment of women is normalized. You don't need access to 100% of the reports to reasonably come to that conclusion. It's also not unreasonable to suppose that the British authorities are reluctant to accept that as a primary cause when we already know there have been incidents of British officials looking the other way on sex crimes committed by middle eastern immigrants out of fear of being labelled racist or giving ammunition to conservative opponents. See Rotherham. Is it a bit premature? Perhaps, but the likely cause is probably the migrants. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:896819940] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>@gamepimp12 How about you go watch some youtube videoes from the UK that I mentioned before showing that migrants have been attacking and raping women. How about you listen to the UK people themselves saying how migrants are the problem. Keep making the baseless and bs claim this is me being racist and lie to yourself, those UK people know more about this then me, are they racist too ?</quote> You keep missing the point..... It's a different between saying that are a problem and saying their the problem. You have evidence, at least shakey ones that say they are a problem. You have no evidence to say they are THE problem and have double downed on that base less statement and you're racist for that. Anecdotal evidence doesn't help you here nor do incomplete numbers. you have nowhere near enough information to say that rape would return to normal numbers without the immigrants but you say it anyway as a fact. And you're racist for that.</quote> It's not racist to point out how likely the migrants are to be the primary cause of the increase in rapes and violence when the increase seems to correlate with the increase in those migrant populations. Especially when those migrants seem to come predominantly from regions in which such mistreatment of women is normalized. You don't need access to 100% of the reports to reasonably come to that conclusion. It's also not unreasonable to suppose that the British authorities are reluctant to accept that as a primary cause when we already know there have been incidents of British officials looking the other way on sex crimes committed by middle eastern immigrants out of fear of being labelled racist or giving ammunition to conservative opponents. See Rotherham. Is it a bit premature? Perhaps, but the likely cause is probably the migrants.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 02/26/18 6:10:52 PM #216:	voldothegr8 posted... gamepimp12 posted... andel posted... gamepimp12 posted... andel posted... it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright Well yeah, I'd agree that statement would be worthless if people weren't framing the problem as immigrants only from the start of the topic. It's not deflecting in that context It's pretty safe to say the majority of this rise in crime is because of the factor that wasn't there before, in this case immigrants/refugees. Occam's razor and all that. It's a pretty strong correlation and doesn't take a genius to see what's going on, especially when locals are also saying it's a problem that didn't exist before. Do I have to go over the difference between saying they are the problem and saying they're part of the problem again ? And I'm pretty sure the Occam's razor response would be well the population has risen in general. Plus Occam's razor isn't always right as we already discussed in this topic when someone tried to bring up acid attacks that are actually pretty popular with UK gangs in general. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:896820214] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other</quote> I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants</quote> people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright</quote> Well yeah, I'd agree that statement would be worthless if people weren't framing the problem as immigrants only from the start of the topic. It's not deflecting in that context</quote> It's pretty safe to say the majority of this rise in crime is because of the factor that wasn't there before, in this case immigrants/refugees. Occam's razor and all that. It's a pretty strong correlation and doesn't take a genius to see what's going on, especially when locals are also saying it's a problem that didn't exist before.</quote> Do I have to go over the difference between saying they are the problem and saying they're part of the problem again ? And I'm pretty sure the Occam's razor response would be well the population has risen in general. Plus Occam's razor isn't always right as we already discussed in this topic when someone tried to bring up acid attacks that are actually pretty popular with UK gangs in general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 02/26/18 6:11:05 PM #217:	knutjob posted... Again, that is not how percentages work. Jesus fucking christ Hint. If crime in rural Germany started out low, it's reasonable to think that it is still proportionally relatively low. Yeah, you lack critical thinking skills. Instead of getting all prissy, why don't you think for a second? Let's do some math, shall we? Example Country: 10 million people / 1,000 total rapes Big city in Example country: 2 million people / 500 rapes Rest of Example Country: 8 million people / 500 rapes It's a well known fact that crime occurs more frequently in cities and refugees flock to urban areas for a number of reason. Let's add 20% more rapes to the city (in this case, 500 + 100 rapes = 600 total), and a 0% raise for the rest of the country (still 500). The total increase for the whole country would be from 1000 to 1100 rapes, resulting in a 10% rise. In the city, it's a 20% rise. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:896820230] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote>Again, that is not how percentages work. Jesus fucking christ Hint. If crime in rural Germany started out low, it's reasonable to think that it is still proportionally relatively low.</quote> Yeah, you lack critical thinking skills. Instead of getting all prissy, why don't you think for a second? Let's do some math, shall we? Example Country: 10 million people / 1,000 total rapes Big city in Example country: 2 million people / 500 rapes Rest of Example Country: 8 million people / 500 rapes It's a well known fact that crime occurs more frequently in cities and refugees flock to urban areas for a number of reason. Let's add 20% more rapes to the city (in this case, 500 + 100 rapes = 600 total), and a 0% raise for the rest of the country (still 500). The total increase for the whole country would be from 1000 to 1100 rapes, resulting in a 10% rise. In the city, it's a 20% rise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 02/26/18 6:14:23 PM #218:	Esrac posted... gamepimp12 posted... Offworlder1 posted... @gamepimp12 How about you go watch some youtube videoes from the UK that I mentioned before showing that migrants have been attacking and raping women. How about you listen to the UK people themselves saying how migrants are the problem. Keep making the baseless and bs claim this is me being racist and lie to yourself, those UK people know more about this then me, are they racist too ? You keep missing the point..... It's a different between saying that are a problem and saying their the problem. You have evidence, at least shakey ones that say they are a problem. You have no evidence to say they are THE problem and have double downed on that base less statement and you're racist for that. Anecdotal evidence doesn't help you here nor do incomplete numbers. you have nowhere near enough information to say that rape would return to normal numbers without the immigrants but you say it anyway as a fact. And you're racist for that. It's not racist to point out how likely the migrants are to be the primary cause of the increase in rapes and violence when the increase seems to correlate with the increase in those migrant populations. Especially when those migrants seem to come predominantly from regions in which such mistreatment of women is normalized. You don't need access to 100% of the reports to reasonably come to that conclusion. It's also not unreasonable to suppose that the British authorities are reluctant to accept that as a primary cause when we already know there have been incidents of British officials looking the other way on sex crimes committed by middle eastern immigrants out of fear of being labelled racist or giving ammunition to conservative opponents. See Rotherham. Is it a bit premature? Perhaps, but the likely cause is probably the migrants. He had been saying it was entirely migrants, not that it was likely them or possibly them or that it was worth looking into. He was saying it was them with no proof to say it was other then incomplete statistics and anecdotal evidence thats why hes racist for the statement --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:896820434] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>@gamepimp12 How about you go watch some youtube videoes from the UK that I mentioned before showing that migrants have been attacking and raping women. How about you listen to the UK people themselves saying how migrants are the problem. Keep making the baseless and bs claim this is me being racist and lie to yourself, those UK people know more about this then me, are they racist too ?</quote> You keep missing the point..... It's a different between saying that are a problem and saying their the problem. You have evidence, at least shakey ones that say they are a problem. You have no evidence to say they are THE problem and have double downed on that base less statement and you're racist for that. Anecdotal evidence doesn't help you here nor do incomplete numbers. you have nowhere near enough information to say that rape would return to normal numbers without the immigrants but you say it anyway as a fact. And you're racist for that.</quote> It's not racist to point out how likely the migrants are to be the primary cause of the increase in rapes and violence when the increase seems to correlate with the increase in those migrant populations. Especially when those migrants seem to come predominantly from regions in which such mistreatment of women is normalized. You don't need access to 100% of the reports to reasonably come to that conclusion. It's also not unreasonable to suppose that the British authorities are reluctant to accept that as a primary cause when we already know there have been incidents of British officials looking the other way on sex crimes committed by middle eastern immigrants out of fear of being labelled racist or giving ammunition to conservative opponents. See Rotherham. Is it a bit premature? Perhaps, but the likely cause is probably the migrants.</quote> He had been saying it was entirely migrants, not that it was likely them or possibly them or that it was worth looking into. He was saying it was them with no proof to say it was other then incomplete statistics and anecdotal evidence thats why hes racist for the statement</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 02/26/18 6:14:27 PM #219:	COVxy posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... COVxy posted... Evidence should be judged based on its quality, not how much you feel like it's true. Kinda like this report, right? Based on a real study in Germany. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime I mean, yes, this is the type of data you need to attribute things correctly, but this is not London or this data. Secondly, a 10% increase in crime rate after a 10% increase in population isn't really all that surprising, and actually supports that the incoming population, in terms of criminal tendencies, are no different than the local population. Nobody would argue against that crime rate is going to increase as you increase the population of an area, regardless of who comes in. Implying that it has something to do with the immigrant's "barbaric culture" is the issue. This kind of study would be considered a hate crime in London. And you actually read the report, 90% of new crime is committed by refugees, so yes, they are more likely to commit crime than the local populace. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:896820438] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Evidence should be judged based on its quality, not how much you feel like it's true.</quote> Kinda like this report, right? Based on a real study in Germany. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime</quote> I mean, yes, this is the type of data you need to attribute things correctly, but this is not London or this data. Secondly, a 10% increase in crime rate after a 10% increase in population isn't really all that surprising, and actually supports that the incoming population, in terms of criminal tendencies, are no different than the local population. Nobody would argue against that crime rate is going to increase as you increase the population of an area, regardless of who comes in. Implying that it has something to do with the immigrant's "barbaric culture" is the issue.</quote> This kind of study would be considered a hate crime in London. And you actually read the report, 90% of new crime is committed by refugees, so yes, they are more likely to commit crime than the local populace.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Newhopes 02/26/18 6:15:39 PM #220:	andel posted... gamepimp12 posted... andel posted... gamepimp12 posted... andel posted... it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright Well yeah, I'd agree that statement would be worthless if people weren't framing the problem as immigrants only from the start of the topic. It's not deflecting in that context it doesn't matter what people assert, deflecting is deflecting and you have people like this guy iPhone_7 posted... Immigrants dont rape. This is just more Alt-Right propaganda and a fake study. Check your privilege. he may not be serious but there are legitimately people that refuse to criticize immigration problems that europe has in a manner like that guy. the united states is much better historically at immigration than any other country as we vet people that come in and pretty much have zero issue with religious extremists (from immigration, we have our own religious nuts). whatever your position on immigration, europe is undeniably dealing with many issues that stem from the policy they have been following for the past decade or so. It's not so much the vetting it's that the cultures that the immigrants are coming from that are totally different, the vast majority of the immigrants coming into Europe are coming from cultures that treat women like complete shit. <cite>Newhopes posted [p:896820506] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>it is intellectually dishonest to try and deny that there is a correlation between mass immigration and these kinds of crimes and serves no purpose but to muddy the waters it is possible to have a position somewhere between accepting all immigration and calling for the deportation of all muslims yet the moderate voices never win the day when it comes to these discussions. as people of the world we need to acknowledge basic truths while seeking to alleviate this problem without trying to push one extreme or the other</quote> I don't anyone here saying immigrats have no role in it people are arguing the idea that the rise is entirely due to immigrants</quote> people deflecting are basically taking that position. if someone is unwilling to respond to this topic without whataboutism it is no different than denying it outright</quote> Well yeah, I'd agree that statement would be worthless if people weren't framing the problem as immigrants only from the start of the topic. It's not deflecting in that context</quote> it doesn't matter what people assert, deflecting is deflecting and you have people like this guy <cite>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>Immigrants dont rape. This is just more Alt-Right propaganda and a fake study. Check your privilege.</quote> he may not be serious but there are legitimately people that refuse to criticize immigration problems that europe has in a manner like that guy. the united states is much better historically at immigration than any other country as we vet people that come in and pretty much have zero issue with religious extremists (from immigration, we have our own religious nuts). whatever your position on immigration, europe is undeniably dealing with many issues that stem from the policy they have been following for the past decade or so.</quote> It's not so much the vetting it's that the cultures that the immigrants are coming from that are totally different, the vast majority of the immigrants coming into Europe are coming from cultures that treat women like complete shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/26/18 6:16:41 PM #221:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... This kind of study would be considered a hate crime in London. No, I think you just like to imagine it would be. GreatEvilEmpire posted... And you actually read the report, 90% of new crime is committed by refugees, so yes, they are more likely to commit crime than the local populace. 90% of the increase in crime is committed by the increase in population, yes. That makes complete sense. Does not suggest that they are more likely to commit crime. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:896820575] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>This kind of study would be considered a hate crime in London.</quote> No, I think you just like to imagine it would be. <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>And you actually read the report, 90% of new crime is committed by refugees, so yes, they are more likely to commit crime than the local populace.</quote> 90% of the increase in crime is committed by the increase in population, yes. That makes complete sense. Does not suggest that they are more likely to commit crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 02/26/18 6:18:55 PM #222:	Basically this topic has been people using numbers incorrectly to prove a point --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:896820700] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote>Basically this topic has been people using numbers incorrectly to prove a point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
APM 02/26/18 6:23:15 PM #223:	--- https://imgur.com/a/9W9Yy <cite>APM posted [p:896820971] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote> --- https://imgur.com/a/9W9Yy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 02/26/18 6:23:45 PM #224:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... knutjob posted... Again, that is not how percentages work. Jesus fucking christ Hint. If crime in rural Germany started out low, it's reasonable to think that it is still proportionally relatively low. Yeah, you lack critical thinking skills. Instead of getting all prissy, why don't you think for a second? Let's do some math, shall we? Example Country: 10 million people / 1,000 total rapes Big city in Example country: 2 million people / 500 rapes Rest of Example Country: 8 million people / 500 rapes It's a well known fact that crime occurs more frequently in cities and refugees flock to urban areas for a number of reason. Let's add 20% more rapes to the city (in this case, 500 + 100 rapes = 600 total), and a 0% raise for the rest of the country (still 500). The total increase for the whole country would be from 1000 to 1100 rapes, resulting in a 10% rise. In the city, it's a 20% rise. Fucking face palm Why are you still doubling down on ignoring that Germany has taken more refugees by a factor of 100? <cite>knutjob posted [p:896820997] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote>Again, that is not how percentages work. Jesus fucking christ Hint. If crime in rural Germany started out low, it's reasonable to think that it is still proportionally relatively low.</quote> Yeah, you lack critical thinking skills. Instead of getting all prissy, why don't you think for a second? Let's do some math, shall we? Example Country: 10 million people / 1,000 total rapes Big city in Example country: 2 million people / 500 rapes Rest of Example Country: 8 million people / 500 rapes It's a well known fact that crime occurs more frequently in cities and refugees flock to urban areas for a number of reason. Let's add 20% more rapes to the city (in this case, 500 + 100 rapes = 600 total), and a 0% raise for the rest of the country (still 500). The total increase for the whole country would be from 1000 to 1100 rapes, resulting in a 10% rise. In the city, it's a 20% rise.</quote> Fucking face palm Why are you still doubling down on ignoring that Germany has taken more refugees by a factor of 100?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 02/26/18 6:25:44 PM #225:	COVxy posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... This kind of study would be considered a hate crime in London. No, I think you just like to imagine it would be. GreatEvilEmpire posted... And you actually read the report, 90% of new crime is committed by refugees, so yes, they are more likely to commit crime than the local populace. 90% of the increase in crime is committed by the increase in population, yes. That makes complete sense. Does not suggest that they are more likely to commit crime. Germany total population in 2015: 81.69 Million Total of refugees accounted for in the least 2 years: About 890,000 Total increase in population: 1.08% total increase in crime: 10% The truth will set you free. But are you strong enough to handle the truth? --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:896821131] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>This kind of study would be considered a hate crime in London.</quote> No, I think you just like to imagine it would be. <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>And you actually read the report, 90% of new crime is committed by refugees, so yes, they are more likely to commit crime than the local populace.</quote> 90% of the increase in crime is committed by the increase in population, yes. That makes complete sense. Does not suggest that they are more likely to commit crime.</quote> Germany total population in 2015: 81.69 Million Total of refugees accounted for in the least 2 years: About 890,000 Total increase in population: 1.08% total increase in crime: 10% The truth will set you free. But are you strong enough to handle the truth?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/26/18 6:28:51 PM #226:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... Germany total population in 2015: 81.69 Million Total of refugees accounted for in the least 2 years: About 890,000 Total increase in population: 1.08% total increase in crime: 10% The truth will set you free. But are you strong enough to handle the truth? The study is re: a particular region that has a population of around 8 mill, iirc. Care to run those numbers again? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:896821341] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Germany total population in 2015: 81.69 Million Total of refugees accounted for in the least 2 years: About 890,000 Total increase in population: 1.08% total increase in crime: 10% The truth will set you free. But are you strong enough to handle the truth?</quote> The study is re: a particular region that has a population of around 8 mill, iirc. Care to run those numbers again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 02/26/18 6:32:54 PM #227:	knutjob posted... Fucking face palm Why are you still doubling down on ignoring that Germany has taken more refugees by a factor of 100? I can tell you're not very bright. Maybe you should do some research instead of making things up? Saying things like "a factor of 100" makes you look like an uneducated fool. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:896821588] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote> Fucking face palm Why are you still doubling down on ignoring that Germany has taken more refugees by a factor of 100?</quote> I can tell you're not very bright. Maybe you should do some research instead of making things up? Saying things like "a factor of 100" makes you look like an uneducated fool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 02/26/18 6:35:07 PM #228:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXTQeSGJjGM --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:896821719] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXTQeSGJjGM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
siganddaxter 02/26/18 6:35:11 PM #229:	My best guess: me too movement is giving people comfort in coming forward. <cite>siganddaxter posted [p:896821724] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote>My best guess: me too movement is giving people comfort in coming forward.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 02/26/18 6:35:42 PM #230:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... knutjob posted... Fucking face palm Why are you still doubling down on ignoring that Germany has taken more refugees by a factor of 100? I can tell you're not very bright. Maybe you should do some research instead of making things up? Saying things like "a factor of 100" makes you look like an uneducated fool. Sigh if all you have is name calling, why even bother? <cite>knutjob posted [p:896821758] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote> Fucking face palm Why are you still doubling down on ignoring that Germany has taken more refugees by a factor of 100?</quote> I can tell you're not very bright. Maybe you should do some research instead of making things up? Saying things like "a factor of 100" makes you look like an uneducated fool.</quote> Sigh if all you have is name calling, why even bother?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 02/26/18 6:37:28 PM #231:	COVxy posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Germany total population in 2015: 81.69 Million Total of refugees accounted for in the least 2 years: About 890,000 Total increase in population: 1.08% total increase in crime: 10% The truth will set you free. But are you strong enough to handle the truth? The study is re: a particular region that has a population of around 8 mill, iirc. Care to run those numbers again? No problem Lower Saxony population: 8 million Refugees: 170,000 Total increase in population: 2.125% Total increase in crime 10.4% 50% lower, but still a very high number. Again, facts are facts. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:896821866] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Germany total population in 2015: 81.69 Million Total of refugees accounted for in the least 2 years: About 890,000 Total increase in population: 1.08% total increase in crime: 10% The truth will set you free. But are you strong enough to handle the truth?</quote> The study is re: a particular region that has a population of around 8 mill, iirc. Care to run those numbers again?</quote> No problem Lower Saxony population: 8 million Refugees: 170,000 Total increase in population: 2.125% Total increase in crime 10.4% 50% lower, but still a very high number. Again, facts are facts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/26/18 6:39:05 PM #232:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... COVxy posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Germany total population in 2015: 81.69 Million Total of refugees accounted for in the least 2 years: About 890,000 Total increase in population: 1.08% total increase in crime: 10% The truth will set you free. But are you strong enough to handle the truth? The study is re: a particular region that has a population of around 8 mill, iirc. Care to run those numbers again? No problem Lower Saxony population: 8 million Refugees: 170,000 Total increase: 2.125% Total increase in crime 10% 50% lower, but still a very high number. Again, facts are facts. Lmao, did you just search the text for a lower number and just randomly select it? Jeez. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:896821989] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Germany total population in 2015: 81.69 Million Total of refugees accounted for in the least 2 years: About 890,000 Total increase in population: 1.08% total increase in crime: 10% The truth will set you free. But are you strong enough to handle the truth?</quote> The study is re: a particular region that has a population of around 8 mill, iirc. Care to run those numbers again?</quote> No problem Lower Saxony population: 8 million Refugees: 170,000 Total increase: 2.125% Total increase in crime 10% 50% lower, but still a very high number. Again, facts are facts.</quote> Lmao, did you just search the text for a lower number and just randomly select it? Jeez.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 02/26/18 6:40:29 PM #233:	siganddaxter posted... My best guess: me too movement is giving people comfort in coming forward. Another one who didn't read past the title. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 2 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:896822089] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>siganddaxter posted...</cite> <quote>My best guess: me too movement is giving people comfort in coming forward.</quote> Another one who didn't read past the title.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 02/26/18 6:40:59 PM #234:	COVxy posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... COVxy posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Germany total population in 2015: 81.69 Million Total of refugees accounted for in the least 2 years: About 890,000 Total increase in population: 1.08% total increase in crime: 10% The truth will set you free. But are you strong enough to handle the truth? The study is re: a particular region that has a population of around 8 mill, iirc. Care to run those numbers again? No problem Lower Saxony population: 8 million Refugees: 170,000 Total increase: 2.125% Total increase in crime 10% 50% lower, but still a very high number. Again, facts are facts. Lmao, did you just search the text for a lower number and just randomly select it? Jeez. It's right there in the article... --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:896822114] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Germany total population in 2015: 81.69 Million Total of refugees accounted for in the least 2 years: About 890,000 Total increase in population: 1.08% total increase in crime: 10% The truth will set you free. But are you strong enough to handle the truth?</quote> The study is re: a particular region that has a population of around 8 mill, iirc. Care to run those numbers again?</quote> No problem Lower Saxony population: 8 million Refugees: 170,000 Total increase: 2.125% Total increase in crime 10% 50% lower, but still a very high number. Again, facts are facts.</quote> Lmao, did you just search the text for a lower number and just randomly select it? Jeez.</quote> It's right there in the article...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/26/18 6:41:59 PM #235:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... It's right there in the article... Yes, the number is there. Did you read what it was referring to? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:896822182] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>It's right there in the article... </quote> Yes, the number is there. Did you read what it was referring to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 02/26/18 6:45:37 PM #236:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... knutjob posted... Fucking face palm Why are you still doubling down on ignoring that Germany has taken more refugees by a factor of 100? I can tell you're not very bright. Maybe you should do some research instead of making things up? Saying things like "a factor of 100" makes you look like an uneducated fool. http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/asylum.php I apologise. You are wrong by a factor of 50, not 100. The original statistics I saw had higher numbers for Germany. <cite>knutjob posted [p:896822401] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote> Fucking face palm Why are you still doubling down on ignoring that Germany has taken more refugees by a factor of 100?</quote> I can tell you're not very bright. Maybe you should do some research instead of making things up? Saying things like "a factor of 100" makes you look like an uneducated fool.</quote> http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/asylum.php I apologise. You are wrong by a factor of 50, not 100. The original statistics I saw had higher numbers for Germany.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 02/26/18 6:47:17 PM #237:	COVxy posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... It's right there in the article... Yes, the number is there. Did you read what it was referring to? Yes, applicants, which means the the accepted number would even be lower, making it even more likely for refugees to commit crimes. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:896822503] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>It's right there in the article... </quote> Yes, the number is there. Did you read what it was referring to?</quote> Yes, applicants, which means the the accepted number would even be lower, making it even more likely for refugees to commit crimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/26/18 6:49:09 PM #238:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... Yes, applicants, which means the the accepted number would even be lower, making it even more likely for refugees to commit crimes. But the number of immigrants into Lower Saxony is the original number in which you cited. You then picked out the number of those immigrants who applied for asylum when I pointed out to you that your numbers were wrong, simply because the number is lower and it would fit better with your point. If we are talking about the number of immigrant influx, it's that original number, which would mean 10% increase in population with a corresponding 10% increase in crime rate. You don't want to admit it, but that's what these numbers say. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:896822612] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, applicants, which means the the accepted number would even be lower, making it even more likely for refugees to commit crimes. </quote> But the number of immigrants into Lower Saxony is the original number in which you cited. You then picked out the number of those immigrants who applied for asylum when I pointed out to you that your numbers were wrong, simply because the number is lower and it would fit better with your point. If we are talking about the number of immigrant influx, it's that original number, which would mean 10% increase in population with a corresponding 10% increase in crime rate. You don't want to admit it, but that's what these numbers say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 02/26/18 6:53:17 PM #239:	COVxy posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Yes, applicants, which means the the accepted number would even be lower, making it even more likely for refugees to commit crimes. But the number of immigrants into Lower Saxony is the original number in which you cited. You then picked out the number of those immigrants who applied for asylum when I pointed out to you that your numbers were wrong, simply because the number is lower and it would fit better with your point. If we are talking about the number of immigrant influx, it's that original number, which would mean 10% increase in population with a corresponding 10% increase in crime rate. You don't want to admit it, but that's what these numbers say. LOL, you're seriously thinking about using that 750,000 number? Please tell me you're kidding. So 750,000 of those 890,000 refugees ended up in 1 city? Those 750,000 are non-citizens, not refugees. A non-citizen can be a permanent resident, a legal immigrant, a student. I think you just epic failed yourself by suggesting that 90% of the refugees in Germany ended up in 1 city. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:896822863] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, applicants, which means the the accepted number would even be lower, making it even more likely for refugees to commit crimes. </quote> But the number of immigrants into Lower Saxony is the original number in which you cited. You then picked out the number of those immigrants who applied for asylum when I pointed out to you that your numbers were wrong, simply because the number is lower and it would fit better with your point. If we are talking about the number of immigrant influx, it's that original number, which would mean 10% increase in population with a corresponding 10% increase in crime rate. You don't want to admit it, but that's what these numbers say.</quote> LOL, you're seriously thinking about using that 750,000 number? Please tell me you're kidding. So 750,000 of those 890,000 refugees ended up in 1 city? Those 750,000 are non-citizens, not refugees. A non-citizen can be a permanent resident, a legal immigrant, a student. I think you just epic failed yourself by suggesting that 90% of the refugees in Germany ended up in 1 city.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 02/26/18 6:55:53 PM #240:	knutjob posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... knutjob posted... Fucking face palm Why are you still doubling down on ignoring that Germany has taken more refugees by a factor of 100? I can tell you're not very bright. Maybe you should do some research instead of making things up? Saying things like "a factor of 100" makes you look like an uneducated fool. http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/asylum.php I apologise. You are wrong by a factor of 50, not 100. The original statistics I saw had higher numbers for Germany. No problem. According to those numbers, Germany accepted roughly 600,000 refugees, far less than most people expected. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:896823013] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote> Fucking face palm Why are you still doubling down on ignoring that Germany has taken more refugees by a factor of 100?</quote> I can tell you're not very bright. Maybe you should do some research instead of making things up? Saying things like "a factor of 100" makes you look like an uneducated fool.</quote> http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/asylum.php I apologise. You are wrong by a factor of 50, not 100. The original statistics I saw had higher numbers for Germany.</quote> No problem. According to those numbers, Germany accepted roughly 600,000 refugees, far less than most people expected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 02/26/18 6:59:55 PM #241:	Another interesting statistic is the increase in London crime is year on year almost exactly proportional to the reduction in the police budget (over 40% in last 5 years) <cite>knutjob posted [p:896823278] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote>Another interesting statistic is the increase in London crime is year on year almost exactly proportional to the reduction in the police budget (over 40% in last 5 years)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 02/26/18 7:10:48 PM #242:	I stopped posting because it's a waste of time arguing with stupid, UK people have been blasting on youtube the issue of migrants raping women and how there is more rape because of them. Migrants are also attacking UK citizens besides the normal british criminals and UK youtubers are saying "migrants are causing problems". The UK people have also uploaded video evidence of this, there are still brits who rape women but the rise of rape reports are because migrants are raping women and the UK people are reporting but the police are doing nothing. I have no dog in this fight, I am only commenting on what UK people are saying and that is "migrants are raping a lot of women, women do not feel safe going out at night due to gangs assaulting them". If some of you "migrant defenders" actually looked at the youtube videos and listened to what UK people are saying you would get educated on what is going on from the horse's mouth. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:896823909] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote>I stopped posting because it's a waste of time arguing with stupid, UK people have been blasting on youtube the issue of migrants raping women and how there is more rape because of them. Migrants are also attacking UK citizens besides the normal british criminals and UK youtubers are saying "migrants are causing problems". The UK people have also uploaded video evidence of this, there are still brits who rape women but the rise of rape reports are because migrants are raping women and the UK people are reporting but the police are doing nothing. I have no dog in this fight, I am only commenting on what UK people are saying and that is "migrants are raping a lot of women, women do not feel safe going out at night due to gangs assaulting them". If some of you "migrant defenders" actually looked at the youtube videos and listened to what UK people are saying you would get educated on what is going on from the horse's mouth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 02/26/18 7:12:46 PM #243:	Offworlder1 posted... I stopped posting because it's a waste of time arguing with stupid, UK people have been blasting on youtube the issue of migrants raping women and how there is more rape because of them. Migrants are also attacking UK citizens besides the normal british criminals and UK youtubers are saying "migrants are causing problems". The UK people have also uploaded video evidence of this, there are still brits who rape women but the rise of rape reports are because migrants are raping women and the UK people are reporting but the police are doing nothing. I have no dog in this fight, I am only commenting on what UK people are saying and that is "migrants are raping a lot of women, women do not feel safe going out at night due to gangs assaulting them". If some of you "migrant defenders" actually looked at the youtube videos and listened to what UK people are saying you would get educated on what is going on from the horse's mouth. because as well all know youtube videos are better evidence than actual statistics --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:896824020] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>I stopped posting because it's a waste of time arguing with stupid, UK people have been blasting on youtube the issue of migrants raping women and how there is more rape because of them. Migrants are also attacking UK citizens besides the normal british criminals and UK youtubers are saying "migrants are causing problems". The UK people have also uploaded video evidence of this, there are still brits who rape women but the rise of rape reports are because migrants are raping women and the UK people are reporting but the police are doing nothing. I have no dog in this fight, I am only commenting on what UK people are saying and that is "migrants are raping a lot of women, women do not feel safe going out at night due to gangs assaulting them". If some of you "migrant defenders" actually looked at the youtube videos and listened to what UK people are saying you would get educated on what is going on from the horse's mouth.</quote> because as well all know youtube videos are better evidence than actual statistics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 02/26/18 7:18:42 PM #244:	@mario2000 Some of those videos talk about the statistics too, but hey keep on defending rape culture. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:896824346] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote>@mario2000 Some of those videos talk about the statistics too, but hey keep on defending rape culture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 02/26/18 7:19:35 PM #245:	EnragedSlith posted... Which is? Immigration. --- Make America great again! <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:896824389] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>EnragedSlith posted...</cite> <quote>Which is?</quote> Immigration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 02/26/18 7:21:23 PM #246:	Offworlder1 posted... @mario2000 Some of those videos talk about the statistics too, but hey keep on defending rape culture. so only "some" of them huh, wow way to sell your youtube videos also point out specifically where i defend rape culture --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:896824486] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>@mario2000 Some of those videos talk about the statistics too, but hey keep on defending rape culture.</quote> so only "some" of them huh, wow way to sell your youtube videos also point out specifically where i defend rape culture</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/26/18 7:47:00 PM #247:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... I think you just epic failed yourself by suggesting that 90% of the refugees in Germany ended up in 1 city. I mean, if the numbers are off then I take back what I said about the proportionality, but I had remembered initial reporting of the study suggesting that the influx was approx 10%, though that could have been bad reporting or misunderstanding. Regardless, the jump to propensity to commit crime requires you to ignore all other factors that covary with immigrant status, which is primarily why we see crazy spurious correlations in these types of data, unknown "third variables". --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:896826045] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote> I think you just epic failed yourself by suggesting that 90% of the refugees in Germany ended up in 1 city.</quote> I mean, if the numbers are off then I take back what I said about the proportionality, but I had remembered initial reporting of the study suggesting that the influx was approx 10%, though that could have been bad reporting or misunderstanding. Regardless, the jump to propensity to commit crime requires you to ignore all other factors that covary with immigrant status, which is primarily why we see crazy spurious correlations in these types of data, unknown "third variables".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 02/26/18 8:18:31 PM #248:	youtube videos are never a valid source and definitely not an accurate measurement of anything. it is undeniable that the migration issue in europe has caused issues including rapes but let's not be disingenuous in trying to make it out to be some mad max style hellscape either. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:896828017] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote>youtube videos are never a valid source and definitely not an accurate measurement of anything. it is undeniable that the migration issue in europe has caused issues including rapes but let's not be disingenuous in trying to make it out to be some mad max style hellscape either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 02/26/18 8:40:11 PM #249:	Lmao @COVxy trying desperately to ignore the truth. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:896829420] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote>Lmao @COVxy trying desperately to ignore the truth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/26/18 8:41:13 PM #250:	Howl posted... Lmao COVxy trying desperately to ignore the truth. Don't tag me unless you have something interesting to contribute. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:896829503] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Lmao COVxy trying desperately to ignore the truth.</quote> Don't tag me unless you have something interesting to contribute.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 02/26/18 8:43:29 PM #251:	Just how fucking far gone are some of you right wingers on this site? If anyone doubts racism is alive and well CE would change their mind in a heartbeat. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:896829633] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote>Just how fucking far gone are some of you right wingers on this site? If anyone doubts racism is alive and well CE would change their mind in a heartbeat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/26/18 8:43:34 PM #252:	Caution999 posted... It's OK. Women can just carry pepper spray and hope they don't miss the eyes of a rapist - and also hope, that they're able to run pretty fast - even in high heels or whatever. Imagine using women carrying pepper spray as proof a country is shit while wishing everyone in America carried guns. Imagine having that little awareness. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896829645] in London see... [t:76359322]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>It's OK. Women can just carry pepper spray and hope they don't miss the eyes of a rapist - and also hope, that they're able to run pretty fast - even in high heels or whatever.</quote> Imagine using women carrying pepper spray as proof a country is shit while wishing everyone in America carried guns. Imagine having that little awareness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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