Current Events > London sees 20% rise in rape reports in a year, but police don't understand why

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The Admiral
02/26/18 10:12:59 AM
#51:


Funkydog posted...
Newhopes posted...
Funkydog posted...
Newhopes posted...
Interesting little statistic for you, londons population is now less than 45% white.

I don't see how that is relevant? Don't need to be white to be British. Many people born in Britain who aren't white.

If you want to make whatever asinine statement you are trying to make, you should probably use the fact it has one of the largest immigrant populations in the world (behind New York, I think?)


Because it shows you what happens with leftist style population replacement.

Using the immigrant population would do that better, if that is the narrative you want to push. Not the "non white" BNP rubbish you're peddling. The vast majority of black/indian/asian/whatever people here are just as much British as anyone else. They love a good curry, a pint of beer with the lads and a cheeky nando's. Your point is shit.


Yeah, I agree with this. It has nothing to do with skin color, it has to do with a large influx of people with a different culture and values that are largely seen as primitive by western standards (e.g. treatment of women). There is no reason these migrants couldn't assimilate and fit in with the culture, as they tend to do in the U.S. But they have not done that successfully thus far.
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l Dudeboy l
02/26/18 10:13:53 AM
#52:


"'No way to explain this' Says country that opened the floodgates to people who treat women like dirt."
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sktgamer_13dude
02/26/18 10:14:07 AM
#53:


Howl posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?

A way for the alt-right to be the racists they are.


I like how you have no way to actually dispute what they said so you just resort to name calling. It's cute.

Says the guy with no data besides brown people are mean!!!!!
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KiwiTerraRizing
02/26/18 10:14:34 AM
#54:


Caution999 posted...
It's OK. Women can just carry pepper spray and hope they don't miss the eyes of a rapist - and also hope, that they're able to run pretty fast - even in high heels or whatever.

Thank god in America we give them a choice to carry a gu*is shot*


Dont get our hopes up
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Heineken14
02/26/18 10:15:35 AM
#55:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?


Migrants and refugees from countries that consider women to be second-class citizens.


There's that much of an influx of southern Americans to the UK?!!?
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The Admiral
02/26/18 10:17:41 AM
#57:


Sparksfanboy posted...
Heineken14 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?


Migrants and refugees from countries that consider women to be second-class citizens.


There's that much of an influx of southern Americans to the UK?!!?


I already said that tho


Are these deflections supposed to be clever?
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foreveraIone
02/26/18 10:17:47 AM
#58:


Sparksfanboy posted...
Heineken14 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?


Migrants and refugees from countries that consider women to be second-class citizens.


There's that much of an influx of southern Americans to the UK?!!?


I already said that tho

I was the first person to say it.

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COVxy
02/26/18 10:20:49 AM
#59:


Unless there's also a corresponding emmigration of Brits, it seems to me that population density has been on the rise as well...
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Howl
02/26/18 10:20:49 AM
#60:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Howl posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?

A way for the alt-right to be the racists they are.


I like how you have no way to actually dispute what they said so you just resort to name calling. It's cute.

Says the guy with no data besides brown people are mean!!!!!


I actually posted data about this in post 36. Lol
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indominusrex
02/26/18 10:26:18 AM
#61:


indominusrex posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?


Migrants and refugees from countries that consider women to be second-class citizens.


Are they the same one a doing all the shootings in America too?

The Admiral posted...
indominusrex posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?


Migrants and refugees from countries that consider women to be second-class citizens.


Are they the same one a doing all the shootings in America too?


Holy deflection, Batman!


Disbelief and deflection do not equate.

Keep peddlin' that filth tho.
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Fam_Fam
02/26/18 11:47:58 AM
#62:


tote_all posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
that they would then have an explanation. if they had such evidence, it wouldn't be unclear why it's happening. therefore, it is likely that such statistical evidence does not exist as of now. if you had the evidence, you could definitely help them understand it.

also, do you have evidence that perhaps the migrants aren't the victims of the crimes? or are you letting your biases cloud the fact that this is an equally likely possibility. people who aren't familiar with an area and who have no where to flee would be easy targets, no? also, we see a rise in hate crimes as well, wonder why that is.


You didn't answer either of my questions. Could you, please?

Darkman124 posted...
i'm not arguing against the narrative. i'm stating what needs to be produced in order to properly substantiate the narrative.


What you need to take with you is that sometimes it is fine to do estimates. 20% not being the yearly deviation in rapes in the UK is a good estimate. You are right that to make an actual statement you need the numbers, yes, but come on.


i did answer your question. if there are demographic statistics that migrants/refugees were the perpetrators, I would believe that. However, because they are saying they don't know what it is, and I find it hard to believe that they didn't consider this, it does not seem like that would be the case.

You did not answer my questions. As I said, it COULD be because of the influx of refugees/migrants, but as of now, there's just as much evidence that they are coming in and being taken advantage of because of their vulnerable status (and being victims of hate crimes, apparently). Do you acknowledge that, without other evidence, that this could also be an explanation? If not, then I question why you are fully willing to accept one possibility as fact ("obvious"), but discount the other possibility, which has equal evidence (as far as we know)? I think if it was obvious, they wouldn't be so puzzled.
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FluttershyPony
02/26/18 11:49:31 AM
#63:


>tfw i can wear a turban and grow a beard and have significant diplomatic immunity

Only in europe
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CommonStar
02/26/18 12:04:38 PM
#64:


The amount of incidents probably remain the same, but the amount of reports probably means that now they're more likely to report and speak out about it. I mean if we look at the current climate and how a lot of people in power are being outed as abusers, rapists, and harrassers.
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deanshow
02/26/18 12:08:41 PM
#65:


It's obvious that it jumped up 20% because the TC was in London last year
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r4X0r
02/26/18 12:11:31 PM
#66:


indominusrex posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?


Migrants and refugees from countries that consider women to be second-class citizens.


Are they the same one a doing all the shootings in America too?


Not ALL of them, ever heard of a woman called Tashfeen Malik?
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voldothegr8
02/26/18 12:16:35 PM
#67:


CommonStar posted...
The amount of incidents probably remain the same, but the amount of reports probably means that now they're more likely to report and speak out about it. I mean if we look at the current climate and how a lot of people in power are being outed as abusers, rapists, and harrassers.

Did you even read the article?
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myzz7
02/26/18 12:17:12 PM
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HiddenLurker
02/26/18 12:28:26 PM
#69:


CommonStar posted...
The amount of incidents probably remain the same, but the amount of reports probably means that now they're more likely to report and speak out about it. I mean if we look at the current climate and how a lot of people in power are being outed as abusers, rapists, and harrassers.


Nah it is the other way around. They don't take the data as to if the rapist is a migrant. That way they can claim "no data" when asked if it is related to the spike in rapes. Hilariously the people here have fallen for it because they want data they refuse to even collect and then use lack of data as proof that there is no problem.

It would be like if I refused to open my credit card bill. And believed I owed them nothing.
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gamepimp12
02/26/18 12:35:32 PM
#70:


Its a lot of leaps of logic in here.

An increase in rape reports doesnt mean an increase in rapes.

And acid attacks have replaced guns for natural born Londoner as well
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creativerealms
02/26/18 12:37:02 PM
#71:


Caution999 posted...
It's OK. Women can just carry pepper spray and hope they don't miss the eyes of a rapist - and also hope, that they're able to run pretty fast - even in high heels or whatever.

Thank god in America we give them a choice to carry a gu*is shot*

Then the woman can miss with the gun and hope it does not end up in the hands of the rapist who kills her afterwards.
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Bloodychess
02/26/18 12:38:16 PM
#72:


Caution999 posted...
It's OK. Women can just carry pepper spray and hope they don't miss the eyes of a rapist


They might get charged with a hate crime afterwards though
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Bloodychess
02/26/18 12:38:59 PM
#73:


gamepimp12 posted...
An increase in rape reports doesnt mean an increase in rapes.


Oh, so NOW we're accepting that some reports may be false?
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JustMonika
02/26/18 12:39:18 PM
#74:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
A way for the alt-right to be the racists they are.

Basically this topic.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/26/18 12:41:08 PM
#75:


Wait, so are people suggesting London, one of the most ethnically diverse cities in the world for years, only experienced an influx in migrants in the past year? And that these people are raping people en masse?
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masticatingman
02/26/18 12:41:55 PM
#76:


The Admiral posted...

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Caution999
02/26/18 12:42:18 PM
#77:


creativerealms posted...
Caution999 posted...
It's OK. Women can just carry pepper spray and hope they don't miss the eyes of a rapist - and also hope, that they're able to run pretty fast - even in high heels or whatever.

Thank god in America we give them a choice to carry a gu*is shot*

Then the woman can miss with the gun and hope it does not end up in the hands of the rapist who kills her afterwards.


It's hard to miss when a guy is right in front of you, though.

creativerealms posted...
Caution999 posted...
It's OK. Women can just carry pepper spray and hope they don't miss the eyes of a rapist - and also hope, that they're able to run pretty fast - even in high heels or whatever.

Thank god in America we give them a choice to carry a gu*is shot*

Then the woman can miss with the gun and hope it does not end up in the hands of the rapist who kills her afterwards.


She can miss with the pepper spray and it might end up in the hands of the rapist too!

I guess women shouldn't carry purses anymore.
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gamepimp12
02/26/18 12:42:45 PM
#78:


Bloodychess posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
An increase in rape reports doesnt mean an increase in rapes.


Oh, so NOW we're accepting that some reports may be false?


Where did I say that.

What I said was yall where connecting one confirmed thing to another possibly related but unconfirmed thing to prove a point.
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Offworlder1
02/26/18 12:42:53 PM
#79:


Hmm migrants were let in, many of them are savage animals who are attacking people, and raping women, stabbings are up and rapes have increased. Sounds like those refugees are the problem, maybe the UK needs to not let anymore in and kick out the ones already there so crime goes down.

The UK should be glad none of this was gun violence, the women can use pepper spray and tazers to defend themselves after all. Oh wait that shit seems to not be working, gee I wonder if these women would be much safer if they had a gun to defend themselves against the gangs of savages.
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TheCyborgNinja
02/26/18 12:45:49 PM
#80:


When Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia are western civilization's only hope...

I just don't get who in their right mind can just refuse to see what's going on. It is unacceptable to literally allow your country to be raped and pillaged because "hurting feelings" is worse... Fuck off.
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foreveraIone
02/26/18 12:47:15 PM
#81:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
When Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia are western civilization's only hope...

I just don't get who in their right mind can just refuse to see what's going on. It is unacceptable to literally allow your country to be raped and pillaged because "hurting feelings" is worse... Fuck off.

you mean countries who are only a fraction of the wealth per capita of Germany/France/Uk/Sweden and other European countries that let Muslims in?

ok.
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tommybel89
02/26/18 12:49:19 PM
#82:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?

A way for the alt-right to be the racists they are.

Are statistics racist?
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tommybel89
02/26/18 12:49:41 PM
#83:


I wonder if the acid attacks are up too this year. I wonder why they would be.
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA
02/26/18 12:49:52 PM
#84:


foreveraIone posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
from countries that consider women to be second-class citizens.

are you talking about certain regions in the US or the mid-


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r4X0r
02/26/18 12:50:01 PM
#85:


tommybel89 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?

A way for the alt-right to be the racists they are.

Are statistics racist?


On this forum? Yes, and you can be moderated for offensive posting as well for showing statistics.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/26/18 12:51:01 PM
#86:


tommybel89 posted...
I wonder if the acid attacks are up too this year. I wonder why they would be.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2018/feb/25/bravery-isnt-enough-acid-attack-shows-why-reporters-need-good-bosses

Do you think acid attacks are exclusive to a particular race or culture lol
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Bloodychess
02/26/18 12:51:08 PM
#87:


r4X0r posted...
tommybel89 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Which is?

A way for the alt-right to be the racists they are.

Are statistics racist?


On this forum? Yes, and you can be moderated for offensive posting as well for showing statistics.


Ah yes

"You're using facts for racist reasons. Warned"
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tommybel89
02/26/18 12:52:42 PM
#88:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
tommybel89 posted...
I wonder if the acid attacks are up too this year. I wonder why they would be.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2018/feb/25/bravery-isnt-enough-acid-attack-shows-why-reporters-need-good-bosses

Do you think acid attacks are exclusive to a particular race or culture lol

Stereotypically, who is doing these acid attacks in England? Is it the Arsenal fan or the newly arrived adult refugee who pretends to be 16?
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gamepimp12
02/26/18 12:54:54 PM
#89:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
tommybel89 posted...
I wonder if the acid attacks are up too this year. I wonder why they would be.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2018/feb/25/bravery-isnt-enough-acid-attack-shows-why-reporters-need-good-bosses

Do you think acid attacks are exclusive to a particular race or culture lol


Wait they really didnt know acid attacks are basically becoming their guns ?

Like that and knifes are the preferred methods of attack, its even frequently mentioned in rap
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The Admiral
02/26/18 12:55:18 PM
#90:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
Wait, so are people suggesting London, one of the most ethnically diverse cities in the world for years, only experienced an influx in migrants in the past year? And that these people are raping people en masse?


No, it's been an ongoing trend since the Syrian migration influx started a few years ago.

And this is another correlated trend, which may or may not be related:

YuMRsR8
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Prestoff
02/26/18 12:55:46 PM
#91:


The Admiral posted...
According to the Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC), which is the source listed in this article, rape and sexual assault have trended up every year for the last five years, reaching new highs in each one.

https://www.london.gov.uk/what-we-do/mayors-office-policing-and-crime-mopac/data-and-statistics/crime%20/domestic-and-sexual

YuMRsR8


Thank you.

Look here, I'm pretty damn liberal myself when it comes to a lot of issues, but there is a pretty hard correlation when it comes to the statistics right here. Especially when you have a culture that views women as second class citizens. Like hilariously Saudi Arabia allowing women to drive is seen as something revolutionary, which is also met with hilarious amount of opposition because it goes against the Quran and traditions. Islam is a dangerous belief system, a lot of it can't coincide with western culture.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/26/18 12:57:03 PM
#92:


Somebody really needs to make a flowchart for right wing responses to stuff like this.

Can I use reports of rape for some not even thinly veiled racism? If yes, begin outrage.

Do reports of rape tie into the feminist movement, allegations against prominent figures or college campuses? If yes, they're fake.
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JustMonika
02/26/18 12:58:33 PM
#93:


Why do CE conservatives not care about statistics and the obvious reason mass shootings continue to happen in the US though?
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The Admiral
02/26/18 12:58:49 PM
#94:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
Somebody really needs to make a flowchart for right wing responses to stuff like this.

Can I use reports of rape for some not even thinly veiled racism? If yes, begin outrage.


Yes, we know, you bleeding hearts think that any discussion of abnormally high crime levels by minorities is racist.

If this upsets you, just head back to those mass shooting topics where you have no qualms generalizing whites.
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CruelBuffalo
02/26/18 12:59:20 PM
#95:


Prestoff posted...
The Admiral posted...
According to the Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC), which is the source listed in this article, rape and sexual assault have trended up every year for the last five years, reaching new highs in each one.

https://www.london.gov.uk/what-we-do/mayors-office-policing-and-crime-mopac/data-and-statistics/crime%20/domestic-and-sexual

YuMRsR8


Thank you.

Look here, I'm pretty damn liberal myself when it comes to a lot of issues, but there is a pretty hard correlation when it comes to the statistics right here. Especially when you have a culture that views women as second class citizens. Like hilariously Saudi Arabia allowing women to drive is seen as something revolutionary, which is also met with hilarious amount of opposition because it goes against the Quran and traditions. Islam is a dangerous belief system, a lot of it can't coincide with western culture.


Whats the correlation number for refuge arrivals vs increases in rape reporting since you chose that term?

Dont many people describe their attackers? Has there been an increase in suspects of middle eastern background? Seems to be a lot of lazy shaming so its sift through this topic with actual facts
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Bloodychess
02/26/18 12:59:44 PM
#96:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
Somebody really needs to make a flowchart for right wing responses to stuff like this.

Can I use reports of rape for some not even thinly veiled racism? If yes, begin outrage.


Better yet. lets go the other way

Is someone noticing violent crimes increase along with a minority population jump?

If yes, call everyone noticing it a racist.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/26/18 12:59:45 PM
#97:


The Admiral posted...
Yes, we know, you bleeding hearts think that any discussion of abnormally high crime levels by minorities is racist.

We already know you think non whites are genetically predisposed to being violent savages my dude.
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Prestoff
02/26/18 12:59:45 PM
#98:


JustMonika posted...
Why do CE conservatives not care about statistics and the obvious reason mass shootings continue to happen in the US though?


That's also a good point too. We have seen an increase in mass shootings, but as usual nothing ever gets done because we have a crazed gun culture problem in the US...
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Offworlder1
02/26/18 12:59:59 PM
#99:


Its not being racist when its the truth, the migrants are the problem and when these people have no respect for women then its pretty obvious they are the reason more rapes have occured.

There are a number of UK youtubers who have said the migrants have been attacking and raping women. Are they lying too ?
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The Admiral
02/26/18 1:00:17 PM
#100:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
The Admiral posted...
Yes, we know, you bleeding hearts think that any discussion of abnormally high crime levels by minorities is racist.

We already know you think non whites are genetically predisposed to being violent savages my dude.


We know you have a history of pulling shit out of your ass like this when you get destroyed, my dude. Take your L with class for a change.
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