Poll of the Day > welp this line from a comic book really makes me facepalm

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

You mean Edgelord Batman?

I'm Batman. Except I'm gonna break your back. Also, I have AIDS. WHOO!

Or, well, Black Edgelord Bat-Wolverine with AIDS. Honestly, now that you mention it, the homages to Batman (and Wolverine to some extent) were probably why I liked him. That and the shiny outfit, which is kinda awful for stealth.



ParanoidObsessive posted...

That was always the complaint in comic fan circles about Marvel and DC's push to pander to Twitter and Tumblr with excessively "progressive" storylines - those places are filled with people who will praise diversity to the moon and shout about how comics (and everything else) need to be representative, but then when you give them the things they ask for they never actually buy them.

So ultimately Marvel and DC put out books to capture a new audience which doesn't actually buy them, and the changes are radical enough to chase off the people who were already paying for the books (and in some cases, have been buying them for decades). In being so desperate and willing to sacrifice old readers for new, they wind up with neither.

Same shit with feminists attacking the video game industry. These companies never really wise up to it, though, and instead kowtow to loud idiots who have zero intention of ever buying from them.

NightMareBunny posted...

thing is unless the books at image comics it's not gonna survive with a new concept and new characters

because people are afraid of new things and will stick to the status quo like i said

I admire NMB's ability to be consistently wrong.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

shadowsword87 posted...

I wanted to ask why comics are always so complicated and dumb... but then I realized I would get a legitimate response... so comics are complicated and dumb.

Dozens of writers having to tell new stories for the same characters over and over for decades tends to have that effect on almost any medium.

Comics just tend to suffer from it a bit worse because they're mainly fantasy in the first place, and there's a monthly turnover. But they're hardly the only victims of that sort of scenario.

Not to mention how many people involved with a title tend to either not know the history or want to drastically change things to reflect their vision. #FuckYouJoeQuesada
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Zeus posted...

Same shit with feminists attacking the video game industry. These companies never really wise up to it, though, and instead kowtow to loud idiots who have zero intention of ever buying from them.

SJWs*
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I agree that the "writing by committee" approach is possibly the biggest weakness of U.S. comic books as a medium. There are things about manga that drive me nuts, too, but at least those tend to be single-creator works.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

It's not as if Faerun is the only setting to suffer this, though. Mystara got catastrophically fucked over when they did the Wrath of the Immortals storyline to dovetail with the Rules Cyclopedia version of Basic being released, and Greyhawk was dicked around with via the Greyhawk Wars/From the Ashes, because they wanted to put out a more Gygax-lite interpretation of the setting. And Krynn pretty much gets radically screwed over every single time they come out with a new Dragonlance trilogy.

I will always give you bonus points for mentioning Mystara. Still one of my favorite settings. And I might be the outlier, but I enjoyed the Living Greyhawk (i.e. 3rd Edition) version of Greyhawk. ... Then again, I did not mind the Gord the Rogue books, either.
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I_Abibde posted...

I will always give you bonus points for mentioning Mystara. Still one of my favorite settings.

Literally the first D&D product I ever bought was the Red Steel box set.

Years ago, back when my dog had a tumor in her leg and I was taking her to the vet hospital for chemo (which meant I had to hang around in the waiting room for an hour or so at least once a week), I "acquired" most of the original Gazetteers and read them for setting info to pass the time.


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