Current Events > Why werent black people excited for Blade?

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Black Panther is lame compared to Blade, yet theres this huge freakout over it.
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Cause everyones become more racist in an effort to be less racist
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it's not just Black Panther, but also Wakanda and the cast.

and iirc, Wesley Snipes wanted to do Black Panther in the 90s

edit: and tbf, social media wasn't as much of a thing when Blade came out
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"Black Panther is the first black superhero movie!"
Hancock?
"Black Panther is the first black superhero comic book movie"
Spawn? Steel?
"Black Panther is the first black superhero marvel comic book movie"
Blade?

"Black Panther is better than Meteor Man"
Yea... I think we can all agree on that.
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another thing - people are way more into comic book movies than they were back then

s0nicfan posted...

Black Panther looks to be a higher quality and scale than the ones you've posted
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Because vampires aren't superheroes.

boxington posted...

Black Panther looks to be a higher quality and scale than the ones you've posted

Hopefully. That doesn't make it special, though. It just makes it good.
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Blade wasn't a blockbuster made by a major studio.
It didn't feature a majority black cast/crew.
It wasn't based around African-American/African culture.
Being black wasn't at all essential to the character of Blade.
We know hear more about how films with black leads/majority black casts don't make money and this one looks to seriously buck that line of thinking.
Social Media is a thing now.

Those are the reasons.

boxington posted...

edit: and tbf, social media wasn't as much of a thing when Blade came out

This is the real answer.

ngl Blade has aged terribly. It's practically a comedy now.
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Skye Reynolds posted...

Because vampires aren't superheroes.

bruh he's a daywalker ok?
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Gamer99z posted...

ngl Blade has aged terribly. It's practically a comedy now.

Blade 2's fight scene still holds today
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lolife67 posted...

Blade wasn't a blockbuster made by a major studio.

It was written by Goyer, distributed by New Line Cinema, released in the summer, and made over $100M worldwide. It was absolutely a blockbuster.
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Do you guys remember Jesscia Biels body in Blade 3? Damn she was a hotty!
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Too many white people in blade. Wakanda though is a black ethno nationalist paradise.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Too many white people in blade. Wakanda though is a black ethno nationalist paradise.

you didn't even watch the movie

in the end they admit wakanda was wrong the whole time and open up to the world.

s0nicfan posted...

lolife67 posted...

Blade wasn't a blockbuster made by a major studio.

It was written by Goyer, distributed by New Line Cinema, released in the summer, and made over $100M worldwide. It was absolutely a blockbuster.

It cost $45 million to make. Not a blockbuster. New Line isn't a major studio.

lolife67 posted...

Being black wasn't at all essential to the character of Blade.

You do know that Blade in the comics was also black, right?
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Yeah Blade wasn't a movie about black people in a black country

It was just a movie with a black lead.
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DirkDiggles posted...

lolife67 posted...

Being black wasn't at all essential to the character of Blade.

You do know that Blade in the comics was also black, right?

Which doesn't actually play a part in his story. He could be any nationality and the story would play out the same. It's not essential to his character like it is with BP, Storm, Luke Cage, etc.

Maybe they shouldve renamed the character to Black Blade so theyd understand that hes black.
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Blade feels like a token.
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lolife67 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

lolife67 posted...

Blade wasn't a blockbuster made by a major studio.

It was written by Goyer, distributed by New Line Cinema, released in the summer, and made over $100M worldwide. It was absolutely a blockbuster.

It cost $45 million to make. Not a blockbuster. New Line isn't a major studio.

I don't see why it's such a big deal to say it was a blockbuster. It appears on multiple blockbuster lists. It hits all the notes. Just because it didn't have the biggest ROI doesn't mean it's suddenly something else.

https://letterboxd.com/moviemaestro/list/summer-blockbusters-of-1998/
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls053442021/
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s0nicfan posted...

boxington posted...

Black Panther looks to be a higher quality and scale than the ones you've posted

Hopefully. That doesn't make it special, though. It just makes it good.

I think it's special in the sense that it's a so-called "black movie" with the same budget and marketing as any other
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boxington posted...

s0nicfan posted...

boxington posted...

Black Panther looks to be a higher quality and scale than the ones you've posted

Hopefully. That doesn't make it special, though. It just makes it good.

I think it's special in the sense that it's a so-called "black movie" with the same budget and marketing as any other

Bad Boys 2.
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ilovuuu posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Too many white people in blade. Wakanda though is a black ethno nationalist paradise.

you didn't even watch the movie

in the end they admit wakanda was wrong the whole time and open up to the world.

I've seen multiple reviews on it. And yes i know the ending but it's not a shared veiw by all Wakandans.
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s0nicfan posted...

boxington posted...

s0nicfan posted...

boxington posted...

Black Panther looks to be a higher quality and scale than the ones you've posted

Hopefully. That doesn't make it special, though. It just makes it good.

I think it's special in the sense that it's a so-called "black movie" with the same budget and marketing as any other

Bad Boys 2.

tbh, the only parts that I saw were outrageous or disgusting

I wonder if BP would get the same attention if it was rated R and not part of the MCU
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Identity politics and the myth of racial oppression weren't a thing in the pre-Obama era. People are much more obsessed about race in 2018 than they were in the 1990s, and it's a giant step back.
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The Admiral posted...

Identity politics and the myth of racial oppression weren't a thing in the pre-Obama era. People are much more obsessed about race in 2018 than they were in the 1990s, and it's a giant step back.

LOL
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I'm pretty sure most people didn't know Blade was a "super hero" tbqh

Hell, I'm not sure people even know it today.
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ilovuuu posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Too many white people in blade. Wakanda though is a black ethno nationalist paradise.

you didn't even watch the movie

in the end they admit wakanda was wrong the whole time and open up to the world.

Which has always been one of BP's themes but some people just aren't gonna drop the whole "BP is a nationalist hero" meme for some reason.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

The Admiral posted...

Identity politics and the myth of racial oppression weren't a thing in the pre-Obama era. People are much more obsessed about race in 2018 than they were in the 1990s, and it's a giant step back.

LOL

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I wasn't aware that black people were extra excited about Black Panther.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

ilovuuu posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Too many white people in blade. Wakanda though is a black ethno nationalist paradise.

you didn't even watch the movie

in the end they admit wakanda was wrong the whole time and open up to the world.

I've seen multiple reviews on it. And yes i know the ending but it's not a shared veiw by all Wakandans.

all that matters is that it's a view held by Black Panther
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The Admiral posted...

Identity politics and the myth of racial oppression weren't a thing in the pre-Obama era. People are much more obsessed about race in 2018 than they were in the 1990s, and it's a giant step back.

This guy used to be a Lead Mod

The Admiral posted...

Identity politics and the myth of racial oppression weren't a thing in the pre-Obama era. People are much more obsessed about race in 2018 than they were in the 1990s, and it's a giant step back.

I don't understand how the racial oppression narrative became so much stronger in the Obama era. Shouldn't the election of the first black president have definitively ended it? If a black man can be president of the United States then there is nothing holding them back anymore.
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its a nonsense post. social media is much bigger in the 2010s than pre obama era.

everyone is on the internet now.

we all know now that we all hate each other. that's the only big difference.

The Admiral posted...

Identity politics and the myth of racial oppression weren't a thing in the pre-Obama era. People are much more obsessed about race in 2018 than they were in the 1990s, and it's a giant step back.

Well this is a laughably stupid take. Racism and issues pertaining to that absolutely were a thing then, regardless of your attempts to pretend else wise
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AmericaTheBrave posted...

The Admiral posted...

Identity politics and the myth of racial oppression weren't a thing in the pre-Obama era. People are much more obsessed about race in 2018 than they were in the 1990s, and it's a giant step back.

I don't understand how the racial oppression narrative became so much stronger in the Obama era. Shouldn't the election of the first black president have definitively ended it? If a black man can be president of the United States then there is nothing holding them back anymore.

It became stronger because systematic racial oppression was almost impossible to still justify after a black president was elected, and yet racial disparities didn't really disappear. If anything, they grew wider after the recession of 2009. Instead of being honest and accepting responsibility for the factors that were keeping that disparity in place, it was easier to fabricate a racial oppression boogeyman and get young people fixated on identity politics. This is ironically hurting the very people these progressives like to say they care about.
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lolife67 posted...

It wasn't based around African-American/African culture.

Wait - do people think that Wakanda is a realistic portrayal of African culture?
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The Admiral posted...

It became stronger because systematic racial oppression was almost impossible to still justify after a black president was elected, and yet racial disparities didn't really disappear. If anything, they grew wider after the recession of 2009. Instead of being honest and accepting responsibility for the factors that were keeping that disparity in place, it was easier to fabricate a racial oppression boogeyman and get young people fixated on identity politics. This is ironically hurting the very people these progressives like to say they care about.

Don't you claim to be from NYC? Of course you thought racism was gone before Obama, you're completely out of touch with middle America
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

The Admiral posted...

Identity politics and the myth of racial oppression weren't a thing in the pre-Obama era. People are much more obsessed about race in 2018 than they were in the 1990s, and it's a giant step back.

Well this is a laughably stupid take. Racism and issues pertaining to that absolutely were a thing then, regardless of your attempts to pretend else wise

People were claiming white people can't dress as minorities for Halloween in the '90's?
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darkjedilink posted...

lolife67 posted...

It wasn't based around African-American/African culture.

Wait - do people think that Wakanda is a realistic portrayal of African culture?

idk if anyone believes that, but it is inspired by African cultures.

a futuristic/utoupian take.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

The Admiral posted...

It became stronger because systematic racial oppression was almost impossible to still justify after a black president was elected, and yet racial disparities didn't really disappear. If anything, they grew wider after the recession of 2009. Instead of being honest and accepting responsibility for the factors that were keeping that disparity in place, it was easier to fabricate a racial oppression boogeyman and get young people fixated on identity politics. This is ironically hurting the very people these progressives like to say they care about.

Don't you claim to be from NYC? Of course you thought racism was gone before Obama, you're completely out of touch with middle America

Racism was never gone and probably never will be gone. The problem is systematic racism -- the ability for one racial group to collectively hold another racial group down. That does not exist in 2018 and hasn't for quite some time.
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boxington posted...

s0nicfan posted...

boxington posted...

s0nicfan posted...

boxington posted...

Black Panther looks to be a higher quality and scale than the ones you've posted

Hopefully. That doesn't make it special, though. It just makes it good.

I think it's special in the sense that it's a so-called "black movie" with the same budget and marketing as any other

Bad Boys 2.

tbh, the only parts that I saw were outrageous or disgusting

I wonder if BP would get the same attention if it was rated R and not part of the MCU

Absolutely not. The MCU is the money making machine right now, and everyone wants a piece of the pie. The only reason people are calling BP a "moment" is because they think they'll be able to carve off a corner of Disney's machine to make their own stuff.

EDIT: But just to be clear, regardless of how good BB2 is, it had the same budget and marketing as any other AAA movie which was the key point.
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boxington posted...

darkjedilink posted...

lolife67 posted...

It wasn't based around African-American/African culture.

Wait - do people think that Wakanda is a realistic portrayal of African culture?

idk if anyone believes that, but it is inspired by African cultures.

a futuristic/utoupian take.

Some of the people making the movie have openly said this is what Africa would be like if not for colonialism
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darkjedilink posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

The Admiral posted...

Identity politics and the myth of racial oppression weren't a thing in the pre-Obama era. People are much more obsessed about race in 2018 than they were in the 1990s, and it's a giant step back.

Well this is a laughably stupid take. Racism and issues pertaining to that absolutely were a thing then, regardless of your attempts to pretend else wise

People were claiming white people can't dress as minorities for Halloween in the '90's?

If they did, they were a lot easier to ignore because no social media.

Social media gave A LOT of idiots a megaphone. This cannot be understated.
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darkjedilink posted...

lolife67 posted...

It wasn't based around African-American/African culture.

Wait - do people think that Wakanda is a realistic portrayal of African culture?

Are you seriously asking this? Of course I don't lol

However, it's clearly inspired by various actual African cultures.

"Black people already got a movie. Why aren't they satisfied?"
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hockeybub89 posted...

"Black people already got a movie. Why aren't they satisfied?"

Take a step back, stop huffing your own farts, and realize that nobody is saying, thinking, or desiring that.
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