Current Events > "Resist white supremacy" sign prompts backlash at farm

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/resist-white-supremacy-a-sign-a-farm-and-the-fury-that-
followed/2018/02/13/47e7dfa2-10e0-11e8-9065-e55346f6de81_story.html?utm_term=.296a04c32b5e

...About an hour [after the sign went up], a message from a woman named Rebecca, whose Facebook profile was an image that read TEAM USA, popped up in Cox Farms Facebook Messenger inbox: Whatever your own personal agendas are none us want to see them on display at a place we once enjoyed going to for tradition. Its TRULY disappointing.

The vitriol only intensified in the hours that followed, which baffled Aaron. Who, other than a white supremacist, would be offended by a message condemning white supremacy? She also understood, though, that this is America in 2018, a time of such fierce division that even voicing opposition to the ugliest beliefs could be twisted or taken out of context.
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Their first experience with real controversy came in 2000 when conservative activists accused the farm of promoting gay rights because of two rainbow flags that flew over tunnels made of hay. The flags hadnt been bought for that reason, but Aarons parents, Gina and Eric, learned what they symbolized and embraced the idea. Aaron, a lesbian, had come out to them five years before the upheaval.

At some point it looked like we could be facing a significant impact on our business, Aaron recalled, but the family didnt flinch, and instead rallied supporters to their cause.

It was a record-breaking season, she said. By far the best wed ever had.

Aaron, whose partner is of mixed race, also didnt back down after the threat of a boycott three years ago over the Black Lives Matter poster she put in a window of their home, which stands in the middle of the sprawling property.
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For Aaron, though, the blowback presented an opportunity. To change peoples minds, even by just a degree or two, required communication that was respectful but honest. And here was a chance to talk to people who disagreed with her lots of them.

Resist white supremacy is not an inclusive message, complained Patty Weston Meizlish. When you single out a group of people you exclude them. This is a sad message.

Yes, generally speaking, we are comfortable excluding white supremacists, responded Aaron, who studied psychology at Smith College in Massachusetts. If you know some who would be interested in dialoguing with us, please have them contact us!

Shannon Lee Sibley contended that she also supported fighting hate groups but wouldnt spend her money at the farm because it would never post a Blue Lives matter sign in support of police.

Youre right, Shannon we do not support Blue Lives Matter. . . . police lives are already and by default valued in our society, she wrote. Black lives are not, so we believe that a declaration that Black Lives Matter is necessary and important.

So black supremacy is okay then? asked Lisa Lewis. This is not a message of love, this is a message out to divide people even more. I would never ever visit your farm because you try to force your views on your customers. That is WRONG no matter what you say.

Lisa, when we talk about white supremacy, were referring to a systemic racism that is much deeper and more pervasive than any individual or group could be, Aaron replied. Black people do not have the institutional power in our society to benefit from so-called black supremacy. It just doesnt work like that.

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Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.
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it's not singling out a group. it's asking everyone (including whites) to resist a particular type of oppression.

Antifar posted...

The vitriol only intensified in the hours that followed, which baffled Aaron. Who, other than a white supremacist, would be offended by a message condemning white supremacy?

Who, indeed?
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It's okay to be white.
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Also, WashPo provides short links so you don't need to break up the URL like that:
http://wapo.st/2BsoRXE
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The Admiral posted...

Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa s***heads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

Yeah resisting white supremacy is something that drives you mad.
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The Admiral posted...

Also, WashPo provides short links so you don't need to break up the URL like that:
http://wapo.st/2BsoRXE

This is good to know.
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Singling out supremacists is hardly a bad thing, regardless of what sort of supremacist they are.
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The Admiral posted...

Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

You can't be serious...
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M_Live posted...

The Admiral posted...

Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

Why are you defending white supremacists come on dude

No one is defending white supremacists. White supremacy is a non-issue in the US, so there is nothing to "resist." This is an exaggerated term that's just used as a cover to shit on Trump or behave like the Antifa idiots do.

You guys are so great with deciphering code language when it pertains to minorities, use that same part of your brains on this one.
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The fact that there are these types out there who truly think that there's this nefarious white power movement growing like the nazi party that they needed a sign about it only proves two things.
That they're truly that dumb. And that they listen to far left apocalyptic liberal bs online or on tv.

Both good reasons to never give then my business.
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M_Live posted...

The Admiral posted...

Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

Why are you defending white supremacists come on dude

Why, indeed? I mean, I know why. Any reasonable person should know why, for that matter.
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cjsdowg posted...

The Admiral posted...

Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa s***heads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

Yeah resisting white supremacy is something that drives you mad.

Resisting white supremacy is why Trump won!!!! /s
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The Admiral posted...

M_Live posted...

The Admiral posted...

Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

Why are you defending white supremacists come on dude

No one is defending white supremacists. White supremacy is a non-issue in the US, so there is nothing to "resist." This is an exaggerated term that's just used as a cover to shit on Trump or behave like the Antifa idiots do.

You guys are so great with deciphering code language when it pertains to minorities, use that same part of your brains on this one.

"White supremacy isn't an issue" says the white guy who has expressed explicit support for racial profiling. And after two years of increased rates of anti-lgbt and racially motivated crimes that happen to coincide perfectly with the rise of Trump.
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The Admiral posted...

No one is defending white supremacists. White supremacy is a non-issue in the US, so there is nothing to "resist." This is an exaggerated term that's just used as a cover to s*** on Trump or behave like the Antifa idiots do.

You guys are so great with deciphering code language when it pertains to minorities, use that same part of your brains on this one.

Got dammit,we literally have Nazi's killing people and you suggest that it is none issue .
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EternalDivide posted...

The fact that there are these types out there who truly think that there's this nefarious white power movement growing like the nazi party that they needed a sign about it only proves two things.
That they're truly that dumb. And that they listen to far left apocalyptic liberal bs online or on tv.

Both good reasons to never give then my business.

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2017/02/15/hate-groups-increase-second-consecutive-year-trump-electrifies-radical-right
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gunplagirl posted...

The Admiral posted...

M_Live posted...

The Admiral posted...

Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

Why are you defending white supremacists come on dude

No one is defending white supremacists. White supremacy is a non-issue in the US, so there is nothing to "resist." This is an exaggerated term that's just used as a cover to shit on Trump or behave like the Antifa idiots do.

You guys are so great with deciphering code language when it pertains to minorities, use that same part of your brains on this one.

"White supremacy isn't an issue" says the white guy who has expressed explicit support for racial profiling. And after two years of increased rates of anti-lgbt and racially motivated crimes that happen to coincide perfectly with the rise of Trump.

You don't even understand your own talking points anymore. Anti-trans and anti-LGBT violence is significantly skewed toward the black community, and they're charged with the majority of hate crimes for those attacks. Please elaborate on what this has to do with "white supremacy."

I mean look, we get it, your life didn't turn out the way you wanted and you're miserable, but fighting these boogeymen isn't going to help you.
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lol admiral
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The Admiral posted...

"Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense

Hahahaha
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The Admiral posted...

gunplagirl posted...

The Admiral posted...

M_Live posted...

The Admiral posted...

Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

Why are you defending white supremacists come on dude

No one is defending white supremacists. White supremacy is a non-issue in the US, so there is nothing to "resist." This is an exaggerated term that's just used as a cover to shit on Trump or behave like the Antifa idiots do.

You guys are so great with deciphering code language when it pertains to minorities, use that same part of your brains on this one.

"White supremacy isn't an issue" says the white guy who has expressed explicit support for racial profiling. And after two years of increased rates of anti-lgbt and racially motivated crimes that happen to coincide perfectly with the rise of Trump.

You don't even understand your own talking points anymore. Anti-trans and anti-LGBT violence is significantly skewed toward the black community, and they're charged with the majority of hate crimes for those attacks. Please elaborate on what this has to do with "white supremacy."

I mean look, we get it, your life didn't turn out the way you wanted and you're miserable, but fighting these boogeymen isn't going to help you.

I guess we're just going to ignore the centuries of white colonialism that forced such ideas in to the heads of those they subjugated? You'll find most people of color are also Christian, yet you'd be hard pressed to concede that there's literal calls for violence against lgbt people in the holy Scriptures of judeo-Christian lore. That is to say, you at taking the end result and ignoring the contributing factors.

And yes, the increase in hate crimes has everything to do with the rise of hate groups. White supremacists, particularly neo Nazis, adopt strong anti-lgbt and anti-racial minority views. That's a core value they raise and bring up frequently.
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-Gavirulax- posted...

Don't really see a problem with this, it's about as inane as "it's okay to be white" and should be fine as long as it's not wrongly aimed at someone or their property.

It's never been punishable to be white
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gunplagirl posted...

I guess we're just going to ignore the centuries of white colonialism that forced such ideas in to the heads of those they subjugated? You'll find most people of color are also Christian, yet you'd be hard pressed to concede that there's literal calls for violence against lgbt people in the holy Scriptures of judeo-Christian lore. That is to say, you at taking the end result and ignoring the contributing factors.

Ah, yes, the old "black violence and homophobia in 2018 are the fault of white people" excuse.

Like I said, keep swinging at those boogeymen.
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Addy and Zikten back-to-back while they're both fighting on the most dumbass hill imaginable to die on.
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The Admiral posted...

Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

SMH
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The Admiral posted...

gunplagirl posted...

I guess we're just going to ignore the centuries of white colonialism that forced such ideas in to the heads of those they subjugated? You'll find most people of color are also Christian, yet you'd be hard pressed to concede that there's literal calls for violence against lgbt people in the holy Scriptures of judeo-Christian lore. That is to say, you at taking the end result and ignoring the contributing factors.

Ah, yes, the old "black violence and homophobia in 2018 are the fault of white people" excuse.

Like I said, keep swinging at those boogeymen.

Hating people of color and hating lgbt people was a common virtue of colonialism. That virtue was forced upon their victims who survived being massacred, as was the forced adoption of Christianity which itself is heavily anti-lgbt.

Those are all true facts, and not merely from a certain perspective.

Incidentally, you bringing up the "people of color are charged with a disproportionate amount of lgbt hate crimes" line is adorable since you've refused to acknowledge that our legal system has a long history of targeting minorities much more often and much harsher than white offenders for same crimes with same criminal backgrounds. So like. Maybe try educating yourself?
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-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

Don't really see a problem with this, it's about as inane as "it's okay to be white" and should be fine as long as it's not wrongly aimed at someone or their property.

It's never been punishable to be white

Where did I say it had been?
Far left and right are way too eager to find offense at the most trivial of shit.

Being white is a non-issue. There's zero point in bringing up "it's okay to be white" because it entails it's ever been bad to be white.

The line itself is commonly used to help slowly normalize and reinforce white supremacy, under the guise that white people are under attack. But I guess a line that's mirroring white nationalist recruitment propaganda would fall in to that area by design.
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gunplagirl posted...

Incidentally, you bringing up the "people of color are charged with a disproportionate amount of lgbt hate crimes" line is adorable since you've refused to acknowledge that our legal system has a long history of targeting minorities much more often and much harsher than white offenders for same crimes with same criminal backgrounds. So like. Maybe try educating yourself?

It's p common for him and his ilk to cite some statistic that pins something negative on minority groups but refuse to acknowledge things that may have influenced such a statistic. Why, if I didn't know better, I'd assume they believe there is something inherent about such groups that makes them engage in such activity!
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NinjaBreakfast posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Incidentally, you bringing up the "people of color are charged with a disproportionate amount of lgbt hate crimes" line is adorable since you've refused to acknowledge that our legal system has a long history of targeting minorities much more often and much harsher than white offenders for same crimes with same criminal backgrounds. So like. Maybe try educating yourself?

It's p common for him and his ilk to cite some statistic that pins something negative on minority groups but refuse to acknowledge things that may have influenced such a statistic. Why, if I didn't know better, I'd assume they believe there is something inherent about such groups that makes them engage in such activity!

Careful now, you're getting in to that territory where they'll accuse you of that one logical fallacy where you attack a person instead of their ideas. And then they'll call you a liberal but they mean it as an insult.

Much ado about nothing burgers.
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I thought " it's okay to be white " was used more by progressives trying to encourage paranoid white alarmists to calm down instead of panicking that their race is under attack by <insert political message>.

In either case, it is indeed okay to be <insert race>.
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-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

Don't really see a problem with this, it's about as inane as "it's okay to be white" and should be fine as long as it's not wrongly aimed at someone or their property.

It's never been punishable to be white

Where did I say it had been?
Far left and right are way too eager to find offense at the most trivial of shit.

Being white is a non-issue. There's zero point in bringing up "it's okay to be white" because it entails it's ever been bad to be white.

The line itself is commonly used to help slowly normalize and reinforce white supremacy, under the guise that white people are under attack. But I guess a line that's mirroring white nationalist recruitment propaganda would fall in to that area by design.

It's okay to be white.

Show me where it was ever not okay to be white
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The Admiral posted...

M_Live posted...

The Admiral posted...

Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

Why are you defending white supremacists come on dude

No one is defending white supremacists. White supremacy is a non-issue in the US, so there is nothing to "resist."

"it's not an issue for me because I have the privilege of opting out due to not being on their radar. only my concerns matter."

basically
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gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

Don't really see a problem with this, it's about as inane as "it's okay to be white" and should be fine as long as it's not wrongly aimed at someone or their property.

It's never been punishable to be white

Where did I say it had been?
Far left and right are way too eager to find offense at the most trivial of shit.

Being white is a non-issue. There's zero point in bringing up "it's okay to be white" because it entails it's ever been bad to be white.

The line itself is commonly used to help slowly normalize and reinforce white supremacy, under the guise that white people are under attack. But I guess a line that's mirroring white nationalist recruitment propaganda would fall in to that area by design.

It's okay to be white.

Show me where it was ever not okay to be white

It never had to be not okay.
That's kind of the point.

The phrase still serves a purpose as a subtle (sometimes condescending) reminder to white people that there's no need for them to panic over the future of their racial demographic.

You said it yourself: being white is a non-issue.
"It's okay to be white" is basically another way to say that.
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gunplagirl posted...

That virtue was forced upon their victims who survived being massacred, as was the forced adoption of Christianity which itself is heavily anti-lgbt.

Christian anti-homosexuality predated European colonialism in Africa by centuries. Ethiopia, which was never colonized by Europeans (other than a brief Italian occupation in the 40s), still has the death penalty for homosexuality (as well as the most anti-gay bias incidents in Africa according to surveys). Christianity there dates back to the 4th century.

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

Don't really see a problem with this, it's about as inane as "it's okay to be white" and should be fine as long as it's not wrongly aimed at someone or their property.

It's never been punishable to be white

Where did I say it had been?
Far left and right are way too eager to find offense at the most trivial of shit.

Being white is a non-issue. There's zero point in bringing up "it's okay to be white" because it entails it's ever been bad to be white.

The line itself is commonly used to help slowly normalize and reinforce white supremacy, under the guise that white people are under attack. But I guess a line that's mirroring white nationalist recruitment propaganda would fall in to that area by design.

It's okay to be white.

Show me where it was ever not okay to be white

Did you fail American history? There was the idea of "the right type of white".
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Admiral in such a pissy mood over this lmao
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EbonTitanium posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

Don't really see a problem with this, it's about as inane as "it's okay to be white" and should be fine as long as it's not wrongly aimed at someone or their property.

It's never been punishable to be white

Where did I say it had been?
Far left and right are way too eager to find offense at the most trivial of shit.

Being white is a non-issue. There's zero point in bringing up "it's okay to be white" because it entails it's ever been bad to be white.

The line itself is commonly used to help slowly normalize and reinforce white supremacy, under the guise that white people are under attack. But I guess a line that's mirroring white nationalist recruitment propaganda would fall in to that area by design.

It's okay to be white.

Show me where it was ever not okay to be white

Did you fail American history? There was the idea of "the right type of white".

elaborate
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EbonTitanium posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

gunplagirl posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

Don't really see a problem with this, it's about as inane as "it's okay to be white" and should be fine as long as it's not wrongly aimed at someone or their property.

It's never been punishable to be white

Where did I say it had been?
Far left and right are way too eager to find offense at the most trivial of shit.

Being white is a non-issue. There's zero point in bringing up "it's okay to be white" because it entails it's ever been bad to be white.

The line itself is commonly used to help slowly normalize and reinforce white supremacy, under the guise that white people are under attack. But I guess a line that's mirroring white nationalist recruitment propaganda would fall in to that area by design.

It's okay to be white.

Show me where it was ever not okay to be white

Did you fail American history? There was the idea of "the right type of white".

You mean how Irish, and Scottish, and Italians weren't white enough until a few decades later when they were because of their united hatred of black people?
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ClockworkHare posted...

I thought " it's okay to be white " was used more by progressives trying to encourage paranoid white alarmists to calm down instead of panicking that their race is under attack by <insert political message>.

In either case, it is indeed okay to be <insert race>.

Nah, it was popularized by 4chan and other trolls as a way to incite a response and attempt to find another reason to laugh at their SJW boogeymen. It was a shit troll campagin from the start
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gunplagirl meltdown ITT
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