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Crayon_Lover 01/10/18 2:24:55 PM #101:	Caution999 posted... The Golden Globes just went after white people all night long Why would anyone ever care about what the Golden globes say --- ?udd s pp oH <cite>Crayon_Lover posted [p:893778432] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> The Golden Globes just went after white people all night long</quote> Why would anyone ever care about what the Golden globes say</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 01/10/18 2:26:43 PM #102:	Crayon_Lover posted... Caution999 posted... The Golden Globes just went after white people all night long Why would anyone ever care about what the Golden globes say especially us folks in flyover country --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:893778536] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crayon_Lover posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> The Golden Globes just went after white people all night long</quote> Why would anyone ever care about what the Golden globes say</quote> especially us folks in flyover country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 01/10/18 2:27:35 PM #103:	NadYobWoc posted... Caution999 posted... NadYobWoc posted... Caution999 posted... And why are you guys so obsessed with having a token black/asian/etc guy in every gathering or TV show or job? Why can't we get the person who's most qualified for X thing simply be designated to X thing? NadYobWoc posted... Why are conservatives so obsessed with identity politics @Caution999 The Golden Globes just went after white people all night long, and we're the ones who are obsessed with identity politics? What about the nothingburger guy from CNN? He called the election a "whitelash". It was a whitelash, I.e. a political event based on identity. Identity politics. Your focus on race and gender proves his point. Then how come most African Americans didn't come out to vote for Hillary but came out ten fold for Obama? --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:893778591] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>And why are you guys so obsessed with having a token black/asian/etc guy in every gathering or TV show or job? Why can't we get the person who's most qualified for X thing simply be designated to X thing?</quote> <cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote>Why are conservatives so obsessed with identity politics</quote> @Caution999</quote> The Golden Globes just went after white people all night long, and we're the ones who are obsessed with identity politics? What about the nothingburger guy from CNN? He called the election a "whitelash".</quote> It was a whitelash, I.e. a political event based on identity. Identity politics. Your focus on race and gender proves his point.</quote> Then how come most African Americans didn't come out to vote for Hillary but came out ten fold for Obama?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 01/10/18 2:30:58 PM #104:	Caution999 posted... NadYobWoc posted... Caution999 posted... NadYobWoc posted... Caution999 posted... And why are you guys so obsessed with having a token black/asian/etc guy in every gathering or TV show or job? Why can't we get the person who's most qualified for X thing simply be designated to X thing? NadYobWoc posted... Why are conservatives so obsessed with identity politics @Caution999 The Golden Globes just went after white people all night long, and we're the ones who are obsessed with identity politics? What about the nothingburger guy from CNN? He called the election a "whitelash". It was a whitelash, I.e. a political event based on identity. Identity politics. Your focus on race and gender proves his point. Then how come most African Americans didn't come out to vote for Hillary but came out ten fold for Obama? Uhh...because they didn't like Hilary? What does that have to do with you openly admitting your politics are based in identity? --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:893778807] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>And why are you guys so obsessed with having a token black/asian/etc guy in every gathering or TV show or job? Why can't we get the person who's most qualified for X thing simply be designated to X thing?</quote> <cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote>Why are conservatives so obsessed with identity politics</quote> @Caution999</quote> The Golden Globes just went after white people all night long, and we're the ones who are obsessed with identity politics? What about the nothingburger guy from CNN? He called the election a "whitelash".</quote> It was a whitelash, I.e. a political event based on identity. Identity politics. Your focus on race and gender proves his point.</quote> Then how come most African Americans didn't come out to vote for Hillary but came out ten fold for Obama?</quote> Uhh...because they didn't like Hilary? What does that have to do with you openly admitting your politics are based in identity?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 01/10/18 2:32:03 PM #105:	My point is that the straight white guy is now a scapegoat for the left. Everything is the fault of the privileged white man, and they're the reason why people must suffer! --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:893778880] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote>My point is that the straight white guy is now a scapegoat for the left. Everything is the fault of the privileged white man, and they're the reason why people must suffer!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 01/10/18 2:33:34 PM #106:	Caution999 posted... My point is that the straight white guy is now a scapegoat for the left. Everything is the fault of the privileged white man, and they're the reason why people must suffer! For the extreme parts of the left, just like minorities are a scapegoat for extreme parts of the right. Dont you consider yourself to be better than your most radical opponents? --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:893778963] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>My point is that the straight white guy is now a scapegoat for the left. Everything is the fault of the privileged white man, and they're the reason why people must suffer!</quote> For the extreme parts of the left, just like minorities are a scapegoat for extreme parts of the right. Dont you consider yourself to be better than your most radical opponents?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 01/10/18 2:33:49 PM #107:	Caution999 posted... My point is that the straight white guy is now a scapegoat for the left. Everything is the fault of the privileged white man, and they're the reason why people must suffer! So which democratic politicians have made white people scapegoats? <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:893778978] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>My point is that the straight white guy is now a scapegoat for the left. Everything is the fault of the privileged white man, and they're the reason why people must suffer!</quote> So which democratic politicians have made white people scapegoats?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 01/10/18 2:34:30 PM #108:	Caution999 posted... Then how come most African Americans didn't come out to vote for Hillary but came out ten fold for Obama? Tenfold has a meaning; Obama didn't get 10X the black votes as Hillary. Those who did turn out voted for her in roughly the same proportion, and her smaller vote total reflects losses among all races. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:893779038] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Then how come most African Americans didn't come out to vote for Hillary but came out ten fold for Obama? </quote> Tenfold has a meaning; Obama didn't get 10X the black votes as Hillary. Those who did turn out voted for her in roughly the same proportion, and her smaller vote total reflects losses among all races.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 01/10/18 2:34:51 PM #109:	I mean, Hillary did say most Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables ;) --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:893779059] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote>I mean, Hillary did say most Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables ;)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 01/10/18 2:34:54 PM #110:	NadYobWoc posted... Caution999 posted... My point is that the straight white guy is now a scapegoat for the left. Everything is the fault of the privileged white man, and they're the reason why people must suffer! For the extreme parts of the left, just like minorities are a scapegoat for extreme parts of the right. Dont you consider yourself to be better than your most radical opponents? i mentioned this over a page ago and he completely ignored it --- Playing: Dishonored: Death of the Outsider (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:893779064] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>My point is that the straight white guy is now a scapegoat for the left. Everything is the fault of the privileged white man, and they're the reason why people must suffer!</quote> For the extreme parts of the left, just like minorities are a scapegoat for extreme parts of the right. Dont you consider yourself to be better than your most radical opponents?</quote> i mentioned this over a page ago and he completely ignored it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 01/10/18 2:35:26 PM #111:	Caution999 posted... I mean, Hillary did say most Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables ;) yup, they are. i dont see what that has to do with the topic though --- Playing: Dishonored: Death of the Outsider (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:893779101] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, Hillary did say most Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables ;)</quote> yup, they are. i dont see what that has to do with the topic though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 01/10/18 2:35:45 PM #112:	Caution999 posted... I mean, Hillary did say most Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables ;) She was right --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:893779117] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, Hillary did say most Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables ;)</quote> She was right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 01/10/18 2:36:22 PM #113:	Caution999 posted... I mean, Hillary did say most Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables ;) Do you think she should have been PC about that and hidden her true feelings? I think it's good that she spoke her mind. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:893779153] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, Hillary did say most Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables ;)</quote> Do you think she should have been PC about that and hidden her true feelings? I think it's good that she spoke her mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/10/18 2:36:27 PM #114:	Antifar posted... Caution999 posted... Then how come most African Americans didn't come out to vote for Hillary but came out ten fold for Obama? Tenfold has a meaning; Obama didn't get 10X the black votes as Hillary. Those who did turn out voted for her in roughly the same proportion, and her smaller vote total reflects losses among all races. Im curious on the difference --- Waaaah. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893779156] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Then how come most African Americans didn't come out to vote for Hillary but came out ten fold for Obama? </quote> Tenfold has a meaning; Obama didn't get 10X the black votes as Hillary. Those who did turn out voted for her in roughly the same proportion, and her smaller vote total reflects losses among all races.</quote> Im curious on the difference</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 2:39:05 PM #115:	@DevsBro posted... They have friends who would get free stuff. I mean did you even think for two seconds? Then couldn't someone vote republican because their buddy is a billionaire? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893779318] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>@DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>They have friends who would get free stuff. I mean did you even think for two seconds?</quote> Then couldn't someone vote republican because their buddy is a billionaire?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crayon_Lover 01/10/18 2:39:28 PM #116:	Intro2Logic posted... Caution999 posted... I mean, Hillary did say most Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables ;) Do you think she should have been PC about that and hidden her true feelings? I think it's good that she spoke her mind. That's only ok when Trump does it --- ?udd s pp oH <cite>Crayon_Lover posted [p:893779347] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, Hillary did say most Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables ;)</quote> Do you think she should have been PC about that and hidden her true feelings? I think it's good that she spoke her mind.</quote> That's only ok when Trump does it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 01/10/18 2:39:43 PM #117:	Giant_Aspirin posted... NadYobWoc posted... Caution999 posted... My point is that the straight white guy is now a scapegoat for the left. Everything is the fault of the privileged white man, and they're the reason why people must suffer! For the extreme parts of the left, just like minorities are a scapegoat for extreme parts of the right. Dont you consider yourself to be better than your most radical opponents? i mentioned this over a page ago and he completely ignored it Lets help him. @Caution999 --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:893779358] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>My point is that the straight white guy is now a scapegoat for the left. Everything is the fault of the privileged white man, and they're the reason why people must suffer!</quote> For the extreme parts of the left, just like minorities are a scapegoat for extreme parts of the right. Dont you consider yourself to be better than your most radical opponents?</quote> i mentioned this over a page ago and he completely ignored it</quote> Lets help him. @Caution999</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 01/10/18 2:42:02 PM #118:	Well, I'd say I am, but when the party itself, starts getting more and more...well, blatant in their hatred based off skin color or supposed privilege... Question: Why does nobody talk about Obama being half white? Answer: Because there's no privilege in being white. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:893779489] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote>Well, I'd say I am, but when the party itself, starts getting more and more...well, blatant in their hatred based off skin color or supposed privilege... Question: Why does nobody talk about Obama being half white? Answer: Because there's no privilege in being white.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 01/10/18 2:44:57 PM #119:	Caution999 posted... Well, I'd say I am, but when the party itself, starts getting more and more...well, blatant in their hatred based off skin color or supposed privilege... Question: Why does nobody talk about Obama being half white? Answer: Because there's no privilege in being white. So which Democratic politicians are scapegoating white people? It's a reason for you to not vote democratic so surely you must have a ton of examples and not just be able to pull one or two out of the ether when you get pushed far enough on this question that you have to put up or shut up. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:893779683] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Well, I'd say I am, but when the party itself, starts getting more and more...well, blatant in their hatred based off skin color or supposed privilege... Question: Why does nobody talk about Obama being half white? Answer: Because there's no privilege in being white.</quote> So which Democratic politicians are scapegoating white people? It's a reason for you to not vote democratic so surely you must have a ton of examples and not just be able to pull one or two out of the ether when you get pushed far enough on this question that you have to put up or shut up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 01/10/18 2:45:31 PM #120:	Caution999 posted... Question: Why does nobody talk about Obama being half white? Conservatives do this all the time. Obama's "half-white" status has no meaning given historical context in the United States. At no point have mixed people gotten half-credit; Obama is treated as black, and would have been throughout history. That may change in the future, but pretending it has already is willfully ignorant. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:893779710] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Question: Why does nobody talk about Obama being half white? </quote> Conservatives do this all the time. Obama's "half-white" status has no meaning given historical context in the United States. At no point have mixed people gotten half-credit; Obama is treated as black, and would have been throughout history. That may change in the future, but pretending it has already is willfully ignorant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 01/10/18 2:46:18 PM #121:	LiberalFAQs needs his meds. --- Currently playing: Breath of the Wild, Xenoblade Chronicles, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario Galaxy, Resident Evil 4 <cite>davyheinz posted [p:893779759] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote>LiberalFAQs needs his meds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 01/10/18 2:46:41 PM #122:	Caution999 posted... Well, I'd say I am, but when the party itself, starts getting more and more...well, blatant in their hatred based off skin color or supposed privilege... So why are you a republican then? Republicans have becoming more vocal in their hatred towards blacks. Obama really set them off. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:893779775] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Well, I'd say I am, but when the party itself, starts getting more and more...well, blatant in their hatred based off skin color or supposed privilege...</quote> So why are you a republican then? Republicans have becoming more vocal in their hatred towards blacks. Obama really set them off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 01/10/18 2:46:52 PM #123:	Caution999 posted... Well, I'd say I am, but when the party itself, starts getting more and more...well, blatant in their hatred based off skin color or supposed privilege... Ignoring your unrelated tangent, this still doesnt answer the question at all. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:893779781] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Well, I'd say I am, but when the party itself, starts getting more and more...well, blatant in their hatred based off skin color or supposed privilege...</quote> Ignoring your unrelated tangent, this still doesnt answer the question at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FigureOfSpeech 01/10/18 2:47:13 PM #124:	NibeIungsnarf posted... Republican lawmakers are religious zealots and racists. This is why I vote Democrat as a straight white male --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>FigureOfSpeech posted [p:893779805] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Republican lawmakers are religious zealots and racists.</quote> This is why I vote Democrat as a straight white male</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 2:47:15 PM #125:	Caution999 posted... Question: Why does nobody talk about Obama being half white? Answer: Because there's no privilege in being white. People did mention it, negatively, to discredit him being fully black. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893779808] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Question: Why does nobody talk about Obama being half white? Answer: Because there's no privilege in being white.</quote> People did mention it, negatively, to discredit him being fully black.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 01/10/18 2:47:56 PM #126:	darkphoenix181 posted... People did mention it, negatively, to discredit him being fully black. Who? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:893779854] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>People did mention it, negatively, to discredit him being fully black. </quote> Who?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 2:51:34 PM #127:	Antifar posted... darkphoenix181 posted... People did mention it, negatively, to discredit him being fully black. Who? ? During his presidency people would remind us that Obama was half-white for all sorts of arguments. Maybe to say he is not truly the first black president. Often to suggest he isn't the common black man and thus common black people shouldn't like him or something like this. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893780062] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>People did mention it, negatively, to discredit him being fully black. </quote> Who?</quote> ? During his presidency people would remind us that Obama was half-white for all sorts of arguments. Maybe to say he is not truly the first black president. Often to suggest he isn't the common black man and thus common black people shouldn't like him or something like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/10/18 2:54:19 PM #129:	AssultTank posted... I voted for Obama, I bought into the promise of change. Looking at my bank account though, I wish he had promised dollars. . Same voted for Obama both times. Besides believing in his bs he was running against 2 idiots --- Waaaah. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893780234] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote>I voted for Obama, I bought into the promise of change. Looking at my bank account though, I wish he had promised dollars. .</quote> Same voted for Obama both times. Besides believing in his bs he was running against 2 idiots</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 01/10/18 2:55:56 PM #130:	You need to be extremely confused to vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. I get going with the better candidate, but that is literally vaulting from one end of the political spectrum to the other. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:893780310] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote>You need to be extremely confused to vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. I get going with the better candidate, but that is literally vaulting from one end of the political spectrum to the other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--kresnik-- 01/10/18 2:56:23 PM #131:	AssultTank posted... I voted for Obama, I bought into the promise of change. Looking at my bank account though, I wish he had promised dollars. Seriously though, I thought Obama was the better candidate at the time. Looking back, he wasn't an awesome president, but he definitely wasn't the worst. The ACA was a mess that screwed middle class workers, but other than that I can't really point to anything bad he did legislatively. Honestly, the biggest problems with the ACA were the Employer Mandate and the fact that it was literally the dream plan the insurance companies had. It literally put insurance company profit ahead of public health. But honestly, I would vote for a Democrat again if I felt they were the better candidate, even if I disagree with them on a lot of issues. Just like I will vote for a Republican despite disagreeing with them on a lot of issues. I feel the same way about voting for obama, but if I makes you feel any better, Romney and McCain were just as bad. McCain was worse than obama, imo, and we simply weren't given good choices. --- President Trump 2020 <cite>--kresnik-- posted [p:893780337] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote>I voted for Obama, I bought into the promise of change. Looking at my bank account though, I wish he had promised dollars. Seriously though, I thought Obama was the better candidate at the time. Looking back, he wasn't an awesome president, but he definitely wasn't the worst. The ACA was a mess that screwed middle class workers, but other than that I can't really point to anything bad he did legislatively. Honestly, the biggest problems with the ACA were the Employer Mandate and the fact that it was literally the dream plan the insurance companies had. It literally put insurance company profit ahead of public health. But honestly, I would vote for a Democrat again if I felt they were the better candidate, even if I disagree with them on a lot of issues. Just like I will vote for a Republican despite disagreeing with them on a lot of issues.</quote> I feel the same way about voting for obama, but if I makes you feel any better, Romney and McCain were just as bad. McCain was worse than obama, imo, and we simply weren't given good choices.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/10/18 2:57:24 PM #132:	NadYobWoc posted... You need to be extremely confused to vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. I get going with the better candidate, but that is literally vaulting from one end of the political spectrum to the other. Not really by the time Obamas 2nd term was coming to an end i couldn't stand him. Clinton was just a dumber shadier version of Obama. I would have just about voted for anyone over her --- Waaaah. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893780396] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote>You need to be extremely confused to vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. I get going with the better candidate, but that is literally vaulting from one end of the political spectrum to the other.</quote> Not really by the time Obamas 2nd term was coming to an end i couldn't stand him. Clinton was just a dumber shadier version of Obama. I would have just about voted for anyone over her</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 01/10/18 3:00:23 PM #134:	NadYobWoc posted... You need to be extremely confused to vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. I get going with the better candidate, but that is literally vaulting from one end of the political spectrum to the other. I did the same thing. I like to vote for the better candidate...Maybe for some, issues like abortion/religion dictate them to always vote Republican, but that mindset is really stupid. People are gonna do stupid things, and unless Roe v Wade is over-turned, not much I can do to stop it. I was very much against Hillary from her illegal activities. I didn't believe it was right that she rigged the DNC, held confidential gov't emails on a private server, and screwed up the Benghazi incident and was walking around like she was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I admit I made my choice the moment I walked into the booth. Not to mention the fact that she offered no platform or ideas to the table. I knew voting third party was pointless...so.... --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:893780568] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote>You need to be extremely confused to vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. I get going with the better candidate, but that is literally vaulting from one end of the political spectrum to the other.</quote> I did the same thing. I like to vote for the better candidate...Maybe for some, issues like abortion/religion dictate them to always vote Republican, but that mindset is really stupid. People are gonna do stupid things, and unless Roe v Wade is over-turned, not much I can do to stop it. I was very much against Hillary from her illegal activities. I didn't believe it was right that she rigged the DNC, held confidential gov't emails on a private server, and screwed up the Benghazi incident and was walking around like she was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I admit I made my choice the moment I walked into the booth. Not to mention the fact that she offered no platform or ideas to the table. I knew voting third party was pointless...so....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 01/10/18 3:01:04 PM #135:	KingCrabCake posted... NadYobWoc posted... You need to be extremely confused to vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. I get going with the better candidate, but that is literally vaulting from one end of the political spectrum to the other. Not really by the time Obamas 2nd term was coming to an end i couldn't stand him. Clinton was just a dumber shadier version of Obama. I would have just about voted for anyone over her You sound very politically confused. Especially considering you were already old enough to vote in '08 --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:893780607] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote>You need to be extremely confused to vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. I get going with the better candidate, but that is literally vaulting from one end of the political spectrum to the other.</quote> Not really by the time Obamas 2nd term was coming to an end i couldn't stand him. Clinton was just a dumber shadier version of Obama. I would have just about voted for anyone over her</quote> You sound very politically confused. Especially considering you were already old enough to vote in '08</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 01/10/18 3:01:40 PM #136:	I guess I just had more realistic expectations for Obama's presidency than most people. Though I guess buying a politicians campaign promises does explain why so many people voted for Trump lmao. I knew with how obstructive and uncompromising Republicans are that Obama wouldn't be able to do much when the Democrats lost the majority. But he was by far the best president of my lifetime. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:893780647] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote>I guess I just had more realistic expectations for Obama's presidency than most people. Though I guess buying a politicians campaign promises does explain why so many people voted for Trump lmao. I knew with how obstructive and uncompromising Republicans are that Obama wouldn't be able to do much when the Democrats lost the majority. But he was by far the best president of my lifetime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 01/10/18 3:03:36 PM #137:	nicklebro posted... I guess I just had more realistic expectations for Obama's presidency than most people. Though I guess buying a politicians campaign promises does explain why so many people voted for Trump lmao. I knew with how obstructive and uncompromising Republicans are that Obama wouldn't be able to do much when the Democrats lost the majority. But he was by far the best president of my lifetime. That does explain a lot actually. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:893780764] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>I guess I just had more realistic expectations for Obama's presidency than most people. Though I guess buying a politicians campaign promises does explain why so many people voted for Trump lmao. I knew with how obstructive and uncompromising Republicans are that Obama wouldn't be able to do much when the Democrats lost the majority. But he was by far the best president of my lifetime.</quote> That does explain a lot actually.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 01/10/18 3:03:41 PM #138:	Obama's plan was very appealing to us who were against GWB's "war on terror" - he promised to back out responsibly and to start national healthcare. It was very progressive and a breath of fresh air. Ultimately, I think his second term was crap, and his idea didn't go too well, but it was a novel concept and idea. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:893780768] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote>Obama's plan was very appealing to us who were against GWB's "war on terror" - he promised to back out responsibly and to start national healthcare. It was very progressive and a breath of fresh air. Ultimately, I think his second term was crap, and his idea didn't go too well, but it was a novel concept and idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/10/18 3:04:58 PM #140:	NadYobWoc posted... KingCrabCake posted... NadYobWoc posted... You need to be extremely confused to vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. I get going with the better candidate, but that is literally vaulting from one end of the political spectrum to the other. Not really by the time Obamas 2nd term was coming to an end i couldn't stand him. Clinton was just a dumber shadier version of Obama. I would have just about voted for anyone over her You sound very politically confused. Especially considering you were already old enough to vote in '08 Nope. Its not that hard to understand why i didnt vote for Clinton. She was crooked af She was Obama (but worse) who i was growing tired of. It was a sure bet that i was voting for any Republican that Clinton was facing. I'm a moderate so theres also that --- Waaaah. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893780848] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote>You need to be extremely confused to vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. I get going with the better candidate, but that is literally vaulting from one end of the political spectrum to the other.</quote> Not really by the time Obamas 2nd term was coming to an end i couldn't stand him. Clinton was just a dumber shadier version of Obama. I would have just about voted for anyone over her</quote> You sound very politically confused. Especially considering you were already old enough to vote in '08</quote> Nope. Its not that hard to understand why i didnt vote for Clinton. She was crooked af She was Obama (but worse) who i was growing tired of. It was a sure bet that i was voting for any Republican that Clinton was facing. I'm a moderate so theres also that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 01/10/18 3:13:25 PM #145:	byron posted... @AssultTank posted... byron posted... Darkman124 posted... they don't want to go bankrupt when they have a major health issue So why do people support the ACA if they don't want to go bankrupt when they have a major health issue? o.O Because while it's not perfect there are out-of-pocket limits which is better than no limit. plus, the ACA saves many people from literally going bankrupt (as opposed to just becoming impoverished) due to medicaid expansion which has much stronger financial protections than private insurance --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:893781343] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>byron posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote><cite>byron posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>they don't want to go bankrupt when they have a major health issue</quote></quote> So why do people support the ACA if they don't want to go bankrupt when they have a major health issue? o.O</quote> Because while it's not perfect there are out-of-pocket limits which is better than no limit.</quote> plus, the ACA saves many people from literally going bankrupt (as opposed to just becoming impoverished) due to medicaid expansion which has much stronger financial protections than private insurance</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 01/10/18 3:14:18 PM #147:	AssultTank posted... Honestly though, to a low income family it doesn't matter much if the limit is $6800 or $30,000. Either way they are fucked. well, the cost-sharing protections go up to 250% of the FPL, which is something like ... 30k for an individual, maybe twice that for a family of four? --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:893781383] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly though, to a low income family it doesn't matter much if the limit is $6800 or $30,000. Either way they are fucked.</quote> well, the cost-sharing protections go up to 250% of the FPL, which is something like ... 30k for an individual, maybe twice that for a family of four?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 01/10/18 3:14:26 PM #148:	lol another right wing oddball mod getting owned. --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:893781392] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote>lol another right wing oddball mod getting owned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 01/10/18 3:14:55 PM #149:	also this topic title is really weird. like, are you suggesting republicans are white supremacists or something? --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:893781424] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote>also this topic title is really weird. like, are you suggesting republicans are white supremacists or something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 01/10/18 3:15:37 PM #150:	NinjaBreakfast posted... lol another right wing oddball mod getting owned. Eh, he isn't that bad. Just slightly uninformed. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:893781466] in Name a rea... [t:76186039]...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>lol another right wing oddball mod getting owned.</quote> Eh, he isn't that bad. Just slightly uninformed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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