Board 8 > Board 8's Other NFL Picks League 2017 - Wildcard Weekend

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Welcome to the playoffs!
1. See tiebreaker scenarios for tiebreakers.
2. If you have any questions, please ask. I'll be happy to clarify
3. All picks must be in before the start of the game.
4. PIcks should be sent to me via PM (unless I'm picking, in which case we'll both send to an alternate)

Spreadsheets:
Records:
goo.gl/rmdcb9

Week by Week:
goo.gl/MyDTQ1

Locks:
goo.gl/FLFQrk

Standings:
(1)WweJth 177-79 [330]
(2)Crescent-Moon 175-81 [400]
(3)davidponte 173-83 [270]
(4)foxhead84 172-84 [270]
(5)theawesomestevr 169-87 [320]
Consensus 168-88
(6)Camden 167-89 [400]
(7)Andel 166-90 [260]
(8)Buffy_Summers 166-90 [230]
(9)Stripperiffic 165-91 [190]
(10)Ashethan 163-93 [130]
(11)terpaholic 162-94 [350]
(12)Silvstedt 162-94 [210]*
(13)5tarscream 162-94 [210]
(14)BlueCrystalTear 161-95 [330]
(15)MitsuruKirijo 161-95 [180]
(16)cyan1001 160-96 [250]
(17)ProfessorLupin 158-98 [230]
(18)KCF0107 156-100 [260]
(19)crazyisgood 154-102 [260]
(20)Dancedreamer 153-103 [60]
(21)Runemistress 152-104 [150]
(22)Wicklebee 150-106 [240]

*Tiebreaker 22 off vs 628 off

Note: I did a retally of everyone's results. So some of your numbers may be off from last week's. If you feel I have made an error, please tell me, and I'll work to correct it.

Tiebreaker rules:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS654SUsTu0k_MEItWT5TNh53FhUUT9VOdYqd3QwqDjEdjfhi2YpdHXi_LuA7o2fvqVroFPSceaOPt3/pub

What you are picking:
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team (Ex: Jets +3.5)
4. How many points will be scored in the game
5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?

Quick explanation:

-If both users pick different teams, the one who picks the right team advances.
-If both users pick the same team and are right -- whoever LOCKED will advance. If both or neither locked, then the tiebreaker will be decided by points scored in the game
-If there's still a tie after total points scored, it'll be determined by how many passing yards are thrown
-If there's still a tie after that, the higher seed automatically advances

-If both users pick the same team, and are wrong -- whoever did NOT lock will advance. If both or neither locked, then the tiebreaker will be decided by whoever picked the lowest spread that still wins. (Ex: If the Jets lose by 3, and you pick Jets +3.5, and your opponent picks Jets +4.5 you advance. If you pick Jets +2.5 then your opponent advances)
-If the tie isn't broken after that, tiebreakers advance normally.

Schedule:

Kansas City Chiefs @ Tennessee Titans
5- theawesomestevr
vs
12- Silvstedt

Atlanta Falcons @ Los Angeles Rams
6-Camden
vs
11- terpaholic

Buffalo Bills @ Jacksonville Jaguars
7- andel
vs
10- Ashethan

Carolina Panthers @ New Orleans Saints
8- Buffy_Summers
vs
9- Stripperiffic

I also need a volunteer to take mine and Andel's picks.
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I will take your picks
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FML
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Clarification: How will the following week work? Will the 4 bye players get to choose the game they wish to have?

Appreciated, KCF

5tarscream posted...

FML

Your lock all got you into position. But you didn't submit a tiebreaker score. Always submit a tiebreaker score.
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WweJth posted...

Clarification: How will the following week work? Will the 4 bye players get to choose the game they wish to have?

Games are chosen based on advantage by record.

For example, this week:

Silvstedt vs theawesomestevr:
Chiefs/Titans: 4
Bills/Jaguars: -3
Rams/Falcons: 1
Saints/Panthers: -1

terpaholic vs Camden:
Chiefs/Titans: -1
Bills/Jaguars: -1
Rams/Falcons: 0
Saints/Panthers: -3

Me vs Andel:
Chiefs/Titans: 1
Bills/Jaguars: 1
Rams/Falcons: -3
Saints/Panthers: 1

Stripperiffic vs Buffy_Summers:
Chiefs/Titans: -1
Bills/Jaguars: -3
Rams/Falcons: 1
Saints/Panthers: 0

From there, the top seed gets advantage first. Meaning Silvstedt vs theawesomestevr gets Chiefs/Titans.

The only Bills/Jaguars advantage goes to Andel, so me and Andel get that one.

Terpaholic vs Camden only has neutral in Rams/Falcons so they get that one over Saints/Panthers, leaving Stripperiffic and Buffy_Summers with Saints/Panthers (which is also neutral)
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Ashethan posted...

What you are picking:
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?

Does the "and by how much" end up factoring into the picks? I didn't see it listed in the quick explanation for tiebreakers, but it is in the full rules, so I just wanted to check on that.

It's how I ended up winning it all last season. I believe that my opponent and I picked the same team in every game. Twice our picks won (Seahawks over Lions and Falcons over Packers), and the how much tiebreaker I believe was the deciding factor.
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theawesomestevr posted...

Does the "and by how much" end up factoring into the picks? I didn't see it listed in the quick explanation for tiebreakers, but it is in the full rules, so I just wanted to check on that.

Yes, it's fully explained in the official tiebreaker rules:

-Tiebreaker 1: By how much. Whoever is closer (over or under) advances. (EX: User A picks Jets by 3, User B picks Jets by 7. If Jets win by 4 or less, User A wins. If the Jets win by 6 or more, User B wins. If the Jets win by 5, then it moves to the next tiebreaker)

This tiebreaker supersedes a lock (because being able to pick the amount is a bigger deal than confidence)

I forgot to include it in the quick explanation. (was in a hurry to get the topic up before it got too late)
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FYI, my birthday is on Sunday. I should be able to post andel and Ashe's picks around kickoff though as my current plans only involve late afternoon and evening.
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Shouldn't it be Tennessee Titans @ Kansas City Chiefs?

Oh so I don't need to do anything here until next week.

my picks are in
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I sent my pick.

bump

andel posted...

my picks are in

Confirming this to be true
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My pick is in.
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Confirmed
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theawesomestevr
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
Kansas City Chiefs by 8 may change this in a sec.
2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
Yes
3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team (Ex: Jets +3.5)
Chiefs +4.5
4. How many points will be scored in the game
47 points
5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
484

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Silvstedt
What you are picking:
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
Chiefs by 4
2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
Yes
3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team (Ex: Jets +3.5)
Chiefs +4.5
4. How many points will be scored in the game
38
5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
521
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If the Chiefs win by 5 or less, Silvstedt advances
If the Chiefs win by 7 or more, theawesomestevr advances
If the Chiefs win by exactly 6, and the score is 42 points or less, Silvstedt advances
If the Chiefs win by exactly 6, and the score is 43 points or more, theawesomestevr advances

If the Titans win and the score is 42 points or less, Silvstedt advances
If the Titans win, and the score is 43 points or more, theawesomestevr advances
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I may have put too much confidence in the Chiefs given how bad their defense is , but still, go KC! Win by a lot please!

Also not sure where I came up with 47 points when the score I had in mind was 28-17. Whoops. >_>

theawesomestevr advances!
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By a point huh
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Whew, that was a close one. Good match-up/game/whateveritshouldbecalled, Silvstedt.

Camden
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
Rams by 8

2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
Of course

3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team (Ex: Jets +3.5)
Rams +3.5

4. How many points will be scored in the game
54 points

5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
515 yards

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terpaholic
1. Which team will win -- and by how much? Rams by 7
2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
Yes.
3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team.
Rams +4.5
4. How many points will be scored in the game?
49
5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
550.
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If the Rams win by 7 or fewer points, Camden advances
If the Rams win by 8 or more points, terpaholic advances

If the Falcons win by 3 or fewer points, Camden advances
If the Falcons win by 4 points, terpaholic advances
If the Falcons win by 5 or more points, and the total score is 51 or less, Camden advances
If the Falcons win by 5 or more points, and the total score is 52 or more, terpaholic advances
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Ashethan posted...

If the Falcons win by 5 or more points, and the total score is 51 or less, Camden advances
If the Falcons win by 5 or more points, and the total score is 52 or more, terpaholic advances

This should be the other way around, shouldn't it?

Yes, the Rams win section is also reversed.
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Yeah, sorry that's reversed.

Should be:

If the Rams win by 7 or fewer points terpaholic advances
If the Rams win by 8 or more points, Camden advances

If the Falcons win by 3 or fewer points, Camden advances
If the Falcons win by 4 points, terpaholic advances
If the Falcons win by 5 or more points, and the total score is 51 or less, terpaholic advances
If the Falcons win by 5 or more points, and the total score is 52 or more, Camden advances
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Looks like Falcons by three or less is my best bet at this point.
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terpaholic advances!
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Looks like nobody has predicted the correct team so far! Will the trend continue tomorrow?

Also Happy Birthday to KCF!
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Sent my pick last night

Bills at Jaguars

Ashe
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
Jaguars by 7

2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
No

3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team
Jaguars +4.5

4. How many points will be scored in the game
38

5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
451

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andel
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
Jags by 14

2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
Yes, LOCK the Jags

3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team
Jags +3

4. How many points will be scored in the game
34

5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
282
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-If the Jags win by 10 points or less, I advance
-If the Jags win by 11 points or more, andel advances
-If the Bills win by 2 or less, andel advances
-If the Bills win by 3 or more, I advance (3 or 4 points by first tiebreaker, 5 or more points by Lock)
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Ashethan posted...

-If the Jags win by 10 points or less, I advance
-If the Jags win by 11 points or more, andel advances
-If the Bills win by 2 or less, andel advances
-If the Bills win by 3 or more, I advance (3 or 4 points by first tiebreaker, 5 or more points by Lock)

wouldn't andel advance because he/she locked the pick?

No.

Scenario 3: Both users pick the wrong team:

-Tiebreaker 1: The spread. Whoever picks the lowest spread that STILL WINS, advances. Example: If User A picks Jets +3.5, and User B picks Jets +7.5; if the Jets lose by 3 or less, User A advances. If the Jets lose by 4, 5, 6, or 7 then User B advances. If the Jets lose by 8 or more, it moves on to the next tiebreaker.
--Tiebreaker 2: If one player locks their team, and the other does not, then the player who did NOT lock their team advances. If both or neither player locked, then it will move on to the next tiebreaker

A Lock breaks the point tiebreaker. In favor if it's the right team, and against if it's the wrong team (Much like in the regular season where you lose 10 points for a wrong lock)
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Ashethan posted...

No.

Scenario 3: Both users pick the wrong team:

-Tiebreaker 1: The spread. Whoever picks the lowest spread that STILL WINS, advances. Example: If User A picks Jets +3.5, and User B picks Jets +7.5; if the Jets lose by 3 or less, User A advances. If the Jets lose by 4, 5, 6, or 7 then User B advances. If the Jets lose by 8 or more, it moves on to the next tiebreaker.
--Tiebreaker 2: If one player locks their team, and the other does not, then the player who did NOT lock their team advances. If both or neither player locked, then it will move on to the next tiebreaker

A Lock breaks the point tiebreaker. In favor if it's the right team, and against if it's the wrong team (Much like in the regular season where you lose 10 points for a wrong lock)

I'm confused, what does this mean then?

Ashethan posted...

Quick explanation:

-If both users pick different teams, the one who picks the right team advances.
-If both users pick the same team and are right -- whoever LOCKED will advance. If both or neither locked, then the tiebreaker will be decided by points scored in the game.

-If both users pick the same team, and are wrong -- whoever did NOT lock will advance. If both or neither locked, then the tiebreaker will be decided by whoever picked the lowest spread that still wins.

This says the lock comes before the spread.
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Based on how the rule structure is laid out the scenario should be:

If the Jags win, andel advances on a correct LOCK.
If the Bills win, Ashe advances on andel incorrectly LOCKING a game.

I would think a lock would precede all else
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Ashethan posted...

theawesomestevr posted...
Does the "and by how much" end up factoring into the picks? I didn't see it listed in the quick explanation for tiebreakers, but it is in the full rules, so I just wanted to check on that.

Yes, it's fully explained in the official tiebreaker rules:

-Tiebreaker 1: By how much. Whoever is closer (over or under) advances. (EX: User A picks Jets by 3, User B picks Jets by 7. If Jets win by 4 or less, User A wins. If the Jets win by 6 or more, User B wins. If the Jets win by 5, then it moves to the next tiebreaker)

This tiebreaker supersedes a lock (because being able to pick the amount is a bigger deal than confidence)

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I mean if people think I should send Andel on based on the quick explanation, I'm more than happy to oblige. But for future reference (for this season at least--rules can be under consideration for next season) points are above locks.
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I assumed the Jags went down to 10-/11+, but the way the rules are written I think andel was out no matter what if the Bills actually won.
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Personally, because the quick explanation on both incorrect states:

"-If both users pick the same team, and are wrong -- whoever did NOT lock will advance."

without using the other steps that follow, I think the same logic has to apply for correct locks especially when the point margin is not stated in the explanation to trump locks. (You can just list it in the weeks to follow) Sorry Ashe, but I would say andel advances since point margin is not listed as being > than Locks.

Like I said, I'm more than happy to send Andel on if people think that's what i should do. But only because I'm involved in the pick, and I run the league -- if this were any other game (should it happen in the next game, haven't looked at the picks yet) then I'd advance them by the rules listed in the official tiebreaker rules.
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Buffy_Summers
1. New Orleans by 10
2. No
3. New Orleans +7.5
4. 44
5. 520

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Stripperiffic
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
New Orleans Saints by 13
2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
No
3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team (Ex: Jets +3.5)
Saints +6.5
4. How many points will be scored in the game
55
5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
601
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If the Saints win by 11 or less, Buffy_Summers advances
If the Saints win by 12 or more, Stripperiffic advances

If the Panthers win by 6 or fewer points, Stripperiffic advances
If the Panthers win by 7 points, Buffy_Summers advances
If the Panthers win by 8 or more points, and the score is 49 or less, Buffy _Summers advances
If the Panthers win by 8 or more points, and the score is 50 or more, Stripperiffic advances
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Just have a TRIPLE THREAT match next round
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This is a rare case where the National Championship game is tomorrow, if you wanted to play the format for that game, that could work.